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Fallout Shelter Shows Us Exactly How Stupid The Mobile Gaming Industry Is [eGamer]

Quote: "During the Bethesda conference where they made me fangirl out of my chair because of Fallout 4, they interrupted their presentation to show us a new mobile game they developed. When I first heard the words “mobile game” I sighed and wanted to leave the stream until they started showing Fallout 4 again. But then they announced Fallout Shelter and Todd Howard said that you can play it offline, there’s no paywalls for building stuff and the only form of microtransaction is extra lunchboxes filled with extra loot…"

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KwietStorm_BLM3226d ago

I kinda felt the same way when he mentioned mobile, but I thought to myself, well this has to be good to interrupt Fallout 4. But I won't be able to see how good it is til it's on Android anyway.

IamTylerDurden13226d ago

I kinda felt the same way except i said "ru effing kidding? Pitching a mobile game in the middle of Fallout" and then i thought "when the fu** is the ios garbage going to be done bc i could care less, take us back to Fallout 4".

I do not own an ios device and i absolutely do not play mobile games, i play my Vita on the go. Fallout Shelter looks cute but i could fu**ing care less. That was kinda bs on Todd's part, he's supposed to be a no bs guy, save that crap as a snippet at the end and promote it on the website. To me it was a turn off.

joeorc3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

First before I go on about mobile games, the fact that you went out of your way of all insulting the entire mobile games market and calling it "piss"/and pointing out fallout shelter as a bright light among mobile games, is being pretty freaking unfair to many other games that are on there in the.mobile market if you even freaking bothered to look for them.

Example: Anti squad tactics can be completely played off line has crates that give you freebies, and just like fallout shelter you can win them without buying.

But yeah its all Piss alright/s

And the game plays very well.

There is.plenty of games on the mobile market that are like that, but calling the entire mobile market as piss is just seems pretty salty about the support The Mobile.market is getting.

1nsomniac3226d ago

The mobile gaming sector is the cancer of the gaming industry. Not only is it an embarrassment to the industry but it is also ruining it from the inside-out.

ginsunuva3225d ago

As opposed to the AAA industry whose budgets and risk are growing so high that devs have shut down left and right, and publishers are infecting everything with unfinished releases, preorder DLC, timed exclusivity, and other BS.

Mobile isn't killing thr gaming industry. The gaming industry is committing suicide.

diesoft3226d ago

There are always exceptions but you have to be kidding defending the mobile market like it's all fine. The normal free-to-play game is about waiting not playing. I spend way more time waiting to do more actions than I do actually DOING the actions...unless I pay for it (which I won't do).

Not only is the practice itself gross but the THEMES repeat themselves too often. Since touch gaming lends itself to less action-oriented games and more strategy-oriented gaming then we've seen the build-this-for-awhile and wait-to-make-more-of-that-for- awhile mechanic repeat itself so f***ing often that I honestly can't take another one. Sword King Clash of Sorcery Park with Clans. Just take two of those words and make the some boring game and you've got another free-to-play winner.

It's piss alright. It will last longer because of fans who defend the same practice that's hurting mobile gaming. The same fans who pay developers money for gems so they can do "action x" a little sooner, ultimately validating the whole practice. It's more than okay to say the industry is garbage even with a few stand-outs in the crowd.

joeorc3226d ago

@1nsomniac

How so is it ruining the game market from the inside out? For instance Rockstar games released GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas and now more people than ever can play those games. Again how is that embarrassment or is a cancer to the game industry?

If any thing its growing the game industry.

And more mobile device games are being supported with native game pad support, so again making gaming cheaper vector point for quality games like GTA for instance is some how a cancer to gaming?

Gamers to day have a weird way of looking at growth of our hobby.

diesoft3226d ago

Nobody's talking about GTA games being a cancer. Those are full release games (btw, PORTS of existing games). The excessive use of free-to-play is the cancer! The MAJORITY of mobile gaming tends to bend towards free-to-play mechanics and it's just tiresome. Do action X, wait 13 hours unless you spend real money. Gets boring and grates on nerves QUICK. You know, the direct opposite of what fun games should be.

IamTylerDurden13226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

Stop. Just stop it. Omfg. This is a GAMING site dedicated to gaming, the vast majority are not casuals who love mobile gaming, mobile gaming is terrible as a whole. The percentage of good legit games to exploitation garbage is probably 10 to 1. Major devs have taken resources that typically would've gone to real console and pc game production and thrown it into the greed stricken land of fuddy-duddy mobile gaming. It's killing Japans console market and u defend this trash. Go elsewhere homie.

There are some good mobile games i'm told but as a whole the industry is a cesspool. So what gta 3 is on mobile, i can play gta on Vita or on PS4 ect. Mobile gaming is good for casuals, kids, and greedy devs mostly, yes it gives the occasional small creative ppl an outlet to make games they normally might not have, but that's hardly enough to justify the entire industry.

Forgotten Memories will be so much better on Vita with sticks, Bioshock sucked on ios, ppl get to play these garbage watered-down versions of awesome games, wth good is that?

Ramser123226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

I played the game for 1 hour then I got bored. Haven't touched it since

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Bethesda reminds you how much you want The Elder Scrolls 6 by teasing early builds

Bethesda will do as Bethesda does, tormenting us with talk of a playable build of TES 6 on the 30-year anniversary of The Elder Scrolls series.

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Lightning7729d ago

Playable builds is always good to know sounds like they've started full production. Still BR awhile but good to know development is goin smooth.

VenomUK28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Whilst Elder Scrolls VI might be good, I speak on behalf of the ENTIRE N4G community when I say we'd much prefer Starfield 2 first.

RaidenBlack28d ago

eh, I want Fallout 5 before that.
(before ES6, even ... if it was possible 😈)

MrNinosan28d ago

I won't want a Starfield 2 at all.
Give me ESVI and Fallout 5... on Playstation ofc

Palitera28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

ES6 at 30 fps? Not really, thanks. Good thing the industry has evolved since Bethesda was great.

Obscure_Observer28d ago

"Playable builds is always good to know sounds like they've started full production. Still BR awhile but good to know development is goin smooth."

It will probably be a launch game for the next gen Xbox.

Fingers crossed

XiNatsuDragnel29d ago

Playable builds would be great to get those myself.

isarai28d ago

They better not mess this up i swear

Ninver28d ago

They'll find a way. If it's not $10 horse armor dlc it'll be old engine with bugs

phoenixwing28d ago

Would be nice if everything wasn't a million loading screens when it releases

QuestionMark28d ago

I lost a lot of enthusiasm for Elder Scrolls VI after playing Starfield. It was interesting, but it was still a massive disappointment for me. Elder Scrolls is different from Starfield in many ways, but I can’t bring myself to trust Bethesda with anything anymore.

phoenixwing28d ago

yeah i'm definitely going to wait a month after reviews and see what people really think of the game instead of it being day 1.

RpgSama28d ago

That one-two combo of Fallout 76 AND Starfield does not give me a lot of hope for the future.

raWfodog28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I think it’s because some were hyping Starfield to be this ‘generational’ masterpiece when it just turned out to be an okay/good game.

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Fallout New Vegas dev pitched Bethesda a number of Elder Scrolls games

Chris Avellone expands on his earlier claims that Fallout New Vegas dev Obsidian pitched Bethesda ideas for Elder Scrolls spinoffs.

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-Foxtrot127d ago

Really Bethesda? Come on

We could have gotten to explore more of the regions or revisit old ones with another developer making them. Would have shortened the time between releases of the main games.

shinoff2183127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

Just thinking about what could've been. Maybe they didn't wanna be showed up on their flagship title Ala new vegas compared to fallout 3 and 4

phoenixwing126d ago

it's not that hard to show them up when they're like 20 years behind in terms of engine and development skills. If they had gotten the go ahead i guarantee it would have been better than anything they'd made recently.

anast126d ago

Bethesda didn't and still doesn't do above the bare minimum.

cammers1995126d ago

The issue here was Bethesda was butthurt that obsidian managed to develop a better fallout game at the time (new vegas) than theirs (fo3) so they didn't allow it.

OneLove125d ago (Edited 125d ago )

It's funny how they're both owned by Microsoft now. They should be able to work together now.

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Can We Still Consider Bethesda A Top-Tier Developer?

Bethesda has been one of the gaming giants present in the gaming industry for the past 30 years. It used to really mean something when a Bethesda title was going to launch. But the question is, is this a deserved reaction anymore?

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Jin_Sakai130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

If you’re having to ask yourself this question then you already know the answer.

-Foxtrot130d ago

I think the final verdict is waiting for Elder Scrolls VI

Skyrim was fantastic but I think that's where people started to catch on with the bugs and the like

Fallout 4 was a bit of a let down but maybe they'll will learn their mistakes and get a new engine, possibly stop streamlining the RPG elements to make it even more accessible.

Fallout 76 was grim, where you knew something was up and they weren't the same as before. Todd lying on stage like that, I will never not hear Little Lies by Fleetwood Mac and not think of that moment at E3.

Starfield just didn't deliver

So it's down to Elder Scrolls VI whether it's the final nail or not

I just find it funny with the way they are going, there's still people out there who scream for co-op in the mainline Elder Scrolls / Fallout games. Like they can't seem to even do a single player game, why do people still want them to take on more than they can chew. It's insane thinking.

isarai130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

Same, like as of now they definitely aren't, but I feel everyone is looking at ES6 as their opportunity to catch themselves before completely falling from grace. If ES6 doesn't deliver, I don't see them getting the same level of attention anymore, and people will start to look elsewhere for a similar RPG experience to what they used to deliver.

outsider1624128d ago

If they're still using their old ass engine then no way. If they change it then maybe they have a chance.

shinoff2183129d ago

Skyrim was loved by people. I can't play it it long playthroughs but I like it in doses. Fallout 4 was dope but man it was dumbed down, heavily. Fallout 76 was atrocious, although I've read it was better I'm still not attracted to online so I can't really rate the game. I ain't gonna lie I did play it for probably 20 hours total then I started realizing I had to pay for storage. Yea man fk that. I just wish atleast with Fallout they could've built on what obsidian was doing with new vegas. I don't really care about the engine stuff. Just make a less dumbed down game. No lie I never realized the ladders were not usable in their games though. I find that hilarious. Such a weird thing.

recoctimocassirnff128d ago

"then I started realizing I had to pay for storage. Yea man fk that."

As soon as I realised that, I sat the controller down and stared into space, trying to comprehend the greediness and stupidity of that design choice. My entire playstyle revolves around exploring and hoarding as much equipment and ammo as I can.

Once I snapped back to reality I immediately uninstalled the game.

thorstein129d ago

I agree with everything you said except Fallout 4. That's one of my favorite Fallouts.

anast129d ago

If they mess up ES6, which I will be able to play because the SX will be at a discount as I predicted, Bethesda is done.

ChasterMies129d ago

“I think the final verdict is waiting for Elder Scrolls VI”

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 3 times and I will withhold judgment until the final verdict.

isarai129d ago

You weren't fooled if you seen it coming and never bought it.

Sonic1881129d ago (Edited 129d ago )

"So it's down to Elder Scrolls VI whether it's the final nail or not"

The only issue I have with that is that we're going to have to wait another 5-6 years before we play ES6. It won't be coming out this generation for sure

recoctimocassirnff128d ago

According to wikipedia, (which is not a reliable source in the least) ES6 will be using the creation engine 2. If that is true, the game is going to be terribly and BGS is dead to me.

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anast129d ago

No, they are deving less quality than the reputable indie companies out there.

dmonee129d ago

Starfield left such a bad taste in my mouth im going to say “No!” to this headline. If Starfield was an xbox X launch title I would still be disappointed. Perhaps I set my expectations too high and it is what it is. Elder Scrolls 6, Fallout 5 or maybe even a new IP from them, could give them an opportunity to redeem themselves

Crows90129d ago

A huge disappointment. and then us real Bethesda fans have to try to get through the fanboy noise so Bethesda can get the message. Being an exclusive has hurt Bethesda badly.....they don't get the proper feedback

CrimsonWing69129d ago

Lately they haven’t been, so… if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck 🤷‍♂️

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