Nintendo's vice president of sales and marketing discusses his company's next console, NX, and also explains why he thinks you should still buy a Wii U
I think he's pretty much right about the Wii U. Even now I'd argue it has the best video game library of all the current-gen consoles.
I agree. People think im a fanboy for saying so, but the reality to me is that it is a sad day when a console like this has the most worthwhile games to someone with as diverse tastes in games as me. All 3 companies have disappointed me thus far this gen. And i know it had a solid year head start, but even comparing Wii u's first two years to the other consoles is surprising. Bloodborne was the first game i really dug on PS4, everything else was either something i played the year before on ps3 or a little too fleeting.
WiiU is graded at a lower standard. And I will say it for the 5th time here. Dragon Age scored lower in metacritic than many Nintendo WiiU games but somehow it won game of the year for 2014. That proves meta is handicapped for the WiiU. It's easier to score a 90 and over for the WiiU than PS4 and X1. The standards are higher for PS4 and X1. Therefore just because you say the WiiU has the better average meta, it doesn't mean that the library is better. If you want to use a flawed metric like that, then the IOS and Android probably have more 90+ games.
The standards are higher? No. If anything, the standards are more forgiving on everything but Wii U. Watch Dogs still sold like gangbusters despite its issues to pretty much everything except the Wii U. And games with even worse issues than those in WD gain considerable sales despite aggregate scores falling lower than a lot of the Wii U's titles. If the standards were really as tough as you're saying they are on other systems, then stuff like CoD wouldn't continue getting high sales despite their issues. Dragon Quest winning a GOTY award is also a horrible example, because GOTY awards are normally opinions based around polls, which are driven by fans and popularity, not around metacritic scores. Games like Bayonetta 2, Splatoon, Hyrule Warriors and many others deserve their high scores. They earned them, and it's a crying shame that brand popularity and these stupid console wars are holding people back from giving the console and its games the sales they deserve.
You realize how silly this sounds right. You are implying a game should be judged without considering its system's capabilities. I guess every 3DS game should be in the 40's then. Also that was a vote-based award, not a metacritic based one. Its pretty expected for a game on 4 platforms to beat an exclusive, thats been a complaint with the VGA's for years now.
QFT, ask yourself how Mario or Splatoon would fair on other platforms. The community is so starved for content they've substituted amiibo's for software and view the scraps NoA does throw to them with utmost reverence. This is coming from a huge Nintendo fan who slept outside of a bestbuy on a windy winter night to get his Wii.
Does it hurt? Being so dumb and trying to have any coherent thought must be painful for an Acorn sized brain. Mike,never change.
Honestly it depends how old you are to say that it has the best video game library of current gen. You have a bunch of old third party titles, and honestly I was a nintendo fan years ago but it seems like they've quit focusing on games for their older audience and focusing now on toys and games for a 8-16 year old audience. The only exclusives I could think of to justify a Wii U purchase are Bayonetta 2, and Mario Kart 8 and Smash. They have a remaster or two on their system before anyone says they don't, and besides those three games, there is still no new metroid game which would have been the game to get the Wii U for. There is too many kiddie games, and gimmicky contollers and tech, and not enough options to persuade me to get it now, especially considering they've already declared the console a failure, and are pretty much grasping at straws at this point to get you to support their life-support console, when the next one is around the corner. It's no different than Sony telling you to buy a PS3 or MS telling you to buy a 360 when there are only 6 good games left to come out for it before it's completely irrelevant. I'm sure I will get disagrees, but the last good Nintendo console was the Gamecube. They had a library for many, had a lot of different controllers that were about fully supported on every game, had great exclusives, and catered to kids, teenagers, and mature audiences. They didn't just focus on kiddie games like Splatoon, Wonderful 101, and games like that, but they had Resident Evil, Paper Mario, Timesplitters 2, F-Zero GX, Goldeneye, Everything Or Nothing, Killer 7, Viewtiful Joe, Metroid Prime series, Mortal Kombat 3D Fighters, Phantasy Star Online, Tales of, and Smash Melee, Capcom vs SNK 2 EO and many more. Plus the Gamecube was the second strongest console that generation, and had great support. The only thing that was holding that console back was them opting for mini dvd-r instead of DVD-R which was 1.7gb vs 4.7gb disc, and not a lot of online support. Essentially it was safe to call the Gamecube a successor to Dreamcast. Which I still hold to this day as one of the most fun console experiences. If they could make the NX anything like the Gamecube, it will be quite the console.
Wonderful 101 is no more "kiddie" than Viewtiful Joe. In fact it's a lot more hardcore, having a much steeper learning curve. But i do agree the GC was a great console. Its a shame people didnt buy it, if they did we might not have gotten the Wii or Wii U.
W101 kiddie wow im 42 years old and love de game and i assure you a kiddie will have a very hard time trying to finnish that game if it can get to the end.W101 has more indeep gameplay than what meets the eye at the first look! And frankly not even Mario 3D World or New Super Mario Bros is a kiddie game ,same to DK tropical freeze...very mature games with excelente art style and gameplay .
Devils Third,Bayonetta 2,Ninja Gaiden Razors Edge and SMTXFE have M or Cero D ratings. Also at 32 years old W101 is amazing.
I had no reason to buy it before, but now when they start dropping support, I care even less
Oh really pat11, an what games are those
completely agree, and i dont even own a wii u. hands down the best library there is on current gen systems available. As great as the ps4 and xbox one have done in recent months, there was a long time in which they barely had any worthwhile games. meanwhile the wii u has had a very strong library from the beginning. It continually delivers solid content, familiar or not. people on this site only discredit its relevance because it doesnt satisfy either side of the fanboy war a lot of (not all) n4g members are about. Yes, nintendos made bad decisions with the wii u, but in spite of that it is still a great piece of hardware with some of the best sofrware weve seen this gen.
The Wii U is still an excellent console even though it's on its last legs. Bayonetta 2, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Captain Toad, Super Smash, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Wind Waker HD, Super Mario 3D World, and a plethora of indies and virtual console games make the Wii U such a fun machine. It also has a good handful of games coming in the near future like Devil's Third, Namco Bandai's Project Treasure, Fatal Frame, Xenoblade Chronicles X, FAST Racing Neo, and more.
Just talking games, you have a decent argument ahead. Narrowing that down to exclusives? You'd be able to convince most people. Include backwards-compatibility? No argument necessary.
the wiiu is only a worthwhile purchase if you are a die hard nintendo fan. why would an average consumer buy a wiiu when the only games worth playing on it (AAA) are pikmin 3 mario 3d world wind waker hd mario kart 8 smash bros Yoshis wooly world beyonetta xenoblade ... ultimately, only the last two have universal appeal. the rest are games geared towards family/children/nintendo fans. of course, if you are a nintendo fan the wiiu is 'okay,' but most gamers want variety. i am a nintendo fan, but still, i wouldnt spend 100s of pounds just to play nothing but nintendo games. as a result, i will only purchase a wiiu when it is HEAVILY discounted.
HA. yet another exec in denial. the wii u is dead. only nintenders car about it.
What other message do you exspect from the VP of sales? "WiiU will be replaced soon, buy one used, if you want to play our game ... or just wait?" Of course he tries to keep the sales up - at least at the level they are now. PR talk? ... of course. It's his job.
If it's dead then why is Nintendo still supporting it with great games? When was the last time sony made a game for the Vita?
They said the same thing in the SNES days when people were waiting for the N64
But the SNES is far more successful than the Wii U...
Nintendo should market the hell out of the Wii U for Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympics.
As much as I like Nintendo, I won't buy a console for a few games; especially considering that the NX will most likely be backward compatible.
Yeah, itll most likely be BC, and hopefully region-free. So why buying a WiiU now?
I wouldn't bet on bc ...
I wouldn't hold my breath on Nintendo ever making a region free console either...
Hopefully not as that would imply dev-unfriendly architecture and a reprise of this gen.
I really wanted to buy a WiiU for Xenoblade but if the NX is backwards compatible....
The Wii U is definitely the place to play for gamers who love the Nintendo brand. Can't argue with that.
Gamecube would like a chat with you.
Dude, the Gamecube is years old. People who love the Nintendo brand aren't just going to keep playing Super Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime all the way into the 8th gen.
How much of this could have avoided had they just shown some progress on Zelda WiiU at E3? Just a snippet of gameplay? I think it would have calmed a lot of peoples fears.
I have been saying that constantly man. And if Zelda never go delayed, the total OPPOSITE would be being said about Wii U.
Exactly, idk why they wouldn't even just show the open world in a quick pass. And say something like, The next great Zelda game is just on the Horizon.....something!
Unfortunately Nintendo designed the Wii U without real concept of how the gamepad would make it unique, and without the necessary specs and features to allow it to compete, this generation. The gamepad is such an expensive part of the whole package, that they clearly had to scale the base console specs way back in order to accommodate its cost. That left the console itself way too underpowered to handle current generation games. At this point the Wii U is really only for diehard Nintendo fans; for the bulk of the gaming community, it simply doesn't offer enough to be worth it. And knowing Nintendo's history, I doubt that the NX will deviate from the pattern that the company has established. That pattern is, to keep the hardware as cheap as possible, with barebones specs, and throw in a gimmick to try to ignite sales. This keeps Nintendo's profit margins high and their manufacturing costs low, which in the end is not good for the consumer. I'd love to be wrong, and hope that the NX really does offer a solid gaming platform WITHOUT silly gimmicks forced on its customers, but at this late stage it is doubtful that this will happen.
Looking at upcoming games or ones released in 2015: If I didn't have a Wii U, I would buy one for Mario Maker (epic!!), Xenoblade X, Splatoon and Zelda. I bought it when Mario Kart 8 (I highly recommend it with both DLC packs) released and happy I did. No problems what-so-ever with the system and I use it daily. I think a price of $199 to $249 would be ideal given the NX might release holiday 2017.
I'd rather buy a console with a long-term investment
How do you know that Sony and MS won't release new consoles in 2018? It would be 5 years for both...
True. I actually exspect a short console cycle with VR and AR coming up ... More power will be needed soon.
Earth to moonman... are you low on oxygen again?
Because game development costs are as high as they've ever been. Even critically acclaimed games like Bioshock Infinite that sold 5+ million isn't enough to keep certain big developers afloat. Quickly jumping to the next generation will upset publishers as a whole. Sony and Microsoft will try their best to keep this gen alive as long as possible to maximize profit.
I'm sorry, but nintendo needs to bring in some interesting new IPs like Horizon, Quantum Break, etc, to get more people interested. Recycling the same games over and over again with a fresh coat of paint won't do it any more. People complain about there being CoD games being the same, but most Nintendo games have been the same for almost a decade, give or take a few new features. The Wii had it's draw with the motion controls, but the WiiU doesn't bring anything exciting to the table, hence the poor sales. But if you HAVE to make the same games, make a fully 3D open world Pokémon RPG for it; THAT will bring up the sales.
Over 80 new IPs since 2001. Troll harder.
What are they? I want to get the wiiu but the price needs to hit 200 for me. I want bayonetta 2 and devils third. After that maybe w101, zelda, and smash but thats about all
Over 80 new IPs? Really? Then why are the top rated games always Mario or Zelda or Pokemon or Super Smash Bros? Maybe they need to increase the quality of the new IPs and establish new franchises.
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