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Is Playstation Now A Suitable Contender To Xbox One's Backwards Compatibility?

Is Sony's Playstation Now a suitable contender to Microsoft Xbox One's Backwards Compatibility bandwagon in the aftermath of E3 2015?

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TheGreatGamer821d ago

They serve different purposes but I think any gamer would admit that the one not charging you for games you already own is the one doing it better

Brotard821d ago

yeah but i think with the right subscription price model, psnow is very competitive. I personally think PsNow is more than just about backwards compatibility. I think it might be a possible future platform for releasing first party games. thats much down the road though as average internet speeds and the tech behind it isn't quite ready for it yet.

kmeck518821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

There really isn't any price model that could get me to use the service. If I'm going to play my PS3 games, i'm going to hook my PS3 back up to my TV to play them before i pay again to play games i already own. The way Microsoft did it is what I and (i would imagine) pretty much everyone else would call backwards compatibility.

Cupid_Viper_3821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

I truly believe that this is a matter of false equivalency. PSnow is such a different thing than BC, and Sony have know since 2008 that they weren't going to make BC a high priority with the PS4. 2008 or around that time is when Sony dropped BC for the PS3 which help reduced the price and BC was pretty much history from then on.

Microsoft is offering BC primarily because they're finding very difficult to keep Xbox 360 gamers from going to PS4. They had the same problem last gen, which is why $500,000,000.00 was poured into kinect. They simply needed a way to keep the sales from slowing down and keep bringing people in. Now BC is hopefully the answer they are looking for because $150 price cut, 2 Forza games, one Halo Collection, etc is only bringing in about a quarter of what PlayStation is bringing on a monthly bases. 1 million gamers a month chooses PS4 while about 250,000-300,000 makes the choice to go with XBox One.

Don't get me wrong, I don't use and don't plan on using PSnow, it's not for me and I think Sony knows and understand that. When I feel nostalgic, I put my TV on input 3 and fire up my PS3 and play PS3 games because I'm still getting free games for my PS plus subscription.

That being said, PSnow is Sony looking to penetrate and get to people who never owned a PS3 and/or don't plan on buying a PS4. Where BC on XBox One is mostly aiming at keeping an Xbox 360 player from going over to the competition, which in my opinion is putting just putting band-aid on a gunshot wound.

They serve different purposes. I'll answer the question in the title though. No, PSnow is not a contender for BC on the Xbox One, even if it becomes free. On that same token, Shareplay > BC any day of the week for me. Shareplay becomes much more important to a gamer as the library of games grow overtime. Where BC becomes less and less important as time goes on.

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DawginTow1821d ago

Agreed. BC on psnow was like a way to kick things off, just 1 facet; the endgame would b, like u said, 1st party on release, & even 3rd party when they can work it out. That way it can b like gamefly or sumthin: it's rental/preview b4 purchase, but w/out needing to wait for the disc in the mail (unless ur on subscription).

As BC tho, psnow is a poor (& not to mention Paid) alternative to x1's BC. I only have a ps4 now, but if news ever came out that x1 would have 360 AND og xbox BC (which another article here on n4g mentioned was eminently doable), I'd feel I have no choice but to get an x1 as well. I still play Burnout 3, JSRF, PGR 1/2 etc. on my 360 on occasion

kneon821d ago

@kmeck518

PsNow isn't really aimed at you, it has a different target market. PsNow is more for the casual gamer that doesn't have a console, or perhaps someone new to Playstation that just wants to play a few of the big titles from last gen.

I expect most people that still have games from last gen probably still have the console to go with it so why use PsNow?

LamerTamer821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

Except PS now is always online, has downgraded visuals due to bandwidth, has input lag and is only a rental. Contrast that to a system native game that you own. Big difference.

People seem to make the mistake of thinking that streaming equals native gaming, it is far from it.

Dewitt821d ago

@Viper

MS figured out a way to make BC work because it was the number ONE requested feature by all users, not to compete with PSNow. They have been consistently adding ideas from the top of the user voice list and this was a huge one for their fans.

AngelicIceDiamond821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

@Cupid "They had the same problem last gen, which is why $500,000,000.00 was poured into kinect. They simply needed a way to keep the sales from slowing down and keep bringing people in."

Its no secret MS themselves said that Kinect was a way to expand the life of the 360. Though I disagreed with that but thats a different topic.

"PSnow is Sony looking to penetrate and get to people who never owned a PS3 and/or don't plan on buying a PS4."

"Where BC on XBox One is mostly aiming at keeping an Xbox 360 player from going over to the competition, which in my opinion is putting just putting band-aid on a gunshot wound."

"Shareplay > BC any day of the week for me. Shareplay becomes much more important to a gamer as the library of games grow overtime. Where BC becomes less and less important as time goes on."

Just a bunch of wishful thinking. Exaggerated downplay spin about BC ( which is incredible...) and then you run to shareplay which you go offtopic and grasping at anything at that point. Sounds like your making excuses and panicking for whatever reason. You can't give credit where credit is due I expect as much not many people have that ability so, its hard for most ppl.

SuperLupe821d ago

Cupid Viper has just posted one of the most desperate and delusional comments I have seen on N4G in a long long time.

Cupid_Viper_3821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

@ Dewitt

You're absolutely right, though what you're saying is not exactly contradicting the point I made. Had the Xbox One been in PS4's position, there's a lot of changes we're seeing now that simply wouldn't have happened. And yes, giving your fans what they ask for IS part of keeping them from going over to the competition. And nothing is more important for Microsoft right then "giving in" to their fans' demands if they hope to actually close gap between themselves and the PS4 sales wise.

@AngelicDiamond
"Sounds like your making excuses and panicking for whatever reason. You can't give credit where credit is due I expect as much not many people have that ability so, its hard for most ppl"

And then this is a line from what I wrote above:
"I'll answer the question in the title though. No, PSnow is not a contender for BC on the Xbox One, even if it becomes free." I'm not sure what more credit I'd need to give BC here. I just admitted that even if PSnow became free, it would be inferior to BC on Xbox one because of the streaming nature of PSnow.

But I get your point though, I'm not praising it to be a megaton, and pointing out that there are more important features out there than it, so obviously I'm panicking... Smh

Dude you need to take a chill pill, I'm well aware of what BC is, I've had it for 2 whole generation of gaming (PS2 and PS3). So I'm expressing my views and opinion on the matter based on first hand experience with the feature. Or as you put it, I'm "panicking"

donthate821d ago

PS Now is a flawed business model that offer neither the casual gamer the experience they want, nor do the core gamer.

So who are Sony selling to with their overpriced model?

4Sh0w821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

@TheGreatGamer

I don't think they serve different purposes though...psnow may have a different method of delivery and allow access through other devices without a ps4 but the main purpose of both is to allow gamers play old games.

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Thunder_G0d_Bane821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

I tried the ps now beta UK here although the service works it didn't lag for me but you do notice the downgrade in the visual dept. I was playing infamous 2 and it did start to bother me that the image wasn't sharp.

And yet the service isn't free and I think at its current cost it's far too much. So no it's no match for the x1 backward compatibility.

Davi123821d ago

Why are you comparing PS Now with the BC of XBone? If PS Now are BC in PS4 so what is on PS3? And when PS Now start to receive PS4 games, in PS3, PS Now will be frontwards?!? PS Now is a rental service!!!

vongruetz821d ago

But it's totally different. I was a PS3 owner last gen, and so to play any of the backward compatible games, I'd have to buy them all first. For 360 owners who bought a PS4, they can instantly have access to 100+ games for $15-20. Whether it's a good value all depends on your situation.

I think the sad truth of it is that by the time the backward compatibility has a decent list of games it can play, nobody is going to really care anymore. BC is something that is nice when the console first launches, but when you're 3 years in, it doesn't have as much importance.

Ron_Danger821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

If you didn't own a 360 (or did but sold your games for credit towards next gen) then you still need to pay for XB1 BC, either by paying for gamefly or paying for preowned.

With PSNow, although you are paying to play, you can play those games without needing a PS4 by streaming through certain TVs or anywhere you get wifi through the Vita or any mobile device that supports it.

Both have strengths and weaknesses.

I'd say the better question to this debate is: Why so we need backwards compatibility?

If there aren't enough new games to play, then bring on BC. However, we're deep into this gen and each system has well over 100 games (with many more to come) so why go back and play inferior prequels to games?

Death821d ago

If b/c isn't needed, why has Sony invested so much to make the PS3 library available to PS4 owners? The same argument against free b/c kills PSNow. The difference between this gen and last isn't that big as far as visual fidelity goes. Indie games look generations older and they are making money hand over fist on todays consoles. The market for playing older games is very viable. The only ones saying it isn't needed are the ones that don't have it.

Ron_Danger821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

Picking and choosing which of my points to argue doesn't some how make your response correct. PS Now is a games streaming service, not a backwards compatibility service. It's for streaming PS3 games, and which platform did it come to first?? The PS3. It's also on the vita and in smart TVs. So you don't even need a PS4 to use the service. What happens if you don't have an XBox 1 or a 360 but want to play Halo 3?? What are your options then?

The end game for PS Now is to stream PS4 games, and in the future, stream new games without needing discs or a hard drive. If you stream a new PS4 game using PSNow then your BC argument is gone.

Death821d ago

PSNow's open beta hit PS4 first. The official launch also happened on the PS4 months before it hit the PS3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

About the only way you can claim PSNow hit the PS3 first is if you were part of the internal/closed beta. As far as the public is concerned it's always been on the PS4 first.

You are correct though, Vita and select HDTV's can also access the service along with tablets and smart phones in the future.

What if you don't have a PS3 or PS4 and want to play Uncharted? Last I checked Vita's and PSNow compatible HDTV's weren't free. Pre-owned 360's cost less than a pre-owned Vita at Gamestop. I'm guessing the HDTV is a couple bucks more, so your argument that you don't need hardware to access PS3 games isn't based on anything factual.

You are still avoiding the fact that Sony believes the back catalog of PS3 games has value. The only choice to access these games on a PS4 is thru the subscription service. Microsoft is offering access through free backwards compatibility as well as the option to buy the games digitally and run them through the same emulator that is making b/c possible. Both companies seem to believe "old" games have value. This is why we "need" backwards compatibility which is the question you originally asked.

Orbilator821d ago

Yet I still own my ps3 and about 90 games, I have not even thought about playing any of them in the last year since moving my ps4 to the prime spot in the lounge. Ps3 is still connected and could play my games anytime.but all it is used for is streaming Netflix and nowtv for the kids. BC is dead for me and I believe that for most people it will be a fad for a couple weeks then put to bed forever. Playstation now will never entice me either. Sad to say, I'm going forward not backwards

3-4-5821d ago

* PS now is good if you missed a game in a series and want to just rent it and beat the game, but it's not a long term solution to anything and I think even Sony knows that.

* I'm wondering if they put BC into a new PS4 model near holiday 2016.

InTheLab821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

Bubs up and bubs up to the reasonable people who agreed with this. I thought for sure there'd be people in here talking about how awesome it would be to pay absurd prices for old games.....or something.

Really wish MS and Sony could have pulled a WiiU and made it easy to do BC from the start.

edit: well I guess I spoke too soon. Listen guys, it's simple. FREE> NOT FREE

magiciandude821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

Yeah, when it comes to BC, Wii U is the example to beat. PS Now is the example to avoid, especially with the current absurd pricing structures. I remember when people were expecting to stream their PS3 collection for free and I was like the only one doubting the concept based on my knowledge with cloud gaming and the associated business that it involves.

XanderZane821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

PSNow would be fine if they got rid of all the rental fees and just charged like $25 a year subscription fee. They could even do a pay as you go $5 a month charge. But noooooo, Sony wants to be greedy with PSNow. I think after seeing XB1 B/C they may change their pricing on the PSNow.

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@VsAssassin
Yes and you have to PAY to play those games on those other devices and the games are streamed and you don't own them. Yes, there truly is no comparison. True B/C is better in every way.

Takwin821d ago

I am a huge Sony fan and PS3 and PS4 owner. BUT IN EVERY WAY IMAGINABLE THE XBOX ONE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY IS SUPERIOR.

comebackkid9891821d ago

Is PSX/PS2 BC so much to ask?

joeorc821d ago

How so? Was it not all last generation one not charging for online game play not as good as those that layer for Xbox live gold, because one company charging can make their network better with cost paying by consumers making sure the network is better than a free option?

Would that very same thing apply now, would making consumers pay allow backwards comparability be better as you go along than the free option, because money is going back into the service making it better?

Or is still free the better option now over layer service investment making a better service?

Spotie821d ago

If they serve different purposes, isn't it hard to say one is better than the other. Yes, a car is going to be better than a house at getting your around, but that's a stupid comparison, even if they both hold people.

And that "games you already own" stuff is such tripe.

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magiciandude821d ago

No. It's not available for every PS4 owner, and for the PS4 owners that can use it, they are required a recurring payment. Sony won't let players stream their PS3 collection for free on the house. This is way too expensive on Sony's part.

Why o why821d ago

agreed

there is no comparison

WizzroSupreme821d ago

Nope, not even close when you have to pay top dollar for it.

MysticStrummer821d ago

Does XB1 BC require XBL Gold? Just an honest question. PS Now doesn't require PS+, but those rental prices are too high as you said.

XiMasterChief821d ago

XBOX ONE BC is completely free (no GOLD needed).