Project Cars 2 was announced today with a crowdfunding goal of £7,000,000, roughly $11 million.
11,000,000 good luck. You will need it! What about the cash from PC 1 where did that go?
People are already angry that they're not spending more time polishing the first one. If they expect to get that much money from the fans, that's going to be hard. Unless they have investors going through that campaign or something.
What about the Wii U version whos supporters funded a huge portion of the orriginal game? Fu** this developer. I would rather play Assissins Creed Unity than Project Cars and they will never see the light of day for Project Cars 2. These jackasses can rot in hell. Not to mention the games looks like crap compared to driveclub and Forza.
$11 Million? Where did the money for the first one go? Better yet, why announce the 2nd one so early? Why not just make some DLC cars?
Why aren't the developers funding it themselves with the money they made off of the first game? This just looks like they want a handout. Isn't the goal of kickstarter to help folks who don't have the capital in the first place not help those that already do? With all the complaints folks have about this game I have to say poo poo to you good sirs.
I really, really hope that they don't reach anywhere near their goal of 11 million.. That's just [email protected]*king greedy and taking advantage of their fans.... Shame...
I am sorry I think slightly mad studious must think people are just, "mad" because this is just crazy. The first game just recently been released, the first game on pc is still filled with bugs and you announced a second game?? Not only that, you retail release the game, offer DLC practice and you won't use the revenue you made to fund your second iteration ? I'm sorry they are slightly mad over there and anyone who support this just needs to go dig a hole while I get another beer.
Wow this is not good. The Xbox one version is still broken. You can blame hardware all you want but im not having that as Forza 6 is 60fps 1080p with weather yet Project Cars struggles being a port. Fine I get its harder to port to the Xbox one but its no excuse for the game being unplayable at times. There have been too many games like this so far this new gen. Drive club and Halo MCC of the 1st party but what they have done by fixing them and also giving extra to the fans has kind of helped with this but 3rd party are just starting to take it too far now. Fix Project Cars 1st then say we are making a 2nd not release it broken then say thanks for all the cash we will now start the 2nd game. I am part hoping the 2nd game flops because of this and I never want a game to flop.
@mcstorm, Forza may be 60fps/1080p, but does it have the same texture quality and effects as Project Cars? Honest question...I don't know. Just saying there's more to graphics than resolution and FPS. Anyways, I had a bad feeling about PC from the start. There was no way it was going to match the hype.
I was thinking the same thing. I didn't even buy the first game yet and will wait for the price to drop. No plans on funding the 2nd game. They better hope some investors come around and start funding it. Just by the initial start of this fund raiser you can tell they will have a hard time raising the funds they need.
Project CARS wasn't even such a great game, this has to be a joke from the developers. I ran into two unbelieveable glitches during my 3 hours with the game, they should fix their game before demanding 11mio additional bucks.
I don't know but I guess I'll play devils advocate here. It's not like they scam their fans with this, everyone gets what they pay for. It's not like they're asking for charity. They have to deliver on this investment. Until they start abusing the fans by shipping poor quality products. I don't really see it as a problem. The studio have always advertised their new development system as 'community assisted and funded' so, there games and studio exists on this kind of funding. I think people forget that kickstarter isn't a charity system. They are unlikely to have an excess of cash from their previous game because they are a very large studio and the money they raised with kickstarter goes into shipping that game to consumers. For what it's worth, Project Cars 2 seems very ambitious, and frankly, at present no one is delivering anything close to the experience project cars is offering. Project Cars has vastly better physics simulation than Forza, and even Gran Turismo (more so the former than the latter), yet unlike other similar physics focused rating simulators like R-Factor and iRacing, PCars offers vastly more content out of the box.
way too soon
How so? developers usually start on next iteration almost immediately after they finish their current project.. We prob won't see PCars 2 for another 2 or 3 years.Technically they started on Pcars 2 during Pcars 1 development.. That said, this is total BS. They should have enough to fund their own game considering how well PCars 1 did, or even if they don't have enough I'm sure there are publishers out there wanting to back them.This "pay to tell us what you want in the game" thing should not be a normal trend. Well i'm sure they will receive some funds, but I doubt they reach that goal any time soon.
cause the game only came out less than 2 months ago. Fans are still asking for some fixes with the core game. I don't mind them developing and starting the project for Project Cars 2 but the announcement is way too soon
That doesn't really explain why you think it's too soon, you basically said it's too soon because it's too soon lol but I get it.. I understand that the first game still need fixes, but it doesn't make sense for the entire team to just halt production and work on updates.Its like when people tell SMS to focus on physics instead of making cars, when in reality its completely different people working on physics and the cars, so working on one doesn't hinder the other.People need to educate themselves on video game development... Before getting upset at least..
They wont get another dime from me. I backed Project Cars very early in development when it was a PC racing simulator... and it should have stayed that way. Instead, they took the money from PC gamers to create the game and then port it to console platforms who didn't pay a damn thing for it's development. Not to mention the fact that this porting to other platforms resulted in the finished PC version being poorly optimized and buggy. This is exactly why Chris Roberts said Star Citizen will never see a console version.
Developers are perfectly capable of making buggy PC games without needing to blame it on console ports.
Console players bought P.Cars in droves. First week sales had 6% PC only (the percentage could be higher now but I don't think it would even be 25%) Since PC version is supposed to be the best version, I don't think not having a console version would increase sales as to compensate for the lack of console sales, those who had PC's that's more powerful than consoles would surely choose the PC version) I'm not keen on this kickstarter though.
I hope they don't reach their goal, I really don't want this to become a trend. Microtransactions are bad enough as it is, soon they'll make us fund the game then pay $60 for it, and then they'll kill us with Microtransactions.
With Forza6 around the corner with more cars and features I can't see this KS being successful, especially after burning the WiiU owners. SMS need to show what they did with the PC1 money. All those console sales of PC must have banked them some cash.
Plus Asseto Corsa. I'm sticking with that and the inevitable GT7. I didn't really like PCars much but I'm still giving it a chance.
* What a joke of a dev group.
No chance what do ever. Money grabbing so and so's
Slightly Mad Studios? More like Fully Mad Studios amirite?
so after the first game that didn't come out on wii u with a mountain of excuses after fans supported this game you dare to ask money for the second while still banking on the first game wth!! this just looks like the developer wants to create a game but only want to reap profits with no investment whatsoever Slightly Mad ?? They must mean Mad crazy
what was the sales of number 1? and where is the money from it? what a way to quickly damage your rep. make a game,make profit ask for money to make a 2nd game and keep the money from the 1st?
Welcome to the world of Crowd Funded game design. This needs to fail horribly before it becomes commonplace.
you're havin' a giraffe mate.
Shenmue 3 wanted and adored by many. PCars 2 - announced just after the first game launched - You're avin a tin bath mate.
I want to be a part of this, but alas, 'merica.
LOL really? can't they use all the money the made from selling project cars and invest in the new one? from what I've hard Project cars sold over 1 million copies already so I'm sure they have enough money to make a second game, or are they planing on keeping all the money for themselves and use people's money to make a new one then take the money and ask people for money again and so on? sounds like good buisness lmfao only profit no risk of losing since they using people's money to build games
I haven't looked into the numbers on the first, but that was what I was thinking as well honestly. I mean, if they can get the money from crowdfunding, sure, that works. But after having made a game that people wanted, I'd imagine they don't need to crowdfund another. Especially one asking for almost four times as much as the original.
Crowd funding is out of control. They are basically saying we don't want to spend our own cash on development.
Agree. I just don't like this business trend, so we fund the project and on top of that we paid for the final product... Huh...
It's not out of control. They're not taking money at gunpoint and you shouldn't pay a dime if you don't want to.
@NickTheSlick no, you are the one saying that. I said exactly what i said in my post.
11M? I would give zero dollars
Why aren't they using money made from Project Cars to fund Project Cars 2? So people are supposed to fund everything for them now?
They spent it on booze and strippers. Why spend it on development when you can always just ask people for more money?
Right! Just tack on a few Nintendo stretch goals then tell them you meant "maybe" when it's time to release!
At least 1 year too soon.
Was thinking the same thing. Your game just came out a few months ago and you already are annoucing a sequel?
Here's an idea, instead of relying on donations to create huge profits for your company, invest some of your own money now that you've had some success. This is ridiculous. Social funding should be used for small companies with little resources to get their ideas off the ground, not as a charity providing a discount to the production costs of profitable, established developers. What next? Are Apple crowd-funding the development of the next iPhone?
Quiet you fool, you'll give Apple ideas!!
Apple doesn't need to crowdfund. People throw money at them regardless. They print dead president either way.
Let them do as they wish. If they're wrong their kickstater will fail and the community would have spoken. If it succeeds well then the community would have spoken as well.
Really, Mad Studios ? Are you freaking kidding me ? This is why I don't trust the studio more than other.
Crowd funding is getting out of hand now
Nothing is wrong with Crowd funding. You choose to give, you choose to support. They don't want to be owned and want to remain independent and I'm fully ok with that. When they get support by a publisher, they will also have to make some sacrifices with some freedoms. Though many feel its for those who are "deserving", thats a subjective idea. Business is objective, what do you want Project Cars 2 for? Oh...$40? Well give you a copy if you pay us early. One doesn't need to do this, one doesn't need to support it. Its 100% user choice, its hard to get mad at as its not hurting me, as I'm not giving to those kickstarter. I give to kickstarters I personally believe in and have interest in.
Crowd funding is great for startups with little capital, not mature businesses. I hate the precedent stuff like this is setting.
Well, it's still a small studio and they didn't become billionaire overnight with a million sales on 3 platform... Other small studios like Harebrained or Inxile also made several kickstarters that were successful...so resorting to crowdfunding again is ok. But the problem I personally have with this is the price. 50 pounds just to get a key is insane, most crowdfunded games have keys as reward between 15 and 30 . I doubt most "crowdfunders" will take a risk and help funding a game two years in advance if they don't even get a discount. Also 11 million seems too high. I'm not even sur Shenmue 3 will get there...
These guys who behind Need for Speed Shiff 1 and 2.
they delivered on there promises and released a game, that's more then a lot of Crowd funded projects maybe they could organize a demo for project cars 2
Oh they sure did deliver on their promises... To at least SOME portion of those that backed them anyways. Wii U backers? Eh, screw em. There's only 10 million Wii U owners anyways, stupid gullible Nintendo gamers. Ha! And they actually believed us when we told them we were going to make a game for their system lol! Idiots. Let's add another Wii U stretch goal for this new game- after all $11 million isn't going to raise itself!
I was one the backers of the first Game we were promised a discount of final Game. After seeing builds every month the money generate greatly I felt this was a great project my disapointment started when they launched on steam at the time my money was tight i wanted buy Project cars but had to wait I then noticed a discount offerd to me but only for limited time... Now thats cheeky i Pledged $15. They had great funding I truely believed this would alow the studio to branch out after all not only did they get funding but also sold well across platforms now they want to reach out pleed for us to pay for a new game again... Not from me
They think they will be the next shenmue lol
Even Shenmue wont make it to 11M unless some company help out.
That's easy! Just take the money from those clueless Wii U owners again! No one will notice!/s Seriously, f*** these people. Take your subpar simulator wannabe away, no one needs it.
Just as I said before. Where did all that cash go from those 1 million sales? Don't fall for this people, not that there was a chance these fools would generate 11 million LOL.
Christ, you get the game (which you pay for) if you crowdfund it. Otherwise you don't have too and just wait for the game to launch. Otherwise seriously all, stfu I personally don't care what they do; it is just a method for you to support their vision now then later and you still get the product. Regardless, I wish them luck trying to get 11 million dollars...
I am really not digging this trend where we are expected to pre buy games before they are made. Do I get my money back if the game sucks and i don't want it ? I'm guessing no.
And tell me again why they can't fund this with the profits they made from the 1,000,000+ copies they sold of the first game on the dime of crowdfunding? And tell me again why they need crowdfunding after such a successful game and already got publisher backing from Namco Bandai? They lied to PS3 and 360 owners, they lied to Wii U owners, now they're taking advantage of the public again. I hope this team goes bankrupt. Never seen such a sorry bunch of lyin' thievin' crooks in my life
We already funded Project Cars 2 when we paid full retail for Project Cars 1. Something tells me this is going to blow up in their face. They aren't going to win over any fans with tasteless acts such as this.
Crowd Funding: Taking the risk away from companies and handing it over to the consumer.
Exactly!!!! That's why I will never donate to kickstarter. People are apprehensive about purchasing complete games if they receive lukewarm reviews but, they'll pay for games that are 2 years from completion. I just don't understand that concept.
Wow. This is how you give back to a dedicated community that got the project off the ground in the first place. Abandon your game right out of the gate. Wouldn't be surprised if you're required to shove another £50 inside the disc tray to even get the Project Cars 2 to work...yknow, to fund Project Cars 3!