MCV: Sony boss fires back at Don Mattrick's claim that Xbox 360 will outsell PS3 this generation
its funny how it seem his is being nice, but he is really making fun of MS with the whole xbox thing. its like he is saying that the 360 wont live past this generation.
@1 That's not being nice man, those are fightin' words lol
Reported as offensive. There is no need for that in the gamer zone. Take his bubbles as well.
I also reported him.
5 years or 10 years it don't matter. PS3 will have the lead in 2 years. Kaz Harai will smash the doubters at TGS.
To me it sounds like he is implying that Microsoft will only sell the Xbox 360 for another year and if thats the case yeah they might sell more in Microsoft's 360 life cycle but not in PS3's life cycle. He also points out that maybe Microsoft just told on themselves and will stop selling Xbox 360's soon and bring out a new console in 2010. I really think the 360 is toward the end of its life cycle. Especially after hearing them make statements like that.
PS3 will have a larger install base by the end of next year. I doubt Microsoft Gaming Studios will bring the next xbox next year because 1. They are too confident right now with the 360 2. They always touted about lowering the 360 to $200. It will take them more than a year to get to that price point.
Kaz actually got it all wrong. The X360's lifecycle is only as long as its extended warranty.
Ps3 may outsell 360 in the long run but its not gonna be as emphatic as last generation.i mean the Ps2
And it's gonna be interesting to see what happens when the next xbox comes out. By then PS3 will have the court for a while attracting new games with large customer base while new xbox will have the most gorgeous games. It comes down to the customer if it's worth another purchase to get the latest thing. And it comes down to Microsoft on how much they dare spend $$$ to push the new games to attract new customers. Very interesting to see what happens.
Xbox 360 is selling more then xbox was last gen. But ps3 is selling just as well as ps2 last gen. There's no reason ps3 won't smash the 100 million sold mark again. Especially when it hits a good price, because the things ps3 can do smash the competition. People already realise that because even though ps3 has always been more expensive then 360, it outsells it continously. Hirai stated a while ago, they have a target of 150 million total ps3's sold. They seem confident enough. I somehow doubt 360 will get to the 100 million mark, i severely doubt that
xbox 720 or they name it, might come out within 2 yrs but i just can't stop thinking that game price might around 80. That would be too much money to pay for one game.
It was really messed up what they said during there press conference. They are suppose to be professionals & business men/women not talking like some fanboys posting on a website. It made them look horrible.
It is just business...That is how they operate.
looks like the big boys are having a console war lol
I think that by the end of 2009 the 360 will be in the lead ever so slightly over the PS3 (the Wii will still be owning all). The next year or so will see them neck and neck what with price cuts etc - 2010/2011 and then i think the new consoles will be released. After this time i would have thought that Sony would overtake MS in sales of the PS3 vs 360 2012+. By then MS will still be supporting the 360 but a mass majority of their efforts will be in the 720 - or whatever its gonna be called........
Jedi huh? arent you the same rabid fanboy always in the open zone? anyways..pretty flawed logic you got there. PS3 will be neck and neck till 2012 you say? how tho?..when they closed the 10 million gap to 5 million in one year,with "No games" there just starting to release there AAA titles now,along with HOME. did you take that into consideration? And with the consistent PS3 sales over 360.dont be surprised if it's ahead of moneysoft's console by the end of 09.
If only they spent more time figuring out how to sell more and less time saying they're going to beat the competition...
Well Microsoft is pretty arrogant for putting that at E3. However, Hirai's comments are a bit arrogant too, but one part of it makes sense. By "this generation" does Microsoft mean 5 years? 10 years? If Microsoft's 360 outsells Sony in 10 years, then yes. Hirai has to eat his own words and MS prevails. But who honestly can look that far in the future? Not even Sony or Microsoft can predict such things. So in conclusion, both are arrogant.
MS & Sony may both predict they're going to win, but nobody's as bold as Kaz claiming 150m PS3's in ten years! lol http://www.n4g.com/events_e...
remember the E3 '05 press conference from microsoft? J. Allard and Peter Moore said (at that conference)360 will have 1 billion gamers on live during 360s lifetime. that's more outrageous. one billion? i saw geoff keighly, morgan webb,adam sessler making fun of ms for that. and i do think that's way more outrageous than hirais' commments. although kaz should have considered the 150 mil. an aspiration rather than a guarantee.
Not a poor memory mate, just never knew that! Frickin ridiculous lol Anyways thanks for informing me and can you post me a link I can check out? Preferably one that shows Sessler having a field day, as he tends to shoot pretty straight with his rants! Good thing Moore and Allard don't speak on MS behalf like that anymore! :)
So both companies are guilty of making crazy statements. But I like Sony's "We're sticking to supporting our first party studios and we have this, this, and that game only on our system" opposed to Microsofts "YEAHHH BISSHHESSS!!! We got that game on our platform now!!! WooHoo console wars over!!!" attitude.
It's a stupid claim from Don Mattrick. Good response from Hirai. MS hasn't proven themselves enough in the console business to say stuff like that. It would be better for them to shut the fck up and keep their focus on the 360.
Bubbles for you. Sony hasn't gotten this far off of nothing, after all.
Jenzo, go back to sucking Bill's d!ck.
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you can stick that Ps3 up your ass b!tch
did you really think you wouldn't get disagrees for that dumb comment... you are one of the stupidest fanboys i've seen.....
PS3 wins, by self-inflicted fatality by the 360
Handbags at ten paces gentlemen!! Seriously though, nice comeback to a very arrogant statement which done nothing more than make Microsoft appear as insecure and petty at E3.
Mattricks comment is one of the most laughable to ever come out of someones mouth at E3, and that says a lot. I am guessing that the ps3 will be at about 22 million by the end of this year and the 360 will be at about 25 million. Next xmas? 37 million ps3's and about 34 million 360's. Just my guess, but what the h*ll is Mattrick thinking when they NEVER win a month ever? They were outsold last year even with HALO backing them. They will be outsold again this year and next and the year after. Its just idiotic to say that and then show nothing at your conference to back those words up. 85% of the games they showed were multiplat games and their largest announcement was that a game was going multiplat. I am sorry Mattrick but thats not how you win a console generation.
Somehow I just can't see either of these consoles lasting 10 years at the sharp end. Maybe there will still be support for the PS3 but the hardware is nowhere near powerful enough to last 10 years its that simple. Graphics cards on PC advance at an alarming rate and to think the the PS3 will be competing graphically in 8 years time is just silly. Conole life cycles are generally 5 years with a couple extra if it's a huge success like the PS2 but even after 5 years it was looking dated.
O_o....really? It was looking "dated" after 5 years? You do realize that most of the games that the PS2 was famous for (and still lauded today as pretty damn high achievements in gameplay and graphics) didn't come out until 5 years in to the console's lifespan.
The PS2 was released in 2000. Metal Gear Solid 3: 11/17/2004 God of War: 3/22/05 Shadow of the Colossus: 10/18/05 Remember Kingdom Hearts? Yeah, that didn't land in the US until almost 2.5 years after the console was released (9/16/02). However, look at how much better Kingdom Hearts 2 looked than the first KH and it was released, imagine that, 5 years after the console was first released (3/28/06 in the US 12/22/05 in JP). Soul Calibur III? 5 years in the consoles life cycle: 10/25/05 God of War 2? 7 years in to the console cycle! 3/13/07 Final Fantasy XII? 6 years in to the console cycle: 10/31/06 Okami? 6 years in to the cycle: 9/19/06 Star Ocean 3? 4 years in to the cycle. 08/31/04 Most of the top selling games for the PS2 didn't show up until well in to the console's life cycle. I can remember that for YEARS all I pretty much had was Soul Reaver 2, FFX, Silent Hill 2, and Soul Calibur 2 and that was pretty much IT for the PS2 as far as blockbusters (as far as I can remember). Well, ICO was awesome, but it wasn't a blockbuster at the time. However, as the games continued to come -after- those first initial releases they only got better and better as time went on. Soul Calibur 3 looks much better than SC2. God of War 2 crushed GoW1 in terms of graphics, and FFXII (like it or love it) pretty much crushed FFX in the graphics department. To say that the PS2 looked "dated" when it was actually hitting its stride isn't just wrong it's stupid. As far as the Xbox 360 is concerned I can remember when all it was getting was "HD" versions of PS2 games -and- was still being outsold in terms of software. Oh, and that was during the PS2's "dated" looking games too.
I'm not disputing the fact that great games were released 5 years or after on PS2, what I am disputing is that graphically they were all nothing special, yes they pushed the boundaries of the PS2 because developers were maxing out the PS2 hardware by then so obviously sequels were looking better but graphically compared to PC they did look dated because DX8 and the DX9 pissed all over them with advanced pixel shading. I owned a PS2 and enjoyed most of those games you mentioned but graphically the PS2 was in my opinion dated, even compared to the xbox games at that time. Look at the multi plat realeases at the time, you mentioned Soul Calibur 3; graphically much better on xbox, Colin Mcrae 4 again the shading and frame rate was better on xbox, and I wouldn't even say the xbox was graphically brilliant for the time compared to PC. I am simply saying that 10 years life-cycle for a console, graphically is too much as the games will look dated. Not to say that there still wouldn't be great games released, graphics are not everything.
When ever the next Xbox comes out I won't buy it. I will just get a good video card and play there games on the PC.
You mean just like what some people are doing now?
And I bet the video card will be more expensive than the "Xbox720?".
1st, they have to create a console that actually works, don't rush anything this time. Secondly, they have to have a price tag that won't put them in the same place Sony was with the Ps3. If that console is priced too high, it won't sell that well, especially if it is flawed like the 360 was. Gates, heres a fair warning, if you put out another rushed console you will indeed fail again in the next generation. Everyone always says the third time is the charm, lets hope so Bill!!!!!!! Sony's ps3 is in the drivers seat, right now. The 360 is pretty much tapped out.
Sorry for speaking out for SONY, but no worries I shall never reveal their secrets! Just here to reassure people of the truth, as someone has to help set things straight with the onslaught of terrible PR coming in from the "other" company.
Yeah;) SONY need to stick up for themselves. PS3 is going well;) It's all good. But Micro$lags and internet sites and xBots try and try to bring them down :-/ Anyway 99% of the world don't read this stuff!!! ;-D So they liked the PS1 + PS2 so they will buy the PS3 soon!!! EASY!!!;) King Kaz is the Man tho!!!;) He will crush them HARD!!! ;-P
He has my full support.Sony will not back down to chess-club Microsoft uber-nerds.We are the true pioneers of gaming.Microsoft is pioneering in microwaves and consoles with the graphical power of the Game Boy Advance.Mattrick is the kind of man who was bullied in high school because of his pocket protector.
Rarely do the highups at SONY like to fire back in the media, but with MS acting like a 12 year old kid with their constant supply of PS3 bashing statements, SONY has to stand their ground at least a few times. Is that really all you got MS? "My dad can beat up your dad" articles and statments from your CEO's? What a shame. MS should try letting JUST their games do the talking. Ahh i almost forgot, they had to purchase a few from SONY's console..no wonder they resort to such degraded levels.
that shane kim guy and is on pure crack seriously, all MS people are like 5yr old children
Microsft are like ostridges, they stick their heads in sand when they here how xbox 360 is losing every month.
Kaz, just do the honorable thing and commit seppuku!
i love how ms all they can ever say is oh were gonna beat sony they should change they're lil catch phrase of "jump in" to "help us beat sony please" and while all that sony is just sticking to THEIR plan the competition doesn't dictate wat they do
does Sony get sick of responding to statements made against Sony by Microsoft? Must it always be a sausage party anytime Microsoft enters the room?
It highlighted Microsoft's desperation, particularly because they're still last place in hardware sales for 2008. They basically gave a bunch of ammunition to Nintendo (who now dominates every territory) as well as to Sony, who will obviously surpass them in cumulative sales within the next calendar year.
Everyone knows that Sony has the strategy and know how to make a console last. The Playstation goes after the global market while the 360 right now is just selling well in America. Wait till around 2010 and we will see how the two consoles compare in terms of market sales.
360 also has a price cut, and ps3 is still outrageously expensive. SHUT THE FAWK UP FOR ONCE YOU ARROGANT PS3 BASTARDS.
Someone needs to get this guy a calculator.
i bought an xbox1 with LIVE sub and everything, then i got left out in the cold by M$'s 5 year console life cycle - then i find out they will just charge my credit card $50 if i don't cancel LIVE without my permission. bunch of crooks, now they want me to "jump in" to a RROD just so they can release the xbox720 (phoenix) i don't care what LIVE offers GAMES are what matter KZ2 R2 LBP inFamous 1st party GAMES
Since crysis, what other grapically amazing titles have been on show.? Answer none: Bioshock is on all platforms.(incase anyone mentions it) I'm a pc fanboy, prob always will be. See if you look at old consoles, ps2 didn't have alot of pixel shading capabilites, and it didn't have much ram. Now the way things stand now. Yes pc can go into higher rez, and have heavier textures, but not everyones system can run all games at their best graphics etc. Don't get me wrong, PC graphic cards have come along way, but the software just ins't there. Atm most of the big titles on pc are from either console, or something specially made for pc(aka crysis) If sony can speed up texture throughput on the ps3,streaming from a blu-ray, like uncharted can, i see no reason why the ps3 will not look good in 8-10years, i think at the 7year mark you'll hear ps4. It's interesting either way.
Microsoft is getting WAY to coc ky!!
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