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Rise of the Tomb Raider On Xbox One Won't Be Held Back By Xbox 360, Comments On Timed Exclusivity

Brian Horton assures that the Xbox One version won't be held back due to the Xbox 360.

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spicelicka3224d ago

Are you the director at Crystal dynamics? Seems like you know everything.

UltimateMaster3224d ago

I do think they'll be doing their best for each platforms.
However.... this game should have been an Xbox One exclusive, if you can get in on the 360, then later on other platforms, then what gives?
It's not going to convince anyone to go out and buy and Xbox One.

Nirvana315913224d ago

The graphics already look like they're held back by the 360. The only people denying that are die hard fanboys

Dirtnapstor3224d ago

@Nirvana
You need to read up... The 360 version is being done/ported by a different developer.

freshslicepizza3224d ago

it will be interesting if they can achieve 1080p and 30fps like they said they are. i expect this will be out within a year on the ps4 unless microsoft pays to lock it up like they did with titanfall. which may very well happen and become a microsoft exclusive like ryse and dead rising 3. sony is probably thinking the same thing with no mans sky.

OrangePowerz3224d ago

@Nirvana

I don't even like the X1 and to me the gameplay they showed looked very good.

gatormatt803224d ago

Seriously though, do you honestly expect the game director to say..

"Well we've decided to hold back the X1 version of ROTTR to achieve parity with the 360."

ShinMaster3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

Well it's easier to upscale than to downscale, so this game was definitely made with last-gen consoles in mind from the beginning.
But I'd say it still looks good.
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Anyway, I'm calling it 6 months before it makes its way to PC/PS4.

LonDonE3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

@Nirvana
Exactly only blind fanboys and single console gamers (x1 only) gamers are in denial!
Just go look at the uncharted 4 footage, no way in hell ps3/360 could ever run it! Its not just about the graphics, but the physics, lighting, level size and scope, seamless animations etc No WAY IN HELL!!!

obviously they could strip everything down massively, but then it wouldnt be the same game.

Then go watch the new tomb raider footage, its laughable compared to uncharted 4 a true next gen exclusive!
I am looking forward to both games, but unlike some i own and game on all platforms and i call it as i see it.

Just look at that bear fur? Lmao its embarrasing! They should of made it current gen only.
Game play will be great in both, but trust me uncharted is gonna make ROTTR look like a last gen game, watch both the videos.

Hell uncharted 2 and 3 had better snow and water, fire etc.
Keep it real fanboys, i will be playing both games but will u? If not stop the hate and dont lie to your selves!

krypt19833224d ago

@UltimateMaster if u haven't noticed xbox is all about options now so whatever suits you, not sony telling you want you want like ea access and backwards compatibility

GameNameFame3224d ago

if it isn't being held back by Xbox 360, then it must be being held back by Xbox One. given its weaker hardware, getting to 1080P must had its sacrifices.

medman3224d ago

@spicelicka
The only way the game could not be held back is if they are not the same game...the bottom line is, if the xbox 360 version is essentially the same game, with the same size areas to explore...then there is a problem, and they definitely designed the xbone version with the 360 in mind.

BISHOP-BRASIL3224d ago

Everytime a game is released to both current and past gen, it will be held back by it, doesn't matter who's saying it won't.

That's just how development goes today, publishers/devs don't go around spending money on making proper multiple versions of the same game, they just do something that all target platforms can handle, than they adjust effects and stuff accordingly.

This doesn't mean anything bad, in fact, if we look at games that are being released from past gen to current and then some (PC), you'll probably notice that devs are getting really good with scalable assets and what not now, but frankly old gen was just too different coding wise, making the whole scalable thing work much better between current gen and PC alone.

In a way they are getting to the point where they can still extract enough from all platforms to make respectable games all around with the usual multiplatform development model, but to say it doesn't hold anything back at all is not just delusional, it's an out right lie.

Kribwalker3224d ago

Forza horizon 2 was done by different devs and it was not held back on X1. 360 version was smaller with less to do

Utalkin2me3223d ago

@OrangePowerz

So a cinematic climbing the side of a ice mountain looked like amazing gameplay. Wow, ok. There was no really gameplay in what they showed. Was Laura running around? Was she killing stuff? or was she using weapons? So technically enlighten me on how that gameplay looked good?

miyamoto3223d ago (Edited 3223d ago )

Looks great on Xbox One
Will look greater on PS4 and PC

MS knew the risks of this move and were willing to take the financial hit

OrangePowerz3223d ago (Edited 3223d ago )

@Utalkin

I didn't say amazing. I said what they showed looked very good to me. Because there was no shooting, weapons, running around or whatever else something can't look good? The gameplay and animations looked very smooth and fluid and the graphics also looked good. They already had the shooting down on the first game so I certainly wouldn't be worried that they screw it up for the sequel.

I hate to be nitpicking but it's Lara not Laura :)

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darkslayer2083224d ago

Anther PR damage control by Crystal dynamics..

KyRo3224d ago

Surely you can't push a game to its limits when you know you have to make the game playable on 10 year old hardware at the same time? I want what was not possible on last gen systems, not the same with fancier graphics held back because they had to think of the limitations of the last consoles.

jb2273224d ago

Judging by e3 previews & dev interviews, the only 'new' things this game is doing is presenting a few bigger tombs & introducing bear fights. Only 2 locations, minor upgrading systems and more of the same really. I'd love to play it & I'm sure it'll be a great game, but you are absolutely right, the 360 version will hold this back, sure the graphics will be prettier on XBO but there's no info released yet that's making this game next gen. People need to learn how to read between the lines & manage expectations...no need for hyperbole when the devs itself have set the realistic standards on what to expect going in. If you dug the first one, chances are this will be more of the same w/ a new setting & prettier graphics. If you were expecting a huge globe trotting leap forward for the series, you will be let down.

ELE_Victim3224d ago

And what kind of new ideas and advances are being held back due to it being on the 360? Name just one....

There aren't any. The old consoles can do EVERYTHING the new ones can, only with much lesser resolution and framerate.

ThePresentIsAgift3224d ago

I guess Doom on PC must have been "held back" by the SNES version, because devs can't possibly create bespoke versions for alternative hardware.

Oh that's right it was the mid nineties on a 16 bit cartridge fed console and they still worked it out.

FlameBaitGod3224d ago

LMFAO like if next gen games where being held by PS3 and X360, what a joke

XanderZane3224d ago

Only in your biased dreams. The game looks better then expected by many gamers. There's no way this game will be held back. Horizon 2 was released on the XBox 360 and XB1 and the XB1 is far superior and it wasn't held back either. They are like two separate games. This is Day One for me. I have faith this game will even be better then the first one.

@Nirvana31591
Not being held back. Only biased trolling fanboys who don't own an XB1 think it is.

Give_me_head_strong3223d ago (Edited 3223d ago )

@angelsx- You know a lot about being held back, I bet.

BallsEye3223d ago

How? It was hands down best looking game on e3.

Professor_K3223d ago

held back by troll opinions more like it.

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rainzor3224d ago

It is held back; you can already see the mediocre graphics from the e3 gameplay and trailer

bananaboats3224d ago

looked amazing to me, especially the facial animation. nothing mediocre about it. just a bunch of hating trolls is all I have seen since this game was annouced

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Professor_K3223d ago

@Big Finger

xbox fans dont give a damm about uncharted but you ps trolls keep bring it up lol pathetic.

KarmaV123224d ago

I know right. The game looks f**king phenomenal. The vistas in the back drop on the E3 demo looked insanely good not to mention the depth in the character models and facial features.

Mkai283224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

Wonder if they'd be saying the same thing if it was exclusive to PS4 with that same footage?.. As far as timed exclusive it depends on how it does, if it does well Microsoft may just keep it exclusive, but I see it going to PC.

kraenk123223d ago (Edited 3223d ago )

@Mkai28

Game is coming to PS4 as sure as the Pope has to pee in the morning.

Otherwise MS would scream it's console exclusivity form the roof tops! instead 0> holiday exclusive! you get the picture.

holiday exclusive?! I say 1-2 months it will be on PS4 before Uncharted 4 will come out!

Game looks great btw.

Haru3223d ago

@starchild

if you mean one of the best looking games at microsoft conference then I agree most of the games showed there were ugly anyways, But Sony and EA showed much better looking games Uncharted 4 looks miles better can't even compare the two Horizon looks way better Battlefront looks even better Mirror's edge looks better most of the game showcased at Sony's and EA's conferences looked better than tomb raider

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starchild3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

Mediocre graphics? Come on now, that's not true and you know it. It's actually one of the best looking games I saw at E3. The facial animation, as one example, is probably the most accurate and realistic facial animation ever seen in a game. But lighting, textures/materials, post process effects, dynamic snow, large scale, etc are all top notch as well.

christocolus3224d ago

You guys are just hilarious. Dont you ever stop? Lmao. I enjoyed that trailer and i've seen more gameplay videos and the game looks amazing.

jb2273224d ago

I think the graphics are great, although not necessarily on par w/ the best of what we've seen so far this gen. I think really what's holding the game back is the quick turnaround and that has hampered the gameplay growth from 1 to 2. If you watch GT's coverage or most any other outlet, they've all said that the crafting & weapons haven't really grown that much over the prior game, then the interviews w/ the devs have confirmed that there are only 2 locations, the main Siberia location and a small stop in the desert of Syria. The enemies are largely the same and the climbing mechanics are the same. The only real improvements or changes aside from graphical fidelity is the idea of a larger focus on tombs, something that remains to fully be seen at this point (remember that the devs also said there'd be a focus on tombs for the last game and that was obviously a relative statement), and the introduction of Bear battles. Some things don't need much changing from iteration to iteration, but when you compare those few small pieces to all of the new things that other games, most namely Uncharted 4 are doing w/ their transition to a new console, it makes me wish they would've had the time to truly make this game something new & special. The lack of location variety is the biggest sore spot for me personally. Globe trotting is my favorite aspect of adventure games & a big part of Lara's legacy (not to mention one of the main factors that made another sequel, UC2 one of the modern classics of last gen), but it's been largely neglected w/ the move to the semi open world, a genre that's already being over done imo.

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Vasto3224d ago

Glad I own a Xbox One. Haters keep hating!

fallacious3224d ago

It's also coming to PS4 and PC.

Vasto3224d ago

PC next year but no PS4.

uptownsoul3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

@Vasto

As far as Timed Raider, why can nobody at Microsoft, Crystal Dynamics, or Square Enix just say the only devices the game can ever be played on??? I mean Microsoft doesn't have a problem with announcing Xbox games on PC. But they're talking about Timed Raider completely different because they can/have NEVER referred to it as just an "Exclusive". They ALWAYS have to refer to a time frame when talking about Timed Raider's "exclusivity". And again they referred to Titanfall as just Exclusive even though that went to PC. They're referring to Gears Ultimate Edition & Fable Legends as just Exclusives even though they're going to PC.

Bathyj3224d ago

@uptownsoul

Good point. How many times did we hear that big booming voice at the MS Conference "XBONE ONE AND WINDOWS EXCLUSIVE"

If it were going to window I dont think they would any problem saying that, even if it wer 6 months down the track.

The announcement even said Xbox Exclusive Holiday 2015.

deadpoolio3163224d ago

Whats your point....Its still going to get buried under mediocre sales by being exclusive to one console when Fallout, Battlefront, COD, Halo, Forza, and everything else MS has coming release all at the same time....

and in 6 months to a year when it pops up on PS4 it will get ignored again coming out around the same time as the game Tomb Raider now emulates Uncharted comes out....

Everytime you idiots try to run that its never coming to PS4 with your MS PR crap, Crystal Dynamics comes out and says NO ITS A TIMED EXCLUSIVE...

And NO I know moroic Xbot logic, its not the same principal as Street Fighter 5....SF5 wouldn't exist for quite a few years had Sony not of funded it, as opposed to MS trying to swoop in when a game is 50% completed to purchase TIMED exclusivity

d_g3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

the game looks Great

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i don’t know how the graphics is "mediocre"

@i3eyond the Circle
i Found some good gifs :)

http://giant.gfycat.com/Def...

http://i.imgur.com/7mQv2mq....

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after this who would say mediocre graphics

i3eyond the Circle3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

Thats excellent.

I wish someone would make a gif of the helicopter chase and the exploding facility escape.

This game is a graphical powerhouse and the low visibility snowy atmosphere (which is on purpose) shown in the trailers do it no justice.

You can see this games graphical integrity when she's pushing that mine cart too...it's really one of the best looking games out.

Wish someone could teach me how to make gifs from videos

KingKionic 3224d ago

"I wish someone would make a gif of the helicopter chase and the exploding facility escape."

Ah...here ya go.

http://imgur.com/hK7NPF9

i3eyond the Circle3224d ago

@kionic and truegamer

HELL YEAH dudes! You really just made my day. Saving those links!

Doesn't it look great? I think at e3 all we got was a taste.

jcnba283224d ago

Dat ass ;) but yeah the graphics look great.

KingKionic 3224d ago

Haters gonna hate Lara.

Great shots.

lemoncake3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

Game looks amazing, haters going to hate. Theres a lot of salty people over this game, tells you just how good this game is looking.

_-EDMIX-_3224d ago

I know right...can't wait to see what it looks like on PS4 and 4k on PC!

http://orig00.deviantart.ne...

christocolus3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

@d_g

It's obvious why some people are hating this game. its very obvious and it's quite hilarious too. lmao. the game looks amazing. nice shots

MasterCornholio3224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

I dont really hate the game. Sure im bothered that its a timed exclusive but i can wait.

:)

It pays to accept things the way they are instead of complaining all the time. Which is what i do and it makes me happy.

Anyways i have Uncharted 4 to hold me over until then. No idea why others dont have this attitude.

Spudinator2173224d ago

That 4th pic, she's got some arse......just saying.

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shadowknight2033224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

I just hate timed exclusives from third parties. On both microsofts end and sony's. But whatever I guess when it does eventually come to the ps4 ill be enjoying it.

Italiano12345673224d ago (Edited 3224d ago )

My guess is they made the 6 month exclusive deal wit Microsoft because originally u4 was due out the same time and they didn't want to compete with that. U will see a ps4 version that looks and plays better 6months or so after release

MasterCornholio3224d ago

The only thing they said that it was only for the holidays and they haven't started making the PS4 version yet. Which means it might take some time for the game to come out but I predict that well see it before next year is over.

jb2273224d ago

Have they said they aren't currently working on a PS4 version? Only thing I've read is that they are 'fully focused' on the MS platform. Doesn't exclude concurrent developmental procedures really. I agree we will see it before 2016 is over, but I actually think it's a shoe in for a summer release, right around the timeframe the definitive next gen edition of the last title released.

StrayaKNT3224d ago

Ps4 owners are used to waiting. They had to wait two years to play one good game and another year to play another good game lol so not suprised

emilijo7773224d ago

still waiting for one good Xbox One exclusive then. Not a single Xbox One exclusive so far scored 90+. Highest rated Xbox One "exclusive" is an indie game playable on pc lol

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jznrpg347d ago (Edited 347d ago )

Zero Dawn sold really well so I’m not sure this belongs. The second game released next to a big game again and it hurt it some I forget what it was though, oh yeah Elden Ring .
But a good game is a good game to me I don’t care when they release personally but they do have to think about it when you want to get more people to buy it.

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The Survivor Trilogy was a drastic reimagining of Lara Croft and Tomb Raider, and it provokes changes for the character that are truly fantastic.

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isarai461d ago (Edited 461d ago )

Deserves less IMO, i think the 1st in the new trilogy was a perfect 1st step for the new direction. The next 2 games were half steps at best. Not only that, every character in the series including Lara is just annoying and doesn't make sense in terms of motive, like yes they have a motive, but none of it seems proportional to the lengths they are willing to go through for it. The most annoying thing is every one of the games say "become the Tomb Raider" yet 3 games later and we're still not there? No thanks. Then there's the mess of the 3rd game, massive skill tree that serves almost no purpose as there's literally only like 3-4 short encounters in the whole game, and they took till the 3rd game to finally manage some decent puzzles even remotely close to previous games in the series. Nah, the trilogy infuriated me to no end as a long time fan of the series, i hope we get better going forward cause that crap sucked.

Army_of_Darkness459d ago

The first in the trilogy was my favorite. I thought they were going into the right direction with that one until the second one came out and seemed like a graphical downgrade but the gameplay was okay. As for the Third, Graphics were really nice but it was kinda boring me to death with its non-stop platforming and exploring with not enough action! Well, for me anyway...

DeathTouch459d ago

Graphics on the 3rd one were abysmal. It’s more colorful and has more variety, but everything else was a noticeable downgrade.

The more open world with NPC quests was also handled very poorly, to the point I missed Angel of Darkness.

thesoftware730459d ago

I know it is your opinion, but she did progress as a character in each game, she even got more muscular and seasoned.

That is the thing, people first complained that there was not enough platforming and actual tomb raiding in the first and second games. Shadow remedied that and kept the combat elements.

3-4 encounters? huh? did we play the same game? there was plenty of combat and, the skill tree did matter, like being able to hang enemies from trees, set explosives traps on bodies, being able to counter, and that are just a few of the combat skills. The skill tree also had things like being able to hold your breath underwater longer, crafting upgrades, zipline upgrade, and climbing upgrades that all changed how you can approach situations.

Not knocking your opinion, but we definitely had different experiences. I had 98% completion on the shadow.

SoulWarrior459d ago (Edited 459d ago )

Sorry but i'm with him about the low number of encounters, the game throws loads of weapons and skills you're way with a comparatively low amount of places to actually use them, so they felt under utilised.

-Foxtrot461d ago

Yeah...no

It was awful, for THREE GAMES it was "become the Tomb Raider" where she went back to square one after each game. Not to mention after a huge reaction of killing someone for the first time she then becomes Rambo straight after and goes on a slaughter spree without a single other reaction. Her development was all over the place.

She was whiney, weak and in later game a little arrogant and selfish

Oh and the voice actress compared to the previous ones was not as good

Lara Croft deserved better and while they are decent games as they are, we deserved actual Tomb Raider games, we could have had better survival games if they just stuck with the original Lara Crofts origin about her plane going down. Surviving 2 weeks in the Himalayas...I'd have liked to seen that, who knows what mystical threat she could have faced in the mountains or underground some secret concealed cave.

Tacoboto459d ago

I thought Shadow of the Tomb Raider had better gameplay than Rise, but it annoyed me the most of the trilogy when I stopped to think about the story.

It's like they deliberately decided to make her unlikeable and did nothing to make the character you're playing as likeable or have even one sign of humility.

SoulWarrior461d ago

2013 I thought was a fine entry, but Rise and especially Shadow were painfully mediocre follow ups imo, I really didn't like how selfish and angry her character was in those two.

Terry_B459d ago

No. Please forget the crap completely.

northpaws459d ago

First one was decent, played through it twice.
Second one was okay, played through it once.
Third one was really bad, tried twice a year apart, still can't get through the first two hours, it is just really bad.

thesoftware730459d ago

Honest question, what did you find bad about it? the opening 2 hrs of Shadow were fantastic imo.

The opening was very similar to the first 2, what did you find really bad?

Not looking for an argument, just an honest question.

Starman69459d ago

3rd one just didn't feel like a tomb raider game. Possibly because the development was passed to another development team. Big mistake! Microsoft killed tomb raider making the first game a timed exclusive. Never recovered after that.

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CrimsonWing69840d ago (Edited 840d ago )

They're all solid games, but nothing quite matched the epicness of the first one for me. I think the 3rd one started off strong but once you got to that Peruvian area it took a massive nose dive for me.

lelo2play840d ago (Edited 840d ago )

You got to be kidding!
The first one was great at the time... but this latest trilogy of Tomb Raider games are also great.

LiViNgLeGaCY840d ago

I think he means the first one in the new trilogy.

CrimsonWing69839d ago

I meant the first of the new trilogy.

Furesis839d ago

yeah i remember liking the first one when it came out, so i tried the second one sometime after release and i just could not get into it, i couldn't finish it. So i might try the 3rd now that i got it for free but ehh. But i do remember enjoying the first one, i wonder if i'd feel the same way if i played it today? Better not taint those memories lol

ANIALATOR136839d ago

I was the same for some reason. Never finished the second one. I got like half way through maybe.

ActualWhiteMan839d ago (Edited 839d ago )

The first one of the latest trilogy is a masterpiece

Fishy Fingers840d ago

I'll take a copy of Shadow... Cheers.

Profchaos840d ago

Great games I've played them all on ps4 but it'll be good to finally try shadow on my rtx card.

Double_O_Revan840d ago

Trying to claim them and the store keeps crashing. lol.

gamefreaks365840d ago

EGS has been having issues all day.

RedDevils839d ago

Weird I don't has that issue.

Double_O_Revan839d ago

I finally got it after a while. But it was real bad for a while.

PeeShuter839d ago (Edited 839d ago )

Claim games by going to the website and login using ur credentials. I did the same as i couldnt use epic launcher. Also try reinstalling Epic Launcher I did it and it worked.

Double_O_Revan839d ago

I always go through the website. It was all just down for a while yesterday it seems.

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