Microsoft Will Announce More Xbox One Games Coming To The PC In The Next Few Months

As Kudo Tsunoda told MaximumPCMag when asked about Halo or Tomb Raider coming to the PC:

“You know we can’t have any announcements about that stuff today, but for sure there is going to be a lot more, you know, a lot more announcements coming as we roll towards Gamescom.”

[RAM0N]

I think it will be halo mcc

[VeryNicePerson]

Great move from Microsoft.

Please, I want more cross-play between Xbox and PC ! :D

On a side note, it's too bad that The Coalition didn't bring Gears of War 2 and Gears of War 3 with the Ultimate Edition on Xbox One AND PC. I would love to replay these games in FHD [ONE] or UHD. [PC]

Need some Horde madness.

[Bruno1886]

I agree.It would've been great if GOW2 and 3 came with the ultimate edition.

[GameNameFame]

So less exclusives for Xbox and less reason to own one...

and Lol at "MS exclusive". Does that make some fans sleep better at night?

Everyone has PC. So you dont need Xbox to play the games. That all it matters.

[Nirvana31591]

Not so great move once you realize they're taking away the very few reasons to own an Xbox

[Multiplatguy]

Cross play would only work in Halo if it's for co op or if the controller is required on PC in cross play playlists.

Using a mouse would be a huge advantage, especially in Halo when precision weapons and accuracy is important.

[Gority]

@timotim

While I agree with the first part of what you said, using that definition of exclusive leaves forza 5 and sunset overdrive as the only exclusive titles for x1.

[truewittness]

Sony announced two games for PC also SF5 and Shemmue 3

[_-EDMIX-_]

I got to agree with the rest. I don't think this is a good idea. The are doing a great job with titles and now they are just bringing them to PC? Soooo does XONE no longer matter to them?

What reason do I have to own an XONE in the future? When I see Gears, KI on PC and then they are saying they have MORE coming, that is tell me...hold off on getting an XONE, not just for the year, soon it will be hold off for good.

The reality is, I might get X1 based on maybe 2 games, when one of those games comes to PC, it will make me factor if getting XONE for 1 game is even worth it. I truly think this is a bad idea as MS owns the whole damn market on PC gaming in terms of OS, no one is getting an OS based on Gears or KI etc. We just don't have that many real choices in terms of OS's with game support for MS to even feel threatened to do this.

I'm getting Win 10 on extra HDD for my PC anyway, they don't need to convince me.....I'm a PC gamer, its not like I have a choice lol.

I'm just going to plug in a 360 controller in my PC and call it a day. I'd rather they focus on giving me more reasons to own an XONE, then to not own one.

[mattdillahunty]

i'd buy Halo: MCC on PC day 1, and it would be one less reason for me to own an Xbox One.

[ABizzel1]

@timotim

Yes, but if it's a desktop (not AIO) then everybody can stick a 750 Ti and instantly turn that PC into a XBO.

If it's a newer laptop of AIO than they can still run the games just at lowest settings in AMD's APU and Intel's onboard graphics have come a long way (still not there yet).

But honestly I said this a while back, and it's exactly what MS needs to be doing IMO to carve a niche in gaming.

The Xbox needs to stop trying to be a console and be the box that houses the recommended specs for PC gaming going forward. That way they can sell software and hardware to an even larger audience of gamers.

GOing head to head with Sony is a losing battle, because MS is spending a lot more money on trying to market the XBox brand and promote it only to come out losing in sales to the PS brand anyway.

So going head to head anc carve out your own niche. The 50m - 60m XBL subscribers will be there regardless (eventually), but you also now have those PC gamers who are fine with low end hardware forgoing their basic rigs, and buying a Xbox if it's aiming to be more PC like. Simply make the Xbox games at a locked resolution and framerate, and in the options under advanced options allow those with the PC experience to chance the settings.

Also use off the shelf products and allow those PC gamers to upgrade their boxes at the cost of voiding their warranty.

XB4

i7 3770T (still powerful, and cheap by 2020)
GTX 980 Ti equivalent (mid range by 2020, $200=)
8GB DDR4
8GB HBM / GDDR6 (whichever stays)
NVIDIA Link tech (change the face of PC)

$399 - $499

It would be a 7+ TFLOPS, which would be weaker than the PS5 IMO, but so they'd really have to rely on NVIDIA Link to make up bandwidth performance a non issue, but their CPU performance will be better is Sony goes with off the shelf FX 8300 CPUs (a good CPU, but not wise without some modding).

That way they can stay on a 5 - 6 year cycle, and with upgrades they can keep the box going even longer.

Give up the console war you're losing and make a PConsole that really has an audience to sale to.

[SonyWarrior]

I'd love to see the Forza series come over to PC. that's the only game im interested in thats exclusive to xbox.

[avengers1978]

The more games MS let go from being exclusive only to XB1, the less reasons for people to buy a XB1 console.

[freshslicepizza]

what are people worried about if xbox one games go to the pc? i think it's great. you think fallout 4 is going to sell poorly because there is a pc version? lots of gamers like console gaming but not pc gaming and vice-versa, nothing wrong with that. makes you wonder why some ps4 fans don't want games like bloodborne to come to the pc then.

[STK026]

To all those saying Xbox is dead because of this, Microsoft doesn't care about the Xbox if it means bringing even more people to Windows 10.

A few things to remember, for every Xbox One sold, MS is losing cash, they then make some back thanks to the royalties from games sold on their system. The same applies for Sony.

On the other hand, Windows 10 makes money, and brings in additional revenues thanks to its app marketplace and Bing, which is the default search engine in Windows 10, something most users won't bother to change. Windows is also the gateway to MS's other very profitable software, Office.

Windows 10 is at the center of Microsoft's strategy, the Xbox brand is expendable. For MS, the Xbox is great as it allowed them to use it as a trojan horse to enter the living room. But as time goes on, more and more small form PCs are making their way to the living room (like Intel's flawed Compute stick) as well as smartphones and tablets now having the ability to stream content to the TV wirelessly. In other words, soon enough MS will have new ways to capture the living room, and its need for a dedicated console will begin to fade away. They are betting everything on Windows 10.

[jmd749]

Come on Sunset Overdrive. :)

[starchild]

@ABizzel1

I don't know why you received so many disagrees. Before this current generation I had similar ideas and I thought Microsoft would go in that direction. They ended up announcing a fairly traditional console instead, but with things like DirectX 12 they do seem to be taking steps to unify the PC and Xbox sides of their business.

The Xbox should just be a standardized PC --with a streamlined interface and a compact form-- to appeal to the console demographic. It could play the same exact PC games as any gaming PC and would provide a baseline for developers to target. People with custom-built gaming PCs would still be able to tweak settings and enjoy greater graphical fidelity if they had the hardware for it.

I think this would be the best way for Microsoft to leverage their position in the console and PC space.

[UltimateMaster]

Wow, no point in owning a Xbox Console anymore, might as well just have a PS4 and PC.

[IanTH]

@ starchild

No they can't do an open PC with a streamlined interface, they make all their money from taking a cut from sales. And they sell the console at a loss and make up the difference through these software sales. If they make a straight up Windows PC, people will immediately install Steam on it (one way or another) and Microsoft will make no money.

What they are doing with their current store strategy, it sounds like anyway, is to make is so if you buy a game on XBOX, you can play it on PC and vice-versa. This gives people incentive to buy through their store - where MS can take their cut. Otherwise, Valve will continue to...Steam...roll (harhar) over any other Windows based game store and MS is just selling you a cheap gaming PC where there is basically no margin for profit.

[RedDevils]

Great time to own both PC and PS4 combo lol

[avengers1978]

A PC/Console you mean the steam box.... So they should just try and buy Alienware and build on what they are doing.

[Magicite]

Thank You very much MS! Finally a great decision.

[stragomccloud]

I'd be really happy about that. I don't want it enough to get an Xbone for that; however, I do want it enough to buy it if available for PC.

[Spotie]

I guess it could be good from the standpoint of selling software, but when others will have the same thinking as you, and that this will be the case for many of their otherwise exclusive games, it can't be good for hardware sales.

People will try to say the same thing happens on PS4, but their first party titles pretty much never make it to PC, which is a considerable distinction.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Spotie- "People will try to say the same thing happens on PS4, but their first party titles pretty much never make it to PC, which is a considerable distinction"

Agreed. Its why when Sony publishes, its only on their platforms. Thus, you can't just wait for it to appear else where, you must buy a PS to actually play it.

By MS doing this, they are very much trading software sales for hardware. Clearly someone out their might want a XONE for KI or Gears Ultimate (though not likely gears but you get it)

By them making this a habit and even saying they have MORE to come, they are also stating they have LESS reasons to own an XONE. I saw myself getting an XONE, at least by next year, but I'm at the point where I'm legit thinking of just waiting to see what they say for about a year cause who knows, maybe Halo MCC or some of their other titles come over to PC.

[stragomccloud]

That's good though. The more people who game on PC the better, I say.

[memots]

im on the same boat.

I have a very good gaming pc and a ps4.
One thing that has stopped me of buying a Xbo is the fact that you need to pay for Xboxlive.

What has been making me want a Xbo is Halo of course as i am a Halo 2 and 3 veteran and Forza.

But i am also a huge racing fan. So my ultimate dream would be Forza 6 coming to PC. That would be huge!! Like megaton.
But i would settle for Forza 5 on pc pls MS make it happen and you get my money and i want all DLC !!! :)

[mezati99]

That would be fucking amazing

[fermcr]

I great move by Microsoft would be cross-buy. Purchase a copy of a game, and get the PC and X1 version... but I don't think Microsoft would go for that :)

[mcstorm]

Looking at how Microsoft are starting to evolve I don't think it will be long until they start to do a cross buy platform from the store as its already in place for windows 8 and phone 8. Plus I see this as being the start for the Xbox becoming a service rather than just a console. So everything gaming on windows is part of the Xbox and pc. I still think the Xbox will get exclusive games but it will be aimed at being the main media hub for home. Seeing things like the new pro controller and what is being shown off by Microsoft this could be massive for them in terms of how people start to look at Microsoft as a company and also the windows o's in general as all there services will be on all platforms as well as there own something both Nintendo and Sony are not doing at the moment.

[JamesBroski]

Aw man... if they could release this to PC... wow...

[Erik7357]

I hope to god that's true

[tuglu_pati]

MS killing Xbox console with all this ports. The more they port, the more I see no reason to buy an XBO. By the end of this gen I think i'll be building a gaming PC.

[star_lancer]

How are they killing Xbox? Even if some games come to PC, there are many that won't. Why would anyone build a gaming PC to play SOME Xbox games when, for the same price or less, you can buy an actual Xbox One and play ALL of them?

[tuglu_pati]

We'll have to wait and see but exclusive games is what make you choose between one console or the other and if you can get most of the exclusives of one of them consoles on PC then the other console will be the best option.

[starchild]

Only for those of us who already own high end gaming PCs. You have to realize that that isn't the case for the vast majority of the console demographic.

[FastRedPonyCar]

The guy on the PC gaming segment of E3 all but confirmed it. He basically said he can't talk about it right now.

Also, Phil Spencer may have slipped and let the cat out of the bag on Giant Bomb's Day 1 stream when he said the "Gears of war Collection" was coming to PC.

He tried to quickly back track and say the remastered edition but it makes me think that they are remastering all of them for Xbone and PC.

Now all I need is Forza on PC and I'll be set.

[Fin_The_Human]

People saying that MS is a fool for doing this don't realise that MS still wins.

Supporting W10 benefits MS more than supporting the XB.

[DevilOgreFish]

I'm more interested in Microsoft making partnerships to make specific games for PC, and from there they could bring it to Xbox one if they like to. It sounds much better than them having to take away from XB1's lineup.

[styferion]

I want new age of empire.
on that note, RTS kinda died this generation isn't it?

[fermcr]

Try out Grey Goo.
http://store.steampowered.c...

Made by ex-Westwood Studios employees.

[mafia_pc]

i think he's talking about new press play game, twisted pixel etc... all of these coming to PC for sure.

[Kayant]

Did you watch the interview. He didn't mention press play at all - https://youtu.be/Hyx5Lz7l3v...

The question was -

Q. So maybe we can see halo and tomb raider and things like that on PC?

A. “You know we can’t have any announcements about that stuff today, but for sure there is going to be a lot more, you know, a lot more announcements coming as we roll towards Gamescom.”

[Khajiit86]

It should be obvious that Tomb Raider will come to PC and maybe elsewhere. I wonder what the other stuff is. Halo 5 coss play would be huge.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Sunset Overdrive and Halo MCC.

[MegaRay]

Dunno about Halo, but i really wish Sunset Overdrive comes to PC.

[Perjoss]

MCC would be great as the only Halo games on PC are 1 & 2, I would love to have 3, 4 and ODST on PC as well as the remastered 1 & 2.

[Erik7357]

I mean come onn...they have no more use for Halo MCC, halo 5 is where the focus is gonna be at for xbox. Might as well launch halo MCC on there cause a lot of pc gamers had halo 1 and 2 on there pc when it did come out for pc.

IF they are releasing gears might as well do Halo.

[KakashiHotake]

I would love for both of these to come over.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I could see both games coming to Windows and they would be great additions for PC gamers.

[Kayant]

I will go with Gears 4 or other another Gears remaster(Unlikely I feel unless they are also doing one for XB1) based on Rod's comment and reaction when Gears ultimate was announced for PC and Sunset Overdrive because of the leak from earlier.

Halo I didn't kinda feel that will say on XB1

[WheatBread]

Give me Forza and I'm set.

[Khajiit86]

Just Forza Horizon, all i need.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Pretty much. There really isn't an open world racer that compares to Forza Horizon on PC. As for the Motorsport series, there are much better racing sims.

[zsquaresoff]

If all the xone games are going to come to pc, then what is the whole point of buying Xone in the 1st place?

Whatever happened to the phrase "only on xbox one"?

[Eterna1Ice]

I hope this crap with Windows 10 promotion ends soon, Microsoft is just making X1 lose its value for nothing.

[ElVeneno]

How is the x1 losing value? X1 consumers still get the same titles. This type of mentality screams "I'm a child and I don't want anyone else to have the same toy I have".

[uth11]

I agree, MS is walking on shakey ground here

[TwoForce]

Well, i argee that. Xbox One games coming to PC is a great ideas, but at the same time, what reason to buy Xbox one anyway ? Microsoft will lose mascot.

[Dudebro90]

Some people dont care about PC gaming but still want to play Microsoft's games. That's what the Xbox one is for.

[Bruno1886]

Some people also don't want to understand pc hardware.They just want to sit on a couch and start playing.Consoles are meant to tend to those type of gamers.

[Devy]

I for one, do not care for the xbone, this to me is just more choices in games and a possible chance to an even larger community (xbone/pc crossplay). No console has been able to get my interest since the Dreamcast so right now, having those game come to PC with (even if slim) a change of crossplay, this is great news. On the other end, a LOT of people do not care or consider the PC as a gaming platform because of (insert reason here) so to them, the X1 is still a viable option.

[ABizzel1]

@Dudebro90 & Bruno1886

That's because some people are too ignorant to realize everything you can do on a console you can do on a PC, and like a console can hook up to your HDTV and hook a controller up to it effortlessly.

A console sells on exclusives and convenience, if Xbox loses exclusive then it loses a good portion of it's audience to PC and PlayStation.

For the core gamer the Xbox brand would be almost pointless, for the casual and casual core gamer, they could still be sold, but that would mean the Xbox has a real chance of losing +20m gamers instantly, which is why if they're going to do this they have to commit fully and make Xbox a PConsole.

[star_lancer]

@Abizzel

It's not as "effortless" as you make it sound to hook up a PC to an HDTV and get a game up and running as smoothly as on a console.

Face it, there are console gamers and PC gamers. Playstation fans like to make it seem like there's a great deal of crossover, but it's simply not true.

[ABizzel1]

@star_lance

Yes the H#!! it is. Plug the HDMI in the GPU HDMI slot, and it's literally running just like a console. The PC I'm writing this on now is my gaming PC and it's hooked up to my 50" TV right now.

Stop lying to these people just because you all want to be bias, and fear change. PC gaming is not some daunting task. If you have any technical skill you can buy the parts and build a PC.

It took me less than an hour to build my first PC, and the hardest part is simply getting the cables and wires right (which consist of color coding wires, and trying to tie cables down, and as easy as it sounds). The longest part was installing Windows and all the updates.

If you have no technical skill you can buy a PC from a local computer store (check Microcenter if you have one close by), and buy a 750 Ti and plug it into that desktop and buy up and running with a PC that rivals an XBO hands down and possibly a PS4. You'll have a gaming PC up and runningin less than 5 minutes, 10 if you have to install drivers from NVIDIA (which usually come with the driver disk, and as easy as getting a Firmware update on your console).

All gamers, there is NOTHING difficult of different about hooking your PC up to your TV, or hooking your console controller up to your PC. It all works naturally as you'd expect. DOn't let bias or the ignorance of these n4g trolls tell you otherwise.

I have nothing to hide so here's my gaming room as proof, and a proud Omni gamer.

http://s2.postimg.org/eeudq...

As you can see I have steam up, as well as n4g and this exact message. The blue light with the bunny on in the bottom left corner is my gaming PC. Rosewill Blackhawk case, i7 4770k, SLI GTX 760's, 16GB RAM, 2 500GB SSD's for dual OS, 1TB HDD for MacOS, 3TB HDD for PC.

The stack of games on the left are PS4 game.

The stack of games on the right are XBO games.

That's a 2DS on top of the XBO games.

My Wii U is in the other room.

Below the games is my PS4,

And below that is my XBO.

To the right of the XBO games are two DS, and original and a lite.

Stop listening to these lying fanboys. Anyone can have a gaming PC if they want it, and at the same price as a console. These Xbox fanboys are the saddest excuse for gamers I've EVER seen, and by far the most ignorant, which is ironic considering the company they love so much has their roots and foundation all based on PC>

[star_lancer]

The only lying trolls are the ones like you who want people to believe MS will lose 20+ million sales because some games MIGHT eventually come to PC.

Besides, according to your logic, it will all balance out. After all, Sony will lose 20+ million sales due to FF7, Shenmue 3 & Street Fighter 5 coming to PC. I mean, who's going to buy a PS4 when they can so easily build a PC like you did?

"if Xbox loses exclusive then it loses a good portion of it's audience to PC and PlayStation."

How will it lose gamers to Playstation? If Gears comes to PC, how would that make someone buy a Playstation? They still can't play it unless they also get a PC, and they could just as easily (or even more so) buy an Xbox One instead of a PC to play it. You're just assuming that nearly all gamers would rather play a game on PC.

There are numerous Xbox games that will NEVER come to PC, and that, combined with the conveniences that consoles offer, will insure that NO sales are lost, despite how hard trolls like you try to push the issue. Why get a PC for half of Xbox One's games, when an actual Xbox One will play all of them?

[ABizzel1]

The ignorance is real, and great job of spinning this from my original comment about PC gaming, to fans moving over, but I'll educate you once again.

The discussion was regarding more Xbox games coming to PC. If that happens there are less and less reason to buy an XBO with each game that's the sole response that shouldn't need explaining, but you ignorant fanboys obviously need more than that.

If someone has a PS4 / Wii U / PC and wants a XBO, but sees they games on there are playable or coming to PC. Then that PC gamer has no reason to buy an XBO, and that PS4 / Wii U gamer could buy or build a PC instead of buying an XBO, which is a loss of a potential sale. It doesn't get any simpler than that, and if you posted the rest of my post in those comments you would have also added the parts where I said it would help software sales, but it would potentially hurt hardware sales which is where that 20m number came from, but I'll get to that later, don't want to hurt your small intellect by bouncing around too much.

The difference between PS/PC exclusives is that none of Sony's first party games are coming to PC. All those games you listed are from 3rd parties, but Uncahrted, Killzone, LBP, Horizon, Persona, God of War, Gran Turismo, and tons of more exclusives are first party and will be on PlayStation as a selling point.

Meanwhile Forza has already been demoed on PC 2x now making it likely to jump on board, Remedy games have been PC and Xbox making Quantum Break likely, Tomb Raider was PC last game, Gears Ultimate is confirmed for PC, so these are MS 1st party, 2nd party, and 3rd party exclusives going over.

Why Xbox gamers will move over to PlayStation, if this happens, is because the PS4 would still provide the convenience that they look for in a console, but also exclusives, as well as 3rd party games that don't make it to PC, thus making PS the go to console for console gamers. DRM and a $100 more expensive box, drove 360 gamers over to PS4, and you can't comprehend that having their exclusives jump ship left and right won't make potential buyers hold off getting an XBO all together and just going with a PS4 or PC.

Finally let's address the 20m lost fans, as in a POTENTIAL 20m less XBO compared to 360, if their exclusives go to PC.

[ABizzel1]

First some facts.

XBO isn't having a jolly good time in sales like fanboys and MS analyst want you to believe. Year over year (YoY) the XBO's 2014 sales matched the PS3's first year on the market, that's after XBO dropped SKU's, had a price cut, had promotions for up to $150 off, gave away free games with the purchase of an XBO, and bundled in games for the holiday while keeping the price cut all at or around the same time.

The deals happened because prior to that the XBO YoY sales were worse than all 3 last-gen consoles first year, and there were even months where the Wii U (a console sales failure) was selling more than the XBO globally. So MS made all those cuts, promotions, were to buff YoY sales which they never mention now (but always did with 360). And why does YoY sales matter, because it shows growth or decline within a companies sales and finances.

Here we are in 2015 with the price cut still on, bundles still out there, promotions still going on (trade in 360 for $175 off not to long ago), and YoY sales for the XBO are below the PS3's and just over the 360's (which wasn't selling well until it's 3rd / 4th year) during their same time period.

The point is even after all that they're still a distant 2nd in sales, and the PS4 is growing it's lead each passing week in EVERY territory. SO with the announce that many XBO exclusives are no longer exclusive and coming to PC added to that, what's going to happen who in their right mind is going to say there's a strong reason to buy an XBO. Fanboys such as yourself.

You can't cut sales of a product that's already been sold, but bad announcement after bad announcement will ruin any further sales, and people are going to jump ship and move to something else.

This is still the beginning of this generation, and their exclusives are potentially no longer "exclusives", which brings us back to the fact that if this happens then there are less and less reasons to own an XBO.

I hope I cleared that up for your simple mind to comprehend.

Now could you please get back to the topic of how it's not "effortless" to hook a PC up to a TV and game, because I must be a technological genius to have figured it out all on my own. And while you're at it do me a favor and tell me how someone who has EVERY current gen console and a PC, can be a fanboy. I would love to see just how ignorant a fanboy can get.

[star_lancer]

Owning all consoles doesn't disqualify you from being a fanboy. You clearly are. Ignorant biased comments like yours are what make you a fanboy.

"The discussion was regarding more Xbox games coming to PC. If that happens there are less and less reason to buy an XBO with each game"

Again, you're just assuming that the majority of people would rather game on a PC than on a console. Wishful thinking doesn't qualify as an informed comment. People who are looking to play most (or all) console games (between Xbox One and PS4) have three choices:

1) Xbox One & PS4. Cost - $750. This will allow a gamer to play 100% of the games for both consoles on day 1 of release.

2) PS4 & PC. Cost - around $750. This will allow a gamer to play 100% of PS4 games and some Xbox One games later on, but not necessarily on day 1.

3) Xbox One & PC - Cost - around $750. This will allow a gamer to play 100% of Xbox One games and some PS4 games later on, but not necessarily on day 1.

For your comments to make any sense, you'd have to come up with some good reasons why millions of potential customers would choose to be able to play some games for $750 instead of being able to play them all for the same price. Even if HALF of Xbox One games come to PC, it still would make no sense at all. It's the same reason millions of people spend $10 on a movie ticket when everyone knows they can rent it a few months later for $1 at Redbox. The major impact of a game is upon release, not months (or years) later upon PC re-release.

Sorry, but your ignorance simply comes off as serious damage control. Informed, unbiased gamers (i.e. not you) will see with their own eyes that Xbox One simply offers more impactful game experiences this year than PS4 does. Halo 5, Forza 6, Tomb Raider, Star Wars, Black Ops 3, Fallout 4 - The Xbox One is the ONLY platform that can play ALL of those games, and those are system selling games. You're delusional if you think 20+ million people are going to pass up a chance to play all of those games NOW because a few of them MIGHT come to PC somewhere down the road.

The only way I can see PC games having an impact on Xbox One sales is if the game released day and date on both, and even then there's enough AAA games only on Xbox One that the impact would be minimal at best.

[ABizzel1]

That proves it you really are ignorant.

Owning all console disqualifies me from being bias, and having a one-sided opinion on these boxes, which is something that ignorant fanboys like yourself can't seem to, and why none of you would ever do what I did.

"The discussion was regarding more Xbox games coming to PC. If that happens there are less and less reason to buy an XBO with each game"

That was the topic of the article, however, your ignorant self commented on my point stating that hooking your PC up to your TV was effortless, and after correcting your ignorant comment with proof and facts, instead of moving on you decided to take your ignorance to a new level and then bring up the prior issue.

"Again, you're just assuming that the majority of people would rather game on a PC than on a console."

Again you show your degree in stupid. When is 20m out of 80m "the majoriyt of gamers, and I said lose up to 20m games, and based off sales now they're already going to lose 10m gamers when the XBO sales peak and new consoles launch around 2020.

And I never said the majority of gamers want to game on PC, your ignorance told you that. I said if Xbox exclusives come to PC (and there's a chance a good pool of them can and will) then PS, Nintendo, and PC gamers have a reason not to buy an XBO since the games are on PC, and going even further 360 gamers have more of a reason to upgrade to a PS4 or PC instead of an XBO.

That's why they could lose sales from this.

PS4 and XBO share the majority of games easily 90% of the same library when it comes to 3rd parties, and you're leaving out the fact that there are a lot of games that are PC exclusive as well, so your point is mute.

"For your comments to make any sense, you'd have to come up with some good reasons why millions of potential customers would choose to be able to play some games for $750 instead of being able to play them all for the same price."

Because every gamer doesn't want every Xbox exclusive, and for those who see the few games they want on PC, there's a valid reason not to buy the XBO especially if they already gave a decent gaming PC like several of the comments above posted.

Your movie analogy is weak as well, because the games will run significantly better on a PC built at the same cost as a XBO. So in this case it's get the game Day 1 1080p @ 30fps, or with 6 months to a year and get it any resolution you want at well over 60fps, with the potential of a modding community.

"Informed, unbiased gamers (i.e. not you) will see with their own eyes that Xbox One simply offers more impactful game experiences this year than PS4 does."

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand once again, and goes to show just how much of an ignorant fanboy you are once again, and 3 of the games yo listed are on PS4, 2 with exclusive content, with TR being timed exclusive, and Forza having a chance of being one of these XB to PC games, kudos to you.

You are are worthy of an award I haven't given out in a long time, and the honor of earning this award is for the fact that you believe that if Xbox started sharing it's exclusives across the board with PC that sales are going to not be affected.

Congrats you have earned "A whole new level of stupid" award.

If it was really that serious I would continue this through PM, but I'm not even going to waste my time trying to dumb down this conversation any more than I've had to.

[someOnecalled]

You notice abizzel1 only says this when it comes to Xbox but when it comes to PS and a multiplatform pc is the worst thing since nazis. This is PS fanboys in their true form. One of the ringleaders. And most likely ms is going to do like ea, ubisoft and others but realise only in their store.

News flash a lot of pc gamers still don't see a reason to buy a ps4 either. Bloodborne that's it the next game is at the end of 2016 hopefully. The end of next year is when these console are looking attractive. Ffvii and shumue is MP and how long will that take. People keep taking about they won but still waiting. Y'all been waiting since launch got thrown two bones and the y'all on top of the world it annoying. Is this what happen when you starve. A big Mac seem like a feast

[star_lancer]

Deciding not to PM me is the smartest thing you've said. You've spouted enough ignorance and stupidity already on the main thread - at least my inbox is still fanboy free.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I would ask the same thing for the PS4 games since many of them are on PC. Shenmue, FF7, No Man's Sky, Street Fighter V will all be on PC.

But to more directly answer your question, simply put, not every gamer is interested in building a gaming rig, tinkering with components or settings, or they may be turned off by the cost of a comparably performing PC.

@q8kik no the difference is Microsoft owns 95+ % of the PC market share which roughly equates to over 1 billion Windows users, most of which whom will get Windows 10 for free. Windows 10 will be on Xbox, PCs, and mobile.

Sony doesn't have even a fraction of that kind of market share or pull and does not own an OS, so it only has to cater to one userbase which is Playstation gamers.

That is not a knock on Sony, I'm just saying it's really apples and oranges.

[q8kik]

The difference is that Sony don't make PC ports for their First party titles and or Sony owned IP's.

[hugogs]

You mentioned ps4 titles that are avaible on PC, what about the ones that aren't? Games like Uncharted, God Of War or GT will never be on PC.

There is a big difference,Im sure this will increase the sales figures overall, but people who use PC will have even less of a reason to buy a Xbox One.

[TheTwelve]

The transition begins

[RadioActiveTwinky]

What 343 said. I personally would love to have those games on my PC with cross platform play. Mainly because I would get rid of my Xbox and play them on higher settings. Also because of cross platform play I could still play those games with my buddies who don't like spending time on PC's.

In my opinion it's a win win because consoles are very mainstream and I wouldn't mind upgrading to windows 10 now after spending many months with it on the insider program. I haven't gone back to windows 7 since I first installed Windows 10 insider program. So much better then windows 8/8.1.

[MRMagoo123]

They would have to do a lot of stuffing around to make games like halo and gears cross play because of the fact K/M would be too much of an advantage against controllers.

Have you seen how easy it is to win using a conversion port for the xbone online and getting to use a k/m ? I have seen people get 40/1 kdrs on COD without even trying against controller users. Its like playing against blindfolded people.

[JamesBroski]

I think Microsoft, with Windows 10, have something on their mind about PC gaming. I think they're focusing on a game service on Windows 10 kinda like Steam which would be connected with Xbox One. They could have their own store, their own games and exclusives. That would be one of the reason their giving it for free for W7 and W8 users. Unless they want to charge for a gold account on PC (which I doubt), I'm all in for that.

[UNKLE]

forza6

[DonkeyDoner]

forza
sunset overdrive
amen to that

[richyque]

zsquaresoff, looks like xboxone players got royally fucked in this deal. What games are coming from pc to xboxone?

[Seafort]

I thought PC didn't have any exclusives sooo...none :)

They'll be getting Sheltered, The Long Dark, Elite Dangerous and DayZ via the Xbox Preview program.

Also Wasteland 2 and Divinity Original Sin is going to consoles as well.

[bmwfanatic]

Those games are coming to ps4 as well.

[ElVeneno]

How are X1 players getting royally fucked again? Is PC keeping titles from being released on the X1? Plenty of games made it from PC to X1 actually, The Witcher, World of Tanks, Elite Dangerous just to name a few.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Xbox anywhere.

Doesn't matter if you're on console, mobile, or PC.

This is what they're moving too. If you can't see that you're just blind. Microsoft will merge Xbox and the Windows store or created a dedicated store.

The user plays where they want. Some still will only want to game on a console. Some will only want to game on a PC rig. Some gamers want both.

Giving gamers a choice is where the new Microsoft is headed. Games are bigger than just consoles and by catering to both and creating a unified storefront Microsoft offers a strong alternative to Steam. I might add here, Valve is attempting g to do the opposite and get its games on a console like Steambox.

Also why buy an Xbox One when some games go to PC? Because a lot of gamers still don't want to build a rig and want thinks to work straight out of the box.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Exactly.

Besides exclusives, the only other reason to buy a console is for convenience. If Microsoft merges Xbox and the Windows store, this could be amazing.

[christocolus]

@TXIDarkAvenger and @Riverstar

Exactly. I think it might be a great idea.PC and consoles aren't actually in direct competition with each other also Windows and Xbox are MS platforms. PC and Xbox gamer's benefit from this and the Xbox Division earns more revenue and expands. I see a scenario where some games will be released same day on both platforms but there will also be individual exclusive titles for each platform and even though some Xbox exclusives will come over to Windows it wl may be after 6 - 10 months of Xbox One exclusivity and it will be same on the PC to Xbox side. It's all a win win situation.

[riverstars86]

This describes my feelings on this issue, I actually want all Microsoft games to come to PC. Make the games cross-play and have huge thriving communities for all their games.

The vast majority of console gamers buy consoles. Most console gamers don't own gaming PC's. Consoles have a much cheaper barrier to entry for most consumers. Let's not act like bringing Microsoft games to PC will halt Xbox One sales, that's just not going to happen.

[christocolus]

@343_Guilty_Spark

Bubs up. Well said Bro. Well said.

[ABizzel1]

I find it funny that the embrace is happening now, but when we were saying this is the direction MS should be going a year or two ago the disagree and complaints of trolling were rampant.

The flip-flop is real among fanboys (not saying you're one, but I can't comment directly to all the ones I've blocked).

The bad thing is if they don't commit to this then they'll kill of the XBox brand as sales drop down to the original XBox level 20m - 30m. Software sales will go up, but hardware would be doomed unless they turn Xbox into a PConsole.

[PlayableGamez]

This is the beginning of the end for Xbox. I wonder who is going to keep Playstation in check, because it sure is not going to be Nintendo.

[Hoffmann]

I thought the beginning of the end of the Xbox was their first presentation back in April 2013.

[Dewitt]

How does this even close to make sense, MS is going with a unified culture it has been known for quite a while. MS could buy and sell Sony 50 times over and Satya is fully behind the Xbox brand, so keep preaching your conspiracy theories.

[MRMagoo123]

Whats buying sony got to do with anything lol, you sensitive xbone fanboys are just silly.

The more games that go to pc that are "exclusive" to xbone the less reason someone who doesnt have an xbone needs to buy one. All it will do is limit the amount of xbone console purchasers. If a game came to the xbone that I actually wanted and was also coming to PC I would just get the PC one....you see how that works now?

[kstuffs]

Microsoft is in a no-win situation.

MS no games on PC: They don't care about PC gamers.
MS provide XB1 games to PC: There's no reason to get Xbox
PS4 games on PC: I'll still play on my PS4.

Which path do you think MS should take? Either way, they are getting ridiculed while the Sony & PS4 cruise.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I would bet money at Gamescom we get some kind of RTS announcement from MS for Windows 10 ... possibly a cross platform game with the One. Germany is the right audience for RTS and Spencer has been saying he wanted more RTS / Strategy games for their platform.

[christocolus]

No need to bet on that. Decisive games(MS new Studio) is currently developing an RTS and according to a job listing online it's being developed for Xbox One&Windows 10. I think cross-play will definitely be a plus. we will see more games like these in the future feat cross-play and possibly cross-buy and i think it's cool.

http://www.kitguru.net/gami...

[MRMagoo123]

Well you better hope they add in keyboard and mouse support for the rts games on the xbone , because if its cross play there will be a lot of rage quitters on console when they play against someone using k/m on pc or reporting them for being hackers cos they lost.

I just cant see cross play working for rts if they have competitive modes or fps for that matter. Driving games I think will be fine and fighters.

[q8kik]

Reasons to own an Xbox One are going right down the drain.

[B1uBurneR]

As long as those Xbox/PC Games have achievements that tie into your account I'm down.

[FallenAngel1984]

The main reason Xbox was created was to preserve the PC market. Its just fulfilling its original intention, nothing surprising about that

[Chivas11]

Looks like I made the right choice by going PC/PS4 this gen

[Haru]

HALO 5 on PC

[MasterBaker]

I can see Halo MCC going to PC, but Halo 5? Probably never, it's pretty much the only reason anyone owns an Xbox one and it's going to be a very big console seller this Holiday.

[Tedakin]

The gameplay demo at E3 said Xbone Exclusive.

[audiocafe]

Not gonna lie, I was planning on getting an Xbox One this holiday hopefully during a Black Friday sale but with Killer Instinct (one of the games I was planning on buying on Xbox One when I got it) being announced as coming to PC, and now with this announcement of more Xbox One games coming to PC, I may not pick it up now. I have a PS4, Wii U, Vita, 3DS, and a really good gaming PC. I want to play Crackdown and and Quantum Break when they come out too, but I'm wondering now if I should play the waiting game to see if those games will come to PC. Seems like this gen so few games are truly exclusive - for both Sony and Microsoft, though it seems like more Microsoft console exclusives are appearing on PC than Sony's

[MRMagoo123]

I think crackdown and quantum break will hit pc along with the new gears. Have no idea about halo but the others I think about 90 percent chance.

[--bienio--]

Great:) Cant wait what Microsoft prepare for Gamescom...cross play/cross buy its what make this hole situation intresating..

[ninjahunter]

Eh, as much as people hope its halo, i dont think that halo is as well suited for pc as console, feels like a game of consistency and slow methodical combat, which the pc platform offers very little to improve this.

[Lennoxb63]

Why do people think this will hurt the Xbox One. There are still billions of people who can't afford or build a gaming PC.

[ABizzel1]

You can build a decent gaming PC for $250 - $300 that's capable of playing games these games a low setting.

You can build a gaming PC for $400 - $500 that's a bit more powerful than an XBO and PS4.

If you can't build a PC

You can buy a Desktop PC for $300 - $400, and buy a GTX 750Ti for less than $150, and stick the card in the PCI slot (literally as easy as putting a cartridge in a N64), and have a gaming PC that's on par with XBO pound for pound. And if you have a local PC shop nearby they can even guid you to a better deal desktop and help you save some money and make that PC on par with a PS4.

There is little no excuse anymore, besides bias. If you're a "Omnigamer" / multiplatform gamer and really want to play everything you should have a freaking PC as well.

It can hook up to your HDTV, you can use your 360, DualShock 4, or XBO controller on it, and you can have Steam launch so you're already in game mode. THere are no excuses, besides ignorance and bias.

[Lennoxb63]

"You can build a decent gaming PC for $250 - $300 that's capable of playing games these games a low setting."

I don't want to play games at a low setting.

"You can build a gaming PC for $400 - $500 that's a bit more powerful than an XBO and PS4."

That's a damn lie.

"You can buy a Desktop PC for $300 - $400, and buy a GTX 750Ti for less than $150, and stick the card in the PCI slot (literally as easy as putting a cartridge in a N64), and have a gaming PC that's on par with XBO pound for pound."

This is also a lie. My PC is 350 and chugs when playing facebook games a lot. So I doubt its going to do well playing the Witcher 3 or Arkham Knight. Also, what average consumer know what a PCI slot is? Or that they can even buy a graphics card. The average consumer doesn't even know these things exist.

[nitus10]

It's no big deal for me to build a PC however those prices are a bit on the low side. If you purchase for a low to medium end PC you would be hard pressed to get one for much under $400 or to you does the keyboard, mouse, monitor and Microsoft Operating system cost nothing.

As for a high end PC, well open your wallet and I will tell you when to close it.

BTW. I am well aware that a keyboard and mouse are relatively cheap but any decent gamer would be willing to shell out well over $100 for those peripherals.

You can also get cheap monitors for under $100 but a decent sized high resolution performance monitor will set you back hundreds of dollars more. Of course to save money you could connect via HTMI (assuming your mother board has one) to your HDTV and then have bun fights with other members of your household, unless you are living on your own. :-)

[bluebenjamin]

Yeah but consoles are easier to deal with you put the game in and it works, you don't have to worry about tinkering or altering files are any other things that bug PC gaming.I love PC gaming I think it's superior but to the average population especially people who are not into figuring things out and they just want to play the game, PC gaming may not be for everyone
Just saying.

[Gamer777]

I think if all MS first party games are brought to PC it would devalue the XB1. I do remember Aaron Greenberg stating that not all exclusives would come to PC. I don't want to see games like Scalebound, Halo 5, Gears of War 4 (Gears 4?) and Quantum Break coming to PC. Those games were being marketed as reason to own an XB1 and should be exclusive for as long as possible. However I can see a benefit to releasing some of these exclusives on PC at later dates to build the ip.

[bmwfanatic]

So glad sony doesn't do this bloodborne will never be on pc uncharted and god of war will never be on pc.

[Str8Chaos74]

They probably should so they could actually make a profit for once. Software, not hardware is where the money is.

[bmwfanatic]

Actually they are having their most profitable year due to PlayStation selling so well. But I guess you internet radom know better than a billion dollar company maybe they should hire you. Sony will NEVER put their games on pc and im glad for that.

[kstuffs]

And gamers don't yell murder for that. Weird that MS gets called out more for not providing PC gamers. Is that because they own the PC platform? What's stopping Sony from bringing Bloodborne and Unhcarted to PC?

[RiseofScorpio]

FFs is it really that hard to have your own version of SOE/Daybreak to make games for the Computer so you can support Windows withour having to ruin the X1s exclusive lineup?

[Tedakin]

I don't mind as long as there's crossbuy and crossplay like with KI. Gears of War UE should have this. Halo 5 however very clearly said Xbone Exclusive at E3 tho.

The thing with KI coming to PC too is it will be like 2 years later than Xbox. Anyone who was going to buy an X1 for KI obviously did so by now. Time to let the game grow. That's not a detriment to the console. It's for the benefit of the game, especially with SF5 coming next year. Either way it's still an MS franchise only on MS platforms.

[ATi_Elite]

Gimme all Halos all Gears all Fables all Forzas and Red Dead Redemption.

That's a awesome start

[truewittness]

Lol. Then go buy an X1 and stop wishing for it lol

[tristan552]

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[VJGenova]

Gears 4 would be amazing. Really looking forward to the Gears remaster. Definitely a day 1 purchase for me.

I'm alsoblooking forward to Killer Instinct. Keep 'em coming MS!

[oasdada]

Gears 2 and 3 on pc wud be awesome.. and halo3,even though ive played the hell out of tgat game on 360! Btw can some one confirm , gears ultimate edition has all 3 parts or not?

[s45gr32]

So basically, Xbox may end up as a gaming roku next-generation. Microsoft is just picking up from Onlive,meaning able to play xbox games on any Windows 10 device with cross platform play. Time to beat xbots on fable legends or sea of thieves lol.

[Azzanation]

MS is expanding there gaming division, making it bigger and more accessible and people on here think its a bad move..

PC gaming and Console gaming is different. Even if there are people with powerful PCs, both PC and X1 offer different experiences. A console gamer would never touch a PC, I have mates that just dislike it and will easily choose an inferior looking game over it.

Xbox caters for the casual market while PC caters for the hardcore. Smart move by MS and this will generate more income for there gaming division which will only lead to bigger and better things.

[Ark_]

Ppl often forget that their current consoles (PS4 and X1) are mere PCs with a proprietery OS and fixed hardware.

[Elit3Nick]

I'm just curious, at what point does he say that more xbox exclusives will come to PC? His answer was “You know we can’t have any announcements about that stuff today, but for sure there is going to be a lot more, you know, a lot more announcements coming as we roll towards Gamescom.” but that doesn't point to xbox games directly, only that PC will get more games.

[Plagasx]

Please, for the love of God, bring the entire Gears franchise to PC!

[BassMan125]

Give me Sunset Overdrive and Gears 2, 3 and judgement, and I'll convert to Windows 10.

[ismail_ng]

good...

[urwifeminder]

Nice hopefully with xblive achievements optional I will double dip on lots of games.

[CEOSteveBallmer]

Logically Why would I buy an Xbone then if I have a decent if not great gaming PC?? They said Xbone titles will also go to PC. Nice move MS not that I wouldn't care anyways. It's MS loss, All people here says the same thing. "LESS REASON TO OWN AN XBONE"

[strickers]

This could be signalling the slow end to Xbox console. I'll happily play all the Xbox exclusives I'd consider for XB1 on my PC. They'll look better and I can use DS4 pad. No need to buy the console or subscribe to Live.

[Destiny1080]

free live, free win 10, free fable and now killer instinct and gears of war remaster

I want some halo to go along with this

[mokkeyrg2]

not every exclusive is going to pc so whats the fuss....

[bluebenjamin]

Microsoft just sold you all in Xbox and you didn't even realize it.There building the Xbox community, I don't think you guys get how big this really is.Windows phone PC and Windows X1 are all Microsoft. Microsoft just got bigger. DX12 can't wait to see the intergration. I wonder what sony will do next because the game is changing

[Revengeance]

With that said I'm finding less reasons to get an Xbone and more reasons to build a PC.

Looks like the PS4 and Wii U are the consoles to own this gen since their exclusives don't ever get ported to PC.

[battlegrog]

What i dont get is why MS does not create the Xbox dashboard on pc if its the same program on windows and xbox. Imagine how much sales they would gain from windows digital xbox sales.Unless that is the plan.

Maybe you download the game in the windows store and it runs through the xbox app

[Drasill]

If something isn't a system seller there really isn't a point in keeping it exclusive in my opinion. Especially when it is an older game. I cannot imagine anyone out there today is going to be buying an Xbox One for Killer Instinct or Fable Legends. If a game isn't going to sell your system you might as well bring it to PC as well which isn't even directly competing with consoles. I think Halo: MCC will be the next game announced for PC since anyone who is interested in the Xbox One version probably has it by now since it is almost a year old. I expect the same thing for Halo 5 and Gears 4. They will probably come out first to Xbox One, and then once they've sold the majority of the copies they are going to sell there they will come to PC.

It would also be cool if they made all of these games cross-play and cross-buy. The concerns people might have with cross-play is that PC players would have an advantage, but this is easily solved I think. If a PC player wants to play with mouse and keyboard then they are only matched with other PC players who are using mouse and keyboard. However, if they use a controller then they are matched with Xbox One players and other PC players using a controller.

[scark92]

Kinect for PC Confirm?

[Drasill]

It is already available on PC.

[scark92]

Is it really? I had no idea haha Interesting!

[battlegrog]

It doesn't make sense why people at any point woild think this is a bad idea.peoele are not in the game market to sell hardware.tue money is made off game sales.

All ms is planning is to have xbox one be the turkey machine to tye xbox brand that can also be on pc. Just like how steam is doing steam machines.

More game sales the more money ms makes. They don't care about the console sale they want people buying from there unified store .which is why windows 10 will be free first to get everyone on it.then that will be where you get the games and anything in the store.i assume since xbox one is getting a much simpler dashboard . you prob will get the games from the store and prob work in the xbox app on wimdows. It's absolutely brilliant. Which is clearly why they made tye hardcover xbox controller.I guess it's a slow transition and they want to wait for w10 to launch first and reveal a bunch at gamescon