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Changes Will Happen in the Final Fantasy VII Remake, and That’s a Good Thing

It is fantastic that Square Enix will alter one of the best games of all time.

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Kingthrash3601038d ago

Just don't touch the battle system..lord.

3-4-51038d ago

* You could change the battle system in the original though to make it not ATB and more standard Turn-based right ?

Why not just give a few options

bouzebbal1038d ago

i really think it's a good thing too, especially with rumors of Genesis being part of the game. It might be a mix between FF7 and Crisis Core and maybe Dirge of Cerberus with the badass Vincent.
I agree with the above, they just don't touch the battle system, and especially not the materias!!!!

rezzah1038d ago

I'd actually prefer a KH style of fighting. Provides a better sense of actually being in a fight, plus it'd be like watching the team go up against Bahamut in Advent Children.

Quickstrike1038d ago

That would cause a riot and petitions to remove Nomura​ from the FF VII remake.

nix1038d ago

i read somewhere that the dev said "Cloud and other characters are looking great on HD version and making Cloud and others just stand while the battle is going on would be an injustice"...

so i think the it is going to be ARPG... much like KH or FFXV.

the only FF i got into was Dirge of Cerberus because it was an ARGP. i was totally blown by graphics of other FF on PS2 (started late) but just couldn't get into the JRPG gameplay system.

if FFVII comes out in ARPG style i would welcome it and love it. otherwise.. i'll just be happy for all those gamers.

rezzah1038d ago

@nix

I can still play turn base RPGs, but it just isn't immersive as ARPGs.

DemonChicken1038d ago

imo prefer some change, I personally think won't be as fun if everything was exactly the same, i.e. like to see something that would wow or surprise me. Of course though as long as it does not deviate drastically from the original version, I am cool with it.

and definitely will be some changes expected hence remake and not remaster

TricksterArrow1037d ago

No, please. FFXIII and FFXV already take away a lot by only letting you control a single character in battle (and the game ending with the death of the leader), keep this crap away from FFVII.

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Cha0tik1037d ago

Really? You want the same exact battle system? God, play the old FF7. He has already stated in an interview he refuses to have these beautiful remodels attack and jump back into place. They can keep the turn based style but do it in a way that doesn't make the game feel dated. Sorry, regardless if you agree with this or not it's already been confirmed to have been changed.

kalkano1038d ago

Changes can, should, and will be made. They just need to make sure they're changing it in the RIGHT WAYS. Changing it into an ARPG is the worst thing they could possibly do for the remake, the series, their company, and the entire AAA industry.

DarkBlood1038d ago

exactly, if i want to play an action Based RPG i'll just go to FF15 when it releases.

otherwise when i play this remake i do not want to be reminded of FF15 figuratively speaking.

Concertoine1038d ago

I'm wondering what the combat will be like, Nomura hasn't really utilized turn-based for a while.

I heard there will be possible changes in the story. That's honestly a very interesting concept. A twist on a classic that everyone knows, and no one expects to change.

Nucler1001038d ago

Last time I'll be posting this, just a final reminder,

the game WONT be TURN BASED

It's been confirmed.

(If anyone is wondering , copy and paste this messsge)

(WOOO time for some XV gameplay!)

http://www.vg247.com/2015/0...

-That said, it’s extremely unlikely the combat of the original will be retained.

“We can’t have these upgraded, beautiful 3D models of Cloud and Barrett, still lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy, then jumping back to wait for their next turn,” Nomura said.

“That would be bizarre. Of course there will likely be changes there.”

kalkano1038d ago

Has not been confirmed by anyone. You're talking about presentation, which has nothing to do with turn-based/action.

Get over it.

Nucler1001038d ago (Edited 1038d ago )

Why are you so blindingly optimistic?
You don't want this to happen THAT badly?

Why?

You are the first, of the hundreds I have seen, with this view.
Even the writer of the article understands what he means.

YOU also know exactly what he means man, stop acting like you don't.

Turn based isn't going to be in the game, and that's not a bad thing
It's time to move foward.

It just doesn't fit the setting and characters of the game.

At all.

Nomura knows this, and you know this.

kalkano1038d ago

Knock it off. Everything you just said is pure BS, and you know it.

igorgum1038d ago (Edited 1038d ago )

“We can’t have these upgraded, beautiful 3D models of Cloud and Barrett, still lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy, then jumping back to wait for their next turn.”
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Then it could turn out to be like a cinematic battle, in which you would be choosing your actions WHILE the "action" is going...

Still "atb" AND fits Nomura description.

I would be so damn excited if it turns out to be like this...

deim0s1038d ago

@igorgum: Soooo basically FF13's battle system.

igorgum1038d ago

@deim0s No, literaly more like an animated turn-based cgi

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No21038d ago

Damn. I hope that we'll be able to control our party members at least. I'll wait and see how they implement it first.

NovusTerminus1038d ago

And I'll say this again, this will likely play how Versus XIII looked.

Ratty1038d ago

Yeah that's what I think too. It probably uses the same engine as well.

TheOneWhoIsTornApart1038d ago

@One_Eyed_Wizard: It has been confirmed to be using the Unreal 4 engine which i'm completely fine with. I'm sure it has something to do with the Luminous studio development team still finishing up the engine and working on Final Fantasy XV. Also the studio Cyberconnect2 is co developing the game with Square Enix. They are going for photo realistic graphics. This is very exciting. I can't wait to see our favorite characters and locations from the game in ultra high detailed graphics.

Nucler1001038d ago

That,

actually makes a lot of sense.

Lol, I can't believe I forgot about that system. Wow.

Powerful post.

NoctisPendragon1038d ago (Edited 1038d ago )

@TheOneWhoIsTornApart

Do you have any sources ? No one confirmed UE4 as far as i know , i don't see FF VII looking better than FF XV if they don't use an in-house engine where they can do everything they want .

TheOneWhoIsTornApart1037d ago

@NoctisPendragon: I read it on Square Portal. I don't know why it wouldn't be true but if it ends up being I made a mistake then I will certainly own up to it. I am going to see if I can find any more info on that.

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Ratty1038d ago

If you don't like turn-based combat then why do you even like the game? It's not a remake if they're just going to use the characters' design for a new game and loosely base it on FFVII.

Adrian_v011038d ago (Edited 1038d ago )

Because the game isn't about the battle system, it's about the customization (materia), the characters, the world, the story, the lore and it's importance for the time when it came out. It's so much more than just the battle system.

If you only like it because of the battle system, why are you so fond of it? There's hundreds of other games with turn based battle systems.

P.S. They already clarified in a dozen interviews that with remake they don't literally mean remake, but more of a re-envision.

Spotie1038d ago

"If you don't like turn-based combat then why do you even like the game?"

Is that a serious question? I think you and kalkano- and SlightlyRetarded- are the only ones who look at an otherwise promising rpg and go, "Wait, this isn't turn-based. PASS."

I have NEVER chosen a JRPG because it was turn-based, or because it wasn't, for that matter. It won't have an impact one way or the other on me getting 7R, but I WILL be somewhat disappointed if it is.

Ratty1037d ago

I guess it wasn't clear for some reason but when I talk battle system, I mean everything related to it such as the materia system and the customization.

When have I ever said I'd pass on a good RPG just because it wasn't turn-based xD I've played and loved JRPGs that aren't turn-based. The point is, when you remake a game you need to find a perfect balance between keeping it the same and changing it.

And yes it was a serious question. If you guys like FFVII so much that you want a remake then why would you change one of the core mechanics that made it so good in the first place. I'm not saying it wouldn't be good if they changed it. Just that it won't be the same game.

Spotie1037d ago

If I wanted to play the same game, I'd just play VII. The point of a remake is to play an improved version of a familiar game.

I don't think the game will fall apart if it's no longer turn-based, nor do I understand why you would think the desire to see something other than that would mean a change to the Materia system or anything else.

kalkano1037d ago (Edited 1037d ago )

@Adrian:

"Because the game isn't about the battle system"

You lost me. Never once have I liked a game in which I did not like the gameplay.

kalkano1037d ago (Edited 1037d ago )

@Spotie:

Dude, comments of "they better keep it turn-based" are FLOODING THE INTERNET!

"If I wanted to play the same game, I'd just play VII. The point of a remake is to play an improved version of a familiar game."

This is true. And that's why we want it to stay turn-based.

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Eiyuuou1038d ago

It is open to interpretation.

No21038d ago (Edited 1038d ago )

So, I did some more digging and came across the full Q &A session:

The trailer seemed pretty serious in tone. Will the occasional humor the original game carry through?

TN: The comedy or the lighthearted parts -- I like those. I don't want to change it that much. But we can't have these upgraded, beautiful 3D models of Cloud and Barrett, still lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy, then jumping back to wait for their next turn. That would be bizarre. Of course there will likely be changes there. But if we took away parts like the lighter moments of the game, then it would no longer be FFVII."

Nomura seems to have a handle on the story, but the combat is definitely removing the turned based system. Hmm. I guess I'm for it. I think it could probably pay off in the long run. Could be fun too.

I'm just happy that we're getting the game at the end of the day.

Here's the link if anyone's interested: http://www.engadget.com/201...

kalkano1037d ago

"but the combat is definitely removing the turned based system."

He never said that. Once again, that's referring to the way it's presented. He MIGHT be changing genres, and he MIGHT not be. There's no way to know, at the moment.

BABY-JEDI1038d ago

My dream would be a combat system like Vagrant Story, but you could chain your characters attack. With the resultant physics changing the combat style. It would ultimately play out like the animations of Advent Children but more dynamic. You would have these organic combat bubbles defining range & damage intensity but resulting somersaults, flips, weapon accuracy / damage would be prone to change.

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Chug1038d ago

There will be changes, but it's in good hands the way it sounds . This is the one game they can't and don't want to mess up.

And not to start a war, but why is Xbox One tagged in this submission? There's been absolutely no confirmation saying it's coming to X1, and no reason we should believe it is. PC yes, but Xbox no.

Ratty1038d ago

I haven't heard about it being confirmed for any platform but PS4 but they did say PS4 first. I see no reason why they shouldn't port it to X1 eventually.

PSN_ZeroOnyx1038d ago

Nothing is confirmed as of yet other than PS4 and likely followed by PC. And understand i'm in no way saying X1 will never see it. However, I've heard talk that Sony's financial support developing and marketing the original version in '97 is why it was never ported to the 360 back when PS3 got a port. This could change possibly if enough changes are made and it can be considered a new IP. Very up in the air and PS4 wont likely see this game before 2017 (20th anniversary of FFVIi). Therefore you won't likely know till then what platforms will receive it in 2018.

Debaitable1038d ago

Can you not confirm that it's likely to come to PC as well then? Because they never said that either. We can all agree all that were said was "PS4 First".

Spotie1038d ago

No, but we know VII has come to PC before, on at least two occasions; meanwhile, it has come to Xbox ZERO times.

Additionally, Sony has been pretty consistent with saying "console debut" when speaking of a game that will come to other consoles after a period of exclusivity, so it's reasonable to believe that PC will follow PS4, but not XB1.

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