Recently, Shigeru Miyamoto admitted that the Wii U launched at a price that was higher than what even Nintendo wanted.
At least Nintendo always takes a risk, rather than playing it safe.
not very well though out risks however
Who is agreeing with this? I'm not even sure it's english.
typo. shit happens
Hopefully someday capitalization and punctuation happen too.
my bad. i simply forgot that i was back in english class. my condolences professor douche
Sometimes playing it safe is what the industry needs. Sony played it safe by listening to game developers when they designed their system. I'm pretty sure developers are pretty happy with that.
Excuse me while a drop some reality on your head. http://gamasutra.com/view/n... Mobile gaming is flooding the market right now, in Japan, and elsewhere. Playing it safe is going to strangle half of Nintendo's core business.
Actually I would call what sony did playing it smart not safe. Who else would better understand what is important for a console than game developers themselves. Yeah Nintendo truly likes to live dangerously, with their console hardware. That is why it still reuses the cpu and gpu line from the gamecube for the wii u.
I'm not sure I would buy a $250 nx... I hope they give us the option to support superior tech.
Gamecube was at like ~100$ meantime.
True. It doesn't always work. One of the problems is that gamers are so resistant to change that it truly forces the industry to stagnate.
risk? Mario every dam year at e3 is a risk to you? how about new ip? that's a risk
People look at franchises and see stagnation; however, Nintendo makes its games fresh with every iteration. Only someone who never actually plays a Nintendo game seriously thinks as you do. Which is sadly most people. The family friendly image has made many men insecure in their masculinity and maturity unable to enjoy the amazing and unique gameplay experiences that Nintendo delivers time and time again. Plus, it's a really unpopular thing to like right now. God forbid people actually make their own unbiased judgements.
"How bout a new IP"? You mean like Splatoon, that released a couple weeks ago, with outstanding reviews, and is hella fun? Nice try, but they took a risk, and its paying off.
i highly doubt nintendo massed produced a product without fully grasping the cost before hand. they knew how much they wanted it to retail for, and it was purposefully overpriced because they anticipated it would be a runaway success like the wii... of course, they were wrong. even today the wiiu is too expensive. why would anyone pay 1 penny over £100 for retro technology. i personally refuse to pay over 80
Because it's foolish to think that tech is more important than software. If so, then SNES and PS1 games should just be completely ignored. Nice logic buddy.
That's what you get for adding a silly gamepad you hardly ever use for your games. The Gamecube adapters are selling through the roof and people are always looking to find one. Take the hint
That dumb gamepad is the reason the price hasnt been dropped further isnt it? The wiiu simply costs too much for what it is
If they wanted to do the Gamepad fine but there should have been two editions. The other edition would have included something like this http://gameswallpaperhd.com... It would also be cheaper so if the Gamepad failed then at least they would just manufacture more of these editions instead
They should have already done this already. Make a new edition with no game pad. How many games actually utilize it. I mean I think people would buy a wii u right now for 199 or 249
O man that controller slays all the making of gamecube goodness for the wiiu such wasted potential.
That truly is a nice looking Wii U controller and would have been more welcomed by gamers. I'm not saying the game pad is bad, just isn't used the way it should be. Instead it comes off as a cheap gimmick and it isn't even cheap.
Yeah having the gamepad was a bad call. Costs too much, it's not even multi touch, uses up the systems resources (Starfox) & you can only connect one to the system. Perhaps a generation too early for it. Or perhaps they could have made the WiiU a bit more powerful and not be afraid to price match XboxOne & PS4.
Yes, and remember, Nintendo said the system supports two of them. Presumably Nintendo never sold enough WiiUs for them to explore the avenue of develpping games that enable this. Many fights break out on the sofa as the kids compete to use the tablet. Great idea Nintendo..
I think the gamepad is a great controller, but clearly was released a generation too early (costs too much) and is a little clunky/low end. And the fact that they didn't utilize it as much as they should/could have. I wouldn't mind if the NX had a more modern gamepad, as long as it didn't raise the cost too much, which is basically impossible so nevermind. Recreate the Pro controller with analog triggers and release a modern GameCube controller.
Sometimes taking unwarranted risks is unnecessary.
For half the price you can get a PS3 or 360 which have more features, huge backlog, and still more current multiplats. For a mere $50-$100 more you can get an X1 or PS4 which are better investments in the long term. Either way the Wii U is overpriced for what it offers and the cost needs to drop and it needs to do it fast.
I think Ninny takes risks like the gamepad and motion controller before that (which was an initial hit...but tapered off with non-casuals)...because they are unwilling to enter the field of true online gaming. Not the limited online they have now, but rather full on proper infrastructure.
What makes it worse is when you add up the cost of the actual guts...GPU/CPU/Ram....how much was that $30-40? We used to have actual numbers, don't remember where those are now. Protip for Nintendo....don't make a console where the actual guts people are buying the console for are roughly 10 percent of the cost of the system. The worst thing is they had no clue how to use the gamepad. Their whole idea was based around the thought that SOMEONE could and would. Whoops. They sold it as a brand new opportunity for people to create new experiences. Quite the spin. While technically it was true, the problem is, they were the ones who developed it, and they themselves couldn't really come up with anything. At this point they are trying to use it, and all they are doing is making the games worse by supplementing it as something you can do on a stick. I understood the idea of a gamepad, but not at the expense of power, and if so, they better have a some really cool experiences, instead they didn't and went ahead with it anyways assuming someone would. The Wii U simply wasn't well planned all around.
Well that's impossible. I'm not saying Wii U hardware is great but it was and is expensive since it's not off the shelf parts. If a $350 Wii U was sold at a loss with a $80 Game Pad in 2012 that means system had to cost close to $250-$270 on its own
I hope next time they just make a traditional, but powerful console with new games instead. No more stupid motion controls, weird controllers, dildos, rehashes, etc.
Sony's Move controllers look more like dildos.
@Foxtrot problem with offering a gamepad-less version of the WiiU is that it shows they don't gave full faith in their vision for their console. This message would hit consumers & devs pretty hard. Now that its basically a failed system....cutting the gamepad, dropping price HUGELY and acknowledging that they are solely developing for their system essentially would be the right direction. Moving beyond this? Hit Sony & MS with Nintendo satellites! Lol Seriously though ninny will always play third fiddle. Even if they hit a fad or whatnot. Making huge bank....means little to actual gamers. Especially since Nanny sits on the huge bank for the most part.
What vision is that when it's mainly used for off TV play and inventory menus. Like I said before introduce a gamepadless system for cheap and if people want the full experience they should get the deluxe ;)
This was a year ago. Enough with the clickbate.
Drop the price Nintendo. When they dropped the 3DS price I picked one up along with millions of others. Its now the highest selling platform and many publishers are cashing in on the 3DS popularity
Pleeeaaase drop the price. I want a WiiU bad, but I don't want to drop that much money, especially when games published by Nintendo take forever to depreciate in price.
Well, they can be had refurbished for pretty cheap. That being said, this holiday season I'm thinking they should 'officially' drop the price to something like $250 (even though it can be had for that price pretty easily) for a bundle with Nintendoland, Mario Kart 8 and some other goodies and announce a program that allows you to get a free virtual console game every month for the six months or so afterwards. Something like that would make it very attractive.
I think at this point Nintendo doesn't drop the Wii U's price because they'd rather make money off say, 50k per month in the US rather than lose money on say 80k per month. I am surprised they haven't released a Wii U Mini, like the Wii Mini, that strips out features to cut costs. A top-loading drive, less USB ports, no Wii BC via discs (but still via eshop), smaller Game Pad, etc. I'd think the longer they go with a $299 Wii U, the more likely NX releases in holiday 2016
Then maybe Nintendo ought to lower it.
I swooped up on the Wii U when that Wind Waker edition came out and besides the Metroid games and Super Castlevania those are the only ones I have.
I think it would be nice to see Nintendo bring out a new box set of the Wii U, one with just the pro controller. This way they can lower the price and more people will gladly buy the Wii U.
What happen was they thought they can do the same thing like the wii controller and sell like hot cakes as well as release early like 360 but the strategy fail. So they probably learn from that now and do right with nx.
The GamePad just might have something to do with it.
They need to cut the price. But i got mine from nintendo directly. refurb 199.99 great deal with a one year warranty. Has full wii backwards compatibility, virtual console Games, wii vc, and is unique. Coming in now is a good time, but at launch it was barren. Waiting for fatal frame and zelda.
Drop the price without the tablet. Most of your games don't even utilize it
It will be cool if the NX one can still use their old Wii controller still. I doubt those are going away.
When are people going to realize they can't drop the gamepad the Wii u system settings like setting up your internet connection moving or copying your save data and the other things like that can only be done with the gamepad you can't use the pro controller so people would buy a cheaper Wii u without the gamepad but you can't play your Wii u because without the gamepad you can't setup your Wii u when you first turn it on so yeah ditch the gamepad and make the console cheaper but you can't play it yeah smart move
I like the idea and potential of the gamepad but Nintendo lost me long ago. Plus with an underpowered system, no thanks.
The price should be 229-249 by now.
it should $99-$199
Does this mean that the next Nintendo console will be launched much less?
if they had dropped the hyperexpensive gimmicky controller they could have offered it at a reasonable price
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