PlayStation gamers enjoy these kind of games, says Shuichi Kobayashi.
I understand not releasing an Xbox One version, but I would think a PC version would be relatively easy for them.
PC gamers are not really familiar with the Star Ocean series. Plus, releasing on PS4 and PC but not X1 would make no sense. Not to mention that the previous episode was released on X360 and not on PC.
No Man's Sky and SFV will be coming to PC as well as PS4 so it isn't unusual. Also, when was Star Ocean 4 released on Xbox One?
@SaveFerris. I meant 360. It was a mistake, I edited my comment.
They want to achieve 1080p @60fps and they know xbone will hold them back from that goal, that's why it's ps4 exclusive. It's in the article.
most of the people buying it will be from playstation fans, which is true. so to me that is a fair evaluation but to say it's because of technical reasons isn't a valid excuse.
"when we did a survey about the PS4 release, there are more PlayStation gamers enjoying these kinds of games. We wanted to make this game primarily for the people who are eagerly awaiting a sequel" its simply because of the divers install base of the PS4
If it was something "Western" I could see people being up in arm but to be honest I'm not sure most Xbox owners will care. I know it's my opinion but am I the only one who find Japanese games utterly unappealing? I'm european, I prefer western games to eastern games, just the same as the Japanese do with Western games. Am I the only one?
@Army_of_Darkness Lol, fanboy much? So the X1 is going to hold the game back more, performance wise, then the ps3 version does? Do you even realize the X1 is more similar to the PS4 then the PS3 is to the ps4? Yes it is more resources for every version, not specifically the X1 though that causes them to not reach 1080p/60fps.
Star Ocean situation is the same as Tales Of games from Bamco. Most of the fans of the franchise are on Playstation. The tech issue is just an excuse. They just don't want to spend money on the community with the lesser fanbase for the title.
Star Ocean 5 probably using PS3 proprietary code library, making it legally "technical" impossible to port it onto other than Sony Platform.
PC gamers are never going to get familiar with Star Ocean (console rpgs in general) if no one releases any on PC. As told by several devs, it's relatively easy to port X1/PS4 games to PC (they use the same architecture after all and almost every multi plat game gets released on PC) so that's really no excuse. @Army of Darkness It's being released on ps3 so it's a cross gen title (so the ps4 version is a port). I hardly doubt the X1 wouldn't be able to achieve [email protected] (maybe 1080, RPGs aren't really that taxing on hardware).
S-E has been pretty bad with PC programming (see Lightning Returns) You'll get SO5 on PC but I give it 2-3 years
no its not coming, SO never touch PC
It's that kind of game which is not popular enough (See FF) but a niche good game neither (See YS games) Probably will stay PS4 exclusive.
And this is one of main reasons why I always own only PC + PS. Xbox and Nintendo systems simply don't cater to my needs.
The first thing I learned after I was given a Wii was that Nintendo did cater to my needs, I just hadn't realized it.
Well at least he didn't rule out the possibility for a PC/XB1 release, but I do understand where he is coming from.
This longer this gen goes on, the more the sales of PS4 hardware and software greatly exceeds Xbox One at a ratio more than 2:1. My point, don't expect PS4 exclusives to release on Xbox One later, Especially jrpgs.
"Square Enix had a decent E3 showing and although it was no way close to what Sony, Microsoft and Bethesda showcased in their respective presentations" you got that wrong pal, Square Enix > Microsoft.
Yep, and Square Enix > Sony.
Nope. If you hadn't realised Square Enix = Sony. Square Enix conference was basically Sony conference part 2.
Horizon and Uncharted 4 ate everything else for breakfast. It was a great E3 across many conferences, but all considered, these two games took 1st and 2nd place for me. I couldn't tell you which one was 1st though! The clutch of RPGs for PS4 was the icing on the cake and Star Ocean is the very welcome cherry!
Well said, the author must have been drunk during Square Enix conference. As you said, it was better than MS.
Yes Star Ocean 5 can't wait to give this a play thru. Now get it over here and if you don't i'll still get it. Playstation my go to spot for JRPG's.
The way I see your not on the console I own no need for me to worry about your game that goes to all developers, cause I be damn if these fools think I wpuld buy a additional console just to play on specific game. But hey best of luck.
Man, it's japanese devs - they became dumb because of the mobile games. The same Square Enix western studios create amazing games on both consoles. Tomb Raider running in 1080p. They have their hands not out of the ass like japanese devs.
If 10 devs have 1 game they are not bringing to your console of choice, then its not one specific game you are missing out on, its 10. Not saying there are 10 games, just using an arbitrary number to get a point across. So you way of thinking is flawed when looking at the big picture.
@slasuru01 Tomb raider ran 1080p 60fps on Ps4 and 30 on the Xbone
You say that as if they need your money. They can careless about you.
Typically people buy the console that has the games they like to play. If you primarily, or even heavily like JRPG's the X1 was always a terrible choice. Every JRPG fan knew it. Heck we knew it last gen when the PS3 wasn't really delivering. So we all migrated to PSP or 3DS because that's where they were all going. Go to JRPG specific websites and read the forums, it's discussed, then laughed at even considering. The WiiU is a better choice to be honest. If you don't buy games you actually prefer because they aren't on your preferred console, then you have to ask yourself if you prefer playing the console, or if you prefer playing games, of if you made the wrong choice in console selection.
PS3 not delivering on JRPGs? ...we must have had very different systems.
The first few years of the PS3's life was pretty barren of JRPG's. That's what I was referencing. It got a lot better after that, particularly the past four years or so. So, what I meant to say was, even in PS3's early life, where JRPG's were extremely rare, the Xbox was not really considered a viable alternative to play them on. It had a couple good JRPG's early on, but after that, it was even more barren than the PS3 was. I actually considered getting a 360 due to the lack of JRPG's on the PS3, but decided to wait a bit, and glad I did, because that genre became a dead end on the 360.
It's a bullshit. Porting a game between PS4/Xbox One and reverse takes a week or so. It is more difficult to port game to PS3. That said, I'd agree even for a shitty 720p port on Xbox - I love the series and finished the previous one on 360, one of my favourite games ever.
Xbox isn't a place where jrps thrive. If you love the genre then you should be thinking of getting a ps4 since that's usually where jrps are going to land.
Ah...taking the Bethesda approach to porting to another console I see. Getting it running may take a week, but making it work fully usually takes a separate team working months to make happen.
I find it funny how he as to Explains why this game is not coming out on the box so sad. anyway here is a good reason Media Create Sales: Week 24, 2015 (Jun 08 - Jun 14) XB1 | >100< | 219 | | 9.176 | | 52.443 The box is dead in japan 100 units for this past week yea he needed to Explain aright.. Like i said before if YOU wanna play 80% of Japanese games buy a Nintendo or Sony system
If they don't want star ocean to be release for Xbox one bcs of it limitations, what does that say about FFXV? The truth is it can be active on Xbox one but it won't be made for it bcs of the small fan base.
I agree,I actually expect the game to come to PC in 2 years after releasing on PS4.
Well there is always a possibility but consider the information from the following URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... Basically the Star Ocean series has appeared only on consoles (predominately PlayStation) or on portables and never on PC. Of course you can get the games to run (green parrot and peg leg required - rum optional) under emulation on the PC. ;-)
Lack of sales sounds pretty technical to me. Numbers and all that.:)
Star Ocean started on playstation so ppl should expect these games coming to playstation. Thats just it, no offense to other platform fans.
From the Wiki: Star Ocean, the first game in the series. It was released on July 19, 1996 for the Super Famicom and never released outside of Japan; however, it was unofficially translated into English through ROM hacking by DeJap Translations, and the resulting game can be played through emulation. Green parrot and rum optional ;-) Star Ocean: The Second Story was released for the PlayStation on July 30, 1998, in Japan, May 31, 1999, in North America, and April 12, 2000, in Europe.
Just say straight that nobody cares about X1 in Japan, so the sales would be incredibly small in all regions.
Ah, I don't buy this.
Haha yeah right! The game can run on PS3, but can't run on Xbox One?! I do admit I have some Sony fanboyism in me, but this is just pure BS. Why won't they just admit that they have agreed with Sony on something that is yet to be disclosed? The guy is contradicting himself in the article as well...First he talks about technical stuff and then about the market. Not good. Be straight with us if you want us to buy your game.
They are probably making it on the PS3 then upgrading textures resolution and frame rate for the PS4 Sony probably gives you all the tools it would probably be easier for then to port it over to the Vita.
Its a JRPG aswell so that alone is a challenge because those games do not sell well on Xbox. But Ill keep my eye on this for my PS4.
so much rpgs games, i cant wait to play them all! but ill most likely be busy with college :/
Im Sorry but Nintendo and Playstation is the home of JRPG's, for those bitter gamers who want's this on xbox, I thought your all good with what MS has for you? Halo 5, gears 4, forza 6 etc and some new IP's. As if your going to buy this game when it launches i bet? and JRPG and xbox does not mix well. If this were true xbox should have been dominating japan since yoichi wada gave 360 star ocean 4, infinite undiscovery and FFXIII
So why can't the Western version be released on 360/X1 or (at least) PC. You can't really expect the install base for rpgs to increase if no one releases games for it and during the survey, almost all the users and a ps4 so of course that was going to happen.
because this is a game made primarily for the Japanese market were the Xbone is a non-entity... most people who like niche Japanese titles play on Playstation so porting it to Xbone only for the west doesn't make financial sense.. end of discussion
In other words, Microsoft need to focus on the west and stop trying to sell the Xbox to the Japanese. They practically made it very clear that they would rather die than touch an Xbox controller.
Yea that's bull. FF15 can be on the one but not this. Such disappointment.
It's not complex guys. Cost of port - expected sales = viability of port. It's coming to PS3 for the same reason Persona 5 is, because the japanese install base for the PS3 is very large. The japanese 360/xbone install base is miniscule, the PS4 is outselling the xbone almost everywhere in the world atm and Playstation has been the home of JRPGS (seriously competing only with handhelds) for 20 years.
Definitely agree with what you said. While I don't have access to the software libraries (think API's if you don't know what I mean) and development tools for the PS3 and PS4, however I would make a fairly informed guess that there would not be that much of a difference between them. So basically if you develop for one it would be fairly easy to develop for the other since most system calls would be the same. Of course if you are going down to what is called "the metal" then that is a totally different thing and doing that is extremely specialized no matter what the architecture. On the other hand to develop for the PC (assuming a Microsoft OS) as well as the XB360 and XB1 you have to develop using Microsoft's tools and API's which would be different to Sony's tools and libraries used on the PlayStations. Of course third party tools and libraries/API's may be very similar that porting is not all that of a problem.
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