Kombo writes: "It has been ten years in the making, and I have a prediction to make: Too Human's flawed camera will ruin game. The title might have other problems, but for many, the loudest complaint will be in regards to its camera.
Mr Phillip Levin (Editor in chief) said... "Too Human's flawed camera will ruin game." Besides the fact that he did not edit his own "prediction" I think he is putting a little too much on the camera. The way I see it is that if it was a free camera people would b*tch just as bad, it is a double edged sword imho. At least they are trying to do something with the camera. I got used to it and think it works well.
There are so many games that lock you into the camera at least Too Human gives you the chance to look around by holding the left button. It has never been a problem for me.
I think they are right. The demo, as much as people refuse to admit it, uses a camera that isn't going to change in the final game. Not at that point. Such major features are locked by then. And the demo had a horrible camera. Silicon Knights do not have the ability to implement an auto camera with the talent of a developer like Crystal Dynamics whose Legacy of Kain series demonstrated auto cameras are something they do better than anyone. Dyack should have stuffed his ego aside and used a manual cam. The game, like several message boards, is once again poorer for his inflated sense of righteousness. The skill of Crystal Dynamics is without equal in the camera realm - and a few other areas as well. It is great they have fully assumed the Tomb Raider games responsibility.
have to agree the camera sucks in this game however, i will still be buying this title after playing the demo.
They would make a new Soul Reaver game, hell any Legacy of Kain game i'd accept. Like you said CD made one of my favorite games of all time in Soul Reaver hell i didn't even notice that it was a automatic camera until you mentioned it just now. On topic though, Too Human gameplay wise never looked too good to me but the story has always intrigued me. Specially since i'm a sucker for mythology. I say if the story is really good than i think alot of people will forgive a few other blemishes.
i've never once seen you diss the 360 or it's games!! the camera works fine for me! and i loved the demo...just hurry up and release the damn game.
I'm still waiting for Legacy of Kain Defiance to be backwards compatible on my 360 =(
INFIDELS ! ok guys ... this game sux i'm sorry but it's true i downloaded the demo and i played for like 3 minutes and i hated it ! the game sux! this game is satanic ! it's one of satan's plan to destroy us loyal 360ians ! INFIDELS ! i'm sure juuken has something to do with this evil plan X360 FTW
It irritated me the first minutes of gameplay, but once I got used to it there was no problem. He's a retard if he thinks it will ruin the game. Looking for publicity I guess. If anything will ruin Too Human it's all this undeserved, overly negative press it's been getting lately.
Maybe the press was negative because it was crappy ? Who knows... MS can't buy every fansite after all.
I learned to trust the camera while playing it and holding LB and moving the right analog stick allows you to look around. The demo has convinced me that Too Human is worth me shelling out my money on.
if you learned to trust the camera then Silicon Knights fails at game design 101.
Different strokes for different folks.
I didn't have a single issue with the camera in my time with the demo. Honestly, I prefer to not have to sit there and manage the camera. Instead, I can focus 100% on what I'm doing. That's one of the things I really like about games like Gears or any random FPS. No camera management, period.
I didn't have a problem at all with the camera. I was initially reluctant to trust the camera and just bash away; but, the camera definitely seemed smart enough to know what I (the player) needed to see to produce large amounts of carnage. After checking the demo out twice (2nd time for more than 30min) I'm buying the game.
The camera didn't bother me at all. This game's gameplay just bored the hell out of me. I just couldn't get into it. I deleted the demo after trying it 3 times. Couldn't pay me to beat that game or play that demo again. Now before people just start shelling out disagrees just think about what I just said. I never said this game is doomed, I only stated my opinion.
I actually had high hope on this game. I will not pay 60 but i might buy it when it drops. Gears 2 gets my full 60 +.
Well, at least you gave it a good chance. Not every game is for everyone. Bubbles for being honest and being a reasonable reviewer. Hard to find people that'll admit that a game just isn't for them.
this game is the epitome of banality and bad taste. and Dyack is the biggest loser in the gaming industry sorry , i'm just being frank here.
Isn't that just another term for a wiener?
Does anyone remember what a cr4p camera this game had ... surely this should be a lesson to ALL developers that these types of games need good/flexible camera control ... relaseing a game with such a bad camera is a bad idea.
The camera didn't bother me. After a few runs with the demo, I had the camera working with me.
Try Diblo Style FarCam , No problems there
too human is great
The comment of Denis Dyack sound awful similar to of Julian Eggebrecht Level 5: both of them think everybody is wrong while they are right. It is YOU (player, journalist, critic, etc…….) who are close-minded, can’t accept their “right” decision! Hopefully MS will not issue a “How to review Too Human Guide” to journalists, like Sony did!!!!!!
Although as a gamer you should be able to overcome these things. It just makes the game a little less accessible than what it could be.
Just finished the demo a few days ago...
Quote from article: "To be more specific, what I dislike about Too Human's camera is when it forces you to walk towards the screen, rather than away." The very first time you have control of Baldur in the demo, he's facing you! You have to walk toward the screen!
I haven't damned the game at all, BUT, I did notice the camera difficulties however they aren't nearly as bad as what we saw with Ninja Gaiden. Also, I was disappointed with the graphics. For a game that was in development this long it should have better graphics IMO. I could see them having to downgrade the graphics to keep the framerate up. Playing the demo I just wasn't overly impressed like I wanted to be. I've only played as the champion though, I hear the berserker class is a bit more fun/
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