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Kickstarting Shenmue. Are we OK with that?

"Do you have a theory on why the game needs a crowd funding campaign?"

Asa from Gameondaily wonders about why such a seminal title would even require Kickstarter funding and wonders about the dangerous trend it might possibly set.

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ritsuka6661188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

I think the reaction from the live audience would have been enough to tell how much Shenmue were popular among hardcore players...

Abash1188d ago

Whatever it takes to make it finally happen.

galgor1188d ago

Exactly. I don't give a Shit so long as the game is being made.

Nirvana315911188d ago

I'm starting to think these sites are getting funded by Microsoft to put out such ridiculously stupid articles. They've explained several times on PS Blog why they chose Kickstarter. SMH

Volkama1188d ago

@Nirvana not sure about MS paying random games sites, but I do have a sneaking suspicion that the playstation blog is loosely affiliated with Sony.

Dir_en_grey1188d ago

For only $30 I am guaranteed the arrival of a AAAA title and a copy and when it's done, what's there to complain about?

Beats pre-ordering normal titles that'll DLC you to death and then come out w/ a GOTY edition later.

This game is worth supporting even if you've never played the original. Just look at the love for this game it's guaranteed to be good.

Lightning Mr Bubbles1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

EDIT:

Actually nevermind. I don't know much about kickstarter. Since E3 I've been talking and talking on N4G.

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yarbie10001188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

In an interview with Yoshida, it was revealed that Sony has a director whose working on "Compiling a List" of games to crowdfund like this.

And this is how the slippery slope begins.

Pay for the hardware. Pay for online. Pay for the games. And now pay to make the games.

http://gyazo.com/2b4c99154a...

And for the guy below me who said it was just to gauge interest. You gauge interest by putting out polls or surveys. This was not to gauge interest. Yoshida himself said that the size of the game depends on how much money they raise. This is to build the game.

Here's a link to that too cause I know people just like to hit disagree even when facts seem to get in the way

http://www.polygon.com/2015...

Roccetarius1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

Indeed, this is a slippery trend to get going, considering we're now talking about larger companies using kickstarter to their advantage. It's a genious way to save money, because the people are gullible enough.

If it's not obvious enough, then no i'm not supporting this.

PS: I definitely agree that it's a poor excuse that it's to gauge interest.

zsquaresoff1188d ago

But the thing is no one is forcing you to pay for anything if you don't want to.

If it upsets you so much, don't buy it.

Sony is helping develop the game that's why its coming only to ps4 and pc.

kickstarter was a test to see if there is enough interest in the game and well, the response shows it does.

deim0s1188d ago

So in your future dystopia, we pay developers to make the games we WANT made. That way, we won't end up with nightmares like the new "Metroid" game. Doesn't sound so horrible to me.

RocketScienceLvlStuf1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

I know you'll take any chance to pour doom and gloom on playstation as you are a complete troll, but the list you are talking about is clearly through Sony's Third party productions.

They are there to help third parties bring games to playstation. Not fund them. Sony fund there own games through their first party studios of which there are many.

They are trying to help third parties bring games that would never again see the light of day back to life.

InSpectre1188d ago

Good point. I wonder if Nintendo had laid out the new metroid design if very many would have paid money in advance.

tiffac0081188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

So you guys would rather not have the game at all? The fans have begged Yu and Sega to kickstart this game for years. If this is the only way to revive beloved and great old franchises so be it. This is not your yearly sequel afterall.

Moe-Gunz1188d ago

You get the game. This is like a better version of pre-ordering. What's the problem?

someOnecalled1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

if true this is a new low. sony did this when they had SOE. they did steam early access for a game when the program are more meant to indies and small companies. aint no way you can spin a large corp taking your money to fund games besides taking the risk. if not they shouldnt be in the business. its to help small business that having trouble acquiring funding. last time i checked sony doesnt need help with funding. its not the problem with Yu kickstarting the game the problem is we are starting to see sony is going to abuse this. and i doubt people on this website would care.

if it was ms or ninty they would get stone thrown at them for months.

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3-4-51188d ago

* What a bad article.

" Are We ok with that ? " ...really ?

* I think the fans OBVIOUSLY said yes when they gave $3,000,000 of their money to support the game making it the fasted game to do so on Kickstarter ever.

* Did this person completely not pay attention to E3 ?

How does this get approved ?

Septic1188d ago

Maybe learn to read? Clearly you've not even bothered and had your feelings hurt at the title.

3-4-51188d ago

My feelings aren't hurt at all.

Clearly you've made up a lie.

If I can't read, how did I read the title ?

If I can't read, how am I responding to your posts ?

ginsunuva1188d ago

You do realize the audience were like the most hardcore of the niche.

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ApolloTheBoss1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

Sony said it themselves: It was to test to see how much people wanted it; to see if it was in any demand. You can't blame them seeing as how the first 2 games costed $40-50 million to make each, which in today's standards would be about $70 million. They sold fairly well but didn't sell enough to cover production costs, and Sony knew that. They wanted to know that they weren't wasting time and resources getting it made and now they know it won't go to waste. Pretty genius if you ask me.

Septic1188d ago

Surveys conducted have already conformed the interest.

Maybe they did use it to gauge interest but its odd that they needed it spelt out with our cash.

Either way, I'm not too fussed. The game is happening. I'm just grateful for that!

lashes2ashes1188d ago

Saying you want something and actually spending the money on it are two different things. this kickstarter proves that people not only want the game they are willing to go out and buy it when it is released.

izumo_lee1188d ago

Whether the game needed Kickstarter or not is debatable but i do think it was a genius move by Sony & Yu Suzuki. With record breaking turnout they knew right away people wanted it.

Also as a backer it makes me believe i had a hand in making the game happen. That is what Kickstarter is all about to give you the gamer some sort of entitlement when a game is successfully funded. It feels good to know that you had a hand at its success & development.

gangsta_red1188d ago

Doesn't Sega still own the rights to Shenmue? How does this even work, is Sega also involved?

Yea, it is strange that a game that is suppose to be the most wanted just isn't outright funded by Sony, they did it with SFV why not Shenmue?

Loadedklip1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

Put your money where your mouth is ... that's basically what they asked for.

tiffac0081188d ago

@Red

From what I understand, Sega only agreed to let Yu make the game if he kickstarts it. My guess is no one wanted to take a direct risk in paying for the IP and Sega as we know does not want to revive most of their franchise for whatever reason.

So Yu took the challenge and is probably now swimming with investors money. Maybe Sega is one of them.

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Volkama1188d ago

Sony also said that Shenmue 3 has been at or near the top of every "most wanted" list and survey for years. The $2000000 target was set to succeed and doesn't really prove anything does it?

Being kickstarter, I wonder if Sony still end up getting any revenue from the pledges that get made? It's all a bit odd!

I hope we don't get into a situation where gamers have to buy games before they are made just to mitigate the risks for a publisher. I don't think there are many examples where they would get away with it though, so Shenmue will likely be an exception to the rule.

someOnecalled1188d ago

why would they need sony to test anything. of all the kickstarters suddenly devs need sony to approve. if they really want to make this game they dont need a massive budget like that. im guessing its because of mocap and of time going into the gfx depatment. if people really wanted this game and it stand up to the standard of the previous games, they should be happy even without high tech mocap, even though it would be greatly appreciated. and its a lot of games that gfx stunning that doesnt have a budget that high so im confused where yall keep getting these number when they usually have marketing budgets in them.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1188d ago

Shenmue is being independently developed with backing and support from Sony. Yes i'm okay with that.

Volkama1188d ago

Yeah the existence of the PC version supports that. I wonder if Yu Suzuki would be receptive to a big pledge from Microsoft in order to add the Xbox to the list of platforms?

MWH1188d ago (Edited 1188d ago )

that's would be interesting and a gain-gain business to all especially us, gamers.

kratoz12091188d ago

Never played shenmune but I'm excited to try it out,
Reminds me of yakuza series

Nerdmaster1188d ago

Yakuza is the spiritual successor to Shenmue.

PaleMoonDeath1188d ago

Yep.

Sony did that to see if the public truly do care in the form of.. well, money. It worked and it's happening.

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