YouTube’s member ‘frost Danger’ has released a video, comparing the 2013, 2014 and 2015 builds of Tom Clancy’s The Division.
It was pretty obvious from day one that those level of graphics were never gonna happen and the E3 2015 footage shows just that.Still looks nice mind you but I'm sure everyone knew this was going to be the case.
every time i look at E3 2013 graphics i just don't believe how they fool the gamers...ugh ubizoft
I wasn't impressed with the E3 2013 graphics either. It was overhyped from the start. Still atleast looks like a good game.
Never fooled me.
Downgrade is real and big.
Oh jeez, these videos are always so stupid. How in the world are you going to accurately judge if asset quality or lighting quality has changed if you aren't comparing the same assets (i.e. same locations with same objects) or the same lighting conditions? The first demo had strong direct lighting and obviously that creates a lot of specular highlights and shadows. The more recent demo, on the other hand, takes place in more subdued lighting due to the overcast skies. This is accurate to the way light actually behaves in those different conditions. If there has been an actual downgrade you sure can't determine that by a video like this.
when it was on stage i didnt think it was downgraded and still dont
@ daBUSHwhaka "It was pretty obvious from day one that those level of graphics were never gonna happen" ? Those level of graphics were done on hardware which is 3 years old now (GTX680). Obviously the detail isn't the same because it isn't using the same hardware of the 2013 trailer, that's the only problem.
I think its still worth a buy, just not at full price. Graphics downgrade = Wallet downgrade. Will scout around for the lowest possible deal for it and enjoy myself. We all know people wont resist the urge to buy it so at least try to hit them where it hurts. Bargain bins, second hand, G2A etc.
Those graphics are possible. Uncharted 4 shows it, so does Horizon (unless those games get downgraded). Ryse is pretty darn near the same quality visuals wise. Only thing I never expected to make it was the level of anti-aliasing in the first video. But the current version they are showing is worse looking than other current gen games. It's disappointing. However, having said that, showing the game in a dark area with very muted lighting doesn't do the game any favors. The lighting and reflections is what made the first demo so special (as well as the destructibility of course). Makes sense gameplay wise, but for showing off the game it makes it look horrible. Some textures have also definitely been downgraded but I do think parts of the game will look way better than what they showed this year in the "dark zone".
They even made it overcast to make things worse. I think the game will look like 2014, but not 2013. The dark zone with no sunlight will look like shit because of art direction/design. If you cut all electricty and make it overcast there's no interesting lighting. Worst area/weather they could have chosen for an E3 demo when they already under fire from downgrading their games from their initial showings. Meanwhile, Star Wars looks freaking amazing at 60fps.
This generation of gamers is the generation of complainers. Some gamers want everything shiny while the gameplay and game content suffer for it. In many cases the difference is small or they use PC footage to make it look better.
Ubisoft being Ubisoft.
This x 20 This scares me so much about Ghost Recon and For Honor.
Unfortunately, I really liked what I saw of For Honor and will probably be really disappointed once they show the actual final build.
People have got to speak up more about this kind of thing. It's silly to lead people on like that Graphics aren't everything. Fallout 4 isn't the best looking game out there but I don't give shit because it's a fantastic series and after the E3 info they've now shared it sounds amazing
Your spot on.Graphics aren't everything.I do like my games to look nice but will always take gameplay over graphics.I'm a sucker for these gameplay demos that are clearly pc footage.Your spot on again and gamers on console should speak out more about getting lead astray by devs.This needs to stop.
You act like Ubisoft showed those graphics with the intent on deceiving players lol. You people are so entitled, it's sad. It's called being ambitious and optimistic about your product. Obviously they wanted to achieve those graphics, they just couldn't! It's not them trying to trick you or pull a fast one in front of your eyes, it's how development works. Not just in games, but in everything. Every form of modern technology has faced these types of problems, and I'm sure in every community there are those same people who complain and think they're being bamboozled, when really, these developers work hard, long hours, just to please a lot of people who mostly whine, complain, and insult them, largely because they enjoy what they do that much.
"You act like Ubisoft showed those graphics with the intent on deceiving players lol" That's exactly what they did do though. They did the same with Watch Dogs and bullshitted their way out the AC Unity fiasco Entitled? Whaaaaa So wanting developers to be truth to us, the consumers, is now being entitled Jesus bloody Christ no wonder developers think they can screw us over.
2013 and 14 looked ridiculous... 2015 trailer while still looks good is a huge downgrade and obvious from the start
It looked amazing. Then it looked pretty awesome. Now it looks... good.
It looked great to me, and that was Alpha footage with the game still nearly a year away. I am not worried. And who cares about the graphics? The premise of the MMO looks awesome. I just hope it can sustain a playerbase so it is not dead a year after release. MMOs seem to be dying left and right.
I won't be purchasing this game on a matter of principle. I dislike the showcasing of "what we wish to achieve." I don't care what you wish to achieve, show me what you are actually capable of doing. Show me progression as it gets better, not the opposite way around. It's hard to applaud when each reveal looks progressively worse than the last. For example, Fallout 4. I respect the hell out of that reveal. It's what is, not what imagination land has in store. Alpha, Beta, Demo, In-Engine, whatever you want to call it. It's not a form of marketing I will support. And as a notion for clarity, I do not buy games based on the graphics, but i do rule them out when they use graphics as an enticing reason to buy, and then pull a bait and switch as the years progress.
I honestly don't care too much.. Yes, it's stupid that developers raise the bar too high but if the game is going to be good and gets some great reviews, I'm going to buy it..
Honestly...I DONT CARE about the downgrade scandals anymore. I will buy this game based on what the final product looks and plays like at release time. Crying about this now just wastes energy...plenty of good games out go enjoy those.
Looked last gen Lol.
I'm not surprised by this, considering the track record with Ubisoft. I wasn't getting my hopes up. I still hurt when I think of Watch Dogs & AC: Unity.
Its a shame really seeing as how UC4, Horizon and Stars Wars: BF are on par with the 2013 reveal(if not exceeding it). Some studios just don't have the graphical prowess that others do. Sucks..
Very true. Also, I don't believe we'll have to worry about Uncharted 4 & Horizon being downgraded, with them being PS4 exclusive. [email protected], Evolution, & Sucker Punch all delivered on the graphics with their games.
the last part of the video shows how downgraded this was. almost looks like the last of us graphics from the ps3 haha.
Don't care what the hell the game looks like, as long as it is fun..
who cares..the gameplay is right there..icant wait to try the beta out in dec
People who want to have the best graphics look deep very deep at your wallets cause its gonna cost alot of money. Im a ps4 gamer and i dont care that much about graphics like the rest. If the gameplay is good and then it looks nice then im down for it. We werent complaining about graphics in ps1/2 era were we??? Didnt think so!!!
It's harder to tell when each individual video has a different time of day/weather. But for the most part, I don't see much of a difference. People who claim to see a "huge difference" are just jumping on the whine wagon.
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