GGG argues as to why The Taken King's CE forcing fans to rebuy what they already own to get some exclusive in-game content is a bad move by Activision.
yeah, buying the collector's edition you get Expansions 1 and 2 and the base game all over again.. hooray for double dipping! I couldn't believe it. At least you get some ok physical rewards with it, but this is ridiculous. Even if you opt for the regular edition you have to pay full price because they are giving you the base game plus both previous expansions too (physical copy - digital runs $40) What the hell is wrong with these people?
I would love to have a theater mode in the game, to replay my Crucible matches. Why not have a forge mode aswell ?
We also need more Halo like modes. I'm not saying turn Destiny into Halo but some wacky modes like Grifball or something would be great. Imagine Metroid Blast Ball in Destiny? Or a map maker? It would be great. Oh well, maybe Destiny 2!
I am a die hard Destiny fan and I prebought the game and the expansions and have sunk hundreds of hours into this game. That said, I don't quite understand exactly what I am getting here. It doesn't sound like it is anything more than the Crota expansion, which at least had a raid. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of content to justify a $40 pricetag. And since I already have the game, shouldn't this be $19.99 plus whatever season 2 expansions go with it? I am not going to buy this and then have to turn around and buy more "expansions" when there isn't really enough content to cover it. New weapons and a new strike? To compete with Fallout 4, No Man's Sky, and other amazing games coming out?
Three shaders, three exotic class items and three emotes? OHH EMM GEEEE! Give me a freaking break, those items do nothing for the game, other than give people a reason to talk more crap about Destiny. If you want to complaint about something, complaint about having to pay $40 freaking dollars for an expansion.
I could have sworn that on the interview with one of the deck he mentioned "tons of new strikes" so I don't think it's just one new strike. Yeah one is exclusively to ps4. There's also a new raid, new classes and supers, new pvp game modes, new gear and weapons of course. New pvp maps, and I'm almost positive the story missions will be longer than how or dark below. I still think the content is worth the $40
Us legendary guardians don't care about that useless gear and xp bonus is for new players. This expansion better be a game changer or destiny is headed for a heartache.
Money Grab!!! Oh wait, ACTIVISION.... Not surprised anymore.
Theatre mode? Are you on ps4? After great matches I just click the share button and it saves the last 15 minutes. @thorstein This expansion is bigger than TDB and HoW combined. Has its own story campaign in addition to new PVP maps and modes, multiple strikes and a 6 man raid. They also confirmed each new subclass is discovered through a different quest line. They don't just unlock right away. I feel like they need a 60 dollar physical edition with just the taken king and the coin + book. That would solve the issues. The other stuff is just pointless in game cosmetic things like shaders. Day 1 Guardians are also receiving founders shaders and emblems.
Custom games is a standard these days, yet Destiny still doesnt have yet, argg, but still the addiction continues, forge, threather & space combat would be awesome!
@Jwill Do you even know how theater mode works ?
I am a die hard destiny fan, or at least i was. Bungie and Activision have lost me however. Unless there are at least 2 raids, a new arena, tens of multiplayer maps, and a new planet to patrol, new weapon types, new enemies, and way better story (which i saw absolutely none of) I cannot justify buying this DLC. I will not buy this DLC, I will not support this kind of behavior from gaming industries. Its sad really, ESO has once again reminded me of just how much content a game like this should have. So i (someone with over 1000 hours game time) have decided to completely abandon this franchise, at this point I doubt Destiny 2 will ever be able to live up to expectations. So goodbye guardians my gjallerhorn has already started collecting dust and destiny probably wont be on my shelf for much longer...
Blame ACTIVISION not BUNGIE
Blame Bungie for making deals with the devil
Blame both of them. The overwhelming majority of people interested in the collectors edition of Taken King are going to be people who already own Destiny and the expansions, this is the one of the most blatant examples of fan exploitation I've ever seen.
Destiny is a 10 year plan so you didn't expect them to give you every expanion in that $40 price did you? Fall q2 2016 destiny game of the year with 4 expanion packs. Fall 2016 destiny 2 Also the slap on the fact was how Bare bone the story was yet millions of you play it daily, so when a developer knows they can get away with giving you absolutely no story, than they know they can get away with even more Promised of a great game with huge budget ended up being just a shooter with amazing tight game play but nothing else. Than you have Witcher 3 who h costed 32 million compare to 500 million for destiny Destiny players have been slapped senseless so now just don't complain.
That's the thing that pisses me off. Each expansion tries to expand on the "story" but everyone just rushes through them as quickly as possible so they can get to the content that matters. A lot of us were expecting a raid in HoW, but instead we get two three-person fire team activities. One of those activities, PoE, is more of the same enemies thrown at you in a survival mode that gets repetitive. The other is a reskinned Skirmish mode that we already had in the base game. Plus new armor and weapons. For a game that is heavy on multiplayer co-op we got screwed not having another 6-person fireteam activity. So now we have to buy the Taken King for a new raid and alright, fair enough, what's another $20? Wait... you say it's $40??! 40 freakin' dollars... Sure they might add missions like the other expansions but no one gives a crap about missions, so we get the new raid, new subclasses, and new weapons/armor. If you're excited about that, so be it, but personally that is the biggest rip-off I've ever seen, especially when there are a ton of other options coming out this fall. After 600 hours this is probably where I call it quits.
I Agee with everything you said. Bungie has acted very greedy,selfish and self centered. Sadly people like you and me don't matter because there are millions of people who play destiny daily They say if you want change speak with your wallet, but these same millions will buy anything destiny related. $40 I mean that's almost as much as a new game. And the game launched with barely any sense able story and all these expanions really haven't improved on that The first time I read about destiny it was like this. Mixture of halo,borderlands and mass effect But instead we got a vry repetitive halo where the gun play is amazing buy everything else is below average There is no loot like borderlands there is no story and missions like mass effect I thought destiny was promising so much and I was right. Bought destiny used from gamestop, played few hours and kept doing the same kind of missions again and again So returned it and got my money back Someone once said to me that you don't get destiny it's about the grind, and I was like rOK I get that but the grind becomes more fun if thee is better loot, a proper story, missions which are not all the same and a open world where we can explore without having to go back to home base after every mission Bungie have been dropped from toe tier developers in my book Kojima ND R* valve rocksteady(even tough they should have handled the whole season pass stuff better) and Cd project red
The story mission, takes places on Phobos, Saturn, and the Dreaduat of Oryx. all three of these areas are large places to explore akin to Earth or the noon. there is 2 new multiplayer modes. individual stories for each class to acquire the new subclasses. new enemies and variations a pleathora of Strikes. Word is its equal to the ammount we got with the full game plus TDB and HoW and then ofcourse there's 1 or two exclusive strikes for PS users. New weapons and upgrading system, tweaks, new Explore missions and public events, new Loot, new multiplayer maps. and new expansion to the new game types we got in HoW New Raid. There is a Vidoc that gives a short preview about all the new content and what to expect in the Taken King.... People simply love to bash Destiny, but with 20 million strong everyone who's in it enjoys it and those that dont well they move on.
Oh for f**ks sake, DESTINY DID NOT COST 500 MILLION. That was the projected budget for their 10 year plan including marketing. People really need to stop saying that.
Miss information kills me, destiny didn't cost 500 million. That's the projected budget for 10 years. Oh Witcher 3 is a huge disappointment, just saying. Everyone hates on Destiny yet almost everyone posting probably still plays it. You act like video game publishers and developers are supposed to not have the same businesses models as every other successful business in the world. They are here to make money. If they make a decent product then that's just a bonus. If you really don't like it don't buy it.
To be fair, on Bungies site it states that those who buy the standalone DLC, the loyal fanbase they call it, will be rewarded with an exclusive emblem, sparrow, and shadder. That's pretty cool.
If you click on the "Learn more about VIP Rewards" it also says: "As a thank you to our most loyal fans who have reached Light Level 30 or who previously purchased Expansion I and Expansion II by August 31, 2015, you will receive an exclusive commemorative Founder’s Fortune Year 1 Emblem, Sparrow, Armor Shader and more at launch with your purchase of The Taken King." http://www.destinythegame.c... The problem is Bungie has not come out to clarify the "and more.." part. It could be very likely that the "and more..." includes all the bonus items in the Collectors editions.
Also in the details, Bungie considers someone who has a lvl 30 by AUGUST to be at the same veterancy level as someone who was DAY FRIGGIN ONE!
I've really liked Destiny but at this point, I'm growing a bit tired of it. I still pop in to play from time to time, but it's becoming the game to play when I'm not playing something else. I've certainly got my money's worth out of it though.
You have to admit that the shooting mechanics have been nailed down. I haven't played a single shooter (Halo games included) that is as "smooth" as Destiny. The game works really really well. The only problem Destiny has is with walling of endgame content (read: ALL elemental primary weapons) to people who can easily fill up a 3-6 man fireteam. There is no reason to force people to use third party sources like LFGs and Reddit for content that is below or matches your level. It makes it time consuming for people without friends who play regularly to get into this content. Don't get me wrong - I've used the LFG (.net) for every Nightfall I've played (and a few VoG raids) and have had great experiences with really friendly people (again ".net"). Through the other LFG the people I've played with have been pretty obnoxious and don't care to be very helpful.
GameSpawn, I agree with everything you wrote. Great points. And yes, the shooting mechanics are what keeps me coming back. At it's core, Destiny is a FUN game.
Im done with Destiny. Slap in the face it was!
I played it daily. More than 300 hours in it. The day they released the first DLC and locked previously available content for non-buyers (good luck on the nightfall/heroic rotation if you don't buy DLC), I deleted the game. Literally. Never played it again and won't give them more money. Excellent shooting mechanics, really top notch. Awful disrespect towards gamers in a game heavily designed around DLC, instead of the opposite way.
The day I booted up Destiny was the day I was slapped in the face by Bungie. I pre-ordered the digital fancy smancy $90 edition of Destiny on Xbox One, only to be greeted with being kicked out of games within minutes of playing or attempting to matchmake. Tried for months and repeatedly got different animal erros as Bungie claimed they were looking into it. I gave up on the game, and should have asked for my $90 back. Never again Bungie, never again! Fin theives!
just an fyi, did you know if you buy the DLC on its own you get an exclusive shadder, emblem, and sparrow? It is on Bungies site but they really didn't stress that during their conference.
The need to make a legacy collection for us that already bought that stuff, but want the Taken King and goodies. Without the double dip. Legacy Collection? Retro Collectors? Returning Guardian Collection?
They do. its the standard edition and its only 40 dollars...
Game is not even that good it got stupid too!
I quit Destiny around a month or two after the release, but I just don't see what's wrong with adding extra cosmetics for collectors. FFXIV does the same once in a while, adding extra stuff for owners of CE. Though it is a one time buy in Square's case I guess.
The problems is that there is no way for owners of the game to get these things without rebuing stuff they already have. With FFXIV you can buy a normal expansion an CE expansion and a full game with expansions etc.
They're charging $40 for something that's had a place holder since ALPHA!!!! How are we not crucifying them for this?
A placeholder doesn't mean they cut content from the original. That being said, this new expansion needs to ramp it up. Better be a long SP campaign to this. Nice and meaty, no more lackluster.
This isn't even close to true. The had placeholder assets for the first two DLCs. The Taken King is the start of 'year 2'. None of it is in game right now.
Its all Activision's doing, boycott their COD franchise from now on
Honestly they need to improve the game and I doubt this will do it. They need a storyline that makes sense, can't believe they don't even have books yet to at least tell me why I care. They need public matchmaking for ALL events, regardless of what they "believe" I don't want to do their job and get my friends to buy the game, then rely on them to be online. Second they need to make it so it's not a repetitive mess. Honestly I didn't even go far in the latest DLC because it was so friggin boring.
So glad I don't play this game anymore, this is one game I regret buying. The game play was fun but like you said I got so bored...
I hear people always complaining about Destiny and do you even play the game I have put 100's of hours into this game and have my moneys worth and I will get my moneys worth with Taken King. Maybe if you found some friends to play with and talk to you might still be playing like me. But 40$ is not a big deal for how much I am going to play it. So stop the hating that is all. Have a nice day.
depends on why you bought it. Yes probably sunk in 50 hours but onl because it was a fun way to hangout with friends in the same game. i dont think the game itself was would have kept me if it wasnt for my friends being there to chat with. I personally bought this for the nice story and strikes but there was little story and the strikes just became repetitive even worse when we got new strikes and they were just reversed strikes that we already played. atleast PVP got new MAPs PVE got only story but not new content as in locations or strikes. amyway im playing the waiting game, releasing saturn is nice but i feel that for 40$ we need to get atleast 3 locations considering that for 60$ we got earth moon mars and venus.
But who in their right mind would buy the legendary edition of this if they already have the first game and the the expansions? The Taken king Legendary edition is for someone who's heard about destiny but never owned Destiny... I'm simply gonna get the regular edition.
Feck them , they can go pound sand and kick a few rocks while there at it .
Yeah, I'm not dishing out $80 just for some shaders, dance moves, and class items. Activision CEO must've been high on bath salts when he approved this. If anything, they'll lose fans this way, rather than getting new fans. They've done some pretty shady stuff since Destiny's release, and I'm not sure I can continue to defend them if they're gonna do dumb stuff like this. I love the game, but I'm slowly starting to turn the other cheek and fill my hours of the day playing other games.
They aren't forcing anyone to do anything. *sigh*
This. And I find it funny that no one is talking about the exclusive shadder, enblem, and sparrow the gamers who buy just the standalone DLC will get. It is really not a big deal.
So if there was a grocery store in a free country which started giving 50% off to only Jews or only Aryans, you wouldn't be disgruntled if you were neither? Because you're not forced to shop at that particular store? *sigh* "They're not forcing you to do anything" is the worst argument set forth against issues of injustice, ever.
It's a lazy argument by lazy people.
Wow, just wow! People will complain about anything lol
I like what I saw in the new major expansion and have enjoyed my time with the game but asking $40 again for additional content is a bit outrageous. Even with all the content they seem to be adding, I just have other games I need to get to. Maybe down the road when it is cheap but $40 with Fallout 4 releasing in less than a month? No thanks.
Major back hand to the face, to people like me who've been playing since day one. The dlc should be at-least $20 to the people who bought both dlc so far. Destiny by itself its pretty much $40 now. Plus though it seems to be a lot of things that look nice and shining in Taken King, It probably won't be worth the $40 dollars Bungie making it sound like in the end.
Please people, stop buying Destiny DLC. It's not even a full game yet. =/
i think the base game with the 3 expansions is a complete game. And they needed to make the stories one completer story. i keep wondering why they dont continue the story but only add crappy side stories.
quit playing like I did, problem solved. There's too many changes for the crucibabies that carry over to the vanguard modes and I'm not grinding to death again for my 3 characters just to keep them leveled up. Playing destiny literally takes all time away from everything else and I was so fed up with the lack of key support right before The House of Wolves came out I'm like "thanks for fixing what we've been asking for all this time, you only waited days before the 2nd dlc to do so" then xur decides to sell every exotic gun for several weeks in a row, basically trolling me and everyone else who grinded and was lucky to get a drop. So I tell myself, why play all this time when I can just buy eventually?
Yeah, I'm done with this game because of this. No Raid matchmaking and now I'm being punished for supporting the game and its lacking DLC from day one. I'll make sure to trade it in to ensure there's no chance of being lured back in.
You people are really complaining about cosmetic crap? I know there's quite a few shader hunters but really people. It's not that serious and this bonus content will only aid in bringing in more players. Really you guys should complain about the legit issues with this game instead of ridiculous stuff like this....
In a game that charges you in game currency and requires hours upon hours of play time to get some shades, YEP. Half of Destiny is cosmetics
Gamers are like mice in a labyrinth with this game. Bungie puts you in the labyrinth and the gamers wander endlessly trying to get out with no real purpose. When you do find your way out they just put you in another labyrinth to endlessly wander with no real purpose.
Grand Theft. Thought so.
Games a ripoff, got rid after only a couple of months.... I'm just glad I didn't sink even more cash into it tbh. That being said it does however, contain THE best line from ANY video game ever!, in it.... but sadly, "I haven't got time to explain, why I haven't got time" ;)
It's almost crazy that there are actually companies out there that look out for their core audience. I could go for an article on the companies that actually do.
Cant believe people invested their time and money on something that should've been free to play.
that new collectors edition does look nice and I am pretty upset that they want me to spend money on versions of the game I already have. would've been smart to have a collectors with just the Taken King expansion. But regardless, come September ill buy the new expansion and continue to enjoy Destiny. Their business tactics might suck beyond belief but the game itself is very addicting. Im in no rush to retire this game.
I too will probably buy the collectors edition as well. I just find it funny that the people doing the most complaining played very little or not at all.
Destiny. The most colossal disappointment in gaming in recent times.
not even close, they're many other far worse. I would say of everyone who actually played the game, theres more people happy with it than disappointed.
yes but they are only playing it because there is NOTHING else out... It is a average game, it's just lucky nothing else is out that's really better than it.