Sony dropped three bombs at E3 but were they bombs or just firecrackers?
I think everyone agree that Sony did amazing job at E3 and dropped huge bombs when it come to games
It was an amazing show, I was very surprised.
Anyway you slice it, PS4 gets FF7 remake, and while the details over exclusivity aren't clear, PS4 gets it first. If it's a timed exclusive, that's major. That to me pretty much associates a game with that console. So as far I know, the FF7 announcement is huge. And again Shenmue 3 is Shenmue 3. I don't know the details of the partnership but is it confirmed that it's coming to XBOX One also or something? Cause if not, then it's a big win for the PS4. So how could those be blank shots, the way this article is saying? That they didn't really belong at the PS4's conference? EDIT: If you don't care for the games that they announced for PS4 that's understandable. Surprisingly there are some people who truly believe XBOX One won E3 hands down. Some people don't care for Japanese RPG's, adventure games like The Last Guardian or innovative games like Dreams and No Man's Sky. I guess it's a matter of taste. It seems like this gen, the XBOX One and PS4 are differencing themselves more in the type of games they are getting, than they did last gen. And that's cool. Each type of gamer can play the console that has the type of games they like. EDIT: Even more Another one of the biggest defenses that XBOX fans are using against PS4 is that they say most of PS4's games aren't coming out until 2017-2018 and that their games are coming out much earlier.
Totally agree with lightening ^ it's basically a toss up on taste . I'd call e3 a tie between Sony & Microsoft . Xbox is finally stepping up & getting its name back in good graces . Sonys continue to do a great job . I'm not a huge jrpg like he stated above . So shenmu, the last gaurdian & ff doesn't interest me at all . But I definitely am looking forward to uc4 & the uc collection, also horizon & gow3. Dragon quest heroes , fall out street fighter batman ect on plaustation . For the X1 gears , halo 5 & Forza . Love the bc announcement & meanwhile Nintendo crapped away my morning waiting for anything to happen during their conference
Hilarious how people are forgetting that Xbox has had a drought this year.
@Lightning Mr Bubbles, possibly blanks because, as you mention, those games may not be released for years, especially with Sony's track record of keeping release schedules. OTOH, Microsoft didn't even show many of its AAA games due next year, that are VERIFIED far into development. A kickerstarter (!?), the 6+ year old tech of TLG that looks practically THE SAME from 2009 (showing a remastered PS3 title, that was on the cutting room floor and now with practically ZERO progress shown, is a megaton to some people!?!), and FFVII (that's also going to be on PC, while Sony fans CONSTANTLY insult Xbox console exclusives for being on PC)... every one of those "megatons" has major negatives, not the the least of which is delay... all while much of what Microsoft is showing is possible to use and preview in a few months or RIGHT NOW (thus NOT BLANKS)! <- That's FAR better #4theplayers... a new UI, backwards compatibility, AND FAR better exclusives THIS YEAR, yet people still think Sony won E3? Everyone hyping those 3 (TLG, FFVII, Shenmue 3) as Sony's "megatons" appear to be exaggerating to SPIN Sony as more successful at E3 than they actually were, and I think the author ending with, "Saying that Sony won E3 is a massive overstatement", is exactly right... the only way I think people can HONESTLY (mistakenly) believe that Sony won E3 is if they mistake Sony's multiplats as exclusives. Horizon and Uncharted 4 were brilliant (I LOVE the theme of Horizon); however, besides that, I think Microsoft won in every way, especially if you include WHAT THEY DIDN'T SHOW! If Sony fans want to hype anything about E3, I think it is valid that they can hype how they think Uncharted 4 and Horizon looked the best to them; however, claiming that Sony won E3 based on the other "3" games is BS, AKA blanks Sony shows to simulate what firing will look and sound like many months\years before it is actually POSSIBLE FOR REAL. Edit: Maybe people aren't clicking on the article's "2009 Debut" link, https://www.youtube.com/wat... As you can see, Sony showed more TLG looking THE SAME in 2009... if Microsoft did that with a game, Sony fans would be insulting it thousands of times over, possible for years. Suddenly last-gen rendering tech that looks dated doesn't matter to Sony fans?
A BIG part of E3 is the shock value of announcements. That's what a lot of us really get excited about. Sony unleashed the dream line up, that trinity of game announcements that just a few days ago seemed so far fetched. They went nuclear and they needed to in light of MS's extremely robust show and their own megatons. However, we have to be careful here because there is a distinct danger of FF7 having a late release. We know how SE can drag their heels. Then there's Shenmue actually delivering on the stratospheric heights of hype that have generated over the years. We really need concrete release dates of these games but on the face of it, the E3 show was simply wonderful. Don't expect such a great show for a while.  Oh and their games impressed a lot too. Horizon looks astonishing and Uncharted 4 removed my doubts about the visuals of the game. It is so much more than that. Really really good time to jump in on the PS bandwagon if you haven't done so. Their 2015 lineup is a beat weak AAA exclusive wise for the latter half of this year for me but that's not too much of an issue when so much greatness awaits.
How can i agree to this comment 10x times ?!
Couldn't agree more dude. As far as E3 goes I remember it being about the announcements themselves regardless of the release date. The live stage demos for Uncharted,Horizon and the Last Guardian were amazing and to top it of they announce games that mean so much to fans. It's obvious that their first party line up is sparse this year because even Sony has admit it to that.One can't discredit those announcements simply because the games aren't coming this year -_- like really? Freaking FF7 remake got announced and Shenmue III is going to be made and announcements like those have an impact whether people like it or not.Those are bombshells and we haven't seen them in E3 in a long time.
Agree 100%. Another factor is it doesn't really matter if Sony's AAA exclusive department looks a bit weak at the end of this year when the 3rd party lineup is so incredible. There are enough smaller exclusives on PS4 to keep people happy.
Pfft.. who needs exclusives in 2015 when you can die in Bloodborne the entire year :P. Overall completely agree with you bro.
PS4 in 2015 still has: Persona5(my most wanted overall game ahead of Battelfront/Fallout) DQH Until Dawn Everyone's gone to the Rapture Tearaway
Plus many things not in the show like Rachet& Clank or the Drake collection announced a few days before or even SFV which was not at E3 last year
Sony dropped the Ultimate announcement. The Final Fantasy VII Remake. It is the ultimate announcement, one that fans have waited for almost 2 decades. There won't be another game announcement of that magnitude for years to come. And for Sony to just drop that announcement into the middle of their press conference, like it's just another game on their list, just goes to show just how strong their E3 was. Nuclear
Really? A remake of a 20 year old game is the best announcement ever? Better than when it was originally announced? Nothing beats the first playthrough... I can't think of a single remake/remaster that thrilled me more than the original. I'd rate 'Agent' as a better get... THAT would have been impressive.
@poppinslops Your forgetting something though, FF7 was 18 years ago, some gamers have never even played it let alone heard of it. This remake is big because it gives the younger gamers a chance to play a truly truly great game and it's good for us golden oldies because we get to relive a masterpiece of it's time with a modern take. I still have the original PS1 copy, the PSN version and the PC remaster, i will definitely be getting this one as well.
@poppinslops A remake of a 20 year old game is the best announcement ever? Better than when it was originally announced?" Uhhh yes...when it originally was announced no one knew that it was going to be hailed as one of the greatest rpgs, and didnt have better than a decade of people BEGGING for a remake...so yeah this announcement was way beyond what youre making it out to be
I'm still way more excited for Final Fantasy XV... aren't you? It looks like a truly fresh take on the FF template and it will almost certainly be released before the VII remake.
FF7 made me want a playsatation and got one. I didnt think much of wanting a remake, but if u follow gaming news u know, that many fans wanted a remake. but there was no new of a remake. then u get some.... my excitement came from that with no negative take on it.. peeps r finally getting what they want.... be happy for others...
The problem with Sony's E3 is that a lot of those games are for 2017 and beyond. FF7, Shenmue 3, Horizon: Zero Dawn, etc...
So, when you were in the last Guerrilla Games board meeting and they said they were releasing Horizon in 2017 how did you react?
been hearing this argument alot! Since when has E3 been about introducing games that are coming out this holiday season or any specific time?
Not me. I thought it was the worst show ever. Couldn't care less about a kickstarter sequel to games I never played, FF7 isn't a good game anymore by today's standards, and the Last Guardian looked super disappointing to me. Horizon looked potentially cool but it's a long way off, and Fire Watch was interesting. Then they bought a bunch of timed content, including CoD maps, the exact thing Sony fans used to consider the worst practice in the world. I thought their conference was embarrassingly terrible, (like almost "Usher and Kinect" terrible), but that's just my opinion.
AC and COD were my least favorite part of the show! activision had no press conference?
"FF7 isn't a good game anymore by today's standard" You're right. It's actually better. The standards for video games have gone downhill since last gen. FF7 has them all beat in terms of story, presentation, and overall fun. What's funny is that FF8 is often a close contender to being the best FF ever made, and by extension is also one of the best games ever made. About the only thing better by today's standards is the graphics, but graphics don't matter right? There is a reason that it is considered one of the best games of all time, and not many games have gotten that distinction last gen or current gen. If you can't see why the remake is such a big deal, and if you can't see why people are finally happy to see TLG, and if you can't understand the pure pleasure that people have over Shenmue 3 finally being announced(regardless of how it's coming), then you only prove yourself to be someone who really doesn't care about games, but only cares about playing into this stupid console war. If you can't get excited about games that are coming because they may be a ways off, then that's just sad. You've been touting up ROTTR, Halo, and GeOW for over a year now, so why does Sony not impress when they show games that may be a ways off?
I love games. I just don't like the games you like, apparently. Sorry. I don't like Final Fantasy. Never played Shenmue. And the Last Guardian, which I've been anxious to see, looked like turds.
It's fine to not like the same kinds of games as other people, but to claim their conference was "embarrassingly terrible" due to your opinion is just showing that you don't really care about games. You have no empathy towards seeing how this was a great show because your personal opinion is clouding reason. I didn't like everything that was shown at all the conferences, but I can see why they are significant because I like games, and I know that my opinion isn't the only one that matters. Very little was shown at MS conference that really engaged me, but I didn't think it was embarrassingly terrible. I knew there were others that enjoyed what they saw, and I knew the significance of some of the announcements they made, and overall, I think they had a great conference. And lets face it, your comment history which is usually pro-MS/anti-Sony doesn't do you any favors when you try and seem impartial.
People were asking for those 3 games for ages and suddenly Sony delivered them all in 1 shot.
To be clear - they just went nuclear! o.0
It was more like a comet wiping out the dinosaurs again when Sony announced the Final Fantasy 7 remake, as well as Shenmue 3 and The Last Guardian To think there 's going to be no more rumours and speculation about these games anymore That only really leaves Half Life 3
But sony had nothing to do with Shenmue 3. It literally was a link to their kickstarter. Not knocking the announcement it was the best one at E3 for excitement. To link it to Sony because they helped promote it seems off. Still excited for Shenmue 3.
@DL it came out last night that Sony is supporting Shenmue. $2 mill isnt nearly enough to majpke a game like that
@DL It's being made for the ps4 and pc. Hence it is a console exclusive to sony, which means it is linked to sony.
@Uh So this seems a bit manipulative to use kickstarter while getting funded by Sony... wow.. just read the news. Sad... Reminds me of Oculus and facebook. @Johndoe I wasn't aware Sony needed to Kickstart their games.
3 out of 4 of their bombs are 2 years away.. It was very clever marketing and they won e3 with it, but it was all fake and marketing bs. It was genius.
You started off well and then just took a nose dive in the latter part of your comment. What is fake regarding this? FF7 is not being made? Shenmue is not being made? TLG is not being made?
According to him they are fake because they are 2 years away as he say. I don't even know what to say to this
I think he was trying to say they were pulling some slight of hand sales tactics. Leaving us with a happy aftertaste and a warm feeling. While we wait for a decent stretch before we see or play the games.
Shenmue III is actually 2 years 5 months away at the earlest because it says fall 2017 as an expected delivery date. So it is possible that it could slip to spring 2018.Did they announce a date for FFVII? As much as i want to play those game, i hope this is not going to be one of those scenarios (Alan Wake, Last Guardian, Quantum Break, FF Versus 13) that years after originally unveiled, in this case 2018 E3, we will be glued to our sets shouting and screaming at delight at the gameplay reveal of these games when we should have been done with it a long time ago. I seriously hate games being announced so early.
Then one shouldn't complain when new things aren't being announced so often then. Games take a while to be made. You either be patient and wait or get early announcements that eventually don't come out as fast as you would like. @green never said you did. I'm generalizing because as you can see so many people have been complaining about how Sony wasn't announcing games left and right at the begging of this generation.
@dboyco310: "one shouldn't complain when new things aren't being announced so often then" I never have and never will. I like to know about games i will play in the immediate future. At most, 18 months away. If otheres like to know what games are releaseing in the next decade, then fine by me. But for me, i do not want to know.
^^^^ Stay off gaming sites then, that way you can just walk into a game shop "HOLY SH!T, Final Fantasy 15 is out"
While I agree to some extent with your issue of early game announcements in the case of FF7 remake and Shenmue 3 I rather know now when they are still quite a bit away instead of having to sit through one or two more E3 conferences and hoping that these games are being made.
Wont waste my time responding to the likes of Hellsvacancy. @orangePowerz: Thanks for the mature response. Yes Shenmue III is a great announcement. I played the original on Dreamcast in 2001 and the sequel on the original Xbox so i am a big fan. Immediately i heard the news, i went on kickstarter and pledged my support towards the game. But was really dissapointed to see end of 2017. What even made it worse for me is that i just can't help shaking this feeling off that the game would most likely be a 2018 release. As they truly could not raise the remaining $2 millon on their own and had to go via kickstarter, then i can understand the reason for the early annoncement. But ifnot and it is just a PR stunt, then i am dissapointed with the very early announcement but still happy that it is getting released. For me, i have seen too many times getting hyped up for games announced at E£ only to wait years and years before i finally get to play it. Announce it when it has reached a hefty development goal of around 40% completion.
Them not coming out this year is irrelevant. They are being developed and that's all that matters.
@dboyc310 "Them not coming out this year is irrelevant. They are being developed and that's all that matters." No, You are wrong, if it was irrelevant, consumers wouldn't feel disappointed or angry when a game that's being developed takes years and even suffers delays. Its relevant, to you? No. But it is a "Relevant" concern to some, many game consumers.
@mananimalx The excitement that was met with those announcement say otherwise. People just care that the title is beign worked on. Them not releasing soon doesn't affect the impact that the announcement carries.
If people feel disappointment for a game taking years to develop then that's kind of on them for making up their own expectations. It's pretty common knowledge how long it takes to make games among most forum goers, so if someone expects it sooner, that's their problem. If it suffers delays, then well, they have a right to be disappointed, but for the time being, until that happens, it's not something for them to worry about. Since no release data has been given for FFVII, it's not possible to delay it yet. Shenmue 3 you may have a point, but given the dev team, and the engine, and the fact that pre-prduction was done over a decade ago, it will likely come out on time. It seems people are projecting their concerns a bit too early. The remake obviously has some places where people would like answers to things they may be concerned about, but for the time being, it's OK to be excited, because the game is a couple years away.
Sony have so many fanboys and fan sites who would claim 'victory' regardless. Do you seriously think they would say xbox won if xbox hit out with a remake of a game that's a while away, a kickstarter plea for a game that hasn't started production, and short gameplay on a game that was announced 8 yearsa go. Xbox would have been slated from pillar to post for that !
There is a reason people are psyched. You talk like these titles are just any other regular titles. -TLG is a spiritual successor to ICO/Shadow of the colossus -FF7 Remake is a freaking remake to one of the best gaes of all time -Shenmue III a long awaited sequel to a beloved franchise Microsoft doesn't have games that reach that caliber. They simply just don't.
Fantastic for many, but at e3 many of us prefer to hear about the near future. I have a ps4 myself, so shenmue is of interest as i loved the first on sega dc. I just feel sony used cheap stunts to disguise the lack of near future plans.
" many of us prefer to hear about the near future" Why do you watch E3 then? Most games announced there aren't for the near future, but are almost always a year or two away. Occasionally we get an announcement of a big game releasing soon...like Sony did with LBP3 and Bloodborne last year, but more often than not, it's showing games releasing soon that we already know about, or announcements of games releasing well into the future...sometimes 3+ years in the future(The Division, TLG, etc). If you want news about stuff releasing in the near future, just use the internet. There's plenty of info there, because the lead time for E3 to the holidays isn't really far enough ahead to market a game to it's full potential.
Sony : "I'm Nuuuuclear, i'm wild."
Sony blew the roof off the mother!...
They delivered the games that I wanted to see and hear about. I don't think that E3 will ever be topped.
Really! FF7 will be a remake of the ps1 game, go play it and dream of the graphics, Wait till you see it. S3 was there to get huge publisity and attention so chill I like what they did. but why sony didnt do anything to it and make them go kickstarter is stupid. in terms of guaridan. the same recipe works. i'm guessing its ai controlled.
""S3 was there to get huge publisity and attention so chill I like what they did. but why sony didnt do anything to it and make them go kickstarter is stupid."" http://n4g.com/news/1743745...
YOu don't think that the KS led to a huge social media campaign that gave the game instant hype beyond what they could have achieved by just announcing it? Imagine all the people who are now wondering what Shenmue is? When they go to look it up, they now see how well liked and respected the series was, and how it ultimately never got finished because of Sega. That makes people sentimental, even if they never once cared about the game. When people see others having an outpouring of support for something, that makes them feel the same way. In a way, it's a brilliant marketing move, because they made the game into something the fans can feel a connection to, and that only brings in more interest for the game in the long run. At the end of this week, it'll be interesting to see what the highest trending social media topics are. I'm wagering it will be Shenmue 3 and FF7 in the top 2 spots.
They could've saved Shenmue 3 for next E3, that game is way off, think 2018-2019. Instead we've got to listen to "Where is Shenmue 3" each year from now on.
Sure and delay the game even further by delaying its kick starter. Smart thinking.......
3 nice firecrackers no more FF7 remake , a game last seen 18 years ago. A game who development was uncertain. Plus a bunch of timed DLC with 2 new IP's . Am going to say white noise.
Last year FF7 was announced just as a HD remaster with the same old graphics and now as an remake???!!! I think that this game is 3 years away from release, no gameplay shown. Shemmue 3 also 2,5 YEARS away from release. Last guardian... After 6 years and 2 years ps4 time they couldn't show actual gameplay?? Sounds strange to me Sony announces many games only with trailers to keep their fans waiting and waiting... Remember silent Hills where the fanboys told that Sony won alone with the gameplay trailer??? Game is cancelled now, lol
Excuse me but how wasnt The Last Guardian showcase and actual gameplay? Because it was linear? If so, you may want to know that the reveal was like right at the begining of the game (or so I would asume) based on one of the interviews. It wasnt much but it was first ever gameplay, thats for sure.
They did show gameplay of the TLG though, it was like 10 minutes long to boot. Shenmue 3 I agree is a long way off, but at least it's happening. FF7 remake apparently started production last year according to SE (hence the shift in staff) I don't see any reason to be unhappy about good games being made. I mean I'm excited for those 3, I'm also excited for the new gears and yarn yoshi.
Definitely one of the best Sony's E3 conference ever. I am looking forward to FFVII remake, Horizon, TLG, Shenmue 3, and Uncharted 4.
I can play the same game. Halo, Gears, Forza and Fable nothing new and no one is talking about them. No trailer blown anyone away. Losing impact with each year coming out. Rare games are at best average BC was nice at launch, When we didnt have any games, but two year later... Tomb raider is time exclusive and the trailer was full of QTE... Hololens or VR whorever... new controller that cost 130? Minecraft...
Some fanboys here are really in denial, it's funny and sad at the same time, a few examples why Sony had the best conference and also the best exclusives: The Last Guardian for the next year ( a Team ICO game, if you never played it, too bad) Horizon for the next year ( a new ip and a huge open-world rpg, the best new ip from the entire show) Final Fantasy 7 remake ( need to say more?) Shenmue 3 ( finally someone talked about it, and Sony will help the project too) Dreams ( a new game made by Media Molecule, a really creative studio) Star Ocean 4 ( JRPGS are back!) World of Final Fantasy ( looks really fun) NieR ( Platinum it's making for SE, exclusive for PS4) Ratchet & Clank ( amazing gameplay, another great exclusive) Street Fighter V ( it's SF V) Tearaway: Unfolded ( a masterpiece from Vita, now for PS4) Dragon Quest Heroes ( will be released for the West, exclusive for PS4) Persona 5 ( impossible to control the hype for this game, can't wait) Tales of Zestiria (another great jrpg) Uncharted 4 ( words can't express the last gameplay) And so, so many series will still be released in the future, big hits like God of War and Gran Turismo. But hey, you guys are right, PS4 only has dlc exclusive content and no exclusives. ^^
A lot of great games however you are wrong about ff7 it's not exclusive per say. It's also going to ios and android... Don't know about x1 but I do know I don't need a ps4 in order to play it on my tv
The steam version of FF7 is going to ios and android, the remake is coming to ps4, and most likely pc only.