MWEB GameZone writes: "Ubisoft had a great showing at their E3 press conference, but they made one big blunder when it comes to South Park: The Fractured But Whole."
Its true, Ubisoft had a great show. I'm not a particular fan of Southpark, so, on balance, Ubisoft are still in my good books. I think PS3 and 360 being ignored going forward is going to happen more and more.
It definately is and for me it makes sense when a game runs on a next-gen engine that requires a lot of power, but for a game like SP, its a bit strange. Especially since the 2014 release didnt come to current-gen
It costs money with licensing, disc pressing, distribution, advertising etc. They also have to actually port the game's code over to these machines, and possibly downgrade some things for performance. It's probably not worth the investment, you can be sure they've at least done a SWOT analysis on it. And as an aside, it's been nearly 10 years. Let the old consoles go.
It would just end up costing Ubisoft more for a cross-gen game. To be fair, Ubisoft is the only company looking ahead. A good amount of new releases are still cross-gen. Call of Duty, BF:Hardline, Resident Evil HD, complaints of 7th gen dragging out for too long is what lead to the 2013 release of the PS4/X1
Meh, I got what I wanted from E3 - Ubisoft's offerings isn't amongst that...
True, there were many better showings, but your profile pic :) #just saying :)
Ubisoft had an excellent show in my book. For Honor was one of the top three new game announcements at E3, IMO. I'm also really looking forward to Ghost Recon Wild Lands, The Division, AC Syndicate and South Park TFBW.
Ridiculous. Everything has to end at some point and now is the time for old gen to be retired. Ubisoft aren't the first, and saying the game looks the same isn't a justification for keeping it on old gen.
Seriously. I can't wait to play it on pc. Am I going to bitch that it doesn't look better on pc then on xbone or ps4? Heck no! A game like this cohld probably run on the wii u. Why aren't people bitching about that? 360 and ps3 are dead. Get over it.
Ubi have done the right thing why restict your self. Their biggest bunder was no bgae2!!!!!!!!
who cares about last gen. stick of truth ran terribly on consoles considering how those games looked. I guess the devs could be blamed for making such bad console ports but at the end of the day those consoles are too weak.
why would they release this game on old-gen hardware, increasing the production costs to target a shrinking audience? are you going to complain for each new game that is releasing on current gen and not old-gen consoles? of coarse you aren't, so why this game?
Awh, having a sad that a game wont be on a 10 year old console. Time to upgrade... Or just run it on an ancient PC. It is NOT a demanding game. They made the right decision here.
Doesnt this come down to who is working on it? If i remember right obsidian made the stick of truth. Now South Park studios is working directly with Ubisoft who for all you know inly has a team that works with new generation hardware. Maybe its the fact it wouldnt make good business sense to get another team or wait for another team who is probably working on an old hardware game when they can start developement and pump it out with a team that has just fin8shed another project. Anyways I dont see south park as a highly regarded game after they delayed the last game multiple times to the point where it almost wasnt worth buying because the new generation was releasing and it was not offered on the now current gen. I dont believe thats a blunder at all and think it would be looked down on if it hit old and current gen consoles as not good enough. Ubisofts biggest blunder was letting Lana Kain back on the stage for the what third or fourth year now... she is so bad and not funny.
Mere conjecture from an amateur. We have no idea what that game's going to do, there's no way to calculate the computing power you'd need at the moment, and I think the team would be much better off not trying to make the game fit older consoles whose architecture doesn't line up with their PC build nearly as well. This far into the console cycle, it would cost them more than it would benefit them, sales and all.
This is to be expected though. We all know the PS3 and Xbox 360 wont get as much love as current gen consoles. I would love to see all of these new games come out for these consoles, but at this point and time, I don't think it works for Ubisoft. They're probably ready to focus on just the big three now.
I think the author needs to realize that last gen is basically dead right now. With this game, we're talking about an announcement of a game. This game won't come out until next year or perhaps even 2017. Hell the last one was delayed like three years. I don't think that will happen this time, but 2016-2017 is too late to expect people to be still supporting consoles made in 2005 and 2006. Were we still getting top notch NES games in 1996-1997? Were were still getting OG Xbox games in 2011-2012? The author talks about alot of people not having the new ones...well at this point, not really. We've had about 35 million or so next gen consoles sold, so no... most people who want one, have one. Are there exceptions in the millions, sure. But you have to remember that lots of casual gamers simply don't care, and alot of those sold numbers for last gen were 2nd or 3rd consoles for people whose first got bricked and who may have bought a 3rd one because it was a slim version or bigger hard drive, etc, etc. Now juxtapose that against the fact that by 2016 or 2017, we're going to have another 20-30 million or more next gen consoles sold. It's also a long time between now and then for a console price drop. Either way, by 2016-2017, people really shouldn't be complaining that not everyone can play this game. These next-gen consoles will have been out for between 2 1/2 and 4 years (early 2016 to fall 2017). These consoles, when adjusted for TRUE inflation, literally cost less then half of what the 360 cost...and even less then that of the PS3. $349-399 in 2015 is like $199 in 2005, maybe even cheaper. We have 8-12 percent inflation year in and year out. We got cheaper consoles, almost a decade later. Also, these consoles might not last too long. It really wouldn't surprise me to see a 2019 launch for new ones. Not every generation will last 8 years, and by 2019, that's 6 years, which historically, would already be longer then average. If we went back to historical norms or 4-5 years between consoles, were talking 2017-2018 launch of a next-next gen.
So yes, we really shouldn't be upset that a game coming out 2016-2017. The latter of which might, but probably unlikely, to be a NEW next-next gen console year launch year. This is just common sense. We're already going to have videocards that are pushing ~13x faster then an Xbox One this year. The Fury X will be ~8.5 TFlops for $550 (not $3000), and it's the SHORT card version. They are talking about having dual GPU card of that short card version, which will then be pushing about ~17 TFlops. Now imagine three of those in crossfire, and you are literally going to have a ~51 TFlop PC, which of course means that some PC's this year will be about 40x the power of an Xbox One. All of this is on OLD tech, 28nm...mixed with first generation HBM. The 2nd generation HBM starts next year and that will come with 14nm FinFET. Now realize that this 14nm FinFET node is actually a DOUBLE NODE progression. They skipped 22nm. Which means literally we're going to see a huge jump in performance, just based on that, not to mention everything else like HBM, DX12, and the fact that all the transistors and other tech in GPU's will be half the size, allowing all those little ancillary performance boosters like stream processers and CUDA cores, etc, etc, etc...will have the space to be doubled. So no, overall 2016-2017 will be next-next gen on PC, with next-next gen consoles not too far behind. If Nintendo releases a more powerful the PS4/XB1 Nintendo NX, then this too will push Sony and Microsoft into launching a new console faster. Finally Ubisoft doesn't want to support old tech. That's why they aren't supporting Wii U anymore, and that launched in 2012. Plus we already have games which are selling great on next gen consoles, but are barely selling on last gen consoles. What do people think that's going to be like in 2016-2017? Even more pronounced. Some people just have to realize they are asking companies to support ancient tech that should of been put out to pasture close to five years ago.
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