When asked if the remake, in development for PlayStation 4, will follow the Final Fantasy VII narrative exactly or feature new elements, director Tetsuya Nomura gave GameSpot an ambiguous answer.
YES! Just imagine if FF7R comes with VII-2. I hope they show a gameplay or trailer at PSX!
What if they just add stuff to the beginning and end ? Then it wouldn't be so bad.
Part of the reason why we wanted the remake is because of the story. Gameplay... I'm not sure how I would feel if they turn it to Action RPG, but the story, minor changes sure, but overall plot shouldn't be messed around
I just hope they finish it this time, as they couldn't complete the original. Praying for Xenogears to be next.
This remake will be epic! The original was the most expensive video game of its time. Even the movie Advent Children's budget was like $100 Million, and took 3 years to make that. I can't even imagine how expensive this remake will be. Would not be surprised if it's around $300 million. Hopefully, this remake won't be a long wait.
@mabreu Idk ur getting a diagree. Because I agree with you. This will be epic. Even if they add things in and complete it this time. I trust Nomura. He was there along with Kitase/Nojima when this game was being made. Props to them for doing this. Hope things go smooth!
I wouldn't mind if they deviatw from the story a bit. I just want it to be turn based.
I think it will be turn baed. Just an evolved system close to FF7 with materia upgrades.
I think they'll add new characters such as genesis,angeal(i know He's dead),and some dude from crisis core at the end of crisis core 2 or 3 guys who dress like soldier 1st class pick up genesis they might show up in new ff7r
I might be alone here but I really hope they don't include Genesis in the ff7 remake. He's such a useless character and wouldn't add much to the ff7 story without feeling shoe-horned in.
think they will add some changes from the psp game and movie
What did Sydney say "You forgot the first thing about remakes Jill....you don't f*** with the original"
But think of it...the first half could be FF7 except Aeris lives, and then they could add a second life-simulator half in which Aeris and Cloud marry and inevitably separate when Aeris gives birth to Barrett's child. How does that not sound like fun!?
This was my first thought when I read the title. I wouldn't mind a story change as long as everything is the same EXCEPT Aeris lives. It would be interesting.
Aerith dying was a pretty important part of the story. She was killed for a reason.
"But think of it...the first half could be FF7 except Aerith lives, and then they could add a second life-simulator half in which Aerith and Cloud marry and inevitably separate when Aerith gives birth to Nanaki's child. Throw in some beheadings and necrophilia for good measure. Oh and it ends with them failing to stop Meteor and the world getting blown to hell. How does that not sound like fun!?" Fixed for you.
Oh yes, of course, Aerith. It's...been so long.
Key things from the first game has to happen. But I kind of new it was a reimagining based on the narration that was going on during the announcement trailer.
I think it may try to tie itself better into Advent Children. The reunion was part of what that was all about. OTOH, the reunion was also part of the original FF7, just it had a different context. I could see them adding in some of the AC bad guys so they have more of a backstory and don't just show up like they did in AC. Could also probably tie in parts of Crisis Core more into Cloud's memories. There was a post on how the narration was more about how the fans have been asking for it for a while. Can't seem to find it though, but gave a line by line description on why they felt that way, and I kind of liked that. But the narration also had plenty of ties to the actual game, so it may have served a dual purpose, or maybe people are just reading too much into it.
maybe its a way to leave it open for future stories in the "7" series should it gain any further momentum after the release
...this worries me much and stuff. Hope they don't mess it up or make so many changes that it destroys the game and stuff.
*sigh* SE, stop. Stop everything you're thinking right now. DO NOT MESS WITH THE STORY!
They could be adding in stuff from Crisis Core and even arks to fit Advent Children. Consider they might want to a spin off or sequel that is Advent children and want it to properly tie into FFVII. In order for that to happen, they must add a few things to make sure when they do a sequel or spin off, it makes sense.
No. I'm sorry but no. Them messing with the story in anyway is a bad idea simply because of what the studio has devolved into. They will not be able to resist to put their own stupid spin on it. Unless they add the Crisis Core/Before Crisis elements exactly as they were made in their respective games, and only in the instances where they would fit, then they should just leave it alone. I don't want them FFXIII'ing it up with convoluted tripe. And a cutscene at the end of the game can hint at a sequel or spinoff. Hell, they still did nothing with DoC's secret ending.
I hope they don't add too much stuff from the Compilation. Many of the additions to the FF7 lore haven't been all that good (especially the stuff from Dirge of Cerberus) or have outright changed major aspects of the original FF7 story. For example, Genesis being the person who tips Sephiroth over the edge of sanity during the Nibelheim incident. It's an unnecessary change that shoehorns a pointless character into a classic scene.
It wouldn't be messing with, in this sense, they've fleshed a lot out for FF7's universe so keeping the central pillars of the game intact while emphasizing and adding things to make certain of those pillars more meaning full is a good idea. I'm thinking this would be more of FF7:Director's cut things they never got to put in due to time constraints and hardware limitations. Think for a second... It's a remake of FF7 but it's already not the same... It's going to be voiced the cutscenes are going to be shot differently. .. Scenes the way we remember them Wont be the same. The game often switched angels while traversing the world... I'm pretty sure those will be far more streamlined to reflect modern practices with the industry, as FF has become VERY cinematic... I've played through 7 many times and thought Damn that angle in this section looks GOD aweful or man that section where cloud was having flash backs with sephiroth could have be shot better.
@Dragonknight if you think the story doesn't need changes you're wearing your nostalgia glasses. As much as I loved the story, which was explained well after 3 spin offs and a movie, the story of FFVII already was a confusing mess with many holes in it. And especially with the spin offs existing, it needs some changing to make sense. @ameliabaz while Crisis Core had fun gameplay and lovable characters, DoC had a better story and it tied in better with the main story of FFVII. In the context of the world, DoC story made more sense, the one winged monsters from Crisis Core felt out of place.
@Dragon- Me " In order for that to happen, they must add a few things" "No. I'm sorry but no" - Dragon K "only in the instances where they would fit, then they should just leave it alone" -Dragon K ...ok now, which is it? Is it "No" as if it needs zero changes or "only in the instances where they would fit" Soooo what did you think I meant? I'm very much saying to add things to make Crisis Core and Advent Children (if it where to be FFVII-2 or something) work. Never did I just say make it over all different. I don't think it will be all just redone just for lolz, it will likely stay very true to its original game, with the exception of clearly up certain things in the story to make fit with other possible entries. Consider when MG1 and 2 where ported to PS2 in MGS3 Subsistence, they changed certain things to fit what MGS is now vs what it was then, to have the story make much more sense. I'm very much ok with that.
I feel like square has been messing with 7's story for a while now.... crisis core and advent children included.
Read the article, don't read headlines
My comment is relevant regardless of either. SE need to leave the story alone. I don't care what they want to add, what they want to remove, what they think needs to change. The story is fine the way it is, the only work it may need is localization errors, everything else needs to remain the same. Nomura's answer makes it sound like, for the sake of not competing with themselves and in the interests of money, they'd change the remake's story just so it's not exactly the same as their ridiculous port. Well, scrap the stupid port. We don't need it.
This is probably the quote the article was specifically baiting from: “You’ll have this extremely, very, very pretty FFVII existing on the same plane. We feel that if that happens, it’s like, why have the same exact game?" It could literally mean anything and story isn't even targeted in it. People are jumping the gun with their reactions. BTW I do agree with the idea behind your opinion.
I'm fine so long as the story winds up even better, but there's going to be a huge shit storm for them if they take the remake and turn it into a dumbed down reboot.
I would settle for Final Fantasy VII with a close to the original story in an open world re-building of the original game world with Final Fantasy XV game mechanics. But lord almighty would that be a lengthy project. I don't want to think about a release date right now. Or the worst case scenario? They turn around and build FF7 with the layout of Final Fantasy XIII. Ugh. So many thoughts right now.
Yeah it has a lot of chance to be either like FF XIII (heavly story oriented and fast ATB ) or FF XV (open and action and free ). FF XIII-3 kind of game would be ok me (just between FF XIII and FF XV ) .
Considering the originals story was a little... off at times. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing.
Interesting. Maybe they won't kill off Aerith.
lol people would loose their shit if that happened.
Apparently people would haha. Look at my disagrees.
A few SMALL changes are fine, but they need to keep at least 80-90% of the story the same imo.
This would make for an interesting fumble if they decide to change it at all. In the case of Game of Thrones, it's honestly appalling just how much has changed from the book to fit the show (the sequence of events between A Feast for Crows and A Dance With Dragons is pretty weird, but Martin did mention the book was split into two; doesn't change the fact that the actual events occur in highly unusual ways). Martin did warn against the changes the show would inevitably have. Frankly, being a book enthusiast here, it does bother me. You're probably wondering where I'm going with this. Martin's vision for the A Song of Ice and Fire series was a victim of Hollywood suggestions and changes. Now in the case of Final Fantasy VII, if Square somehow manages to destroy THEIR OWN SOURCE MATERIAL, that would not only be incredible, but worthy of some prestigious screwball awards, followed by being blacklisted from ever touching their own franchises with nostalgic value. I'm being cynical and I trust they'll do the right thing, but I really hope they make this happen the right way. So many gaming companies are out of touch with their consumers and Square is often one of them. For once, Square, even if you only do a faithful recreation with redone graphics and voice acting, do just that. Please.
I can't wait to play this on my Xbox One.
A little touch up to the story will be fine, it'll kind of need it in some areas, but not the whole thing. It would be cool to see them include nods to Crisis Core, Advent Children, and Dirge of Cerberus somehow. Honestly though, I think we should be prepared for more of a re-imagining or even a reboot, than a 1:1 remake.
Yea honestly I kind of expect a bit of a re imagining as well and I am ok with that. I feel like it just needs to happen because you can't make a hugely ambitious game like this and not modernize it to a degree ya know?. You simply cannot just take the original and completely transition it into a new current gen graphics engine and be done with it because it wouldn't transition right. Square has the oppertunity to make the remake the game that they couldn't make back then with the limited hardware of the PS1 and add a ton of new features and make the world even bigger. You know they had to cut a lot of stuff from the game back then. Sorry for the wall of text lol but this is something I have been wanting for years and years now and it's finally happening and I have a lot of thoughts on the issue and I know Square has a lot of really big decisions to make about this as to not completely piss off fans.
Maybe the cities will actually be cities this time? lol It's awesome how they were able to give you such a sense of atmosphere back then, but you actually didn't have much to explore.
@AHall88: "Maybe the cities will actually be cities this time?" Yea if they are doing a current gen remake and spending an astronomic amount of time, money, and resources on this game then we will definitely get much bigger cities and towns to explore and that is really exciting. This is going to be a massive project unlike anything we have probably seen in a game before because you have to think that every prerendered environment from the original has to be completely redone in real time rendering and that means completely 3d exploreable environments. I have a hard time visualizing how the environments will look on current gen hardware because everything was so limited back then but that is the exciting thing. I have full faith in Square to give us an amazing FF7 remake. Again sorry for the wall of text lol.
I'm just hoping it's not turn base and more like crisis core combat.
What about the combat. I need answers. Would prefer NON turn based.
The original FF7 wasn't turn based to begin with. It used the ATB system.
Yeah I know, but I feel like they could do a lot more by going full real time.
Nonturned based? Thats what ff15 is for.
Lol, a lot of you are acting like this would be a drawback. I don't understand it, but I can safely bet that Tetsuya Nomura will incorporate XV's combat system. They aren't going to create a whole new battle system, of that scale, and then just toss it out. He doesn't want to waste all that power that they'll have at their disposal. Even in this interview you can already see it: "Nomura said through a translator. “You’ll have this extremely, very, very pretty FFVII existing on the same plane. We feel that if that happens, it’s like, why have the same exact game?" So either way, don't be surprised to see some ARPG elements.
Would prefer NON turn based??? are u kidd me?
Imagining the Cloud's Omnislash move on that remake glory........
Yea I expect all the limit breaks to be a thing of beauty as well as the summons and magic. I am totally stoked to see all of our favorite scenes from the game on the PS4 in current gen graphics. The motor bike escape from Shinra HQ on the abandoned highway, arriving at the Gold Saucer for the first time, Clouds flashback of his account of what happend at Nibelheim and all the other glorious parts of the game. One of the characters I am most excited to see in the remake is Red XIII with all of his glorious red fur and flame tipped tail. I bet that will be someone to behold for sure.
Click bait to the max Nothing even remotely close to changing the story was mentioned They made up an entire story from a vague quote
I'm up for a modernizing story. IDK how I would feel about Remade cgi cloud would look like in a ladies outfit trying to infiltrate the don's mansion lol.
If my random search on Google images is anything to go by, Cloud will make a very convincing girl in PS4 graphics lol... http://i209.photobucket.com... http://i.kinja-img.com/gawk... It will be interesting to see whether Square includes those scenes or not. Some of the game's sillier humor might be difficult to replicate with realistic graphics (e.g. Cloud in he hot-tub at the Honeybee Inn, Red XIII disguising himself as a human sailor, Tifa and Scarlet's slap fight, etc), but I'd be disappointed if they removed entire sections from the game because of it.
Should've known it was too good to be true.
Same man =(
I am more excited for how they remake the soundtracks , i hope it exceeds expectations.
NOOOOO NOOOO NOOOOO I just KNEW SE was going to do this, again as mentioned above I don't mind small scale changes or refinements example: making Yuffie and Vincent mandatory, explaining the origins of Jenova better However large scale changes they shud just leave alone I bet you any money they're going to put in their own little selfish agenda so they can make more and more sequels and milk the FF7 name so their zombie fanbase will buy more and more games cha ching! SE''s sheer greed will force them to heavily tamper with the story they will make Areith live to appease the Otaku NERDS who cant accept their precious Areith was SUPPOSE to die as part of the story. They will make Sephiroth different and flood the game with Crisis core characters and completely change the dialogue of the game to make it seeem uber cool and badass (which whud bee a shame) as I enjoyed FF7's qurikyness and humor I knew this would be too good to be true LEAVE IT ALONE SQUARE!!!
maybe they switch who gets stabbed or do away with the death all together and really piss some people off
My reaction if they change the story and combat http://youtu.be/31g0YE61PLQ
Don't mind at all. I know how Vii goes already. New look, new story, same spirit. That's all I'd want. As long as they keep the Materia system and combat, I'm game.
Tifa dies instead of Aeris confirmed!
Dont worry guys. They're saying this just so that you buy the port AND the remake. Milking
I have an idea for the combat system. Make it an ARPG where the characters can act on their own, but give us the option/ability to pause the combat (like with the ATB Wait), switch characters when they are able to do something, and issue whatever attack/magic/summon/command ability we want the character to use. This way we get the best of both worlds. Those who want an ARPG will have their ARPG, and those that want JRPG (turn based) will have that option to control their characters on a turn by turn basis. As long as I have some sense of turn based combat I'll be extremely happy.
I read the article and from what he is saying I think they are changing both the story and game play. I am paraphrasing here, but he asks 'why play the exact same game when there is a port of the game coming?' I hope the game play is turned based, maybe some minor changes to how materia and stuff works, and the story can be changed a litle bit too, cause the humor may have to be rewritten. The other problem that i see fans having is realizing that all the dialogue in the game is essentially a cutscene. And we know what the ADD (which is a condition i have but love cutscenes) generation think about it. So incorporating all original concepts without 20 minute cutscenes sometimes only half hour apart, is going to be difficult. If the recreated the game pretty much scene for scene and the spoken dialogue is rewritten to lend a more balanced sound to the ear, i am all for that. but if it is final fantasy xiii style i will be very dissapointed