Nintendo wants you to understand, but they don't understand themselves.
Of course these articles start popping up. This E3 was shite, however Wiiu still has more exclusive games releasing in 2015 than Sony and MS. So no Wiiu is not dead, it still has plenty of great games on the way, for now...
By this E3 i clearly mean Nintendo's E3
Big_Game_Hunters, sales aren't exclusive to exclusive games.
Nintendo needs to make a new console, but even then I don't really like their chances. Nintendo could be in some trouble. They just seem to be so far off of what core gamers are into these days. They are falling way behind the XBOX One and Playstation 4. No way Nintendo can compete with them at their own game. So I don't know where Nintendo goes from here. Nintendo hasn't connected with core gamers for decades already, and only the Wii motion controller fad saved them from facing that maybe they've been doomed for a while. Maybe I'm wrong but this is the video game industry after all, and it's about gaming, core gamers have to matter don't they?
Lightning Mr Bubbles Nintendo has a market that is exclusive to them, don't let the ppl who only buy a 3ds as a Nintendo hardware and refrain from a wii u fool u, Those ppl will jump ship to a new console if it was the only one to please their thirst for pokemon, smash, Kart & platformers in general.. Parents of 4-14 year olds will always prefer to buy a Nin console (3ds atm).. Trust me, they won't buy Morpheus I would say they got 50-60 million customers they cater for, specific software on decent hardware will buy them more, that is not the case as others who rely on 3rd parties rather than their own established franchises have a much much less audience, the 3rd party customers will always jump ship for better hardware else where, Xbone is a perfect example
Madock you raise some great points about Nintendo and their market. That said Nintendo is even pissing these people off with the focus on things like Amiibo. I am a fan but when I saw the blatant cash grab that was Animal crossing mario party that REQUIRES Amiibo... Good god they have lost it. Considering they keep supply artificially low on purpose, how would someone who wants that title even be able to play it. Hint...they won't. So they will continue down the path of nickel and diming and focus on toys instead of new software. We will miss you Nintendo. Now that they are pissing off their core, there will be nobody left to save them.
This E3 from Nintendo wasn't that good. Nothing new that we wanted to see.
Quality > Quantity
The article isn't just about that, it is about how nintendo presents themselves as a whole. How they treat most of their games (namely fatal frame 5 and devil's third) Trust me when I say I have played my WiiU a lot and will continue to do so. I have 180 hours in Splatoon
Wow, 180 hours in splatoon and been less then 3 weeks since launch.
Depend on your preferences though Wii U: Xenoblade Chronicles X _ Action JRPG Star Fox Zero - Rail Shooter Fatal Frame: Maiden in Black Water - Survival Horror Yoshi's Woolly World - 2.5D Platformer Devil's Third - Action Super Mario Maker - Simulation Mario Tennis: Ultra Charge - Sports vs Xbox One: Halo 5 Guardian - First Person Shooter Forza Mortasports 6 - Racing Sim Rise of the Tomb Raider - Action Adventure Gears of War Ultimate Edition - Third Person Shooter (Must be missing one) PS4: God of War III Remastered - Action Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection - Action Adventure Until Dawn - Survival Horror, Adventure Tearaway - Platformer Not counting indie. Nintendo has more variety. Of course if you add third party they wont but that besides the point. It all preferences.
@OtakuDJK1NG your spot on. In your list I'm excited about: Xenoblade Chronicles X Star Fox Zero Yoshi's Woolly World Super Mario Maker Halo 5 Guardian Forza Mortasports 6 Rise of the Tomb Raider So it really depends on what games people are into to what they want. I'm not saying the ones I have not listed are poor games they just don't have me excited like the ones above.
OtakuDJK1NG OK first, cool ass name dude... Second, you kind of excluded a couple games for ps4 this year, Sony's list of games is a little more expansive and varied this year than people think You forgot: persona 5, tales of zesteria, dragon quest heroes , disgeae 5- which all fit the jrpg niche and levels out Sony's line up with other platforms yet people always exclude them for some reason yet are quick to mention xenoblade Not calling you out or anything just saying the lineups for all 3 are fairly even
Which Nintendo is lacking....
Nintendo is letting it die silently so they can shift development focus to NX.
they couldnt fight their way out of a wet paper bag, let alone fight their way back into gamers hearts. the last relevant console they made was snes. now that was a machine. the good ole days.
WiiU total games this year < PS4 games this year that are not on WiiU.
The Wii U isn't dead. But it's definitely dying! After owning every Nintendo console since the original NES I finally gave in, last year and sold the Wii U and purchased a PS4. The simple fact is the Nintendo Wii U, has no FIFA, the last COD and Assasins Creed skipped it, no Streetfighter, no GTA5 and many many more. You walk into GAME and on one side of the store is a massive XBOX section and the other side a PS4 section, then hidden away in the corner is a tiny Wii U section. I remember when COD Ghosts came out, I went into Game on launch day and asked for the Wii U version. They sisn't even have it it was embarrassing.
I can't believe you got 40 disagrees for telling the truth.XD The Wii U is not going to die from one bad conference, and its coming lineup of games that we know about, like Devil's Third and Xenoblade X, was not ruined by it. The article header is sensationalist click bait at its finest no matter how bad the latest Direct was.
Dude, they even removed Devils Third from the future releases section on the eShop. They killed the game themselves, as well as their console.
Dude, Volnutt, it's coming out in August. The game isn't dead and neither is the console. It's ridiculous to claim that this one conference, which wasn't anywhere near as bad as E3 2008, let alone the always online debacle, is somehow going to kill the console. Especially when they've stated that they'll continue supporting it even beyond the release of the NX. Quit trying to bury the console for such a stupid reason, guys. The failure of this conference isn't killing the Wii U and it isn't making Devil's Third or any of it's other games degrade in quality.
Of course they will. Nintendo has no 3rd party support. But fire emblem and yoshi wholly world are not new announcements and that metroid game, eww. A metroid game without samus, that's what everyone wants to play, not to mention it looks like an n64 game. Lay off the drugs man.
The Wii U is pretty dead. You can butter it up with games that won't attract many at all, no name games no one is keeping track of, but the obvious lack of attention to the console is there. Any other thought process is wishful thinking and you convincing yourself otherwise.
I will probably do an article on the games I am picking up tomorrow, dead is more, figurative. More like they killed sales potential and overall outside opinion of the nintendo community.
Good point and sad if you ask me. I'm not even hardly a Ninty fan. I wish the Wii U and Nintendo can get a Stigma lift.
If you look at my blog I most certainly am not a wii U hater, in fact it is my favorite console (out) But the damage they did to themselves and the ninendo community needed to be addressed. I hope with the NX they get it right and off backwards compatibility, the Wii U is greatly underated.
I own a Wii U. I've bought almost every exclusive it has – which is most of its games. Not my fault.
Same for me, and I will continue to buy Nintendo exclusives. Can't wait for Zelda and Xenoblade, and always hoping for a new Metroid game.
I haven't bought current-gen consoles yet, I've always been a multiplaformer, and Wii U is my choice after PS4. Being adult with wife and child, has made several games from last generation left unplayed. And, hey, a lot of people fighting over resolutions and fps. Wii U is the console to play 1080p and 60fps ahaha...
Contrary to popular belief, a lot of Wii U games aren't actually 1080p 60fps.
yeah cause there arent a lot
I can think of like 1 wiiU game at 1080/60. That's Smash Brothers. Mario Kart is 720/60. What else??
Oh Mario Kart isn't 1080p then. But isn't Mario 3D world 1080p 60fps? how 'bout Donkey Kong? Aaa...nevertheless i really want to play those games... Who cares 720p/1080p when my TV is still 1366x768
best gamepad experience was ZombiU. and no Nintendo title provide any reason to be bundled for gamepad. I'm really dissapointed for that.
Indeed. Such a huge chance for new and exciting gaming - espescially cool couch coop, strategy, roleplaying games ... What happend to creativity regarding their own device? Also never understood why minecraft wasn't ported. Maybe because of the deal with Microsoft. But it would fit so well.
Did you forget about making blocks in super Mario bros u ? /s
If you read their E3 site you'll notice there is another Treehouse today at 6pm UK time that will show games that they didn't show at the digital event so let's wait and see what they show... And saying the wiiu is dead because of that Digital event is laughable they still have Fast Racing,Yoshi's yarn,Starfox Zero,Devil's Third,MarioSmashTennis,Project Zero,XenobladeX in the west,SuperMarioMaker,and I'm sure we will get a few surprises as well so not too shabby for game releases in the next 6 months... Also they confirmed Zelda is still coming to WiiU and will show a new trailer this year,plus the new NX will sit along side wiiu/3ds it won't replace them in other words they will keep supporting wiiu/3ds basically allowing wiiu to be a slow burner while doing a gamecube/wii stunt with the release of the new Zelda on WiiU/NX basically on NX more detailed graphics higher resolution/framerates but same game,and to be honest i think this will happen in dec2016,think of NX as Nintendo's most powerful Console to sit as a 3rd option for gamers...
Yep. Nintendo's fault. I can't trust them to support their home consoles anymore so I won't be buying another anytime soon.
Exactly. At least with the GameCube we everything a Nintendo fan could ask for. Now it seems like they are taking their fan base for granted. Star fox with no online multi-player, bastardized version of Metroid, no animal crossing for wii u, no option for voice chat in splatoon etc. They keep blatantly ignoring their fan base thinking we'll stick around while they try to chase the next fad. What iwata and miyamoto don't get is that might not be much to take for granted next generation. I for one am going to wait a couple of years before I even entertain getting the nx. Nintendo's fault not mine...
Gamecube was the best :) Well after the SNES.
Woah, there. I liked GameCube, but it did not have everything a Nintendo fan could ask for. Nintendo did disappoint fans with Mario Sunshine, a Star Fox spin-off and the controversy over Wind Waker. Third party support was adequate, but it was not nearly as strong as PS2's. It didn't have as many third party exclusives either. GameCube did do some great things, there is no doubt about that and Nintendo did offer some great spin-offs with Metroid Prime, the excellent Smash Bros Melee and F-Zero sequel, the original games such as Pikmin and took some publishing opportunities with Star Wars Rogue Squadron and Eternal Darkness. Wii U has a brand new Zelda game coming and offered a remastered Wind Waker early on. Starfox has returned and we're getting a spiritual sequel to Xenoblade X. Pikmin finally came back. EAD made an original game with Splatoon. Don't say Nintendo didn't give fans some of the things the have been asking for. Nintendo saved Bayonetta 2 and tok some other financial risks in publishing niche ip such as Devil's Third and Wonderful 101. Fatal Frame is actually being localized. Nintendo has also done an admirable job of handling DLC and giving fans Nintendo merchandise with amiibo. Say what you want about the supply and demand issue, but fans clearly love amiibo figurines. Nintendo's Virtual Console has been a disappointment this gen. but they at least did provide new titles and new platforms with a few games from DS and Wii. We don't know what is going to happen in 2016, but it looks to be a potential transitional year for Nintendo as it appears to shift resources over to its new platform(s), but we'll have to wait and see. For all we know, Retro Studios has a Wii U title in development that may come out in 2016, but it won't be enough to make up for a potential major software drought even with Zelda and Fire Emblem X SMT alongside it. The reality is not every Nintendo IP is going to make an appearance on every Nintendo platform.
I will probably buy the next Nintendo Console, but not when it's first released. No more pre-ordering anything for me. No more console launches for me.
never count nintendo out . It is important to remember theese days nintendos biggest announcemnts arot at e3 there more spread out year round. Theres was no mention of majoras mask or new 3ds last year for example
A huge part of E3 is laying a path for the future. Outside of Animal Crossing-Party, not one new WiiU game was shown (there was Skylanders with Amiibo, but it is such a lame 3rd party collaboration). Everything has been announced before and some have a ton of info out (like Mario Maker and Yoshi). E3 is to show off games to get new people attracted and current owners pumped up about their console. We got a ton of Amiibo stuff which is doesn't matter if the Amiibo is in limited stock and barely serves a purpose. Yoshi and Mario Maker should have been given a one minute trailer and release date like Xenoblade X, with more time on new games. I would've taken vague teasers over the 10 minutes dedicated to Mario fan videos and Yarn Yoshi amiibo/overview. The Smash Direct and World Championships were highlights, the Direct was disappointing, it makes 2016 look like a crummy year. Slapping Metroid onto Federation Fighters was a bad move, it's a slap in the face to Metroid fans like myself. The direct was played off of nostalgia, I want a bright future, not dancing puppets to the end of the year. 2 years since a Retro Studios announcement, where the heck are they. I waited until Mario Kart to get WiiU, I will not get another Nintendo console under 3 years, most likely 4.
Hmmm.... lets see. 2015 Wii U exclusives include: Xenoblade Chronicles X Star Fox Zero Devil's Third Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water Rodea the Sky Soldier Yoshi's Woolly World Super Mario Maker Mario Tennis Ultra Smash and thats on top of the already released: Kirby and the Rainbow Curse Mario vs Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars Mario Party 10 Splatoon Based on the facts, I'm pretty sure the Wii U is in fact alive and well. You can hate on their conferences all you want but Nintendo still delivers the win sauce.
Based on the facts the Wii U is alive in terms of 1st party titles. In terms of third party support it is dead and in terms of sales it is dying.
By that logic, the XBone, which isn't that far ahead of Wii U, is also dying.
Sales don't interest me in the slightest. I only care about great games and Nintendo still delivers them on a very regular schedule. Microsoft and Sony could learn a lot from Nintendo about scheduling and keeping their fans satisfied. Who knows when we'll get to play Quantum Break or The Last Guardian? But I can guarantee that this Christmas I'll be playing some Xenoblade and Star Fox. As for 3rd party games, did you not see me mention Devil's Third, Fatal Frame and Rodea the Sky Soldier? Nintendo is STILL getting 3rd Party exclusives in this day and age! I thought 3rd Party exclusives were long dead!
I a big supporter ofnNintendo but after that digital event I am afraid I'm done with the wiiU. They have given up on the system. I will hang on for starfox and after that it's gone but the way I feel I may just get rid of it. It might as well have been a 3ds direct.
I got rid of mine in Decmber and got a PS4, my first ever PS console. Very happy with the switch.
The Wii u died when they lost all third party support. Nintendo are becoming a dinosaur, stuck with a 90s business model. Too afraid to take on the new gaming giants of Sony and Microsoft . I've owned every Nintendo home console since the nes and currently the wii u too. The problem Nintendo have is they are miles behind the competition in every area. They were stung on their last dedicated home console the gamecube and now are afraid to go down that route again. They need to take their time get the nx right. Forget new ways to play all gamers want is a ps4 equivalent power, decent online and third party support with all the Nintendo Ip. They really need to get this right. Hold zelda back, get a new Mario, Fzero, pokemon and fire emblem bundle that with decent third party, get some first play exclusives. Then Nintendo will be back.
The third parties putting out crap ports year one did more harm than good. Let's not pretend otherwise.
Dead? WTF!? Anybody who owns a WiiU - like I fear a lot of the people commenting hear do NOT - and its library of exclusive games could not argue on it being anything other than a success. Yes, sales have been short, but like the Dreamcast and other systems before it, sales NEVER hampered my enjoyment of a system. Who knows how long any system will be in circulation, my advice would be dont second guess, simply enjoy the GAMES while you can.
"sales NEVER hampered my enjoyment of a system." but YOUR enjoyment of a system will NEVER save a dying system too.
How does the Digital Event not announcing any good Wii U games mean the system is dead? There's probably still gonna be 1 or 2 more years before the NX comes out, and those years could still have good games in them. Besides, the Wii U still has good games coming out like Yoshi and Mario Maker.
I've never bought a console for sales, just for enjoyment. I have a feeling in the long run the WiiU will be remembered fondly. Its an actual games console for a start, not just a mid range PC with a custom OS. There's nothing on either the PS4 or the Xbox One that couldn't be on any other device, you could port every exclusive from either to another console with almost no fuss at all. You couldn't do that with the WiiUs library. Games made for the console only really work properly with it. Sure you can port them, but soething is lost in translation.
I really wanted to love the Wii U - I bought one on launch day, and got rid of my ps3 and 360 thinking I could enjoy all the last gen 3rd party titles while I bought the new ones for my PS4 - then things went south and they were dropped like a stone. Games became extremely limited and the Nintendo games felt to rehashed and uninspiring. The gamepad is big and bulky and loses its appeal fast and having purchased a pro controller, was all but useless with hardly any titles supporting it. The Wii U is a huge fail and has all but been run into the ground with only the hardcore Nintendo fans defending Iwata's disastrous business decisions. I will be extremely wary and careful before ever considering purchasing a Nintendo console again.
Well said. The Nintendo we all knew and loved, the company that put out the fantastic NES and SNES in the 80s and 90s, is long gone. What really dragged them down was their obsession with cheap gimmicks tied to low-spec hardware, to set themselves apart from the competition. That approach worked (for a while) with the original Wii, but failed miserably for the Wii U. The gamepad gimmick drained a lot of resources away from the base console, leaving the system unable to compete this generation. It's hard to believe that Nintendo put much thought and effort into the design of the Wii U, certainly they didn't consider that it would not be able to remotely match the PS4 or XB1. In the end, they have only themselves to blame for the failure of the Wii U, and at this point they're pretty much done with gaming hardware for good.
The WiiU is such a failure of a console, not even the hackers wanna reverse engineer it to see what makes it tick.
I absolutely agree on the article title. I can wrote a lot information on why the Wii U and Nintendo as it is is a failure along side with arguments but fanboyism will block some peoples mind from understand it.
I didn't get to watch they're E3 presentation and I haven't read much about it. Everything's flooded with Sony, Microsoft, and Fallout news. Honest question, was it really as bad as its seeming to sound for the wiiu? I read some good stuff for the 3DS was coming. But haven't heard much about the wiiu or nx. Granted the nx will most likely be shown at next years E3 so I wasn't expecting much there.
idk about any of u guys but my wii U has kept me pretty busy i just picked up nintendoland, splatoon, and lego city undercover.. Im having so much fun playing splatoon I can't put it down my rank is 13 now and climbing ... plus zelda, star fox are on the way
no its not our fault its Nintendo. they havent got it in their thick skull that we have grown up
At least its better than what Sony is doing to VITA, that yes, its a pure disgrace, i am fine if nintendo only supports Wii u for this year, and next year, i had my share of wii u fun, and still have alot of fun to be had with xenoblade, mario maker, devils third etc, now the way sony is faking that Vita doesnt even exist, this is exactly the type of thing i hate when a company does, they have a good product, and just because didnt go has they expected they jump of the boat and let everyone sink with it.
No it isn't, it's the consumer's fault as it is always the consumer's fault No one told this generation to be obsessed with shiny graphics and on-paper console specs. The wii u got outsold by 2 remaster tech demo machines with shiny coats but they had Smash and Mario Kart that were the closest things to fun you could buy. The NX will bomb too, the childish nature of this generation of gamers will only buy a nx if it has 16gb of ram and runs games at 4k or it's just not shiny enough. I own all 3 consoles btw so i know what I'm talking about lol, it's just sad when the exclusives with those amazing visuals all end up like trophy wives standing there with dim expressions on their faces.
I've been dying for any news of a new Animal Crossing for Wii U then I see this toy selling piece of shit it makes me litterally want to cry.
Yep Nintendo effed up this e3. Still hyped for Xenoblade X. (though I didn't expect the release date to be as late as in December)
I think we can all agree that Nintendo is only for Nintendo fans. The people that bought it for 3rd parties got dooped. The Nintendo fans bought the wiiu already and that less then 10 million. IDK why its so hard for them to partner up with 3rd parties.
I think Sony had an excellent E3, but people are overlooking the fact that it has nothing major and new coming out this year for 1st party support on Ps4. Nothing to replace Uncharted 4 or Ratchet & Clank with. This is the second year now that Sony has dropped the ball and it is a real disappointment. What Sony's conference did was really show us that PS4's future looks bright,but its present year is looking fairly sparse for 1st party support. Going into Nintendo's E3 presentation, I lowered my expectations because Nintendo said it would only discuss new games coming out by early 2016. I was not expecting many games to be announced because of that limitation, and did not expect Retro to announce anything but did expect EAD Tokyo, Camelot and Next Level to make new game announcements, but only two of them did. Overall, I was underwhelmed by Nintendo's new software announcements. Nothing major for the holiday beyond spin-offs and most of htem did not look particularly exciting. With that said, I'm one that is still excited for Star Fox, Mario Maker, Fatal Frame, Xenoblade and Yoshi's Wooly World. 3Ds barely has anything of interest for me besides Fire Emblem Fate and a new Mario & Luigi RPG... so that leaves nothing for 2015. Another disappointing overall year for 3DS in my opinion.
Fanboy article just for the clicks and it worked, its got 290 here on N4G. These reactionary articles with clickbait headlines shouldn't be allowed. How is Fatal Frame finally coming back, a Star Fox reboot by Platinum, a Mario 2D game with user generated levels and a real successor to Yoshi's Island that actually looks hard and original unlike the last two Yoshi games, bad for Wii U? They have SMT x FE in 2016 and Zelda. Those aren't the only two games they've got coming folks