Despite being only about $50 a year, you have to wonder if Xbox Live is really worth the price. Jereme Puik from GamePlasma certainly thinks that this will not even be a question with the new updates for Xbox Live.
Are you serious? Who can't afford $50 for the year?? That's like then $5 a month!!! But of course it's worth it!! LIVE ROCKS!!!
For some of the younger or casual gamers, $50 a year might seem like a lot. These are just additional selling points for them.
It was worth $5 a month BEFORE Netflix. Now xbl is adding features... BTW, for the last 2 years Ive gotten my xbl subscription for $39.99. So that's less than $4.00 a month, Cant even get a cheeseburger combo for that nowadays. Ck Amazon, Pricegrabber & Dealtime for best pricing.
You all know that Netflix is NOT free right (Its actually overpriced)
$5 a month. To be fair, that's like asking people to buy a ps3 when it was $600. Oh it will last you 10 years. So you're only paying $60 a year. $5 a month. And yet people still complained at how expensive it is. I know this isn't a direct comparison but it's true. "So that's less than $4.00 a month, Cant even get a cheeseburger combo for that nowadays." Yeah that pisses me off. But Burger King King Deals are $4.00 :D
xbox live is amazing...besides tha 12 year olds who scream and swear on halo and gears of war......then i wish it was more then 50 bux so there parents wouldnt pay for it..other then that live is awesome and with the new updates coming...makes it THAT much better and yes this is going to make me finally get a netflix account...going to b great cant wait til nov for this patch
But online gaming has ALWAYS been free on EVERYTHING ever made before XBL and after. Like CPU gaming and PSN, for example. Think about it from the perspective of someone who ONLY wants to play with their friends every once and a while.
I agree completely. Onling gaming has always been free, except for MMOs (which require funding validly) and Microsoft. Don't think for a second that Microsoft needs that $50 a year from you; they don't. But they know you'll pay it anyways like a sucker. I can afford $50 a year but the principle of paying to play online is wrong. I will stick with free PSN.
but the service & quality was never this good. Live>PSN
Now that I am playing my PS3 online.. Yes, the Live system is nice and more put together. But I DONT CARE about netflix or avatars (what are we, 10?) and compared to the online gaming experience - the PS3 offers the same thing for no charge. So in my (new and improved) opinion - yes it is too much. Unless you just really care about avatars or netflix.
What is a PSN? I did not know Live has a competition. I kid, I kid...
I'm a Netflix customer and I'll just say that their online features suck. Only a select number of movies can be watched online and the quality is crap. Unless they add more movies to their online library and improve the video quality, I suspect a lot of 360 users will be disappointed.
It was easy to do it before they announced it. Besides I prefer a low power media pc to do all of my streaming to my tv.
Definitely worth every penny
Man are you brained washed. http://i289.photobucket.com...
Yes, the cost of a cup of coffee a day(USD) is hardly a steep price to play on the superior online service.
Make me purchase a netflix account this year and drop my game fly account from 4 rentals to 3 to offset it. I cannot wait for the netflix addition. The whole thing as a whole is Excellent.
give me free online play, and we could pay for netflix then ill be worth it already have enough trouble paying bills, and i dont like paying for online twice(my internet provider + xbl)
But the competitors are doing this for free.. lmfao.
And now Live for PC is free now too. So why would i get a Xbox 360 now? All the ports from Xbox 360 look Infinity times better on PC.
Free is better than Fee.
The addition of netflix, ability to install the full games to the hdd, etc, just totally made my day! My only beef with the update to LIVE is the stupid avatar system, looks so dumb, childish really, we were perfectly fine without it. Still, LIVE was already well worth the the price, now they're just giving us more bang for the buck, LIVE is still the best online service out there.
The avatar thing has thrown me off a bit too. I don't see why they can't just make the characters look more realistic.
I like the whole Avater system. They look playful and will attract a wider range of people then if they looked more realistic.
Its for the casual market im sure you will learn to love them later on especial when you lock-up a new Spartan helmet in Halo 4 for your avatar.
but still, if ppl have the options to put in elements from their favorite games, thats cool, maybe I'll be putting in elements from Gears of War, I'm a hardcore fan of that game, maybe I will like the system after all, we'll see. I'm just basing my opinion off of what they've shown us, which is CURRENTLY too much like the stupid ones from the wii.
It will always be wrong and no amount of fluff added will make it right. It doesn't matter how much make-up and clothes you slap on a dog. At the end of the day its still a f-ing dog.
It's not about whether it's affordable or not. It's the fact you're being charged to play online.
But I still think online play should be made free. The $50 subscription fee makes more sense for high-end features.
the only way the netflix(or blockbuster) deal is sensational is if you can download as a rent-ANY MOVIE they have. but this isn't the case. they are offering what any netflix subscriber can already get without the 360.
It should be free, psn is free and offers just as much. Arguably better.
You just said that the PSN was arguably better??? LOL
PSN is not better in terms of services. But for playing your games online - it IS better because it is free.
Something that I just found out about the Netflix service on the 360 that I didn't previously know after listening to a podcast is that in order to use Netflix on the 360, you have to be subscribed to Netflix first, so basically that's an additional cost on top of Xbox Live. I think that Xbox Live is coming closer to being worth $50 bucks a year, but it's not quite there yet. In my opinion, Xbox Live would be worth $50 bucks a year if there was no additional cost for Netflix on the Xbox 360. The way that I see it, the Netflix service on the 360 should be free for Xbox Live Gold Subscribers.
but it won't happen, cause, you know, netflix (like any other company) likes to make money. why would they give ms the ok to hand out their service for free?
Netflix looks like a good addition on paper, but I was browsing through the instant queue over the weekend, new releases are not on their so I am not sure how beneficial Netflix would be for me personally since i am only interested in watching new releases.
Don't forget about XNA
Yeah it sold like 1 million copies and microsoft predicted there will be like 300 000 users using it so there will be alot of new games made by users. (hopefully free)
No matter how many frills you add, it is not worth the cash. I play online and could care less about the frills. That is why the PC and PSN are so good, they are free and offer up what I want, online play. My question to the authors of these types of articles is this... If adding avatars and netflix to the service makes like worth the yearly fee, then what was live prior to the additions? Not worth it? Exactly...
damn 1 vs live is gonna be crazy
Of coarse not, online gaming should be free, just like the PSN, and I'll leave it at that.
Get some Blu-ray in your life. Stop living in the past. :)
It was worth $50 just renting the server space for my universal account and identity. Hell MSFT gives gamers so many deals we get XBL gold one month free cards all the time. I don't even keep track of the cards I just pay the "$50". If I kept them I would have an eztra years worth of cards. Only haters and lemming media outlets have ever made a big deal out of this. That Tmac troll is getting out of hand makes you wonder if that POS is Nasim.
Lol, Sony has everything Microsoft has and is doing it for free, there is no more excuses left for Microsoft, it isn't worth paying monthly or annually.
My favorite new thing that is worth $50 is the theater party system. I feel the Netfix Party system makes XBL worth much more than $50 bucks hence why the 360 sales jumped 110% last week, this will sell the console alone. XNA and the new Youtube games feature will also be hits folks forgot about those features. Nasim made a new account already the username is *Naism*, He's smarter than the MODs and he is laughing at them.
If you seriously can't afford THAT, then get better jobs you cheap bastards.
Live costs about 14 cents a damn day people. I have a Ps3 and a 360 and have had both for over a year. Psn can't touch live and anyone who says so must be smoking crack. MLB 08: The Show is barely playable on PSN due to the lag. I hear the Ps3 fanboys talks about lag on live and they are lying. I have been on live the beginning. I was an original beta tester and lag is rare for the most part. I just can't understand how people can just come on here and lie. When all else fails it is always the Ps3 fanboy battle cry "But PSN is free"! Bullshit!!!
but I know that on LIVE, I've certainly had experience worth paying $50 a yr for...
i think all those features will make xbox live worth $50 but i think by the time those features are implemented xbox live wont be worth it because home will be right around the corner and they will basically be equal with psn being a little more superior for 2 reasons...number 1 psn is free and number 2 home is waaaay more complex than any avatar or mii
You all do realize that you have to purchase a Netflix account to be able to use it on Xbox Live right? That's a purchase on top of a purchase for XBL usage. So, let see here....basic netflix plan is 4.99 a month, so let me add this up... XBL = $50 per year Netflix = $60 per year. So, for only the low low cost of around $110 a year Microsoft is giving you unparalleld online service! Not to mention the $50 a month you already pay for your INTERNET SERVICE. Woo, that's only $710 dollars a year! (assuming that your internet service is cable and no DSL or whatever). What's that? My PS3 allows me to play online using my already paid for monthly cable service? It also allows me the option to rent/buy movies and TV shows for low set prices while not forcing me to pay a membership fee for either the movie or online service in case I decide not to use them that month? Oh...that's much better then.
if ps3s home does turn out to be everything that it's advertised to be......and free........how can ms or it's customers continue to justify the 50$ cost?
Thank you all you fanboys who are worried about my bank account thinking $50 will break me and fellow live members....but.... dont worry I can afford it and so can the rest of the people on it.... Its great to see your care about us tho! ...funny how the some of the same people that will pay $5000 for an entertainment system feel so strongly about paying $5 a month....must be rough....
Go sell some drugs man or put your [email protected] on the street
It may be worth it. It's a great feature but it all depends on the person if the 360 is worth buying. If you have a PC that is fast enough to game on I wouldn't buy a 360 since all the biggest game like Gears, Lost Planet, Bioshock, and Mass Effect ends up on the PC. I would get a PS3 because there Exclusives stay on the PS3 and don't come to PC. You can download movies on your PC already also via several movie services. Even the PS3 has a movie service now.
To all the people who tried to justify the $50/yr or 4.16/month need to see beyond this price. I know i can afford it...but not everybody can pay (kids, students, no job) or needs to pay if the customer/gamer can play online for free when they purchase a PS3/PC. When XBOX 360 came out, you all xbox fanboys said...XBOX 360 is cheap, blah blah blah, PS3 is expensive. If its cheap then you guys should have purchase the PS3 in the first place because you knew that you can save more in the long run. So that excuse is non-sense. edit: Wow disagree already! Just a gamer's advise, you guys should demand that XBL should be free, don't allow them to rip you off. And another dilema, what will you guys do once the 3 yrs warranty is over? Pray and ponder it...think beyond. PEACE! $200 difference before and now its $100, i think the $50/yr XBL justification won't be applicable now. XBOX 360 is turning 3 yrs and you guys have spent $150 already, while PS3/PC didn't spent any centavo playing online. Now if you add up every thing. XBOX 5 yrs = $250 XBOX 360 = $150 (3 yrs) XBOX 720 = ? PS2 = $0 PS3 = $0 PS4 = $0 So who is the cheapest next gen console now? No lag playing exclusive games, updated firmware, XMB, HOME, in-game chat soon. What can you ask for as a potential PS3 buyer.
Personally I could care less as long as the online is fun...... but... you put up a point about not everyone can afford it such as kids etc and thats the whole point on of the biggest reasons I like xbox live is the fact that not everyone can afford it especially kids which helps keep a lot of kids from being online and ruining it....the online is already filled with retards that pay a fee....can you imagine if it was for free????? then it would just be totally filled with morons and screaming kids
every cent is worth XBL. Great service.. FULL marketplace with demos/ addons etc., best online experience with friends and others. I also have a PS3. I dont know how PSN is in the USA but in germany we have around 40 demos there and some other things. SOny dont makes a good job here. In comparision to UK, they have a 3 times bigger PSN store than ppl in germany.
Sony has a better XMB, they have Home, and they have a Video Store, so no, XBL for 50 a year is still a rip off, especially considering the life of the 360 will be at least 4 years, i.e. 200 bucks which is 3 disc games and 2 XBLA games.
SOny has HOME? Where? Sony has a video Store? ehm.. where? Like always PS3tards talk in future. And the best is, that you already told that in 2007 that "we have Home".. haha. STupid immigrants. Sony just got owned. Time for MS to give some devs more money to own the ps3tards once again. US politics > all
Sony offers just the same as m$ plus more with there amazing HOME and oh yeh.. ITS FREE
You don't care? Then why promote gamers to pay $50 then if you really care? I care because i want them to experience online game w/o limitations. Are you trying to discriminate kids or people who doesn't have a job? Why? you're a kid once so stop discriminating people! And if you really hate listening to them then turn off you head set or play with your fellow claN members only...easy solution right? 5 yrs from now, this kids that you are talking about will be the potential buyer of next gen console, either you like it or not they will have a place in the gaming community as they are the reason and driving force that makes the videogames industry alive.
paying for better was allways my choise
When PSN is free, and has virtually everything Live does (Netflix is extra, people), including not less lagged servers owned by multiple devs, it makes me wonder, why pay for something that you get can get for free? And the cost of Live on the 360 for wifi is even more expensive than a PS3. A bluetooth mic is cheaper than a 360 mic. Wifi comes with the PS3, but is an extra $100 on MS's system. I ended up paying $650 in order to pay for everything Xbox 360 offers that the PS3 already has. And that's NOT including LIVE. LIVE is $50 a year, which means that I've officially now spent $750 on a console that was supposed to be the cheapest. And that's not even including the games. Actually, PS3 has only costed me $630, because I bought it at launch, and Verizon Fios gives away HDMIs and Digital Optical cords for free if you need them (if you have their Cable Service). So really, if I had bought PS3 last year, I would have spent $530 on it. Instead of $630. But you actually save money buying a PS3. Sadly, Microsoft doesn't want you to know that.
if your running a Fios internet for your games I question why you would be using wireless in the first place.......since it would be a smarter choice to be using a wired connection with that internet so you can host etc....but whatevs.... its true tho they both get expensive with extras you may need
XBL is not free for a reason...why don't you just ask konami & their shlityy servers...or other devs who put up servers. It costs money to buy, install, upgrade and MAINTAIN. And the XBL = $250 for 5 years thing is just STUPID too. You don't sign a contract ya know. But that's like me adding the cost of ANY console + games that you HAVE to buy: PS3 $600 + 3 games (that's all they have worthy of buying) = $780...oh yea and extra controller $830...wait BluRay movies (the only real reason to one this thing) 25 x $30....get the point? It's stupid. But then again if you think $4 per month for a year is too much for the quality and service you get then you are just STUPID.
There are already enough companies all over the world in different businesses that want to profit off of me, and I intend to keep as many of them as possible out of my pockets. As long as I can game online for free, you can bet your ass that I will. Stupid? I don't know. At the end of the year I will have saved $50 more than I would have had with Xbox.
Is this true? Once a PS3 game has been out for a while and few people play it anymore (online) Sony shut down the servers thus preventing that game from being played online at all ever again by anyone? If this is true (not sure myself - just a rumour i heard) then maybe the Live £40 goes to keeping open all MS servers all the time.Thus you can always play an old 360 game Online even if its not to popular......... Maybe i can get a 'heads up' regarding this.