The Devil May Cry series may not continue if DMC4 Special Edition doesn't sell enough, Hideaki Itsuno confirmed in a recent interview
So they're putting all their hopes on a remaster.
it probably wont sell and that is their fault (not because is a bad offer but because had already its share in the market 7 years before) ...instead off giving resources making the absolute abomination which is called DmC and afterward try save themeselves with remasters they should have developed a proper DMC 5 sequel (made in japan) no matter how long would take ...idiots in CapcomHQ ..what you sow you harvest
Yup, just look at how poorly DmC sold compared to DMC4. Didn't Capcom have to readjust sales estimates for DmC twice to shareholders? I remember the game completely bombing and selling far less than they anticipated, even after they already slashed their sales estimates in half. They should have listened to the fans, and they should have let a competent developer make the game instead. Ninja Theory have yet to make a good game, and their arrogance and stubborn refusal to listen to any critiques of their game blew up in their faces.
DMC4 sold 2.5 million life time. DmC sold 2.3 million life time. People love to blame DmC as the reason, the truth is hack and slash games just aren't that popular anymore and shooters have poisoned the market with its deluge of over saturation. DmC is a fantastic game in every right. People didn't run out and by DMC4 and drives because Capcom also had to drop sales forecasts for that entry as well, and if you look at consumer reception in 2008 the run up to the release fans weren't really happy with DMC4, that's the whole Damn reason the IP was rebooted in hopes of giving a focused story and action that was manageable to fans and new comers alike. But who gives a hoot about awesome hack and slash games when the next generic shooters is dominating the top 10 sales charts month after month?
DMC4 was garbage to me, Nero is a terrible character compared to Dante. i'm for sure not gonna get this remaster. I'm not buying a game i didn't like another time.
Best selling Capcom games as of December 31, 2014 from Capcom's official site : 11 2008 Devil May Cry 4 3.00 millions . 35 2013 DmC Devil May Cry 1.60 millions no need to fudge DMC4's number downward to defend a game , that's not classy
DmC is not even close to an abomination, it was a good game.
Sony to the rescue! The very first game I played on Ps2 was DMC. How can Capcom repeatedly make poor decisions? They have to know fans have been patiently waiting for a real DMC. The people who defend that trash reboot didn't support the game and now our only hope for a real DMC sequel is a remaster of a ps3 game?
CAPCOM didn't listen to the fanbase, didn't listen to the market changes and now it's riding DMC to the ground. Ride it CAPCOM, ride it, loose the confidence in the franchise, destroy its value, it'll be easier to be picked up by the Platinum Games.
Am I seriously the only one that loves DMC? The game itself is solid.
Of course you would downplay the events of DMC 4, because you're in love with the reboot, Sevir. the worst thing about DMC 4 was the cutting of content supposed to be in the game, replaced by backtracking instead. Capcom shot themselves in the foot in that case. Come again when you're not downplaying the most successful game of the series. Oh, and if Capcom is serious about DMC, then they should release a properly made 1, 2 and 3 collection on Steam as well. The port already there is terrible.
Lol such a bs statement. Dmc will come back regardless if the remaster sells or not
Dmc was great. You don't know what the f your talking about.
Not just any remaster. A remaster of the shittiest DMC. It's like Capcom is using a double-edged sword at this point.
DMC2 holds that tital
3,4,1,2 in that order for me at least
DMC4 was my favourite. Can't wait for this.
If only the did true DMC with the white haired Dante. DMC3 and the original were classics. Probably one of the coolest characters since Learns and the wanna reboot it? They know best tho. R.I.P white haired demon hunter. Smh
That's stupid why should people have to buy a game twice for the series to continue. Now if Capcom gives us ominusha HD remaster we will buy it I know I won't be picking this up as I already bought and played it
What a truly stupid move. I don't want to buy it AGAIN, but I would like a new DMC. Some people really 'don't get it'.
What?! Thats bad. Hopefully Sony/MS fund them. Or just buy them.
Buy who? Capcom? Unlikely! Not sure MS will be too interested after SFV... They did shut the doors of Clover who created these games so it's no surprise that they're not what they used to be. Wish Bayonetta 2 came to PS4
Blame Capcom for ruined the franchise.Capcom and Ninja Theory ruined the brand themselves. Btw, I will not be buying this crap game because of Capcom ruined the franchise with DMC.
DmC was a really good game,If DMC4 hadn't been mediocre at best and Bayonetta hadn't out done it in every way possible DmC would never have existed. That said how Capcom have handled these resmasters is absolutely shocking. They should have released them both together on a disc for £25. But i guess the plan was to see which one did better, then continue the series in the direction of whichever one sold the most copies. Fact that it isn't a fair test hasn't seemed to have come into it though. both should have been releasded for £10-15 digitally by themselves and together on disc for £30 like Metro Redux was.
DMC4 is better than that crap DmC...
I prefer DmC:Definite Edition to DMC4
I agree with Ritsuka666. Ninja Theory have yet to make a good game and they absolutely butchered Devil May Cry. They can create nice graphics sure, and they know how to use color well, but they simply can't craft good gameplay, especially for the genre of game that they keep trying to tackle. The saddest part is that they honestly thought that most complaints with their DmC reboot were about how Dante looked, and not the atrocious combat system and weak gameplay. They're a terrible developer.
They've made three incredible games. I get that you don't like them, but I know many people who did. Enslaved was one of my favorites of last generation.
They'e really good at story, and design. Hell,they managed to turn Dante into an interesting and complex character rather than the paper thin mummys boy he was in the originals. And I say this as a fan of the series. Gameplay was actually the one part of DmC that Ninja Theory had very little to do with. they called in the guys that worked on previous entries in the series to help craft the new fighting system. So if you want to blame anyone, blame capcom. I thought it was simpler but still a lot of fun.
@wheresmymonkey did I really just see that? Did I really just see someone call the fanfic twighlight version of Dante be called more interesting? Like seriously? Compared to the badass, full of life and energy character of Dante. He wasn't complex he literally just acted like a douche the entire time. While the original Dante acted like how he should have been -an immortal demon Demi god, who loved pizza, didn't take life seriously(even though he should have) and was halarious.
Capcom allowed Ninja Theory to violate the brand and betray the real core fans and the original flavor of the series and twisting it into something totally contrary to what the Devil May Cry series stood for and how it was presented.
What was that though? Like honestly tell me. Because i've yet to find a 'core fan' Which being someone who's played every last entry in the series I think i am. From what i can remember of the seires. 1 was great, 2 was awful, three was brilliant, 4 was meh. its not story becuase its always been crap, you can't say its characters because even dante in 1-4 isn't a sympathetic character he's a walking cliche. Gameplay yet again the systems have been seriously all over the place. 1 was great for the time, 2 yet again terrible, 3 best in the series. 4 was ok. Kamiya was the guy that made DMC great and he now makes Bayonetta. you want the continuation of DMC as it was originally. Seriously go get a wiiu and play bayo one and 2. Its a better DMC game than either 4 or DmC were.
How was he a walking cliche? And not having much of a story is better than having a terrible story I'll tell you what's wrong. - changed every single character, not one could look or even act remotely close to the original. - they got rid of styles, sure they added the weapon swapping but that was already in dmc games before that these weapons though had better uses I'll give you that but the list of the style system puts it way down then it's weapons could ever put up. -wtf did they do to the devil trigger? Stops time? Like what? -he's half angel half demon now -totally demolishing the story where it shouldn't have even been called dmc and was only done so for sales. -dmc original was a lot more comical - controls were done worst than past games, couldn't do I a stinger for the life of me - protagonist reminded me of twighlight -nothing kept to the original comical badassery of dantes diolgue - the demons infesting the news and media was a terrible story and I would rather not have such a pussy ass demon which were never ever portrayed to be so slimy in past games. - vergil sucked -basically said f you to the fan base with the wig joke Luckily I got it for free on Ps+ I wouldn't pay for that shit.
I really hope it sells well. I like that they actually added some content instead of just slapping 1080p, solid 60fps and giving it a ridiculous price tag like other remasters. $25 for this. it's digital only but i still think it's a steal. Edit: http://www.play-asia.com/de... The asia physical copies have english dub.
but it will have japanese text soo... though i think u can change that im not sure but digital is fine with me i already have the older one as physical copy and i dont wanna spent money needlessly
This is capcom so..its as good as dead without another backer
So what they are saying is buy our remaster otherwise you will never see a new DMC.
Yea, basically. What a cheap and unfair tactic to use.
Hey, at least you're getting a chance to save your franchise this time around. I'd prefer it if more devs came out and asked for help to save the franchise instead of it just being killed off.
I'm certainly buying it. Why wouldn't they make a 5 though? 4 didn't sell as well as they wanted it to, yet they're remastering it and hoping it sells well? That doesn't make any sense. DMC5 is an easy financial decision.
Which is odd because DMC4 sold 3+ million to date, so its the most successful DMC title in terms of sales.
They are testing the waters and sales of Old DMC 4 Remaster vs. DmC Remaster. That very well could be the deciding factor in their direction for the future.
Doubtful ... i dont think Ninja Theory is going to look back anytime soon , if their hybrid self publishing experiment succeeds with Hellblade . And DmC was easily outdone by the Devil May Cry 1-3 collection already . Besides while deservingly praised for its changes , the DmC definitive remaster wasnt such a hot item , even if probably earning them extra cash like all remasters . I think that that ship is already sailed , and that yes Capcom is gaugeing interest as usual , but for the latest of the "classic" serie , namely DMC4 .
I believe personally they have already decided on the future of DMC series as a whole. Ninja Theory is not making the next one either way. One because they have Hellblade right now so nothing else matters to them and two because DmC didn't sell as expected. Even if they continued with DmC 2 they would find a new developer. Although personally DMC 5 would be better to 80% of the fanbase. I believe only a small faction loves DmC. I don't think it was too bad, but not quite like the old series enough. I am betting they could grab someone else like Platinum Games to do the next one. Just a thought.
You know Capcom are the biggest pricks on earth when it comes to money. DMC4 sold 3+ million for it to warrant a sequel, rather, they stuck their funding into DmC because it was cheaper to outsource development, and that had a nasty backlash. Also, i suggest everyone to reread the original article with Itsuno, it says that the more DMC4SE sells, the quicker DMC5 will be made, so it ultimately means that DMC5 is in some sort of form of development already, even if its initial stages. All DMC4SE will do is give them extra funding to finish the game rather than half assing their way like they did with DMC4. Did people remember Koyabashis interview with DMC4? Longer,more weapons, etc, non of which materialised. If money is so much an issue, start a kick starter campaign, dont beg us to buy your game. I am buying this game because i loved DMC4, not for capcoms sympathy. Idiots.
No thank you.DMC4 was the worst one of the series. Is it me or does this sound kinds like Black mail??Either you buy our game or you don't get a new entry.
"Either you buy our re-releases and remasters or you don't get a new entry. " ^^ Sounds like the typical Capcom Logic since 2-4 years. Most stupid company after Konami.
Worst one of the series? Nope. DMC2 holds that title. DMC4 has hands down the best combat in the entire series. I could look past the backtracking.
Yes if they didn't have the backtracking it would have been best in series. The combat was also stellar. They should have just taken more time.
Wow that is pretty lame for someone to force us to buy a remaster for a series to continue.
At least you get a chance. Most other games don't even get that. We don't live in a perfect, idealistic world, games live and die by funding, not what should and shouldn't be, not whats awesome, not whats lame. I sure as hell know that if the devs of some cancelled franchises I loved just straight up came out and said "if you don't buy our game, the franchise is dead", then I would have bought those games day one, but by the time I realized they were in trouble, it was too late and there was nothing that could be done about it, those franchises were gone, with no chance of saving them.
RIP Devil May Cry?
That's outrageous. I HATE it when publishers do this. It's a gambit that's only intended to shift a few more copies, much like when Ubi threatened that Beyond Good and Evil 2 would rely on Rayman Origins sales. Pathetic. More to the point, people would definitely buy a new DMC from the original team (you know what I mean, I know that Platinum/Clover aren't available), but might not buy a re-release of a game they already own!
Oh god, kindly p*ss off with the emotional blackmail, Capcom. How insulting to your fan-base. Just because people don't want to buy the most average game in the series twice doesn't mean they won't buy a new entry. But they know that, they're just trying to guilt trip you into buying more. I say screw 'em, for that sort of disrespect I would never buy this out of protest. Let Capcom die, the hamster on a wheel who was left in charge back at Capcom HQ is going to run out of steam soon and hopefully they'll have to sell off their IPs to publishers who actually want to make new games and please their fans. Imagine, DMC and Resident Evil defaulting to Platinum and Tango Gameworks.
To hell with you, Capcom. I'm not forcing myself on buying games that i have played a couple of hundred years ago, just because you can't get a decent game out. And yes, DmC from Ninja Theory sucked hard and that's the whole truth.
I don't even wanna buy it (but will out of sheer desperation). You f****** suck capcom.
So why are we hearing about dmc5 rumors at e3 then? Capcom, just shut your pr up....
Capcom are just playing with the fans of this Game, they won't let it die just because of that they will milk it with no end... just like they are doin with all they franchises they want to stress the fans and press them to buy the damn game...
Stupid move by Capcom. I like their bold move by rebooting DMC, it may not appeal to DMC fans but it's a bold move. Face it, Kamiya has left, the franchise in jeopardy...don't expect too much, the DmC is the best they could offer. After the four kings left (Inafune, Inaba, Kamiya, Mikami), Capcom have a difficulty in making action/hack & slash game...
Itsuno is the one you want to work on a DMC 5 game, but those who left would've helped as well.
all these franchises died once they left playstation exclusivity
Has nothing to do with that... Mgsv for example is going to be amazing, and thats multiplatform. This is more of a lack of staff who knows how to make good games as what Melankolis is saying.
Will get it instead of that other game this month
I hate this kind of blackmail. It's basically saying "buy our old game, but with more pixels, or we won't make any more DMC games." Fine, don't!
If they are gonna be like that about DMC 5, then just outsource to KickStarter.
So this is blackmail. I care about the series but I already played DMC4 years ago. Don't interested in the extras...there are so many games coming out every month...I don't even find time for them.
So what game itsuno do after dragon dogma ? DMC4SE look like side project than main project.
This is just as pathetic as the baiting Ubisoft has done with Beyond Good and Evil 2. "Well...maybe if Rayman performs well enough [while releasing in November between COD and AC]" "Well...maybe if Beyond Good and Evil HD performs well enough." Just a way to grab as many first week sales from the big DMC fans as possible.
Lol I love when developers do that... Nintendo is guilty of this with the StarFox franchise... If StarFox 64 3D didn't sell well, they would cancel the franchise... Stop shooting for unrealistic expectations for your franchises... Just make games that fans will enjoy, and if they don't enjoy it, don't blame your fans, blame your developers for not listening to fans...