Sony has revealed that it outsold Microsoft's hardware last month.
Who is buying a PS4 or Xbox One right now? Why in May? A month before E3? Couldn't wait for a bundle? Or a price drop? Honest questions... Do sales really matter when its casuals buying the consoles at this point?
Very few people, to be honest. But, you know, outselling the XBO 51k to 50k... it's a victory! Regardless, be happy both consoles are doing very well compared to last generation numbers for the same time period. Don't forget, we need the competition to keep each on on their toes.
It's selling that much while being fifty bucks higher.
OMG! Why didn't you say so earlier, TheEnigma313! https://33.media.tumblr.com...
Sony doesn't have competition.
If Sony doesn't have competition, then how did they lose November/December 2014 and April 2015 in the U.S?
True success is earned from the people not bought from deep pockets.
whooooooooooooooweeeeeeeeee who cares anymore great gaming a comin. im to busy having competition with online friends .
You're avatar is from Space Mutiny right? So you're a MSTie? At least you have SOME good taste.
@Chris I agreed, because it made me laugh. Thank you.
"If Sony doesn't have competition, then how did they lose November/December 2014 and April 2015 in the U.S?" I would like someone to answer this question please.
@Septic You cant be serious???? 3 wins out of what 18? and its most likely not WW lmao yeah its a tight race.
@Khajiit86: but it's still competition. If there was no competition, there is no race. But, there obviously is a race if 3 of the 18 races were lost. Do people honestly think that everything Sony has done since E3 2013 has been done just to make people happy and not to stay ahead of the competition? Did Sony rag on nobody when they made the jests about PS4 being DRM-free? Or was that point made to stay ahead of a competitor who had obviously made the wrong decision to tell gamers what they felt was right for them? Look, there's no question who is winning the race. But, that doesn't mean that Usain Bolt is just out racing on his own on the track during the Olympics. There are people right on his heels, ready to take the lead at any time, during any race, for any mistake he makes.
PS4 on top again. And it's still doing it without price cuts unlike the desperation of it's closest competitor.
So... sad...but so....true. At this point, Microsoft has to be thinking: What can we possibly do now to win consumers?
Unlike its closest competitor, they cannot afford price cuts as the are too broke and need every dollar they can get. Where as the closest competitor can hand out free xb1's and still have more money then their competition :)
@AussieGamer1 The Playstation division is actually making money, so in that department, they have no NEED for a price drop. Nice try though ;)
@Ben Dover LOL are you seriously spilling the rumor that MS wants to sell Xbox after they've invested 2.5 billion $ into mincecraft and heavily integrate xbox services into Windows 10? It was Sony fans who started the rumor because they can't handle the fact that microsoft got tons of cash even if xbox doesn't make profit. PS on the other hand is sonys only profitable department.
@Ben dover I love the suggestion that MS are selling the Xbox Division. If they were, they wouldn't be integrating Windows 10 back and forth between X1 and the PC, then going into partnership with Oculus Rift. The only minority voice that had a chance of ditching Xbox Division was Elop from Nokia when he was up for CEO but he screwed the pooch and as we all know it went to Nadella. It seems that the "Lets ditch Xbox" voice has been stiffled for the forseeable future. Lets not forget that MS are judging the sales based on last generation and to date they are doing better than they did before. OT: The sales figures are very close I have to say.
@moozie "PS on the other hand is sonys only profitable department." It's amazing that you criticize him for making what you deem to be an inaccurate statement then you go and say this drivel.
@Ben Dover (Ben Dohver is funnier), as your name implies, you're BACKWARDS. Those trying to imply Microsoft's plans could involve selling Xbox are the ones who are trying to keep that "illusion up" (probably for the sake of FUD). If you knew what Microsoft was working towards, you wouldn't think that, such as when Realizing how perfectly Cortana WideSpreads with XO using Kinect. The Xbox OS should migrate easily to faster hardware with all the features they have now, and more when they move to Windows 10+ on XO, thus I think CrossBuy between the next-gen is inevitable for easing the next transition to XO hardware that's then the best combined with the best software they're building now (Sony is doing that sort of thing now with CrossBuy on PS3\PS4\Vita titles). In other words, Microsoft doesn't have to win sales this gen to win the long game... most all of what they're improving this gen will carry over into the next-gen, unlike previous gens that used different architecture and lacked functionality, such as Universal Apps. Edit: @Ben Dover, as I said and speaking of how you get "owned", you're BACKWARDS. You must not have read that link, Quote: "Following Gates’ comments, Microsoft’s communications chief Frank Shaw was quick to tweet: “Bill’s comments re Xbox reflected support of Satya as CEO” — not support for a possible sale of the Xbox division.:" Obviously fitting with my first comment, as you say Doh! Ben Dohver really is funnier.
@Ben Dover Bill Gates doesn't run Microsoft. He stepped down almost a year and a half ago and spends most of his time dealing with his foundation. He does have the title "Technology advisor" at microsoft, but that's largely a "stop by now and then to make sure they haven't burned the place down" kind of job.
June, July, August and September will be easy win for PS4, things will start getting interesting in October though.
I bought a PS4 end of May, I got Witcher 3 and Bloodborne for £299, why wait until E3? even if the PS4 got a price cut it'll be no less that £299 without a game let alone two games It was great deal
That IS a sweet bundle. I got mine last year, with kz, iss and knack.It was meh, but i couldn't wait xD
Probably people who like to play video games and don't get involved with the politics on internet blogs. I know the concept is foreign to some.
Congrats Sony. Occasional they may loose a month or two at the USA, but normally they will beat the competition. The WiiU and X1 have their exclusives (so does the PS4), but the PS4 is winning the multiplatform games sales, and that is the deciding factor this gen.
Mystic- No MS doesn't, you are delusional along with all the other blind fanatics on here.
@Mystic assassin mind telling me where they are?
Congrats Sony now have a great e3 and rest of the year. June should also be ps4 month since batman has a bundle with ps4 and exclusive marketing with sony too The last guardian Sony bends new game rumored to be resistance Guerrilla games new lp God of war 4 teaser Gt7 And much much more at e3
@kiwi You don't need E3 too find good weekly game console bundles bro.
Still waiting for a bundle that will entice me to buy a PS4. I actually can afford to be very picky since I have a backwards compatible PS3 and a large game library comprising PS2 and PS3 games. I do have PS1 games and all PS3's can play them however they do look very grainy on a large screen HDTV so I rarely play them. Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your preferences I do like Action/Adventure/RPG's and many of the games I like take many 10's of hours to play so I am at no loss for gaming entertainment. So while I would like some of the RPG's (Bloodbourn and Witcher to name two) I also have many really good RPG's that I can play on my PS3 and some I have never finished.
@KiwiViper85 Most casual gamers aren't even aware of E3. If they've been waiting for a while to save up to get a console, they are hardly going to wait longer for an event they've never heard of to get out the way.
"Who is buying a PS4 or Xbox One right now? Why in May? A month before E3? Couldn't wait for a bundle? Or a price drop? Honest questions…" One of the biggest titles of the year, The Witcher 3, came out in May. "Do sales really matter when its casuals buying the consoles at this point?" Very silly question, that.
Why not in May? Remember, not everyone follows gaming news so may not actually know about E3, or even care. As utterly unbelievable as it may be, it's possible that people bought a PS4 or X1 because the time was right for them...
Witcher 3, man. That and the success of Bloodborne spreading via word of mouth. Plus - E3 was when a ton of people started their Plus accounts after Instant Game Collection was announced. PS3 owners probably want to take advantage of a renewing Plus membership on the new console.
And the cycle begins again as PS4 is winning June with the batman bundle.
Damn you :) …I was about to call that very thing
Very likely. I cant think of anything major for June on XB1, Sony likely will win up to October. With Halo 5s massive marketing campaign, I wouldnt be surprised if MS won October. June(Batman) through September(Metal Gear) will be Sony all the way.
Not to add "fuel", but I told people before XB1 winning april was a fluke. If you notice, Amazon had zero stock on the PS4 for majority of April. That played a big part in XB1 winning that month because when you have two similar machines, if one isn't available, many people will jump to the one that IS available. May, Amazon had no such PS4 shortage issue, and as a result, the PS4 outsold the XB1 again. I'm not saying in any way that Amazon is the "end-all-be-all". But it IS a good indicator for the most part.
I sense this was addressed at me. I personally take an interest in sales as in the end it helps either company attract third-party support and the like. I'm happy for ps4 fans that continuing that no.1 momentum is continuing to ensure good support, it does concern my slightly, however for the opposite reason. I should really say sales figures aren't the fuel. But somehow fanboys from both sides will jeer and speculate and throw figures at each other to justify their purchase. My problem ain't the figures, it's the fighting.
Addressed at you? No, I didn't even bother to read your comment. All I put out was a general statement from when I told people last month the reason XB1 won April.
Yeah, I thought xbone winning April was very weird. I mean, PS4 just had 2 AAA releases, was releasing a whole lot more in the future. The xbone was virtually barren for the entire year up until Sep/Nov, so I was asking myself why the hell are people buying the xbone more. It makes sense that the PS4 had stock issues after the boost in sales from Bloodborne and The Order. Plus I think MS had some ridiculous trade in deal.
"If you notice, Amazon had zero stock on the PS4 for majority of April. That played a big part in XB1 winning that month because when you have two similar machines, if one isn't available, many people will jump to the one that IS available. " lodossrage, That ^^^ doesn't add up.. Here's why, I'm sure if someone wants to buy a console will make their minds before visiting the store and will not simply 'get the next best thing' if they found that their console of choice was out of stock (99% of people at least). For reasons like where do their friends game? Now if we were to assume that the ps4's shortage was indeed a contributing factor it would break down like this: Lets say for the sake of the argument, Ps4's average demand per month in the US is 150k and xb1's 100k. If only the ps4 suffered stock shortages say only 70k units were available and the xb1 still sold 100k in average "winning" April as a result. Only mums buying their kids would change their minds on the spot and lets face it kids today know more tech stuff than we do so that's highly unlikely as well, not to mention they would want a wii from the start.
@UltraNova While I agree with what you say, buyers wouldn't have to switch machines for Xbox to win. Microsoft could sell its standard numbers whilst PS4 sells far fewer than it would have had it been in stock.
Ok but how can we expect ps4's sales to slow down so much out all of a sudden? Isn't a nearly 2 year sales dominance reason enough to believe that ps4 sales wont slow down for the foreseeable future? What happens if Sony cuts $50 off the ps4? Or release a $100 slim version? At this point Sony has to perform suicide to lose to MS.
Correction* I meant a $100 cheaper slim version.
While it may not add up to YOU, the facts don't lie. -Amazon PS4 stock was barren April, XB1 won April NPD -Amazon PS4 stock was back to normal in May, PS4 won May NPD. -Every month thus far in the current gen has showed the system that leads the Amazon best sellers wins the NPD for that month. The PS4 lost that lead with Amazon's shortage in April, so they lost. As I said before, I'm not saying Amazon is the end-all-be-all, but it IS an indicator. You can put whatever ideal you want behind it to agree or disagree, but the facts don't lie And you're saying "Only mums buying their kids would change their minds on the spot". Well, who is to say WHO those customers were that jumped shipped on April. Those could have very well been those "mums" you speak of.
Look, let me make it as plain as possible for you. Yes the ps4 had shortages on amazon that month, no I cannot for the life of me accept that mums helped the xb1 win April. This isnt christmas we are talking about for christ's sake its April and even then i would beleive that. Its was a combination of many bundles and offers MS had along with Ps4's shortage and the June batman bundle that allowed the xbox to take the win it would otherwise never achive as things stand since the ps4 doninates everywhere.
I'm really curious as to how Xbox One won the April NPD
Look at my comment above, I sort of explained why
That's just one supplier. Its hard to believe every distributor had PS4 shortages all across the country
Hi Fallen I agree with your comment but when arguably the biggest supplier or top 3 suppliers is out then that trickles down usually.
Keep in mind the difference was only 13K and Amazon is no mom and pop store.
Amazon alone could have caused over 30,000 in lost sales for the ps4 by them being out of stock.
PS4 will always be ontop! I still wonder how did Microsoft even outsold PS4 last month I know it was just by a small margin but still It's hard to imagine xbox ever outselling PS4 which is far superior
I would love for one person to give me a legit reason to why the PS4 is "Far superior" to the Xbox One, other than hardware @BlackTar What am I going to be delusional and say the Xbox One is more powerful? Other then hardware the PS4 can not touch the Xbox One in anyway
lol so you admit the HW is far superior? What a crappy use of your one bubble.
LOL @ "other than hardware" Really?! Software...?
Developer support? Games released? Games in the pipeline? SharePlay? PS+? There. You asked for one, I gave you five. I'm too good to you, really. :^P
More than anything for me its history. Had an XboxOG, MS abandoned it after 4 years when it became obvious they werent winning and needed to get an early start on the next gen. Yes, I know, it was costing them money to keep catering to their customers, but I keep hearing how MS has unlimited money but not willing to spend it on us. Then had a X360 (my Day 1 launch model didnt work out the box) and I went through 3 other models but that didnt deter me either. The kicker for me was when they again abandoned the platform after about 4 years, leaving pretty much lip service support for the rest of the console cycle. Argue if you want, but everyone must at least admit the first half of X360's life was far superior to the second half. Now XBOne is already so far behind it will never catch up in numbers, thats pretty much a given now, and MS havent released a AAA game since last November and that was a remaster and were now in the middle of the year. I cant even remember the last AAA retail game they released before that. Was it Forza? The 2nd one for a year old console? (About to be the 3rd for a 2 year old console.) Maybe it was Sunset Overdrive, a game I actually want to play but cant because buying 3rd party exclusives to deny other gamers games, is an area where MS WILL spend money. Sure they will get plenty of games near Christmas and I'll probably even buy one, but will that hold you out all year, and are you confident that Microsoft will not look for the next big thing when it becomes clear the last big thing is not so big anymore? Its the Windows Update mentality thats ingrained into the company. Sony, well I'm not going to say much because I dont have to. Everyone knows how well PSOne, PS2 and PS3 were supported with games, right into their twilight years everyone of them. History speaks for itself. So thats my reason, and it has nothing to do with specs or price. Its simply learning from experience. Both companies have different approaches to the games industry and how they treat gamers. I simply prefer Sonys. One last point, Sony ASKED gamers and game makers what they wanted when it came to designing the PS4. MS tried to TELL us what we wanted. I think that speaks volumes about the respective mindsets and while I'm happy those things never got through, the backflips or 180's if you will only reinforce the lack of vision and lack of courage in their own conviction to stick will something they claimed they believed it. They only believe in something so long as its not harming their bottom line. True with all companies I admit, but none so more obvious than Microsoft.
@Bathyj: Woah, I agree with almost everything but there has to be a distinction made for Sunset Overdrive. It's not a similar case to something like Rise of the Tomb Raider which was already getting funded by a company that could fund it by itself, it's more like Bayonetta 2 where a developer needed funding and the only one willing to give them it were a 1st party. Insomniac went to Sony and Sony didn't give them funding because Sony wanted to keep the IP but Insomniac didn't want this, so they instead went to MS. The distinction that has to be made is that this was a good thing, if MS didn't fund it, it wouldn't have been made and there's almost never any joy in something not being made (there's always exceptions of course). Street Fighter V has the same issue of not being funded by their own publisher and they needed help to get it off the ground. Seriously, look at Capcom's recent output of games or what they have lined up for E3, it's terrible and very indicative of a company with serious financial problems. So not all cases of "money-hats" are bad things, the intentions might be bad but intentions don't really matter when we end up having something positive in the end. It's like if a serial killer killed Hitler and he didn't even know who Hitler was, he just felt like killing and Hitler was his current target. Sure, the intention was bad but you can't really say the end product was a bad thing. But yeah, MS has a history of being a terrible business. Look up Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, yes, they actually had a term for the bad practices they used to take over the OS and browser markets. It's debatable whether or not they're using the similar practices in the gaming industry, but something akin to the embrace and extend portions have been done with the two previous gens. It kind of falls in line with the start of this gen where it was going to have a DRM policy that devs would have loved and the competition was either to follow suit or lose. It didn't happen that way and we are all the better for it because this isn't the OS market where people didn't really care whereas gamers are passionate and loud, for better or worse. "Deal with it" backfired and we told them to deal with it, maybe their dreams of taking over by extinguishing the competition has died and I really hope it has because either way, MS is still a player in the market. I'd prefer if their internal plans and practices changed for the better which I think they might have. Also, some more history, MS got into the console market because they thought consoles were going to take over the computer space. They thought consoles were going to evolve into PCs for your living room and they tried their best to win that market because if they didn't early on enough, they would've been locked out from it or had an even harder time. It didn't happen that and instead phones and tablets took over. They backed the wrong horse but we atleast have good (and bad) times to look back at when they jumped in.
@Bathyj http://media.giphy.com/medi... WOW...just WOW
I can't disagree with anything Bathyj said other than, Sunset Overdrive was more about MS being fine with not taking the IP rights from Insomniac. I was kind of hoping it would do a little better, because I wouldn't mind seeing Insomniac go full third party. But, I do see MS giving them their freedom and rights to their IP while helping them out as a good thing. It just doesn't make up for a ton of other things they've done that truly muddies the water. I've spoken at length on N4G about my dislike in the way Microsoft does business, and it hasn't changed in the last 10 years.
Also, Evilway, you're setting yourself up for a Monty Python moment here. Guy 1: What has Sony ever done for us? Guy 2: Well, they do have pretty solid hardware. Guy 1: Oh, yeah, they did give us that. Guy 3: And PS+. Guy 1: Alright, I grant you the hardware and PS+, the two things Sony has done for us. Guy 2: And Indie games. Guy 1: Well, yeah, obviously Indie games. Indie games go without saying, don't they? But, apart from... Guy 4: SharePlay. Guy 5: Crossbuy. Guy 2: VRAM. Guy 3: Remote Play Guy 2: Uncharted 4 etc.
Yeah, I fully admit it was Sonys fault stepping on their own appendages with S:OD. They shouldnt have insisted on IP rights and it cost them and us. I guess I'm more upset with Sony for that and insomniac who still could have got a 3rd party publisher to just make it multiplat like Fuse was. I guarantee it would have worked out better for everyone involved. So I cant blame MS really for that one and that was a bad example that I only made foolishly because I mentioned the game for a different reason. Tombraider but, dont get me started on that one. Whole different situation.