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Which Conference Will “Win” E3 2015?

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The time has come again, it’s like Christmas for gamers. We get to see the games we will be playing in the Autumn and holiday seasons. Yes, that’s right, E3 2015 is upon us, and it’s shaping up to be one of the best in years. But with so much to see and take in and so many games and DLC’s set up for reveal, who is going to “win” the battle of the conferences? T

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Moldiver3238d ago (Edited 3238d ago )

The million dollar question.

The cop out answer is gamers win. Thats a given, but it sidesteps the question, for sake of not picking a flag....The question is; which of the big three will win onstage?

On paper. Ill say MS. But E3 could surprise. But based on what we know. MS have the most to show.They have the most noteworthy AAA exclusives being released this year. That is not opinion, but fact. You may personally not like halo, but that doesnt stop it being the biggest FPS this year. You may not like forza...but that doesnt stop it being the most talked about racer coming out this year. We all know whats up with TR.That game gets talked about more than any other, even here on N4G, because of its exclusivity( whether timed or not...we may even here a reactionary response at E3 from MS and square telling us its a lifetime windows/xbox exclusive. You never know....

Fable legends will be available in july/august.A gears remaster (if you are into remasters)and gears 4. Below,inside and cuphead are promising exclusive indies. Scalebound, crackdown, phantom dust add even more AAA variety. Then there is whatever rare is working on. We dont know what it is, but we know its an AAA exclusive. Smite is already available on early access in the form of the 'founders pack', full game comes this summer. Gigantic and elite with cross play. Joe montana, potentially getting an NFL licence making it officially 'Joe montana NFL2k.

And thats just what we know know of....
we dont even know what their other studios are up to.
We dont know what other 3rd party timed exclusives they have snapped up
We dont even know what they have held back for gamescon, but we know they have promised it will be quiete a showing with more new announcements.

Love of hate MS.....these things cannot be denied.

pompombrum3238d ago

Unless someone drops the ball (MS two years ago) it's not a case of the cop out answer of gamers win but a case of everyone wins. I don't follow Nintendo so can't talk about them but both Xbox and Playstation brands are in good places right now. Just like last E3, there really won't be a specific winner as such, gamers obviously win and when gamers win, wallets get opened and the companies win.

TFJWM3238d ago

I'm leaning towards Sony for me, but I prefer surpises. Sony seems more likely to bring out some hidden stuff, we pretty much know what MS is showing since you just listed all of it.(Hopefully they have some surpises too.)

Moldiver3238d ago

I agree with you both in a sense, from a gamer's perspective, for sure.

@TFJWM

I think they will have surprises. remeber they already know they told us about FM6 back january. They let us test a beta of halo5. And announced TR last E3. Aside from gameplay vids of stuff we know about but have not seen. They will have stuff we dont know about and of course not seen. Remember this years, line up was last years announcements. so there will be new announcements for this year. And given that they have more for gamescon, that logically implies new announcements for E3 too, besides what we know about.

showtimefolks3238d ago

Moldiver

Call of duty is the biggest fps. Halo 3 was the peak for the series sales wise. Since than no halo game has sold 10 plus million.

GT is bigger than forza. One entry in GT games as on Gt5 abs Gt5 prologue sold as well as the whole forza series. And please don't tell me sales don't matter because if they matter for halo than they do matter for forza

Tomb raider is a Legit exclusive anx it looks awesome. But I am willing to bet that the uncharted trilogy will sell just as well if not more than tb raider

Don't get me Wong I am not hating on ms, I actually agree that on paper they do have a lot, but we just don't don't much about Sony since they have been quite

Xbox one games we know do far

Halo 5
forza
Tomb raider
quantum break
scale bound
crackdown
new game from rare
gears 4

PS4

Uncharted trilogy
mgs 5 trailer
destiny expansion news
god of war 4 teaser
no man sky,until dawn,rime
Un charted 4 demo
Street fighter 5
Bloodborne expansion
rumored call of duty exclusive marketing
they also most likely will get some sort of star wars news since they have exclusive marketing for that too

And than there is the unknown about vast majority of sony's first party studios

I kind of see a reverse roles now Sony is focusing more on 3rd party and exclusive partnerships. Which will help them sell a lot of consoles

They just won may console sales wise and June is their's too

1TB ps4 $399
500gb ps4 $349

Sad thing is we know so much already about e3 not much is left for surprises

Even Sony bends new game has kind oy leaked or rumored to be resistance game

Guerrilla games new ip is also kind oh leaked

So did dark sous 3

I still hope there are some huge surprises

The last guardian
left for dead 3

And hopefully a lot more

IamTylerDurden13238d ago (Edited 3238d ago )

@MoldDiver - Honestly i don't know where to begin, no doubt i will miss something.

"Fact, they have the most noteworthy AAA exclusives this yr" fact? They have forza and Halo just like last yr and gears hd while PS4 will have released Bloodborne, The Order, Until Dawn, No Man's Sky, and God of War III Re, Tearaway Unfolded, and The Nathan Drake Collection. I fail to see how it's a "fact" that xbone has more noteworthy big exclusive games even if u call the terrible 4v1 mp fable legends a aaa/big game.

"you may not like halo, but that doesn't stop it being the biggest fps this year" - Uhmm no, Call of Duty Black Ops III nov 6, 2015 WILL be the biggest fps this year and more than triple Halo 5 in sales. I would argue Project Cars will outsell forza and it will have been far more talked about.

"we may hear a response from ms and square telling us Tomb Raider is a lifetime Xbox exclusive" - Ru kidding? It's likely 3months timed, what u said is illogical the amount of money ms would have to pay Squenix to cover the PS4 sales would be unthinkable, foolish.

Crackdown is a long way off probably holiday 2016 or 2017 considering no vertical slice has been shown, nothing's been shown. Gears 4 is way off as well, at best 2017. Epic isn't even developing it a studio called Black Tusk is, Black Tusk or The Coalition sinced they changed names has NEVER made a videogame b4, ever.

Phantom Dust was cancelled and the studio went out of business, ms was so mortified with how bad the game was looking that they pulled it and squashed the team. The game has no developer atm, no content, no future. If anybody took over Phantom Dust they would have to start from scratch. It's a jk right.

Smite isn't new, it's been out on pc for a year, it is a port of a year old pc game - getting Smite is like getting Wasteland 2 or Ether One, it's not a big deal. PS4 getting SOMA and The Forest are imo bigger deals considering they are new. Gigantic is a free2play Moba yet xboners always mention it like it is a AAA game, PS4 is getting Killstrain, Drawn to Death, DeepDown, Planetside2, Day-Z ect yet ppl give PS4 NO credit for those games.

PS4 has far more AAA 1st and 2nd party studios working on New ip

GG - Horizon new ip
Media Molecule - new ip likely Morpheus compatible
SCE Bend - Horror game
SSM - God of War IV
Japan Studios - new game
Secret Sorcery - Project Morpheus game, wipeout? Motorstorm? VR racer
Quantic Dream - new ip, Dark Sorcerer...

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Rimeskeem3238d ago

I feel like MS will have strong E3 but less surprises and Sony will have an E3 with more surprises. I guess it comes down to what those surprises are but at the same time it will still be preference. Halo and gears fans will say MS. Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank fans will say Sony. fallout fans will say Bethesda. Battlefront fans will say EA. rainbow 6 and Assassina creed fans will say Ubisoft.

It's preference

PaleMoonDeath3238d ago

Fingers crossed for Sony, cause y'know, I own a PS4.

Tedakin3238d ago

If everyone would stop announcing things BEFORE E3... maybe the conferences would be more impressive

pompombrum3238d ago (Edited 3238d ago )

These days you have to look at it differently, it's not just about the conference but the build up to the conference too. It's a smart move to announce some stuff now to generate buzz for the actual conference. It also helps to stop smaller announcements getting drowned out by the buzz of the bigger ones.

Malphite3238d ago (Edited 3238d ago )

Wouldn't teasers be better suited for generating buzz though instead of full reveals with gameplay like they did with Ratchet? I agree with your second point though. E3 weekend will have tons of announements so some smaller games might get overshadowed by the big ones. Then again Fallout and Dark Souls wouldn't really be in danger of getting overshadowed.

T2X3238d ago

I am going with the "Gamers Win" because it's true. Plus I am just looking forward to seeing the new games. I don't care which business makes more money. We're not making any money off of it. SO enjoy and stop caring so much.

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Why The Game Industry Needs In-Person Shows Despite The End Of E3

Skewed and Reviewed kick off 2024 with a look at the need for in-person game conventions with the End of E3 and compares the cost-cutting methods of Hollywood who still value in-person events.

gold_drake112d ago

so, this article didnt tell me why we NEED to have in-person shows like e3, other than the authors nostalgia and remembrance of covering one of these shows.

but it also doesnt mention everyone outside of america who have never had the chance to see it in person either haha
we had to watch the darn livestream, if they had it available, at 3am in the morning haha with lags amd crashes (not all the time)

while i think these shows are great and all, i dont really "need" to have them. people are busy, im busy. id rather watch a livestream than to book a flight, a hotel etc.

but theres still pax and all of that.

Garethvk112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

I did mention that you cannot have hands-on and meetings with key people and the excitement. Europe has Gamescom and had Paris Games Week and N.A
Needs an industry event again.

A Livestream does not even come close to what was lost. I much prefer seeing and playing the games in person and asking questions to developers and marketing people versus watching talking heads doing shtick on a scripted showcase with a carefully edited video.

gold_drake112d ago

"need" is a strong word for it, imo.

"good to have it" would be a better way to describe it.

and sure, gamescom is in se germanland, paris week in .. paris.

most people dont rly care for it anymore. they either tune in to a livestream or vod or read about it online.

but opinions are opinions. if u think we Need them, then there ya go.

Garethvk112d ago

I think the industry needs them. The rank and file public not as much but our coverage is greatly limited via livestreams compared to what it was to say nothing of streams. Hands on previews Re very limited as well as we used to play big games months before release.

ApocalypseShadow112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

I get what you're saying. In person is always preferable with a hands on. Because there are those like myself that like to try before buying. That likes physical mostly over digital.

But having said that, I think it's more *your personal need* than a need for the industry itself. You need to be the middleman giving your point of view, possibly your own personal bias or subjectivity or objectivity to the equation. *We* as gamers don't actually NEED it. We can come to the same conclusions, positive or negative about a game as you can.

Companies like Sony or Nintendo used to sit back and watch others give their take on things that were negative to the message or had an agenda. Especially during the PS3 era of website bias, swag bags, advertising hand shakes, biased video, free laptops, etc.

Companies like Sony took the reigns and decided to let their base see for themselves what the games look like, than through the eyes of some journalists, bloggers and vloggers looking to cash in on click bait and advertising.

Delivering their message directly to the consumer killed a lot of that nonsense. You see the developers, you see the game, and in many cases, you can speak to these developers on discord than worrying about some article's take on something.

It's not that I want you to become obsolete. But for some, I'm glad it killed their business practices. Also, we live in an era where these games could be streamed directly to the consumers after the presentation from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft that gives that hands on of a game. They just have to implement that technology and make it high quality without latency. And *WE* as gamers can speak to each other on a preferred media platform and give our opinions on the gameplay we just experienced. Many journalists have not been fully honest on games before release because they fear losing their backstage pass and free gifts. We would know just by playing if a game is something we want. Remote play is possible now without lines, without expensive trips, etc.

To close, Sony has sold mostly 50 million PS5 consoles, over 110 million PS4 consoles and Nintendo has sold over 120 million consoles without a journalist take. They delivered their message and it's still reaching the consumers they are targeting without spending the millions of dollars on in person setup at a venue

I get what you're saying. I lived through the whole era when E3 was created and watched. But I don't need it and never been to one. And really don't need a journalist to tell me what to like or dislike.

EvertonFC111d ago

The ques for 1 game were 4 hours long for the most part, that's NOT fun.

S2Killinit111d ago

The problem with live shows was that it became all smoke and mirrors and a show of things not related to gaming. Therefore I would argue that it added a new layer of cost to the game developers and console holders that necessarily will need to made up for. Either we the consumer have to pay for that cost or the developer/manufacturer will have to bear the cost thereby taking away from profits leading to smaller studios dying out.

Remember xbox buying celebrities to make appearances? Thats a good example of unnecessary cost.

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JackBNimble112d ago

You don't need to go to the movies either, you can sit on your ass and watch any number of streams but that doesn't make it any better then actually going out.

This generation has become so spoiled and lazy.

gold_drake112d ago

booking a flight and a hotel aint the same as going to the movies, but pop off i guess ha.

Garethvk112d ago

Streaming cannot replace the communal experience of event films.

EvertonFC111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

Actually it does, for one it's cheaper eating my own snacks at home than over priced pi** take cinema prices. 2 it's About £150 to take the family to the cinema or £15 for a new cinema release and watch at home on my awesome 4k TV.
3 We can pause the film when needed, sit in the warmth of our home and have no di*kheads talking through the movie.
That's called using your brain, not being lazy or spoiled dude.

TheColbertinator112d ago

I'd rather publishers send out closed betas to garner gamer concern and interest like how we had demos back in the day.

I don't miss E3 as much as I loved it at one point but that era is long gone.

Garethvk112d ago

There is a need but refinement was and is needed.

Zenzuu112d ago

Sad to see it go. It was a great event for gamers and developers all around the world getting together and celebrate gaming as a community.

The announcements of new games/hardware, hype, surprises and seeing live audience reactions, it's something only events like E3 are able to bring. It will be missed...

hombreacabado111d ago

if its going to be anything like the game awards where celebrities that dont even play games are there and its just full of fluff and commercial crap than no we dont need in person shows. we just end up watching the trailer montages the next day anyway.

Shiro173111d ago

To be honest E3 was one of my favorite times of the years when I was younger. I couldn't wait for all the big conferences and new announcements. It was hype even if nothing good was announced we had cringe moments to laugh at.

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The Rise and Fall of E3

Rest in peace, E3. It may be easy to understand why you wasted away, but you will be missed.

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Terry_B130d ago

Nah..it won't be missed. Times changed.

mastershredder129d ago (Edited 129d ago )

E3 pre-2005 will be missed, everything after than ain't even close or worthy of mention to be missed. Late 90's E3's were phenominal, especially the after parties.

Dwarrior129d ago

Those that scoff and hand-wave it away are kids that were never there. Peak E3 was peak gaming.

It already IS missed.

darthv72129d ago

"$299".... and the rest was history.

jznrpg129d ago

It’s been dead for a good while so I don’t miss it. Things change

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Remembering the most chaotic trade show, E3

Pour one out for E3; it's finally deader than the dodo.

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