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Batman: Arkham Origins Was King Of The Canon

On Episode Three of 'Before The Knight At Arkham', Throwing Digital Sheep's Sean Braganza, fed up with a Copy Editor who dislikes the Bat mythos and ushered by the negativity Batman: Arkham Origins has garnered, goes on to explain why it is the best game of the Arkham canon yet.

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Yi-Long3241d ago

... but it seems the developers don't want me to play it.

Never picked it up because of the big amount of DLC released for it, opting to wait for a GOTY/Complete edition instead. Which never came.

Even in the current sale on PSN (EU), they have the game up for sale for 10 bucks, but no complete bundle. Sadly.

Also disappointed it won't get a current-gen HD Remaster including all content, like Asylum and City are getting.

Oh well... it will be 'the one that got away'.

ShinMaster3241d ago

Seriously? 10 bucks is cheap. It's definitely worth getting.

Most of the DLC is skins and you'd definitely pay more for a GOTY edition.

Yi-Long3241d ago

I know 10 bucks is cheap.

It's also still incomplete, it had a couple of story-expansions in it's DLC (Initiation and Cold Heart), as well as playable characters, and it's last-gen.

If they had wanted my money they would have released a 'GOTY' and I happily would have bought it, but they still can't be bothered, and therefore I can't be bothered either.

Like I said, I was excited about the game, and would have happily bought it at launch for full price if they wouldn't have done their whole DLC-greed thing.

They did, so that automatically meant I would wait for a complete release, and since that never happened, I won't be playing the game. Simple as that.

Ezz20133241d ago (Edited 3241d ago )

I'm only talking about my self here
I played every Batman Arkham game
and Arkham Origins is the best arkham game

SteamPowered3241d ago

I didnt care for Joker's return, but the game was solid. I loved the detective aspects, solving murders and such. Really reminded me of the Worlds Greatest Detective before hollywood got a hold of him.

Ezz20133241d ago

@steampowered

Yes i agree
it really felt like a true Batman game
and the boss fights were incredible

ShinMaster3240d ago

The story was nicely paced too.

Ezz20133240d ago

You can say that again ,Shin

what i loved about it is that even the side quests are part of the story and Batman enemies
the Dark and grity city was just amazing too
and the Music is by far is the best in all arkham games

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madcowzz3241d ago

Also this game wasn't developed by Rocksteady, so there's that. It definitely wasn't as good as the previous 2, and Blackgate (the companion game) was just as mediocre. Which is sad because this series is one of my favorite series to come out last gen, setting aside the fact that Batman is my favorite superhero

hades073241d ago

While not as great as the previous two, it was still a great game. Only problem I had was it was a bit glitchy first when it came out and I had to restart the game, and some of the achievements were easy to miss.

ShinMaster3240d ago

Irrelevant. It's still a great game.
Too many people wrote off the game the moment it was announced because it "wasn't Rocksteady herp derp".

KrystofKage13241d ago

The only DLC worth getting for Origins was the Mr Freeze campaign. For how much the standalone game is, it's worth every penney. Origins was a great game.

This also should remind people that games don't always get the GOTY treatment, so don't hold your breath for Arkham Knight.

dohji3241d ago

Lmao origins wasn't GOTY material that's why.

iSuperSaiyanGod3240d ago

You sound like a cry baby lol I can't have it all so I won't buy it lmfao

Yi-Long3240d ago

They're trying to milk it and nickel and dime me, and I don't want to support such greed, which is why I wait for a complete edition.

Not that hard to understand.

ShinMaster3240d ago

I don't know man. That's starting to sound a bit capricious now. If you can't be bothered then you probably didn't want to play the game that badly in the first place.

Only the Mr Freeze DLC had a story.

And like I said, you'd be paying more for a GOTY edition.

Yi-Long3240d ago

Like I said, I would have bought this day 1 and for full price if it wouldn't have had all that DLC-greed going on.

I absolutely do want to play it, but even now when I go in the store the Season Pass is still something like 20 euro(!).

I bought and loved Asylum and City. I will even buy the Remasters of those game when those are released later (if they don't screw up those releases, of course...), and I was very much looking forward to Origins.

The complaints at the time that it was 'more of the same' was never a negative for me. Also the fact that this showed a young Batman was very much a plus for me.

So I was always very much their target-audience, but they simply lost be because of that DLC-milking, which I have never supported and which I will never support.

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Hold_It3241d ago

The story was very good, unfortunately the gameplay was garbage and plagued with bugs they didn't feel like fixing, and instead told the fans to buy Cold Cold Heart instead. I just hope that Arkham Knight doesn't have the same story crap that this game does where they try to act like a villain who isn't the Joker is going to be the big bad for once and then they turn around and bait and switch you.

The Joker did "die" in Arkham City, so hopefully it stays that way. It'd be cool if Hush really was the Arkham Knight.

Yi-Long3241d ago

Jason Todd is Arkham Knight.

Absolutely NO WAY it's Hush. Hush can't fight, doesn't have an army, and this just isn't his m.o.

masso91123240d ago

Dude, Jason Todd is Red Hood, he even appears as Red Hood in the game

Yi-Long3240d ago

Jason Todd is Arkham Knight in the main story, and Red Hood in the DLC-content. Basically Red Hood is his 2nd skin.

MilkMan3241d ago

This is was a great game. You a true Batman fan? You need to play this. Bottom line.

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I've Lost All Hope For Hogwarts Legacy 2

Saad from eXputer: "Despite the success of Hogwarts Legacy, WB's decided to focus on live service and I've lost all hope for a potential sequel."

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banger8840d ago

Let's just chalk this game up as a fantastic one-off, and WB can go f******* rot in hell.

Notellin38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

No, David Zaslav and everyone in the WBD executive office is scum and deserves the absolute worst.

DarkZane38d ago

It was actually pretty repetitive. I got bored after a few hours and forced myself to finish.

mudakoshaka38d ago

Thank you! Beautiful facade but no real depth to the game.

-Foxtrot38d ago

I'm hoping with the layout and foundation already done now they can spend their time in the sequel to refine things and give it a lot more depth so things don't feel repetitive.

Profchaos39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

I have no idea how eceutive teams can look at both Hogwarts and suicide squad next to each other and go hey our critical and commercial darling was a fluke suicide squad was the real success they just didn't know it.

Seemingly there's some weird ego involved someone wants to be proven right

--Onilink--38d ago

I mean, not to necessarily give them any kind of credit, because they clearly have some pretty dumb ideas… but the reality of AAA development has meant basically all big publishers have had to look at Live Service games in one way or another to try to cope with increasingly bigger budgets and longer development times.

The 5 years it took to make HL (with no doubt a massive budget) cannot be hard to manage when they are also expected, by gamers AND shareholders, to come up with several quality releases each year, just look at how much complaining (warranted or not) there has been about Sony’s first party release drought (with Sony also going through their own Live Service issues)

I cant really fault them for trying to find a sustainable and profitable live service game or two that helps keep their quarterly and yearly numbers looking good while they would, ideally (and this is where they appear to be going wrong), using that time and money afforded by their live service games, to fund their big non-live service projects.

Espangerish38d ago

For this reason the industry needs to move away from so many 50+ hour long AAA games and focus on high quality but shorter stuff. Obviously they would sell at a reduced price too (don’t want £70 12 hours games) but you know what I mean hopefully!

HarryMasonHerpderp37d ago

They look at charts. One of them is how much money live service games make and the other is how much money single player experiences make. Hogwarts may have sold really well but it's a drop in the ocean when compared to an on going live service game if you manage to get a hit.
Personally I don't understand why so many people dump their money into live service games and I find it super sad that they're so popular. The kids absolutely love them.

Profchaos37d ago

I agree I'm the same I don't understand the appeal I've never wanted to pay for cosmetics I've always felt that should be included in the game but kids love them

Think thats the thing about getting old you aren't garunteed to know why the next gen loves something you hate I guess my parents hated the music I listened to growing up maybe this is the same thing

Ironmike38d ago

I bought thought it was okay first 10 hrs then boy did the repeative gameplay kick in

scorpio_204938d ago

Yep. The castle was so fun. The overworld was just like every other overworld. They should have doubled down on the castle/student stuff.

The game overall was mid.

GhostScholar38d ago

They will realize that live service games die pretty much as soon as they begin and then they’ll stop and we may still get a sequel.

Zhipp38d ago

For sure this is what they're thinking.

DOMination-38d ago

If you strike gold with Live Service, you have guaranteed mega-income for years. If you fluff it, then you just have a single player game. This is the way publishers who don't really care about gaming see it.

I don't agree with it btw - but this is why it is how it is. Publishers see no downside - just up-sides and dollars.

glennhkboy38d ago

PUBG, APEX, MW & numerous mobile games show that IF publisher can make a popular live-service game, they will have a cash cow in their hand. That's why publishers keep trying.

GhostScholar37d ago

Yes, IF it’s popular. Of all live service games, something like 3 percent are “popular”

Kyizen38d ago

If Hogwarts was a live service game you wouldn't need a part 2.

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Warner Bros. Discusses "Volatile" AAA Console Games, Will Lean Into Free-To-Play And Mobile

The company envisions a future Harry Potter game where you can "live and work and build and play in that world in an ongoing basis."

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Barlos49d ago

They're not learning are they?

Stuart575649d ago

"Volatile" AAA. Lol.

AAA is what you make it, and its in your control because YOU MAKE IT.
Spend too much and take too long = "Volatile"
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Take a step back, regroup, have a vision in mind, set a budget, have realistic goals and develop. We're here waiting when you make something we want

talocaca49d ago

They literally hear what they want to hear. Hogwarts Legacy was a massive success, but somehow they will double down on Suicide Squad?

Mmmm......ok.

CobraKai49d ago

It’s volatile cuz they heavily invested in a game no one wanted. Harry Hogwarts was a game people wanted. Suicide Squad was not.

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Warner Brothers is working on new DC games, but sadly not Superman

With Suicide Squad KTJL now available on PS5 and Xbox, WB Games is developing new DC Comics games, but Superman isn't a priority right now.

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RaidenBlack72d ago

not another GaaS, plz WB
and plz let Monolith make another F.E.A.R game after their Wonder Women game

Christopher72d ago

WB execs are big into live service games, sadly. They got the wrong memo that most other studios have gotten about live service games not being as successful because of the existing pool of them and having to be a hit immediately to truly succeed. Epic, EA, and Riot aren't making all that money to let others get in on their action. They're making it as hard as can be for people to get a piece of that pie.

ApocalypseShadow73d ago

With Spider-Man doing well, with an upcoming Wolverine game coming down the line, and the leak that an X-Men game is coming to PlayStation, and games like Guardians of the Galaxy doing well, just give us a Justice League game. I'm sick of just seeing Batman made even though I like Batman.

I want a Superman game. But not if the developers aren't capable of making a great game with the character. I can see different levels made with the different characters to show their powers in Justice League. Even an underwater Aquaman level where you can use his communication powers with sea creatures would be great. With a boss battle with Black Manta in and out of the water. A Flash level running through the streets against Reverse Flash, in the sky and in space battles with Green Lantern or Superman. Fighting on Paradise Island with Wonder Woman, etc. Either fighting the Legion of Doom or Brainiac controlling villains. Just something Epic. You could mix and match super heroes on different levels. But the game would be much harder to play as those characters because that hero would be at a disadvantage.

That's what I want anyway. It doesn't just have to be Superman only.

Terry_B73d ago

Give me a Lobo or a Green Arrow game already.

porkChop73d ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Superman character just doesn't work in a video game. Between his abilities and his singular weakness, any game where you actually *feel* like Superman will basically have you in god mode the whole time.

The whole bad guys using kryptonite to weaken him thing is super boring at this point. Also, an origin story where he's slowly learning his powers will only work for one game before you run into the same problems again. You can't take away his powers as an adult because it's a cheap gimmick and people hate it. He's just not a good character to build a game around.

Superman as the bad guy where you're struggling to survive and take him down? Eh, maybe, but it wouldn't be a Superman game anyway at that point.

RaidenBlack72d ago

A Superman game will work for a semi-open world game not set on Earth but on another hostile planet with pockets of Kryptonite debris/formations and other natural hostilities + super mutant enemies.
This will limit his ever uber powerful abilities and will force players to play accordingly & strategically.
Now don't comment below, "but what's the point? we want an open world Supes game set on Earth" coz that ain't feasible as porkChop listed above.
One Superman game like this is still better than no Superman game.

CantThinkOfAUsername72d ago

It seems like younger generations love the feeling of being OP with no struggle whatsoever if current popular entertainment is anything to go by.

ravens5273d ago

As long as its not gaas or I hope it does just as poorly as Ssktjl

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