MMGN writes: Sony and Insomniac dropped a bomb on nostalgic PlayStation games this morning, releasing a new gameplay trailer for PlayStation 4 exclusive Ratchet & Clank. We also have a few new tidbits now, courtesy of the PlayStation Blog.
Well you dropped the series to 30fps for the first time aside from the spinoff titles. The game does look amazing though.
Still not understanding the issue when we've seen gameplay. It looks really smooth, so why not use resources to further the look of the world around you instead of wasting it on extra frame rate that isn't really needed? Cap it at 30, and make a beautiful world. I'm all for that.
Because some people care more about the numbers than the actual game?
Some people like too hear themselves talk.
I've been waiting for the moment when we could literally play a Pixar movie. It looks stunning. Love the pixel gun lol! I can't wait for this. This is how I want my Bioshock, DemS and DS remakes to be...from the ground up, a reinvisioning, adding everything you may have wanted to before but couldnt. New weapons and gameplay.
@morgue Why not cap it at 5fps and go nuts with the graphics? Its obvious you don't know what 60fps gaming is all about, but then again this is PlayStation fanboy central.
http://www.insomniacgames.c... they feel based on tests and polls that graphics are more important than higher frame rates.
Yeah I don't get the whole issue with 30fps. The game obviously limited frame rate in favour of the amazing visuals and the gameplay looks great. Yes 60fps would have been nice but will it really materially affect the gameplay?
I want gorgeous visuals. If I want 60fps, I'll go play crazi taxi on Dreamcast. With all it's 5 polygon no texture splendour.
The point of high framerate isn't just about how it looks, it reduces input lag and makes the game more responsive. It makes games more enjoyable on a fundamental level. Insomniac is functionally choosing improving graphics over improving gameplay.
Well, I don't see the difference very well. Kind of learned over time. For me it is more about the feeling of the controls. And specially, super specially, in games where you rotate the camera a lot, which is the case of platformers, then 60 fps makes a difference for me.
This game is looking gorgeous. The statements are not hyperbole when the game looks this good in motion. And this video isn't even a good representation of how the IQ looks.
The game does look hyper amazing...closest to an animated movie I've seen...ever. 30 frames is a let down....a minor letdown, but as long as it's locked at 30 I have zero problems...imo at least. From the looks of it and givin the huge amount of movement in the background 30 frames might be the best bet for this game. All other ratchets ran at 60...but they looked nothing like this. this is clearly a demanding game and most demanding games are at 30 frames..I'm all in.
Agree 30FPS is plenty enough if its locked
When I saw the gameplay I couldn't tell it was 30fps. It was so smooth to my eyes.
Exactly. A rock solid 30fps is great for games and with a game like this the trade off of 30fps difference vs better visuals is an easy choice to make. All these people saying anything less than 60 are just being stingy. 60fps is more necessary for fast paced games like sports, racing and competitive shooters though.
Seriously looks amazing.
when I saw it, I didnt even think of fps
I have to admit 60fps is incredibly overrated Having gone straight from playing hours of a 60fps game then jumping to a 30fps game immediately, yes there is a difference. 30fps had that jitter effect when you pan the camera, but here is the great thing, the brain/eyes adjust and after 10 minutes of playing that jitter effect disappears and it is actually smooth. I guess everyone is different though. Going from 60fps to 30fps has zero impact on my enjoyment of the game or playability/controls.
60FPS is neither overrated nor underrated. The best kind of gamers have the attitude of, "I WANT 60FPS, but I don't NEED 60 FPS"
Into the nexus was a 30 fps game and it played just fine. Maybe not as smooth as older ratchet games, but still good enough for me.
Into the Nexus is hardly a spinoff title. It directly extends the narrative from the core games, with an additional adventure. It's shorter, but it's not a 'spin off'. Also, I don't think 30fps has hurt the series one bit, in honesty. Into the Nexus plays really, really well.
This R&C look unknown to us fans. amazing yes, but still unknown . ratchet home planet look unknown . guns took from ACIT,TOD, FFA,QFB and these "LAZY ASSES " call this new and inovative haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa inovative my ass. and im holding out for this remake of a old game to buy ps4 not anymore . Insomniac and Ghost games not doing to well in rebooting old franchises.
Insomniac back when they made R3 stated that from then on out, their games will run at 30fps for visual fidelity. I'm all for it. The true results of that change are right here. If they wanted to, they would of run on 60fps, but that would mean a resolution drop, especially with everything that's going on screen.
This looks far better graphically than their last effort which was 30fps and only a mere 900p. Insomniac must be feeling great now they finally get a chance to use hardware that can do justice to their games.
Tools of Destruction looks phenomenal on the PS3 in all fairness, especially for its time.
To render DOUBLE the frames in a second you would need to downgrade the visuals pretty significantly. It isn't just a matter of lowering the resolution a bit (which I don't like either) you also need to reduce other things like lighting, shadows, AF, AO etc. It would just look more bland to get the higher framerate, many decide it isn't worth it. This game looks good now, hopefully it won't be downgraded too much like everything else these days.
Game looks absolutely gorgeous. Is this a remake or reboot? What is the PS4 game in terms of story? I never played the PS2 series, just the Future Trilogy. Crack in Time is one of the best platforming games ever made.
Its a reboot, made from the ground up as a new game. The only relationition it has to the first is the Story, even then it's only based on it with a lot of additional content (they said there will be worlds that were never seen in the first). The gameplay has been made to match the newer series so its much more faster, also it uses weapons from the first game, the future series, and completely new weapons as well.
I thought Knack also looked like a CG movie.
Knack looked pretty good sometimes. Just got the platinum for it last night.
The plat on that game is brutal to get. I just have to get every chest on a play through and beat hard and it's mine 😭
Knack had some great visuals yeah
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I wonder why its not $60. I would have paid $60 for this game, easily, but if all they want is $40, I will never speak of this again haha.
it will be very "different" to play it at 30fps sigh...
I'll have no problem loving it.
People had no problem playing their last game in 30FPS so why should they have issues with this one?
30fps and it looks great just like Driveclub. Ratchet has always been a game that exceed with its fluidity of 60fps so I am sad that they trade that aspect for 30fps to continue keeping the visual as amazing as possible that the series excel at. It will be a little different seeing it running at 30fps because I am used to the 60fps gameplay of this series but I am sure I will adjust to it. I suppose it is acceptable as trade offs needs to be made in order to keep a smooth running engine and maintain graphics supremacy like what Halo 5 is doing in eliminating local co-ops and opt for online 4 player drop in, drop out co-ops to maintain their 60fps engine. I fully accept these trade offs if it means maintaining the vision and quality these developers are going for. Day one for me as this Ratchet game really does look like Pixar quality and will have amazing gameplay that Insomniac is known for for this series!
You are not as sneaky as you think you are.
They said the same for PS3 games, go back and read. I just don't see the point of this comment, what does it even try to say ? You either love these games (as I do) or you don't. Graphics are not as relevant anymore. Accept it.
The gameplay video they released looks very nice and the R&C games on PS3 already looked great. I also love the 8bit cannon :D
If this is true then that is really impressive
this game is hot http://i.imgur.com/m9IDAZf....
I'm so greedy i want this now, even though i'm overloaded with games atm. The series needed a reset, no better time then now with the new hardware and the surging popularity of the PS4. I can't wait to start over from the beginning with a new story and game. The 8bit (minecraft) gun is awesome! Sony should follow this blueprint with Sly, Crash? Jak and Daxter ect. They're doing similar things with Shadow of the Beast.
Lol I love you fanboys. You go from "Developers focus to much on graphics. Gameplay over graphics any day." to "Yeah, it's fine that they hindered the gameplay to improve the graphics." Too funny.
Can you tell me which person made those two comments? I'm sure you can, otherwise you'll just look like a bitter troll and I'm sure you're not... Insomniac games have capped at 30fps for several games now - including the R&C franchise and including the last full R&C game, Into The Nexus, which reviewed great and was enjoyed by all R&C fans. I can't find a single comment relating to Into The Nexus that states how the game plays less well now that it's 30fps...again, prove me wrong and win back your credibility. :^)
You see comments like those all the time. If you want to act like you've never seen it, be my guest. In regards to the R&C franchise, the one and only game that was capped at 30 FPS was Into The Nexus. It's also one of the lowest rated R&C games. Make of that what you will. No need to "prove you wrong" since you already are.
Wow thanks for your attempt to justify your comment; at least it made me laugh! Insomniac Games has developed 7 games since R&C:ACiT, 3 of which have been R&C games and all 7 of which have been 30fps - I guess you don't really know R&C...who's wrong? lol I'm still waiting for you to show me who said "gameplay over graphics" and then said "fine that they hindered the gameplay to improve the graphics". You don't have to, of course. We both know you're just blowing hot air on that one, right? ;^P
@GQ, Unless in those reviews it mentions the lowered fps as being a negative and hindered their experience then that assumption is pulled out of the air.
Glad I could make you laugh :)
^I generally like to laugh with people rather than at them, but I'll take it, lol Regardless, the game looks great, whether you're talking graphics or gameplay. I for one can't wait to play it! I hope they have a battle arena and gold bolts in 'impossible' places - addictive as hell! :^)
FPS does not equal gameplay .
The game looks amazing as all past R&C games did with every gen starting with the PS2.The game does look on par with pixar/cgi,can't wait to play this next year.
It looks great but can't 'exceed the fidelity of cg movies' because they will always have the advantage of being pre-rendered. Not trying to be pedantic but it's a bullshit claim.
well... it looks incredible and better than old CG movies, and you can't argue that.
No, it doesn't. Even the first Toy Story is still above and beyond anything that can be rendered in real time. This, again, is just more sensationalist tripe to hype up a PS4 exclusive. The game looks great. But leave the hyperbole at the door, please.
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The trailer and the gameplay looks amazing, i'm not worried at all.
Heck yeah! I can't wait to have this in my PS4. Hopefully it'll as badass as it sounds!
So basically they're saying "Toy Story Graphics." It has finally come to pass.
Lol I cant believe people still havent corrected it. http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Sony said no such thing it was MS.
Looks great...the way it looks plays reminds me of Wreck-It Ralph lol
I can't wait. The game looks amazing 30fps has never ever bothered me even though I'd opt for 60 if I could choose.
Can somone find where it says the previous games were in 60fps...my versions seem to be bugged.
When I play R&C with my 6 years old kid she keeps telling me how she loves watching the 60fps in action ;P Lol no she doesnt Edit. I know what you mean but the Internet gives me some good laughs really. Some are even whining about the game being too cheap XD
I dont think theres really a need for that, the previous games just always were really smooth, you could see or atleast feel that. You could also see the drop into 30FPS whenever you played like Deadlocked in splitscreen. The Jak and Sly games were also 60 fps (I have the least experience with sly games but Im pretty sure they were 60) Even the later R&C games like Tools of Destruction and A Crack In Time were 60FPS apparently (again, havent played them too much)
I've always found 30fps on consoles a smoother experience than 30fps on pc. I really struggle to play games below 60fps on pc but my console games 30fps is ok. As a fan of ratchet series I have faith they'll make the best decisions on producing another great game.
Never played a Ratchet & Clank game before now I think it's time to play one!
Fantastic games. Lots of fun, I'm glad I decided to keep all mine for my collection.