Recent reports show fewer and fewer games are physical in-store sales. The big losers might be gamers.
I will buy physical copies of games as long as they're available, hopefully forever
I'm with you. Call me old school but I like the box AND the instructions booklet. Oh the good old days!
Most games dont come with instruction books anymore.
Yeah, I really feel like it will have a much broader negative effect on gaming's community than people realize. There is just something utterly satisfying and unifying about having a collection of games that a lot of newer gamers will not understand until they have lived in a 100% digital-gaming era for a decade or two. It makes it feel like...I don't know, we as a community will have nothing tangible to pass on and share and cultivate with later generations that are interested in the industry, ESPECIALLY when we inevitably go to streaming and license-based services. ...or maybe I suddenly became an old fart just now.
a lot of people prefer physical games because they feel more ownership and control of those games. however from a game publisher and hardware supplier digital makes more sense. the only thing really stopping them is there still isn't an infrastructure in place to reach everyone and expect them to download games that are 50gb each. it is getting there and services like steam show there is a sustainable platform already but the aaa studios still want to penetrate as large of a market as possible and console suppliers are still in cahoots with retailers. so they don't want to alienate them either.
@Moldy-"from a game publisher and hardware supplier digital makes more sense. the only thing really stopping them is there still isn't an infrastructure in place to reach everyone and expect them to download games that are 50gb each" 50GB and climbing, who is to stay games will stay at 50gb? Also, its a catch 22, how can it make sense, yet the issue on the infrastructure not being in place exist? Sooo it actually doesn't currently make sense then. On a techical scale...yes, in a wonder world of make believe where anything goes.....yes. In actuality..it doesn't work, it doesn't make sense. Not enough have a connection to do it, games get larger each gen, and clearly just the option of choice alone as merely having a connection doesn't mean that is the choice of gamers for distribution. The reality is, for it to happen, you don't just need it world wide set up, you also need gamers to actually choose that method willingly. ie XONE. Just cause someone things they want to do it, does't make it so. At the end of the day, the market is controlled by gamers. So digital only gaming isn't a "Could be" bad, it is. Period. No choice, less options. No one wants no choice, 1 option. Look at Steam, look at PSN, look at XB...take a gander at some of the games that come out last year, notice their prices. They don't need to lower jack, the don't need to discount jack, they can legit just keep it the same price for months if not years. Retail. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref... digital http://store.steampowered.c... Mind you..who know what the price would be with zero retail at all, they wouldn't even need to compete, they could just keep it at full price if not near full price for years. For those buying digital only now on consoles, that fine...you can CHOOSE to do that, nothing is wrong with that choice...but it must remain a CHOICE! Games are growing too fast to even try such a thing, gamers are very much fighting to keep physical as clearly the start of this gen showed. Mind you as I've stated many, many times....no medium has went to 1 distribution. Yet the one that grows in size and complexity ever few years will? Not likely. If any medium seeks a hardcopy, its games.
You now what, I always wanted, when the time arrives to sit down with my child, dust of that N64 and show them Super Mario 64. Its easy cause I kept my N64 and Mario's cartridge. Yes I know that Mario will be available online at some point but the feeling cannot be replicated since those cartridges/disc are a lot like font memories materialized and are there for me to relieve them with my loved ones whenever I choose to. What saddens me is that later generations wont have this luxury. Do we really want that feeling of actually owning something physical gone? Is digital only really worth the sacrifice? I will always support physical media, no matter what.
^Yeah, it just puts too much power into the hands of publishers and distributors. If all we are ever paying for is licenses - as in basically PERMISSION to play games until they decide otherwise - then what's to stop a ton of lesser games from completely disappearing from the face of the earth because some corporate big whigs decide it's not making them enough money?
They take up less HDD room, plus you get a cool case to look at!
They take up the same amount of HDD space.
Sigh No it takes the same amount of space
But we're destroying our environment with these plastic video game cases.
What?!? and you think the making of your console doesn't impact the environment?
That is corporate propaganda.
Indeed that's also why booklets that were once standard are gone. Poor trees had enough... oh wait now it's just advertising for future games or season pass garbage, guess those trees didn't matter after all.
I totally agree. The only games I download are indies and free PS+ games
Yep, I dont want to be stuck with a game after im done with it within 3-4 weeks. Especially single player games. Physical is still superior in every way.
Except that more and more they're becoming worthless because of the need for patches and updates. Requirement for online. It sucks but that's how things are being made to be.
Yea but you still have the original copy
Which could be unplayable. How is that not a consideration to you?
P.T. is the latest in a long line of examples that illustrate why physical media is better than digital.
I buy most of my games digitally, unless I see a cheap/used game I want in stores. to be honest I like less clutter in my house so im all in. plus I dont have to sell of my old games when next gen starts because it will all be on HDD. Much like the 149 games I have on MY X360. Not a disc insight. I dont sell my games anyway. Game shops dont pay much, and Im not exactly struggling for money.... Messiah23 "I do not trade my games in nor do I borrow or let friends borrow games and I do buy the games I want to play so no rentals would not bother me either." Same here. They just come back to me looking like an ashtray or a beer coaster. plus they all my friends are grown folk...they can afford their own games.
Same here. I'm all digital, also if you can wait a few months after release (I can, and most times I do) you can get the games at incredible discounts, and I'm not talking Steam discounts for PC, but PSN or XBL games discounts. I understand that for those who like to have a collection, digital feels like meh.
"and I'm not talking Steam discounts for PC, but PSN or XBL games discounts." Yup! thats how I ended up with so many digital X360 games. I got all the good stuff! and I always bought during sales. I picked up pneuma for 8 bucks yesterday on X1. crazy thing is I now have X1 backlogue in addition to x360 backlogue. I have no idea when Im gonna get round to SSOD because of all my other games. I bought in in the sales back at xmas. six months later, neverwinter, FM5 and FH2, MCC, ori and two BF games dominate my gaming time. I will start playing it once I finish styx though. I want to play SSOD more but I figured I would get the less intresting game out the way first. and styx is a good game. I bought that in the same xmas sale on the same day, and only recently started playing it, so that should give you an idea just how much of these deals I am lapping up. I love it! and the fact that its all there on my HDD ready to play. dont even need to change disc...im used to that now. I aint going back to swapping discs to change game. I want to get a kinect at some point so I can just tell my xbox what game to load up while I grab a drink and snacks for my gaming session. I can just yell at it from the kitchen!
I know, I have the same problem, a lot of games on backlog. By the way I just finished playing Styx, I loved it more than I was expecting. Great game!
I always trade games back in so I hate this trend.
Since I got ps4 I only buy digital.
I buy digitally mainly because geographically I can't get to a Bestbuy or Walmart to buy without having to drive extensively!
Although I like the convenience of digital games, I hope physical media will never go away
Physical and digital must be balance. Because it's need option for people to buy.
digital for indy's all night long but actual games never.... it already sucks that the ps4 and xboxone all install games from disc as it is.... im thinkin my ps4 has all this memory cause i haven't downloaded anything really for it and wow, turns out Ive used over half of it.
No one is moving so why do we need these articles??
I don't have any problem with the abiility to buy digital copies of games if one chooses to do so, however, to price them the same as physical copies is utterly ridiculous. I prefer physical copies of games, music, and books personally, but to charge the same amount is almost criminal in my opinion.
I have been all digital on my ps4 and xb1 since day one... I love the convenience of it but I hate the length it takes to dl them... Now the biggest problem I'm starting to have and has me very close on going back to discs is the price.. It's not almost criminal it is criminal!
I have no problem with people who buy digital in the least, nor care if people want to pay full retail price for them. What I don't like is people who act like they're better than others because they do so, and keep looking down on those who still prefer retail. People who prefer retail don't often go calling for the end of digital, but it's pretty common for people who prefer digital to go around saying the days of retail are numbered, and that it should just go away for whatever reason.
I buy digitally now, then years later go to gamestop during their sales to buy the games very cheap to stuff my shelves.
Personally i love to have the boxes, but the convenience with digital is just amazing. I dont have to worry about switching discs, taking discs with me, i log in to another persons console and i can get all my games. If i had a choice i honestly would pick Xbox's first digital system they wanted, that way id have the boxes and still have the digital convenience that i love. I dont really ever trade in games or sell them so thats not a problem for me at all.
Aside from trade in or reselling a game, I really don't miss much. But the BD makers , retail, shipping companies , case makers they will lose way more than a consumer will. Jmo
Yeah give me a guarantee that whatever happens to the digital game stores I'll never lose access to "my" digital games and have 100TB disc space (as most games nowadays are easily 50GB each) and give me access to better internet then I'll go full digital.
I just wish I didnt need the disc in my X1 after installing the game to be able to play it. I know this was going to be a launch feature so I hope they reinstate it at some point. Its for this reason I prefer digital over physical, convenience. Just like with my movie and music collection which is all sitting on my media server.
You do know that having disc in the console is a DRM measurement right? If this what you wrote would be possible then any amount of people would be able to use one copy of the game. Whereas now when for example if you borrow your game disc to a friend or sell it to somebody else you lose access to that game and that already is a problem for gaming companies. They HATE used games.
Well its never going to happen so no need to fear.
Physical all the way man. Lots of memories!
I love how old most of you sound. Like you go home and sit by your vynal records and watch your VHS or beta tapes for the memories... screw the fact that its infinitely more convienent to have every song i have ever owned on my phone and every movie i have ever owned on a HTPC so i dont have to get up to put it in or change it out. Call it lazy but i bet you all use a remote to change your tv channels instead of getting up and walking to the television.
Even if you buy music at retail you can still put your entire collection on another device. For movies, it's becoming increasingly more common to offer a digital copy to allow you to put it on HTPC, and even if they don't, there is nothing that really prevents one from doing so. Then when all is said and done, you still have ownership of the original content so you can sell it should someone want to buy it. If you keep the digital version, then your a pirate, but that's another issue. The chance that you can lose rights to your purchase content still exist in DD, and that's unlikely to go away since you rely on web storefronts to buy those things. Game's don't really have that option outside of PC or console modification in some cases. Remotes are hardly comparative. Most people don't change games 10 times to find one they want to play, and most aren't so lazy that they can't get up every hour or two to throw in another game. Changing games has never been an issue before DD came about, so I hardly see why it became one after. There are benefits to digital. But that doesn't mean that retail needs to go away, or that it is inferior because what's important to you is not the same as what's important to the next guy.
Retail wont go away, there will always be a market for retail in some small way. You can still buy a CD and a DVD at retail but I would pay money that more of that media is sold digital now than ever. Not everyone sells their games, proof of concept is already out with the PC market. How many games are sold digitally on the PC's? There is a huge market for digital distribution. "Remotes are hardly comparative." This wasn't said as a comparison this was a rebuttal to anyone that might call me lazy for not wanting to get up and change a movie or game. "...what's important to you is not the same as what's important to the next guy." This goes both ways though so its kind of a mute point.
People don't seem to realize when we are talking about physical games then you'll have access to them any time. Be it now,tomorrow or 20 years from now. With digital you have no idea whatsoever what will happen with XBL/PSN/Steam/Origin/Uplay 5 or 10 years from now. What if they get shut down? What will happen to those games that you have purchased?
You mean like what happened to all those NES games and Sega games and SNES games... i play them on my phone because they were all ripped so now even if the cartridge goes bad i still have that game theoretically for ever. As apposed to if the game was never made digital imagine what would most people do when the cartridges finaly start breaking down and showing thier age. So no i cant imagine if EA or Ubisoft shut down thier servers that no one will ever play that game again because it was digital. How about what happens when you scratch your disk and it doesnt read anymore... you would have to buy a new one... not if its digital. Everyone focuses on the negatives but there are some pretty big posative aspects to digital.
This would be the end of affordable console gaming. They would be $59.99 FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS ON END. Plus, much less value with no resale. Steam enables all of this with huge discounts and super ease of use, but mostly huge discounts.
Depends on whos definition of affordable you are using. I can afford to pay $60 a game where maybe you cant... not to mention its a supply and demand issue. If no one is buying the game at $60 they will lower the price. Selling 10 copies at $45 beats selling zero at $60... simple economics. And to those who may disagree why would anything go on sale if that were not the case? Including the consoles themselves. even Sony has stayed the course and not lowered the price of its console because its selling at the price its at where MS has lowered it three times now i think. Its how markets work.
If disc didn't need to install and take up space they would be worth obtaining, but since they do take up hd space I might as well buy digital just for the ease of selecting what game I want to play instead of disc swapping
It's not like you can't delete the game when you're not playing it. They don't take long to reinstall in most cases. In any case, running out of space is going to happen either way, and it's a lot faster to install a game off disc than it is to download it again. Even partial installs from download aren't as fast even with the fastest internet.
The only way to make me accept going fully digital, is if you can download and save games externally like GOG allows. Not to mention whatever patches that are released. No DRM whatsover.
Digital only means bend over and take it hard. Until the day comes when digital is cheaper than physical copies then forget it I'm physical copies any day of the week over digital. BF4 Premium is till $99 on psn store yet bought physical copy in store for $68 its a no brainer which copy I be picking up.
why buy digital when it cost the same price.... lol... i like the physical aspect.. like getting off your butt to visit the stores..
After being shutout of witcher 3 because of X1 license issues, I am going back to physical only.
I buy most of my PS Vita games digitally because they are often times cheaper digitally and you have the added perk of not having to carry around a bunch of really small cartridges. As for my home consoles, I still prefer physical, although I do buy digital from time to time esp. if a game is only released digitally.
You mean home console gamers since they'll be even more at the mercy of the hardware manufacturers. The PC crowd long moved on from physical discs.
I do all digital and I'll be getting a 2 TB hard drive soon. Don't care about the box anymore, I would rather buy video game posters of whatever game I like instead.
I buy digital 100% of the time for PC. I have 200+ games installed on my HDD and ready to play at the click of a button. I can't imagine having to manage all of those games physically. For console games I often by physically as you tend to be able to find better deals as PSN and Xbox Live do not have competition like Steam has.
Game companies wet dream is a world with no discs, then we never own games we just rent them till the day we stop paying our accounts plus selling used games would become extinct.
All my games are Digital, your point?
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