GGG makes the argument why all PS4/XB1 models should come with 1TB hard drives.
it's not that big a deal for the PS4 because you can upgrade later. But for the XB1, people should get the biggest internal drive they can to start.
I can't agree with that statement at all. It's easier for Xbox One owners. All you do is plug in an external hard drive. With PS4 you have to remove the internal hard drive install a bigger one then re-download all your previous content.
I'd rather have a larger internal disk than have an external disk hanging off a console. It takes up ports, possibly a spot in the power strip that I don't have (if not usb powered). It's less convenient. That's my personal preference
Well as far as taking up a use port Xbox One has 3 and PS4 has two so that wouldn't be a problem adding a external drive at all. We just have different opinions i guess and that's fine. Haha
@uth11...this has to be the coolest, most aesthetically pleasing design for a hdd expansion i have seen. It certainly is better looking than that 3.5" hdd add-on for the PS4. plus it gives more USB ports. it's far easier to add-on than it is to replace. just think about that for a moment. 360 has hdd expansion, wii-u has hdd expansion and xb1 has hdd expansion. PS3 and PS4 only offer hdd replacement. you have to backup your data then restore it or download everything again. the only advantage is you can buy your own hdd and install it. but that advantage comes with disadvantages as well. http://www.amazon.com/Colle...
@darth - that is a great design! I couldn't see it at first :)
Add RAM drive slot, Loading would be so much shorter.
That is a nice enclosure. Really fits well with the system. Much better than the Nyko one for PS4, which is sufficient, but kind of ruins the lines of the system itself. Anyhow, USB cables can be long enough that you can stick an external in the back of an entertainment case. Not ideal for everyone, but removes the need for it being out in the open or looking unseemly.
It doesn't take up ports in the power strip. Stop coming up with excuses. If the playstation offered external drive support you would use it. Point blank period. I know I will. I can't wait until they do offer it. You don't even see the drive at all. I haven't seen mine in months as it just sits behind the console. As far as the USB ports go, how many are you actually using on the console? Better not put a flash drive it takes up a port. Don't plug in your controller to charge it takes up a port. That's what ports are for to be used. EDIT: Yes it is your personal "preference" but it doesn't make sense to say people should buy the biggest they can when it doesn't affect you. You can buy the biggest you want, you're still spending money (your money). My opinion is that the consoles should have launched with nothing less than a 1tb inside, but they didn't.
It depends on your hard drive. Many 3 1/2" external drives need more power than USB can provide. Of the 3 external drives I have, two need separate power.
Wrong lol it's necessary for PS4 owners who don't want to open up their console and install a harddrive that is more expensive than an easier-to-do cheaper plug and play external drive for X1. Sony should really offer support for external storage as that is one thing I really like about my X1 over the PS4.
Your wrong, 2tb internal 62.00 2tb external 62.00. Time to install 2.5" internal , err 5 mins tops. Connect to internet and it sorts itself out. Most clever people install the bigger drive at the start. Can I also just mention that external hard drive support was added to xb1 later. Internal over external all day long
Yes. Considering how big games are nowadays
Personally I would prefer a faster internal to cut down loading times, external is great for storing your games and randomly playing something on spur of the moment.
1 TB? More like 2 TB's. Even then 2 TB's is unlikely to last too long with 30-50..and eventually 100GB games coming. If someone really wants to have enough to last through the end of the decade, they need to look at 4-6-8 TB drives. That's why 2 TB's should be the standard. They are also not too terribly expensive. I've been getting them for my PC for about $69-99 for about 4 years now. Even the 2TB I have in my PS4 now only cost $99 last year. With the costs decreasing for the hardware, they really should throw those savings into a 2TB drive. Bite the bullet and ride the 2TB drive cost decreases as the 4,6, and 8 TB models start dropping into the $75-125 range, you can get a 4TB right now for $129 at newegg. Also why Sony went with notebook hard drives is a bit sketchy. Desktop hard drives aren't that much bigger, what about 3/4 of an inch or so bigger. Bigger, faster, and cheaper hard drives for desktop ones. Their next model should allow that without the modding that's needed currently.
3.5" drives are considerably larger in physical size than 2.5" They are taller and longer 3.5" hard drives need a bit more power, they put out more heat, and they are generally less shock resistant than notebook drives. It makes complete sense from an engineering standpoint. But the downside is it's hard to find drives larger than 2Gb in 2.5" at the moment
Guess this a one sided article now , cause one console has made it official. That it's selling a console w/ 1TB Internal storage.
If there trying to sell more consoles they couldnt be more off base. I seriously doubt someone didn't buy one because of lack of storage. I get they need more storage. But they really need to be 2 TB minumum. Take it from someone that has been running a 2 TB PS4 and a 4.5 TB Xbox One. 1 TB will not be enough for long term. You wana know why I bought both consoles? Exclusive games. PERIOD. Not lack of storage space. Give us more exclusives. Now comes the part where you tell me to uninstall something and I didn't have to get all that storage. I'm laughing. If I install something, it stays for life. LOL
With that much data to potentially lose, you should think about using a USB RAID 1 enclosure for your XO. Here's one that works with the XO. http://www.amazon.com/Media... You can use a RAID 5\10 enclosure that can be faster, though I prefer RAID 1 enclosures that don't make the drives dependent on the RAID logic; that way, the XO can read from either disk outside of the enclosure, by using a USB adapter. @Disagree, I don't know how anyone can sleep well at night with over 1TB of data loss possible and potentially weeks of frustration looming, if the disk fails. PSUs and hard disks are what fail most in computers... they're practically guaranteed to fail, given enough time. SSD is becoming a good option, though a RAID enclosure is less expensive than SSD for the same or much more space, and the first generations of SSDs were scary in how they could just brick one day without warning (I generally only use Samsung SSDs now, the 850 EVOs are great... to maximize space, my systems use 3 of them in RAID-5 for 1500MB reads and 850 writes without requiring a RAID card... on Intel chipsets, only writes are faster at 1250MB with 3 disk RAID 0... the chipset maxes at 1500MB reads). If wanting the ultimate in performance and reliability, get two RAID 5 enclosures (second for failover) and use RAID 5 to maximize space while the SSDs maximize the enclosure's throughput... I think anyone that has lots of money should go that route, if they're serious about collecting XO games. What XO really needs is a backup feature similar to PS4, especially since it's better designed for that, because PS4 requires an ugly cable sticking out the front when leaving a backup drive connected.
also no one mentions the fact that PS 4 upgrading HDD will connect via SATA 3 cable where's XBOX one external HDD would be USB 3.0. I might be wrong on this but SATA 3 cable is a much better way to transfer data compared to USB 3.0. I would like to hear your thoughts on this and if it really does make a difference in data transfer speed ?
I don't know if there is 100% confirmation that the PS4 operates at SATA III (6.0Gbps) or SATA II (3.0Gbps) speeds natively, though it is always best to get a SATA III supported drive if you upgrade just in case. USB3.0's [theoretical] peak is 5.0Gbps (faster than SATA II, but a bit slower than SATA III). http://www.macworld.com/art... http://www.pcworld.com/arti... It should be noted though due to the USB standard setup, the bus speed is SHARED across all USB devices on the bus (or HUB). If you have only one USB3.0 device reading and writing it has full use of that 5.0Gbps maximum, but two devices being used at the same time cuts that in half, three and thirds, and so on. This is the Achilles' heel of USB. [Section 7 - Limitations] http://www.techrepublic.com...
interesting, thx for you reply comment. I would assume PS4 operates with SATA 3 cables since SATA 3 seems to be the norm now a days. bubble added for you GameSpawn
For me 2 TB should last me the entire gen. A 1TB XO plus a 1tb external drive and I'll be set. Currently I have space for about 1 more AAA title and I'm imagining if I had an additional 1.5 TB worth of storage. I'll be well off no doubt, I might not even need 2tb, 1.5 might be enough.
Ill be happy with external support for ps4 i dont want to go to the trouble of opening my ps4( and i know its easy but i dont like it)
By the end of this gen we'll be at 12TB
The maximum storage for each system shouldbe there from launch day. It makes gamers happy they will have enough storage to buy games long into the future
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I am surprised people aren't bitching that sony and ms didn't include ssd in the consoles. Neither system is hard to upgrade the storage, this sounds more like people complaining because they have to spend money to get more storage capacity. Because both sony and ms had to cut costs somewhere. And sony will likely release a 1tb version and drop $25-50 on the old 500 gig or bundle a game with it and keep the regular price to clear inventory. Like we didn't see many times last gen the lower capacity models phased out and replaced with larger hard drive models. You can get a 1 tb 2.5 inch drive for $60-70 and a 1 tb 3.5 inch drive and enclosure for $50-60, it is really not that expensive.
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