Dan, Joe and their special guests Martini, and Billy Z talk about Used games. Does the used game market hurt publishers and Developers, or does the used game market help reach out to customers?
yes, first of all many can't afford to buy a lot of new games. so they trade/sell their used games to buy new ones. also sometimes we will pick up a game used much later after release for cheap because we am not willing to pay a lot for a game we don't know much about used games have their place in gaming IMO
* Used games are great for discovering and trying out a series of games you've never played before, but maybe always wanted to. It's also great for people late to the party, in that they can spend $100 and get 4-10 games.
Yes no doubt, like I said they do have a place in gaming. And used games help a lot of people who may end up liking the game and buy future games in the series and also may buy the dlc which in return will help the developers Lighter9 No doubt lol help a lot of people who don't have huge gaming budget
Another couple of reasons used games are good. 1) Push to offer more credit for preorders actually help Publisher sales as much as they won't admit it. Those pre-order numbers help the publisher too. 2) It keeps IP longevity going for longer spans. Just consider if you let an IP idle for years while the new game is in development and how being able to buy or rebuy old games while you wait keeps customers interested.
They help poor folk, like me and smart shoppers.
Thanks to PC gaming, I can get games on the cheap and keep them! Helps me and the devs.
They arent cheap cause you don't own them and your busy spending money on hardware.
It's about simple economics. It helps consumers retailers and publishers/devs. More money changes hands both directions. buying used helps the consumer and retailer. When a game is sold it puts money back into consumers hands who then have extra expendable cash to buy other gaming items accessories, games, gift cards etc helping out other companies in the gaming space. removing a market like used games just cause gamers to spend less or wait til much lower prices anyways.
the market you speak of is not controlled, therefore there is no proof the money ever gets back to the people making the games. musicians can still survive by touring even if their music gets pirated because word of mouth may have a positive effect by a growing fanbase that will want to see them play live.
Thats very true, they could get less money back and spend it any any store, but that further stimulates the economy in general. Usually if its a gamer they'll ask for credit if its a gamestop, so that money would go back into gamestop and the general game industry in some fashion. The music industry is a different beast, i agree. But i'd rather the developers innovate and give incentives for preordering or buying new. (good incentives not just a free gun or skin.)
***Full Disclosure*** I own and operate my own used video game store. I have said this many times before but one thing so many people overlook is the exposure side of this. What is the one thing every company that produces a product want the most? To get their product into the consumers hands. Used games are often times an entry into a series... Most people might try a series for the first time used, but then once they like it they will preorder the next and buy it day one. The issue is and will always be the quality of product. If you have a quality product people will buy AND keep it. When Skyrim first came out you couldn't find a used copy hardly anywhere. I still struggle to get copies of GTA V for the current generation in because its good and full of content. Make a good game and people will buy it... its always been that simple.
You hit the nail on the head my friend! I mentioned that in the podcast, that if it wasn't for used games I would have never gotten into some of my favorite games like Dead Space and Mass Effect. Best example was battlefield 3. I bought it used on the 360 loved it so much that I bought it again when I switched over to a PS3, and then when I built my first rig it was one of the first games I bought and downloaded... I really liked it... I have a problem.
Used games keep some of the power in consumer hands. Everyone has this fanciful dream that companies like EA would operate like steam. Yeah good luck with that. Look at digital consoles game, digital games remain at full retail price of 60$ regardless of the fact logistics have been cut out of the equation. Then there is the fact the games remain full retail for almost two years after release. Used games have a place just like used books, cars and any other used product.
I totally agree with you. My question for you is with the recent decision by steam to allow digital content to be returned, do you think we are a few steps away to trade in digital content?
used games are a good thing, we get to sell our old games and buy newer ones with a good discount.
Ummm under the first sale doctrine law, the consumer has the legal right to buy used games.
I think the only problem with trading in used games is the value for the games you trade in. Don't get me wrong people who complain about getting 3 bucks for FIFA 11 are just being silly. But if i were to trade in The Witcher The Wild Hunt I'd only get back 27 bucks in store credit. Yet, Gamestop is going to sell it back for 55 bucks. To me thats just a tad greedy. I'm not asking for the whole value for the game but i least give me half of what i paid for. Yet, of course you can always go through ebay or craigslist. But it takes a longer time.
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