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No please no:/
I doubt it will be on PS3/360 those are so old now.
I'm with you and I don't mean it because of the graphics like most around here. I wan't more possibilities! More sandbox! Only possible on next-gen hardware.
Nice to see company's still support the old (last) gen
How is that a good thing? It keeps the medium from Progressing.
He was either saying it to get a rise outta people or hes a cheapskate.
Progressing how? Better graphics is all I've seen from current-gen exclusives, and I can do without a focus on graphics. AI is still just as dumb as ever, if not moreso than previous gens (FEAR still blows most games away). Nothing really has been pushed forward other than polygons. Hell, just compare Fallout 2 to its successors to see that we've mostly regressed outside of graphics.
Err, consoles keep the medium from progressing. CDPR seem to be the only developer that will say this out loud. Oh that's right, because they're not in bed with Sony or MS, nor owned by scum like EA or Ubisoft, being paid to spout positive crap about the new consoles.
@Dynasty2021 Apparently you didn't actually read what CDPR said. They said, The Witcher 3 wouldn't be the same game scale wise, content wise, without consoles. Do consoles in general hold back the medium? Yes and no. Without console sales, people wouldn't be able to make games with the budgets they have. Now, if every console gamer became a PC gamer, then you wouldn't have that problem. But, consoles have benefits over PCs (just like PCs has benefits over consoles), and that will never happen.
no. not nice. it seriously affects games! like destiny! bungie needs to drop last gen support and that game will be so much better for it
Edit: Damm, did it again, meant to reply to DirtyPimp below. No, that's the cost of waiting...you buy a console dirt cheap, you got a ton of great games to play but you aren't necessarily entitled to new games being developed in 2015 and beyond, that's exactly why NEW HARDWARE is made to progress the industry and do more with the medium, not stagnate to let those who chose to wait forever hold progress back so "the lil kiddies can play too". Excuse my tone, but that's just how I feel.
Could you give examples of how it affects games?
@rainslacker http://www.technobuffalo.co... Here is one example and that's just a little thing. It also effected the size of the maps and player count etc.
The last generation lasted way too long, and held back developers for for far too long as is. This would not be a good thing. I like the idea of dropping $300 - 500 on a box that could last you a decade. That's awesome from a consumer standpoint. But, at the end of the day, it's at the expense of what is otherwise a rapidly evolving medium. @dirty So now all those people who bought a shiny new PC/PS4/One - the same who have been supporting new titles and the advancements the industry has been making - now have to be held back by those who waited a decade to grab one of the last gen consoles? Yeah. . . that's logical.
I agree, some folks just bought a ps3 and want to play the game too and i think its funny how people are acting like its such a huge deal, you enjoyed fallout 3 on ps3 xbox didnt ya? Let the folks who bought a ps3 do the same.
Then people with X1/PS4 have to deal with dumbed down gameplay elements. The 360/PS3 are a decade old now, just let them die peacefully
We should still put movies on VHS while we are at it, too.
If you just bot a ps3/Xbox 360. Then your not a true gamer, and your holding gamers back.
No, it's very bad to see.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo . why you never learn, greedy bastards
I was really really hyped for F4, but if this is true, my hype levels will immediately and violently fall to almost nil. Bethesda are really going to piss me off...
so true. We have been waiting for Fallout for years... It needs to be the best it can be. Not gimped because of old tech. In the words of Angry Joe... "Besthesda... if this is true... then you done fu3ked it up!" sigh...
Can't be true
Boooo. Gotta break from the old gen sometime, this would really suck for PS4/Xbone if true.
And for PC
True, guess I could have listed PC as well. PC does have the benefit of modding down the line though/people have definitely done cool things with the fallout games on PC. Consoles - we really just have to hope they do it right the first time.
Noooooo! Just move on already!
I hope this is not true either.
Keep last gen away. The Witcher has shown me what current gen can do, can't go back after that.
Yeah, hiding sub-par gameplay behind shiny graphics and large, empty worlds. Such a marvel this gen is.
Haven't played BloodBorne or the Witcher have you, nice try.
If there's one thing I can rely on to say this isn't true, Bethesda and PS3 do not mix.
I would be very disappointed to hear. That said, if they handle it similar to Forza Horizon 2 was I might be more comfortable with it. Basically hire an outside studio to port over the game you are making. The main team making Fallout 4 is focused only X1, PS4 & PC and not worried about what may or may not work for last gen. Let the hired studio deal with porting and gimping function, etc...as needed to make it run on last gen.
Let the air outta the balloon if this is true.
If anything, design the game with PC and current gen consoles in mind. After all of that, see if you can work some things around, making a proper last gen port of the game for those interested. Last generation lasted far too long as it was.
Yeah last gen was the longest console generation I believe. A straight 7 years.
Oh god.. not another downgraded crossgen game like Watch Dogs and Far Cry 4. The 360 and PS3 are a decade old. I was like 10, in the 5th grade and had just started middle school when the 360/PS3 came out. I am 21 now. IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.
Bethesda are not stupid, they know that the current gen of consoles do not yet have a large install base. They will get a ton more sales by including 360 and PS3.
And if the result is them, yet again, regurgitating their broken engine to the masses, I am not going to be happy. Their in-house engine is terrible. Nobody wants to work with it. Those who have . . . only horror stories. They can't even get it to perform nicely.
PS4 = 22 milion users Xbone = 13 million users Steam = 100 million users I think it's safe to say this rumor is bs, and so is the logic.
To be fair, less than half of the Steam users would actually be able to run the game to any proper degree. But I agree nonetheless. That's still more than enough of a market for the game to do extremely well, and without limiting it in hopes of catering to now overly aged tech.
The HUGE LOLZ! ...those are lessor then PS3 and 360 and I agree with Slaphappy on this one, less then half steam owners would likely even have what I would call, next gen ready PC's. All you did is actually show how much MORE likely it is. Mind you...could they not just have 2 teams? One could be making Fallout 4 in a much more scaled down form on PS3 and 360. ie Titanfall, Tomb Raider etc.
PC and PS4 seem to be the best place to play considering there are more people.
Not stupid? They are if they release it on old gen. Destiny has been hugely held back thanks to the old gen consoles, and that game has sold like 1:4 old gen to current gen. There are hardly any old gen players playing the game on old consoles. The real gamers, the ones who buy their games, have moved to the ps4 xb1 awhile ago.
Fallout 3 needed more horse power back when it was released, so i can't see the next one being supporting by last gen, if they do they are asking for trouble. Last gen consoles are still relivant, but not for a game on this scale im afraid. Just my thoughts.
Goes to show how great the last gen consoles were, this new gen doesn't come close to what they were.
You do know that your comment is stupid. The last Gen isn't as strong as this one. Last Gen I'd holding this Gen back because it's not as powerful so they have to dumb down the game for ps4 and 360. So when we get it for ps4 and x1 it sucks because it had to be scaled to fit on both. So your comment is dumb and I hope it was a joke.
"This" Gen will never get anywhere, if Last gen is still hanging on. Of course nothing will be better. All new games need to go to PS4,PC and XB1 for now on.
Still excited, but would be more excited for a current gen only Fallout.
I hope it is not holding back the current consoles/PC
Man, I hope not. Then again I GUESS they have to cover their losses. I really wish everyone would just get with the program and get current gen. (but I know, not enough folks feel there are enough games to justify) what a f**king mess.
Please... Forget last gen.
If we've been waiting for this for so long and they don't take advantage of next gen consoles I'd be so ticked off
I was thinking the samething XD
Im still getting it day one, but last gen consoles is really disappointing. With a game of Fallouts size, there is no way it will not be held back.
Please no! Please! NO!!!
I seriously doubt this. Its been years since a new Fallout has dropped, I would think that Bethesda would not want to waste their time making a huge game like Fallout cross gen.
What if its not? What if Bethesda has another team working on a last gen version of Fallout 4 that is in another engine and Fallout 4 on PS4, XONE and PC is actually being done in a full ground up next gen engine? I mean it is feasible.
Then so be it. I seriously doubt that Fallout 4 would lack or even be disappointing just because the game was also on the PS360.
If the game is to bring the changes to the engine necessary, then the entire world and story would have to be different. Novigrad would not exist on last-gen consoles. We had to make do with small villages like Solitude and Windhelm. The only way this would work, realistically, is if they did what Ubisoft did and made two completely different games (as with Rogue and Unity). If Fallout 4 has been made for consoles, it will undoubtedly be far worse than it might otherwise have been.
that would most likely be a bummer unless they did the forza horizon 2 approach, where the last gen version was developed completely independently of the current gen version.
This is a major disappointment if it holds true. Last gen already had its share of fallout, time to move on and take full advantage of the PS4/XB1 hardware for FO4. Considering how long it takes them to develop FO games, it would completely suck having to wait another 8 years for FO5 to play a version that *hopefully* takes full advantage of whatever new hardware is in use at that time.
I hope to hell they aren't still using the same shitty engine as 3, New Vegas and Skyrim are. That thing should have died out with the PS2.
That would be the Gamebryo engine, which Bethesda has been using since Oblivion. (And, fun fact, they accomplished much more demanding stuff with it in Oblivion than they did in ANY of the subsequent games). If it is indeed a cross-generation game, it's all but-certain Fallout 4 will use Gamebryo, too.
No No No No NO NO NO NOO NOOO NOOOO NOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Say it aint so Bethesda. I am really looking forward to their current gen rpgs. If fallout 4 is cross platform i don't know what I'll do.
Why limit your game with old tech ? The new consoles are already limiting them.
Never got into the Fallout series but if this is true it will hinder the graphics on current gen.
If Fallout 4 is the current-gen masterpiece that it deserves to be, there's now way it could be on the same systems that gave us Fallout 3 almost a decade ago.
BOOOOOO Screw last gen they had their time why do this in 2015 even Call of dudey and Assasins greed aren't that greedy BOOOOOO.