A completely subjective opinion on Skyrim’s definitive position as the perfect RPG.
It was phenomenal but I should have waited 6 months or so before I played it because the quest bugs and glitches really tarnished my experience of the game but it still maDe my top 10 of the generation, which is why I'm waiting til Christmas for TW3...well that and I don't want to spend 100+ hours sitting indoors during summertime! Can you count Mass Effect 2 as an RPG? If so thats my favourite game of the last gen
Fallout 3/NV Dragon dogma and now Witcher 3 are the top RPGs for me
Skyrim is very cheaply made ...far from best RPG title ..Dragons Dogma trashes Skyrim with ease
@breakpad I still think Dragon Dogma offer the best combat when it comes to RPG games it just too much fun and the monsters are incredible in that game and the way you fight them is pretty fun Very underrated game
Dragons Dogma is definitive RPG of last gen to me. A lot of end-game content. Wither 3 so far is phenomenal and I'm 40 hours in.
https://www.youtube.com/wat... DragonDogma was poorly made. Alot of potential but no where near Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Knights of the Old Republic, Skyrim, Witcher, Oblivion, Elder Scrolls, Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Xenogears, Final Fantasy, Fallout, Demon Souls...you get the picture. I mean it's a Capcom game, what is there to expect?
Thats too bad, Ive played many a Bethesda title before Skyrim so i mostly knew what to avoid to avoid breaking the game or exposing myself to the glitches and bugs also the problems were very heavily outweighed by the shear amazingness that was Skyrim. I honestly dont see how any game can stack up to skyrim (especially on PC) that game is just phenomenal although i do prefer Oblivion.
Fallout 3 still takes the cake for me. An unrivaled RPG masterpiece. Skyrim was great but i felt it was dumbed down from Oblivion.
I agree, Oblivion is my personal favorite! I do love the games though!
Which was dumbed down from Morrowind, best TES IMO.
Tried so hard to get into Morrowind but i just could not. Im not really a fan of elves and elvish things, i certainly prefer the more western styles of oblivion/skyrim. To many pointy things i guess. But omg there was like a million different weapon types in Morrowind what happened to Halberds :(
Morrowind with the graphics overhaul is awesome.
Agreed. Grab a basket. place over merchants head steal everything not glued down remove basket from merchant's head steal basket and go to jail.... Add that to the fact that you can max out all skill trees in a few hours. The menus are all screwed up. Magic is beyond pointless and doesn't scale properly. Endless bugs and glitches Broken on PS3 for a year Please tell my how this game is perfect. The mods on pc are the only exceptional thung about it.
I think Western RPG should be in the title, just an opinion. They are quite different usually.
I prefer a somewhat linear story. So... I don't really like Skyrim. But I played it for hours and hours and hours. I totally get the appeal.
With that horrid gameplay? lol.
Skyrim is a great game. A fantastic game. But it's a -terrible- RPG. Which means that all those people who think it is a good RPG simply because it is a good game, are collectively lowing the genre's standards of quality--making everything worse for everyone.
This. As an RPG, Skyrim is really, really awful. People who hate on Skyrim are typically gamers who insist on judging it as an RPG, instead of the lite-action fantasy sandbox that it is.
Whenever I play an RPG, there's always a feeling like, "If it just did [Blank], it would be perfect." With Skyrim it was the combat. There's one and only one RPG I've played that doesn't give me that feeling at all. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. That is by far my favorite RPG of all time. Standing above Fallout 3, Skyrim, DA: Origins. I love it so god damn much. On a side note, I'm a little annoyed at Steam. The amount of time I've spent playing Witcher 1-3 has given them the impression that my favorite games include nudity, so my homepage is being filled with recommendations for japanese porn visual novels. :/
You should try Bloodborn better combat than the witcher
I've never been a fan of from software. I've heard that Bloodborne's combat is a lot more kinetic and fluid than the Souls games, but in the souls games, it just felt so clunky to me. :/
I'm just clicking on this article to comment and say OPINION articles really don't matter here and nobody cares about your opinion.
And your opinion about the author having an opinion is any better?
There is no way skyrim is the king of rpgs, No way.
Boring and forgettable characters and story, dumbed down rpg elements, and poor combat plages skyrim. It does plenty right but also plenty wrong.
If you like exploration in a somewhat bland world or modding the heck out of your RPG, perhaps it's the king. But, to be honest, not even close to king as a general RPG. Or, if you like the same bugs and issues that were present in Morrowind in your modern-day Bethesda RPG, then it's definitely the king.
*Goes back to playing Grandia*
Personally I'm enjoying The Witcher 3 a lot more than Skyrim. Story is more interesting and the exploration is a lot better.
Oblivion is way better. Skyrim was smoother yes, because it was newer but they sacrificed a lot of stuff for the sake of graphics. SOmething n4g community doesn't understand. Better graphics equals dumbed down gameplay due to lack of resources. Oblivion is a better and more advanced sandbox. NPC's in Oblivion actually change clothes when going to sleep. They also have simulated conversations about random things, when one character asks a random question and another gives random answer that fits the question. This turns into actually quite cool conversations and gave a lot of life to the world, unlike skyrims skripted and poor events. They also got good memory and way to express it. Try to annoy an NPC and he'll always give you an angry look. This things are completely absent in Skyrim, due to improvements in graphics. If gamers would care more about gameplay, devs would invest in it and we would be so much closer to have huge worlds without limitations. Now it's just all about graphics. No matter how crap the game is, as long as it looks good everyone will chant "GOTY GOTY!". Only phenomen was minecraft but there are other reasons for that. so in short...as much as I like Skyrim and as much as I love Witcher, Oblivion is the king.
In terms of overall WRPGs, yes, I'm with you. Oblivion REMAINS the King!
Agree - will not be surpassed soon. Dragon Age came closest.
The Witcher 3 > Skyrim
My sentiments, exactly. I much prefer The Witcher III's story, use of magic, women, and traveling system (yes, Roach is badass and moves very quickly). Thus, it's 2015, and The Witcher III is the best RPG I've played in ages.
"Use of women" ok we know what you are looking for...
@ CaptainTom: It's always good to read the punctuation very closely. I said, "use of magic >,< women". The comma is the key element. To the point, the women in The Witcher are much more attractive (The Elder Scrolls has always struggled with this, outside of mods) and engaging to the story. They feel more alive and important to the storyline, here.
It's 2015 and Morrowind is still superior to Skyrim.
Morrowind is still the best game have ever played... period. I see some of the younger gamers have a strong desire to have more challenging combat in their games. You might not realize it, but what you really crave is more Action Adventure games. RPG's shouldn't require challenging combat to be considered great. That's my biggest gripe with the souls series (it plays like an Action Adventure with RPG elements.
Souls isn't hard if you just Git Gud.
Witcher 3 is good, but I would definitely put Fallout 3, New Vegas, Oblivion and Skyrim before it for modern RPG's. Witcher 3 just game out, and I think there is still some heavy recency bias going around.
Final Fantasy VI/VII and IX are vastly superior than Skyrim in terms of story and gameplay.
Hard to compare The FF ps1 games to a modern day wrpg like skyrim. Not that i necessary disagree with you I just cant agree with you either. That being said, no way is a Final fantasy game still the King of rpgs , as much as i wished they where.
I don't know, i felt both oblivion and morrowind were far better RPGs. Skyrims world felt very conservative and everything was so copy/paste it was ridiculous. Not to mention the gimped attributes, i mean why would you have LESS abilities than your previous games? Makes no sense
It wasn't even the king of the series...
Skyrim with mods is good but without them it looks so dull and doesn't feel alive
king of buggy yup yup/s but skyrim with no bugs without the doubt top rpg game to have
Gotta love video game hipsters that hate on skyrim cause they liked the elder scrolls series before it was cool. Even with the bugs skyrim pulled me into its world like no other game has before and I've been a gamer for 30 years. I put over 400 hours into that game and wanted to see every nook and cranny in the game and still never saw everything.
Jade Empire or Kotor were great rpg's I'd like to see real sequels to those rpg games. Probably not the most popular opinion but jrpg games hold a top spot more for me than skyrim.
I don't really take to games with tones of dark textures and grainy graphics, so that rules fallout and skyrim out. I really prefer bright and vibrant games like witcher 3. It just feels so much better for me anyway.
My favorite RPG game is still Final Fantasy Tactics. I still dream about waking up one day and seeing that Final Fantasy Tactics 2 is being made. Actually it kind of is. The guy who made FFT is making a game called Unsung Story. I haven't heard anything about it for a while hope it didn't get cancelled.
Final fantasy 4 6 and 7 all still rate incredibly high up there for me too.
The complexity of Skyrim is unrivaled, its fully of bugs but a lot of it is based on the shire amount of algorithms. The fact that Skyrim is even being compared to The Witcher 3 is sorta a complement to Skyrim more then Witcher 3. Love Witcher series, but its not ES and will never be ES, it never even tries to be ES. They are just too different. About one character, set story etc. Skyrim is just way to vast and has a wealth of options. I play both for just way, way different experiences.
The king of mods more like it.
King of sales and popularity for RPG's maybe, but it's about as much of an RPG as Call of Duty. Hell At least CoD had more sensible writing in it's campaign.
The Witcher coughs awkwardly on its throne across the room.
hmm, dunno, i will go with skyrim. mind you, only around 20h into TW3, but to me it might take the crawn.
Skyrim is pretty great, how ever, I loved Oblivion more. Skyrim is missing that charm Oblivion had. Never played Morrowind though :(
skyrim indeed excell in *certain* areas,but i think it not deserve to be called "King of rpg"...by selling millons of copies not necessary indicate the game's quality indeed,skyrim had influence latest rpg in open-world mechanics...but other than that,the game had very lot flaw like very bad combat,repititive quest,inventory issue and others stuff...not mention there lot of unfixed bugs by calling a game 'the best' factored lot of aspect mechanically and include the content....lot of gamers complained of 'lifeless &boring' world,very boring final boss fight ,incapable of resume the game after stop playing it and do the game had memorable cast?story are very good?indeed it has rich lore but are it indicate that the game whole surpass other rpg outhere?not mention tons of very excelent jrpg with memorable story and character modding played vital role to skyrim vitality...it is right to calling it "king" due to fan mod?even the graphics beatiful due to mod,the game itself,the mechanics were very flawed and i personally thinks far inferiors to other rpg out there skyrim is one of example 'quality vs quantity' big open world doesnt make a game great..not mention it feels really empty..lot of aspect need to verified...the game selling success factored lot of aspect include the game design and mechanics that accessible to casual gamers...do it make a great games?not neccesary....do call of duty that selling millions every year was king of shooter?of course not that easy...lot of underated games overpowered skyrim last gen..not mention this gen where we got witcher 3,and it still far cry from well known rpg like ff7,persona 3/4,dark soul and one of latest,bloodborne....not mention dragons dogma i personally recomend this article author to tried other rpg like dragons dogma because it seems like he/she didnt played other rpg by much..and 'rpg' include both all 'j','c','w ' and others related genre...
I don't know. I found the setting of Skyrim to be pretty dull and boring. Basically the whole map was snowy mountains. It may have a much more polished battle and leveling system but I still enjoyed Oblivion and Morrowind more.
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