The U.S. release date has been listed for the upcoming PlayStation 4 HDD Data Bank.
The Xbox One battery charger at the bottom of the page looks like a stapler as well. Matter of fact, most of Nyko's stuff looks like crap this gen.
i got that battery charger it might looks ugly but it saves money on batteries and i can charge 2 at once just swap and charge the other i give that thing a 5/5
Lol! I thought it was a stapler! After I read your comment I had to go back and check!
@TheCommentator, I agree a lot of this stuff looks like crap. I had 2 Energizer controller chargers last gen for the PS3 and 360. They looked good being black with chrome accents. I bought the Energizers again for this gen and they don't have the chrome accents anymore. They are grey color and look cheap as hell.
The Data Bank looks like it's ready to read a floppy disc. I'm talking them old school ones from back when they were actually floppy.
@dragonknight You're right, lol! I haven't seen one of those 5 1/4" drives for at least 30 years, back when HDDs were measured in MBs and screens had 4 to 16 colors at best. Those were the days...
I know right. But it's a good job I don't look at my console when I am playing games.
For some reason, reminds me of the beginning of BladeRunner. But not on this PS4..... Collective Minds make great accessories.. Media Hub for X1 looks like it was always part of the console.
the money you'll save though is not hideous...
Why would you save money? How many hdd's do you plan to buy?
@bumnut Cost per GB is a little less on 3.5" drives vs 2.5" drives and the capacity cap is much higher (the main reason people want this). Personally I would avoid this not because it looks like a pimple (it does), but because 3.5" drives generate quite a bit of heat and require more power to run than 2.5" drives. I already suspect this enclosure provides the extra power needed by 3.5" drives, but does it also include additional airflow to cool the drive?
Actually it looks like a piece of futuristic architecture. Like it would be a building in Yokohama, Japan. Not hideous, less slim, but still looks more interesting than a VHS player.
I think this is interesting....definitely something I'd be into in the future.
Yeah visually I agree not that appealing, but the functionality is tempting.
Yet your pic is hideous too.
I'm not a fan of it, but its good to have options.
Speaking of fan lol, is there a fan for this device and does it self ventilate? It seems rather dangerous to have this device sit on top of your ps4 and not ventilate. I feel like the ps4 already runs over drive to keep it cool, this could potentially overheat the console and ruin it.
Nyko is also putting out a PS4 intercooler so maybe overheating the PS4 will sell more of those,or so Nyko hopes so.
That side of the PS4 doesn't really heat up. Tested the temp just now and it's barely above room temp. This will be better off than the stock HD sitting inside.
I doubt the heat generated with a hard drive sitting on top of the system is going to be more of a problem than an internal hard drive. Hard drives don't run hot enough to actually damage internal components of a computer, but the added heat can cause problems, but in this case, the added heat isn't actually inside the console, nor does the PS4 ventilate from the top of the system. Also, you're greatly overstating how hot the PS4 gets.
@rainslacker Hard drives do get surprisingly hot. How hot varies wildly between manufacturers and models of drives, but in general 3.5" drives run hotter than 2.5" drives. I work in computer repair and have had numerous hard drives (various sizes and types) running on an external enclosure to recover data and after a few hours they do get very hot - not necessarily enough to burn you, but enough to be very noticeable. Even though that area of the system doesn't usually generate that much heat and the more important components are on the opposite end, it is still extra heat being introduced that the system was never initially designed for (aka another variable). Basically if anything DOES happen, Sony can invalidate any warranty claims because you have changed something beyond the initial design of the system (it's an extra variable out of their control). I'm not saying this is an entirely bad idea, it does mean MUCH larger drives for those that want it. I just caution people that there is always additional baggage when you introduce things like this that change how the system was engineered.
You don't even own a PS4
Just add the option for portable hard drives, i don't have the money to but a 2TB one so if they add the option for portable i will get 1TB plus what ever you get on the console, i think it is around the 300GB mark.
It would probably be less expensive to buy this accessory plus a 2TB internal HDD, than it would be to buy a 1TB external HDD. So if saving money is your goal, an internal HDD would be your most cost effective option.
Amazon also sells a 2.5 inch 2tb external hdd that you can take apart really easily and put it in the ps4 for $85. Which is actually cheaper than buying this device plus a 1 tb 3.5 inch drive.
@suc915, Do you know what it is called?
@saigon I'm pretty sure he means the Seagate Expansion 2tb portable drives. That's what I bought, it was cheaper than anything else and it had a 2.5in Samsung HDD inside
Difference in price between a 1 and 2 TB drive is about $10 for 2.5" drive. 3.5" can vary wildly based on features. Externals are usually about $10-15 more than the same capacity 2.5" drive which they typically house. I agree with the option for external HDD, but 3.5" HD's are actually cheaper for much larger capacities. So far, a 6TB drive has been shown to work with the PS4, and it's likely that it can go up to a few hundred TB's given the file system being used. If you're talking about using drives you already have, then that actually makes sense, and honestly it would be a nice feature to have.
For price, capacity and performance the best HDD is a 3.5" 6TB (at the moment) drive although if you want the drive to be internal you are limited to a 2.5" 2TB max (at the moment) drive. Obviously for the best performance you would want a 7200 rpm drive compared to a 5400 rpm drive and the price difference between the two speeds is not that much. Before anyone pipes up with "But Solid State Disks" are so much faster". In answer, yes they are but the price difference is enormous and in many respects it is not really justified. But if you have the money feel free :-) Choice of hard drive is of course dependent on what you want and what you can afford. Actually the cheapest solution is to purchase your games on media rather than by digital download since it does not take that long to start playing a game by reading it from BD disk rather than wait for it to download from your internet. This means you may have possibly up to 15 games on your 500GB HDD but you can delete to make rooms for other games and can be confident you can restore and play (room permitting) in a few minutes. If you prefer digital downloads that is fine but you are really dependent on your network connection if you wish to initially purchase or reinstall. Still the choice of upgrading your HDD and the obvious additional cost is yours to make.
Meh. 3rd party hardware dreck.
I was gonna get this at first with a 4TB hard drive but then it just scares me thinking this could possibly ruin my PS4 someday.
From what I've heard this is a very bad product. It doesn't have its own power supply which means it takes power from the PS4 and blocks the fan causing more heat. This guy made a video why it sucks and gave a better alternative. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Doesn't block a fan, it has a cable the plugs in to the PS4's power and the PS4's plug plugs into that. I think you can run it by using a plug outside of the PS4's, it only plugs into the PS4 to turn on when the PS4 is on.
It's not like the original 360 "Interkiller" which used power coming from the power supply. In this case, power is taken from the ac current going TO the power supply. I can't confirm ventilation or other heat issues.
This just sits on top of the PS4. it doesn't block the vents in the back. The power is just a pass-through power connector, not unlike an extension cord. The heat generated from a hard drive is hardly worth considering when it's not actually integrated into the system, and the cooling system of the PS4 doesn't even really take heat directly away from the HD as it is. This just removes that heat even further away from the main board, and adds a couple layers of plastic, which doesn't conduct heat well, between the hard drive and the internals, as opposed to a metal internal casing, which does conduct heat, and is full of holes to allow heat to pass through. Also, it's probably worth mentioning that the internal drive also takes power from the PS4. More than this device will since the power isn't directly supplied by the PS4, but from the current from the wall before it ever hits the internals of the PS4. This guy is going off a picture of the product, which doesn't show the back of the device, but beyond something that allows it to snap onto the PS4, I can't see it blocking the vents more than the size of the clips, which is going to be inconsequential at best. The rear of the PS4 is pretty much an open space, with just enough plastic vents to keep people from sticking their fingers in there. The side that this device sits on is where all the plugs and connectors go into the PS4, which isn't heavily ventilated to begin with.
Anyways, I'm getting this and adding a 5tb or 6tb. With games being patch like crazy, I think it be a good idea to get the hightest. Going to get a hybrid hard drive.
I'm going to jerryrig an external enclosure and just run the cables behind the system myself. I'll throw the enclosure somewhere in the back of my entertainment center then forget about it.:) Only thing that's delayed me so far is that I haven't needed a bigger HD yet, and when I finally do take the plunge I'm going to go for broke and get the biggest, fastest drive I can possibly afford.:)
Graphics card adapter is needed.
Yeah no. Look up the 32X. Graphics card adapters never work in the console gaming industry.
Plz just give us externall hdd sony plz
...just learn how to back up and replace the drive. I'm sorry but I don't get this concept of wanting this hot external plugged in your PS AT ALL TIMES...why? Mind you, you shorten the life of an external by doing that, externals are made to back up, they are not made to just stay on as HDD replacements. They can....but they will die FASTER then if you just back up and turn off. How I use my externals......back up, turn off....place in closet. Thats it. Its NEVER on if I'm not taking stuff off or adding something on it. I've never even used it to watch a film. It makes no sense. How to back up PS4 or PS3 as on a very, very busy weekend...I've done BOTH! Very recently. (about 2 weeks ago) 1.Got a 1TB drive for PS4 for about $50. 2.Backed up my PS4 and my PS3 on my external HDD. 3.Download both updates for PS4 and PS3 on a flash drive. 4.remove PS3 hdd (differs based on versions, I've done it BOTH on a PS3 fat twice and on a PS3 slim as the example PS3 is a slim). 5. Remove HDD of the PS4 (extremely easy, take off face plate, one blue screw to take out the HDD out of the cage, the same screw driver use to take out the next 4 screws holding the HDD in place) ...the 500GB HDD is now removed. 6.Put old PS4 500 hdd in PS3 (ie reverse step of 4) 7.Put new 1TB HDD in PS4 (clearly reverse step of 5) mind you...if you plan to upgrade even MORE merely just adjust the screws to be a bit lose or finger tight. 8. Put flash drive in PS4 and PS3 which has the updates. 9.After updates done.....put in external, and restore the backed up data on PS4 and PS3 accordingly. 10. Live life! Mind you...I timed it and taking out my PS4 HDD took less then 15 mins, my PS3 took less then 6 min to replace. That is all with taking out and putting back together with the new hdds. The longest time it took was merely to back up and to restore. http://www.techradar.com/us... and http://www.techradar.com/us... If you know how to turn a screw driver....you know how to replace a hdd. I've done this dozens of times on my PC and those are much more complex then on PS4 and PS3 as your consoles format the hdd for you. Its easily the upgrades on PC I've done the most. Mind you...I did this on a day I was also closing a property transaction lol It was that painless. I don't really get why one would even care for an external hdd to use in a game system when a internal hdd makes just so much more sense.
Cause im a cassual gamer who doesnt want to open my ps4. I just want extra GB because its easyier for me. ( sry for my english im from holland)
I use an external for my Xbox one just so I can move games I've be at over there...I don't keep it always on but it's nice to have...I'd like that same ability on my ps4
@Edmix....It may be "easy" to swap out but it's not very convenient or as convenient than simply plugging in an external drive. After all the steps you had to take to swap out the hdd, transferring those 500gb over to the new drive would take about 8 hours or so. Then you have to go through the whole process again when your 1-2tb drive fills up and then double the transfer time for that... also, with an external you can simply unplug and take your games to a friend's house as opposed to taking your whole console...not saying the ps4 can do this but it would be nice if it could like other consoles can.
External are not made JUST for backups. The main thing that really effects a HDD lifespan is heat. Heat generated by an external may be 3-5c hotter in temperature than one internally. So, I doubt it would die that much sooner than an internal. Yet, the way some OEM PC rigs are built and consoles, are heat generating monster since they're so compact, in which case you would probably be better off temperature-wise with an external.
jv1991- Its really not as hard as it looks. Even the plastic piece on the PS4 isn't screwed, mounted etc on. You literally just pull it apart. Back up your PS4. Remove plastic part, take out screw, take out screws on hdd, put in new hdd and that is literally the extent of labor. I'm not sure why ignorance seems to be bliss in this situation. Its a process thats much simpler then you really think. Again...if you've screwed something before, you can replace a hdd. Its legit like legos if not easier lol. The longest part is just backing up and restoring and you don't even need to do much other then press a few buttons. https://www.youtube.com/wat... Mind you...you don't even need to know much English to know what happening here. Back up on External. watch video, take out PS4 hdd, replace with new hdd. restore...life lol. Even if you didn't know the language, you can still on your own PS4 follow where he is going to back up in Dutch as I'm sure you know in Dutch what restore and back up is. https://www.youtube.com/wat... I'm sorry but the steps are pretty simple and I see no reason to waste time seeking a way to make externals work on PS4 when the internal option makes more sense. Trust me, you don't want to have a external plugged on all the time just to play games from, an internal hdd makes more long term sense. https://support.us.playstat... Just go to (country selector) to change the language. Even if you casually game, I can't understand how one wouldn't know how to change a screw, press a few buttons etc. In reality....that is all that is happening. The steps help you learn if you don't know. I wasn't just born with that knowledge lol, I learned just be reading steps, videos etc. Its not rocket science and I feel you very much can learn, don't disrespect yourself and sell yourself short. Hell, you know some English if your on N4G, I know many who can build computers and know zero extra languages even slightly. I just don't think ignorance is an excuse here. As someone who builds often, upgrades for friends for free and buys computer parts often, I don't EVER recommended having a external as a hdd replacement for ANY device, console, PC etc.
I know how to do it thats not the problem. The highest you can buy is 2TB. Thats not enough for me. Give me external which goes to above 5TB and im solid for the rest of this gen. I have 3 usb ports left so i can use 3 externals.
I have over 120 games on Steam and my 3 TB hard drive isn't even more than half full. So if you need a 5 TB HDD to game comfortably on the console then console gaming is essentially broken.
Just got an 1Tb SSHD for my PS4. If I known this was out soon I would have waitied and got this and a 2 or more TB SSHD for instead.
Finally, about time, really. Memory space's insane for this generation.
Sony just should anounce a 1.5TB PS4 already! that´s the ideal space for games (around 10-20 50GB´s games)at least for me.
whats the biggest size you can use on ps4? any recommendations?
if you're going for internal, 2TB's is the largest you can get due to the slim form factor of the 2.5" drives. The larger 2.5" drives are thicker and won't fit. Seagate makes one which is pretty popular, but can't remember the model number. A google search should give the answer though. I know they run between $70-85 for 2TB's. A 1TB one will probably run you about $60, but there are more options available. If you're looking on amazon, looking at the questions section of the HD products usually have the answer on if it'll fit. I believe you need a 9.5mm tall drive. Using an enclosure, such as this) or some sort of modification you can use any SATA hard drive of any size. The file system of the PS4 allows up in the 600TB range(can't remember the exact amount). More than likely, the PS4 will be obsolete before drives that big are released. It's possible that the actual OS of the PS4 won't support 600TB's, but I do know someone did a mod with a 6TB drive and it was all available. If you're crafty you could set up a nice raid enclosure in an old PC case with power supply, and run a cable hidden around the back of the console. While fast, and massive, it'd probably be rather costly and unnecessary.
The biggest laptop HDD is 2tb atm.
A 2TB 2.5" hdd in Amazon will run you for about $104.00 ...The Data bank is $39.99 plus the cost of a 3.5" drive (60-70 bucks) would be about $90 to a $100 or a little bit more. I would go with the internal hdd. What's five bucks this days?
I can get a 3TB 7200 RPM 3.5" SATA drive through pricewatch for $65 right now. This, plus the $40 for the caddy puts me in line with a 2TB notebook drive. I don't like how it looks, but I like having the option.
ChecK your prices again....that might be the deal of the year.
Nice...I didn't know this ste...bookmarked...Thanks!
The thought of being able to have up to an 8TB hard drive in my PS4... Sounds like heaven. 0_0 lol Then again, a simple 3.5" HDD + enclosure + SATA cable would do the trick all the same. 3TB 2.5" drives are on the way, but last I heard they're not down to 9.5mm yet, something like ~13-15mm.
I would get one but I don't want to lose P.T :(
Release the Kraken!!!
How ugly the PS4 add-ons are shows that Sony's hardware design isn't as great as people claim. There is a similar ugly humpback USB hub add-on that sticks out of the front and would sort of match with this DATA "BANK". <- AKA, a terrible name for a device that only supports disks failures that result in total data loss. As with all daemonic OSes, this "humpback" add-on looks fLAMER. Sony's add-ons are uglier and only support losing all your data in a drive failure. OTOH, Xbox supports 5 disk USB 3.0 RAID 5\10 SSD arrays for the fastest, largest, and most reliable storage possible for a console, and if cost is an issue, there are less expensive 2 disk USB 3.0 RAID enclosures that support mirroring a couple of 2-5TB disks. I prefer mirroring since either disk then works standalone and there isn't any dependency on the RAID logic. And with Xbox, you don't have to have ugly Medusa wiring sticking out the front when using any kind of USB. To be fair, I suppose it is possible to take this humpback add-on and use a 3.5" enclosure inside it that mirrors two 2.5" disks... they're rare and I've never used one, though they do make them.
I don't see cooling fans or its own power supply, those are no-no's in my book. I need fans for the drives AND for my PS4 to keep it cooler internally. This thing will generate more heat than the PS4 was intended for.
I'm having a hardtime understanding what the purpose of the Databank is exactly. The PS4 only accepts up to a 2TB drive so the capacity advantage that a 3.5 inch drive would bring isn't there.
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