Guillermo Del Toro Joins Petition To Pursue The Game, Norman Reedus Frustrated With The Cancellation

After Konami officially announced that there will no longer be a PS4 release date for "Silent Hills" because it's already cancelled, fans who are highly anticipating the game immediately signed a petition to ask the giant gaming studio and its director, Guillermo del Toro to pursue with the game.

[Rimeskeem]

YES! this is great news. If the people involved with it originally want to continue it that is excellent. Even if it has to turn into a crowd funded game with a totally different title i'm pretty sure many of us would give money to make the game happen.

[thereapersson]

Seems that everyone involved is frustrated by Konami's stupid decisions. It baffles me when people defend Konami, honestly.

[Summons75]

Wait....there are people actually defending them? What are they saying, cell phone games are better than real games so it was a smart move to burn all bridges in the gaming world and abandon the industry...because that is a pretty poor defense.

[moomoo319]

@thereapersson

Why does anyone need to attack or defend them? They are making decisions for THEIR business not reading a moral compass. If they want to make phone games good for them, who gives a shit?

[BVFTW]

@Moomoo319
I do, I've enjoyed their games in their prime, I remember the ultra brand, the incredible arcade games, I saw them become a titan and now I'm mistified by how that awesome brand has fallen, as a consumer I've the right to speak my mind, as a fan I'm more than qualified to critize their decisions and as a gamer I've the choice of not supporting them anymore. Konami can run its business to the ground or not, but I'm sure as hell that the brand will never be the same without guys like me who gave a flying duck!

[TI_21]

Am I the only one that smells a marketing stunt here? ^^
It's not as if Kojima hasn't done strange things like this before. :P

[OCEANGROWNKUSH]

I dont recall a single solitary person ever defending Konami lol

[Baka-akaB]

@moomoo319

It's Konami's prerogative as a business ... but as gamers and probably not among of their shareholders , why care to defend them ?

[Blurmobjet]

What we need to do is petition Konami to sell the rights. That is the only hope we'll ever have of getting Kojima and Del Toro back together on this.

Normally I would say there is no way in hell that Konami would ever sell the rights to Silent Hill, but if they really are changing their business plan then maybe there might be something.

[moomoo319]

@BVFTW
You questioned why anyone would defend them, which insinuates they are in the wrong.

I understand people are frustrated with them but lets say you enjoy pes, and konami cancels pes. You are understandably upset, but does that make Konami "bad"? they decide whats best for their buisiness, and those decisions dnt require a moral stance from the consumer. If you dnt agree with them, just spend elsewhere.

[BVFTW]

I agree that they are doing what they think is best for their business but they definitely could've done better. If they don't turn away from shunning that awesome IPs catalogue, believe me, I won't be the only one spending money elsewhere.

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

I would still rather it be Silent Hills then a spiritual successor though. Hopefully someone can unfuc* what Konami has fuc*ed up and the game can be made.

[LemyAtom]

I'd back it. Hell if it ended up on kickstarter I'd probably pledge about a hundred quid (which is a lot for me).

[deathtok]

Agreed. You listening Sony? Pick up the phone and make this happen...

[deadpoolio316]

How the hell is it great news? Do people really still not get in 2015 that petitions dont mean ANYTHING...If Konami doesn't want to spend the money a petition is not going to change that FACT....

And NO it will not become some crowd funded spiritual successor FACT PERIOD. The game was probably going to cost more than MGS5 which was 60 million, so your easily looking at 100 million with engine development, paying Del Toro, paying Reedus and Kojima...The most a game has ever made through KS is 4 million...

So unless you want a game that looks more like Amy and less like P.T its not happening get over it, move on with your life...MS isn't buying it, its not getting crowd funded, its OVER

[Conzul]

"Pointless" petitions are a litmus of interest, and, in case you didn't get the memo....Interest moves Money.

[frostypants]

@deadpoolio316, actually, I'd wager that petitions these days are more effective than ever. They're easier to put in from of people to sign them, and with social media it's easier to get the attention of the desired party. Petitions have saved freaking TV shows in recent years.

[Baka-akaB]

Wondering if you can even back up those numbers ?

Cause i remember debunked crap of the same vein for mgs 4 about it costing 5 to 7 billion yens (roughly 80 millions then) .

Same goes for the Fox engine numbers you advance ... considering that each version of of one engine like Unity costed around 2-3 millions to develop . Even if you were to account some potentially superior engine like Fox , and considering the UE and Cryengine competitions , it doesnt add up

In fact it would be "easy" for the trio to pursue on superior or equivalent engines like UE4 . They didnt develop anything yet but a concept teasing demo . What would be keeping it in limbo is uncertainty about Kojima's future , him not even being free till the contract is up at the fall , timing and scheduling issues with Reedus and Del Toro , uncertainty about publishing model etc ..

And of course they'd have to ditch every concepts , designs , scripts , schemas that might be under Konami's ownship , erasing anything tying it in any way to their franchise , but it's doable .

"The most a game has ever made through KS is 4 million... "

Many of the people already in frenzy over the collaboration dont even care about about the franchise , but the genre of the game , its potential , and the people involved .

Those people would easily overlook the already Dead silent Hill franchise , and could help it outselling it or getting close

[Bobertt]

Doesn't Konami own the game tho? They can still make the game on their own i guess if they change the name.

[frostypants]

But if they are basically scrapping it, they'd have little to lose and everything to gain by just selling the rights to someone like Sony.

[Bobertt]

@frostypants They own the right to the franchise tho so they would have to sell all of them and Konami seems to have gone brain dead so i don't think they will sell for a fair price. They own a bunch of old franchises that used to be good but they are doing nothing with them and not selling them to someone who would.

[aquaticDonut]

I need a Guillermo Del Toro video game in my life.

[Kingscorpion71]

It's not gonna happen it's time to move on. The next game will be like Silent Hill downpour

[mhunterjr]

It's nice to know that they are still interested in making the game... Perhaps a suitor could come along and save it...

[BabyTownFrolics]

I'm bonafide! I'm a suitor!

[BornGamerRob]

3 Disagrees? Oh noes! People didn't get it. But this is the single best reply to a comment in this thread.

[Conzul]

Yeah well....you're in a tight spot!

[GrmpyolGamer]

lol. More petitions. How many petitions related to gaming have actually worked and changed something? Simple fact is is that the only way this game is gonna get done and released is if someone buys the IP. I think its a shame that MS didn't.

[Skate-AK]

It worked when PC players wanted Dark Souls on PC.

[user78405]

And Microsoft dont owned or not the creator's of silent hills even with money it will not fly, its a protected property won't be sold to none other than original creators and 2nd party license ownership is no other than SONY, sorry Americans but you can make a new ip with a different name that isn't similar you can do

[KryptoniteTail]

They said the franchisee will continue. Everyone is just stroking Toro, Kojima, and Reedus. News flash: the best Silent Hill games had nothing to do with them (1-3 were flawless Survival Horror) and even Book of Memories should be respected for taking chances on a portable spin-off.

This is a loss but there was no guarantee it would be better than what can be and history shows us just how good the series is.

That said, I would back a Kickstarter for this.

[OCEANGROWNKUSH]

After SH3, team silent was disbanded and the franchise was handed to terrible western devs who ran it into the ground... Members of team silent work for kojima productions so this was a match made in heaven.

[Baka-akaB]

That's because people care about the game involving those three , not silent hill per se . It was gone the "Nicolas Cage" way and never coming back to anything good without that kind of stellar involvement.

It was just nice to see the franchise being revived into something great again , but if possible , those interested will buy "Whatever X horror" game with the same team , in an heartbeat

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Microsoft will save it

[dcbronco]

This comes off as misdirection. Phil Spencer says we're not buying Silent Hill. Then director and star pleads for someone to save the project leading everyone to believe it remains dead. Silent Hill Hololens edition. Microsoft has 100 billion in the bank and the only thing they want or need are more 1st party studios and IPs. They're buying Konami. Microsoft will make console games and Konami will license their former IP for Windows phone exclusives.

E3 is going to be interesting.

[Skate-AK]

Lol. Dude, Microsoft is not going to buy Konami. They are a lot bigger than just a games company.

[dcbronco]

Which means they can't sell their game division? But so what. They are more than a gaming company. I've read the entire companies market cap is 2.6 billion. I'm sure 100 billion covers that a few times. Plus Microsoft makes another 30 billion in profit each year so I don't see money as an issue. Be realistic, they could afford to buy Sony three or four times and have money left.

[ShadowWolf712]

Microsoft is not the Xbox Division. The Xbox Division has limited funding MS is willing to divest into it. And given how long said division has been running at a loss for them, I doubt they're going to start shoveling in billions for them to buy up more studios when they've had plenty of them that they haven't been using for much of anything.

[DaB3astx]

Minecraft developer Mojang would say otherwise.

[ShadowWolf712]

Mojang's purchase was for the benefit of multiple divisions of the company, not for the benefit of the Xbox Brand.

[dcbronco]

Xbox also benefits multiple divisions in the company. People need to listen to Microsoft at conferences and not just the highlights from events. As much as people hate Kinect, I admit it hadn't given gaming much yet, but it has given Microsoft Cortana and Hololens. The work done on Xbox SoCs I'm sure has been a tremendous help in designing the custom chips for Hololens and Kinect. And as we move towards a subscription based system of consumerism having a platform that offers everything from gaming and music to productivity software and cloud computing will be a huge advantage in the marketplace.

[DarkMeans]

OK so where is the petition?

[The93Sting]

https://www.change.org/p/ko...

[LgbtWarrior]

Business is business

[Nucler100]

LETS GO
Don't let it die!

[oasdada]

I dont care bout the name.. i just want to play what kojima and del toro were making, be it silent hills or screamig cliffs

[level 360]

Positively believe Silent Hills will happen.

The rawness of P.T. will continue and be even more frightening.

[Wii_nes_007]

Konami can suck my hairy bean bag.

[mogwaii]

People defending konami: consider your gamer card REVOKED! Lol

[Mr Lahey]

Konami cares about profit, not gamers. They know mobile gaming is easy money and huge profit compared to console games. Fu*kin' tools..

[truemanjur]

This is great! It would be fantastic to get an actual horror game, last-gen was slacking, the evil within was only mediocre at best. Playing P.T was such a refreshing experience as that was probably the best horror game in years... So imagine Silent Hills!

[user78405]

better yet its very good idea for a kickertarter funding will pay Konami so if the game won't succeed expectations, Konami won't lose the money but its our effort that we fans do care for this important franchise for the best experience to play this game, i really do because i grew with this series that should continue for many generation to come so get Sony involved to make it happen

[brando008]

Finally mustered the courage to play the P.T. demo on my cousin's ps4, and by God it was brilliant. I hope this game sees full development and release

[UNKLE]

Well petitions is most time a failure i wonder now del torro is sign a petition whats gonna happen? he is famous enough... i hope reedus is join too.

[BABY-JEDI]

I find it really difficult to comprehend why Konami are so against having a AAA games development division for their business portfolio. It gives their corporation prestige & prominence within the industry (& for investors). Also, markets change through time. So what's wrong with covering all your market bases, especially when you've got some of the best (which you have invested in & developed) within the industry.
Such a DUMB AZZ move IMO.

[baraka007]

If it would make money they would make it. The truth is gamers do more trolling than gaming and just aren't willing to buy a game for the price it should be sold. If 60 dollars wasn't enough for game companies to make enough money during the 90s and early 2000s why would it be now? Not to mention that if a game is over 6 months old a young gamer thinks it's not worth their time. If it isn't high enough resolution it's not worth it... if the main guy has the wrong hair color it's not worth it etc... The gaming industry is changing because gamers have made it change. Constant trolling and never saying things are good enough... always putting pc gamers and console gamers against each other. xbox vs ps3 and just pretty much saying not to buy things and support our hobby... It's why we will never get a half-life 3. It just isn't profitable enough to spend the time and money to make a game better than a 7 or 8 out of 10. The extra time and money doesn't make up for the small handful of people that will buy it because it got a 9/10. Mobile cheap games are profitable and that's why things are moving toward that. If you can take a few people and make a game on the cheap and it sells more than if you made a great game why do it? Seriously why make the expensive game? To lose money and risk your jobs and everything you've worked for your whole life? It's time for gamers to realize they made things this way and it's not any one game companies fault.

[user78405]

The conservative thinking is killing the gaming industry that should not shrink due prices, reason its price that way, its employees have huge incomes than anybody who lives have the knowledge of computers while everyone are populated with that expertise than the old days was a few people.. ask yourself, rather lose money for our economy growth in more consurmism spending with high incomes or small spending on development for huge return that make less on consumer spending that equals less jobs and closures and losses of assets that is conservative way of choping people heads with less people to work with and result high unemployment backend...thats your stupidity of killing yourself and isolation moods with hate and thinking me all the time...