Many people predicted that upon the PS3s release that it was set to dominate the market as it's predecessor the PS2 did last generation. It is kind of interesting how things can change in the videogame market.
"Is it really in the consumers best interest to be playing outdated hardware?" the wii says hi edit: lol disagrees? so ur telling me the wii isn't a more powerful gamecube?
I think the people disagree because PC's are going real hard....but thats just my 1.8 cents....
They just outsold their direct competitor by a huge margin last month. The Wii is a novelty and I mean that because people are buying it and nothing else for it. They just want Wii sports. PS3 is picking up. Last year MS was ahead by what, 10 million units? Now it's only 5. Next year it could be dead even. And don't forget that PS3 is the MOST expensive option. Does BMW sell as many cars as Ford? No. But that doesn't mean the BMW isn't a quality car (far from it). I don't even bother to read these articles because they're usually written by someone who's uninformed about the gaming industry or just a blogger looking to throw some fuel on the flame war.
That is what I'm telling you. It is an equally powerful gamecube. So far it has yet to put out a game that is better than any gamecube game. BTW, I agreed with you.
there was an event ( I wanna say E3) where Nintendo had Gamecubes running Wii games. Gamecubes! C'mon! That's just friggin crazy to me.
hahahahahahaha.... what a hilarious satirical send up of a person who has no clue what they are talking about pretending to be an expert. The random assumptions, the ridiculous pie charts, the leading rhetorical questions. What? Not a joke? Oh then hit report at the top of the page this isn't news...
Nothing new here, just another day on N4G. Am outtie.
"Now it's only 5" Actually the difference is closer to 4 as people will see when Sony releases their quarterly shipment figures in a week or so. 5 million is the fantasy vgchartz numbers with an extra 500k or so 360 sales and PS3 sales under counted by around 200 to 300k. The PS3 should pass the 360 in worldwide installed base around January 09 unless there is some monster price cuts to the 360 between now and then.
@ 1.3 yeah it's pretty much a gamecube with just some higher specs, reportedly @ 1.4 lol yeah i remember that, it was e3. did a fast search and found this: http://www.play-gadgets.com... they SAY it was wii hardware inside gamecube housing, but i don't know if that's really true lol
no matter how well sony does....there will alwayz be haters~
Well coming from the PS2 anybody would be a loser. As far as PS3 goes it will not be the loser of this generation. The 360 will lose the most money and sell the least this generation. As for Sony they are the biggest loser because from 120 million PS2s and the large margin of victory it's just not going to happen again this generation. Not even the Wii or the DS will dominate like the PS2.
But i dont recall GC playing online games as well as Sega an Turbographic games! just putting in my 2 cents an this article just wants Fanboy Blood Spilled!
That was "housed" in a gamecube casing, doesn't mean it's a gamecube "running" Wii games, get real about that....I will be the first to agree that Wii lacks some noticable horsepower compared to the PS3/360 stuff, but also the first to swear that you won't find a GC game that looked as good as Metroid Prime 3 or Smash Bros. Brawl or The Conduit...the GC could NOT have pulled off those. Look it up people, it's only a beefed up GC, but remember the portion of "BEEFED UP".... I'm sickened by the fact that it seems Nintendo left hardcore in the dust, albeit a few first party exclusives and even fewer 3rd party, but I'll never understand fanboys. To me a fanboy isn't just a lover (or "fan") of one console but a hater of others, just accept the Wii for what it is and give Nintendo some resect, it was a close call that the Playstation 1 didn't become an add-on for the SNES back in the mid 90's, if you know your history.
i still think Wii will be the loser. For the winner, we can only wait and see.
"The 360 will lose the most money and sell the least this generation" Lose the most money? What's the rent like under that rock dude?? 360 is already MAKING money. They aren't losing anything on the 360. It's still selling fine outside of Japan, and the multiplats are still selling in favour of x360. PS3 will, im sure, catch up and the race will get closer. But 360 losing money? not since january
I dont understand why people are arguing if Sony will win or MS will win. Why would it matter to the consumer? It only has an impact on the shareholders and investors, not the low level of the gamer who only buys the product. If Sony turns out to be the "winner" what impact does this have to me? Cheaper system? Well I already have a ps3 so a lower price has no effect on those who already own a system. Lower rpice of the competitor's system? Well thats great news because now everyone can own both systems! More games? Well if you want the most games and variety then buy an Xbox and ps3, that way you have the best of both consoles. Really all this fanboyism is just child's play, maybe if you had say $20,000,000 invested in Sony or MS then I could see why everyone would care who wins but for the average or hardcore gamer, I doubt that is a possibility, just enjoy the games for each system equally, both the ps3 and 360 have amazing games, but I guess fanboys wouldnt know that because they are bent on one system, oh well your loss!
@LifendzDoes - The BMW and Ford anoalogy is not a good one, becuase BMW sells way more cars than Ford. I have seen many BMW's from Kuwait to Russia to the EU to Japan and to the US. While you only see a lot of Fords in the US.
Thanks for letting me know what people drive in Kuwait. I was speaking purely in relation to America and only America. I was not, in any way, speaking for the people in Kuwait or wherever else you'd like to throw out there. Next time maybe dispute my argument as a whole rather than schematics.
The whole "look at it selling and it's cost so much more WOW!" is not a good point. The fact that it is not beating the Wii which it is superior to is a problem. Then it is barely beating the xbox 360 with an avg of 20k a month with a nice 200k spike. The game cube had a similar problem with the first xbox and they lost. The GC would come soaring back yet in the end the xbox won that gen. I know how lots of PS3 owners and future owners feel but I also see lots of gamers hyping the machine and not buying it or saying they will get one. Saying you will get one did not keep FF13 exclusive. You guys have to buy. If you are waiting on games then I understand but that's not helping. Another thing is the most post I ever saw on here was around 1000s when I see 400,000 unique post say they are getting an PS3 this week in one post I will believe that the PS3 will win. Then the same happening the month after that. Then the problem is how do you grow the hardcore market. Dropping the price would help but not making me too games would help even more. Making more types of hardcore niche games is a solution also. I'm sure lots of potential players and buyers would say the same. It's easy to be excited about a game but only certain games become some thing I have to play due to game play. Once i've seen the graphics in motion I get most of the pay off for eye candy games and most of the time the eye candy is old and tired. No one cares about the power of your system if you are over 25 years old and your are still saying this as the reason why your console will win then you are a new comer. Every one cares about price then fun and how much of it can be had. Even fanboys feel this way deep down inside. The PS2 is a perfect example. It became the standard. People buy more standard stuff than expensive. Over here in America the middle class is getting beat up so there are less rich people trying to buy expensive stuff. Then it does help that they are getting ignored and not even log on to post board to complain about it. Suddenly SONY and MS are simply preaching to the people that already own there systems because they are just trying to please them. I'm sure they will see this soon enough but why worry about it they are making so much money off of the people that already own an HD system. If you don't believe me then just wonder why the share holders are not pissed? Then on top of that all of the console hardware is obsolete as of last year and beyond. The gear is about getting certain things done leaving HD out may piss off a few people but it works for every one. Don't come to me with this it doesn't work for hardcore because it work last gen for the PS2 and thing are no different now we all did not get $600 video game gift cards this gen.
I don't even have to click the link, seriously, of all the numbers coming out and the fall line-up Sony has, how can you justify writting this now? Maybe back in 06, but not now. LAME
you sir are a smart one :D
I agree, back in 06 the PS3 was looking grim in terms of ports and overall support from developers, but now everything is seeming to align to create success for the PS3, whether it be exclusives this fall or next spring, Bluray, playstation network, and great updates. I just cant understand how people can have so much disapproval for sony at this moment. I recently went to a gamestop a week ago and the manager tried to "inform" me how the PS3 was selling horribly, development costs are very high, there are no good games, and it is impossible to develop for....i asked, "is it spring 2007?" Development costs are now half what they used to be, people now finally praise the architecture, ports are great, exclusive games are great, and PS3 sales are definitely picking up, the guy hadnt even played MGS4 yet. Gamestop is just ruining the game industry in so many ways.
I hear what you both are saying and agree, but dont you mean 07, it was only out for a little over a month in 06
Yea ur right there bruiser, during early 07' was when you would see crap ports like ghost recon, a list of broken EA titles, and the loss of some key multiplatform titles like Bioshock. But all is better and I am still glad that I am a PS3 owner especially with so many current titles and ones to look forward to this fall, Im not going to know what to do with myself
guys relax they are xbots so this is a joke article
Let the countdown begin to another stupid XBOT comment from Bloodmask, GiantEnemyCrab, etc... Sad, sad humanbeings they are...
hey playstation man bloodmask is already in the report section crying so go easy on him
Lets thank the idiots that approved this article. Why? Because it is proof. Proof that Microsoft is sweating 44 magnum sized bullets. Sony is gaining on them like a predator and as that worn out last gen MS console continues to rattle and gasp the black beast is like a cyborg panther moving in relentlessly for the kill. The Wii sales will begin to flatten this holiday season and the human garbage truck marcus fenix won't be able to keep the MS last gen console afloat. People will want the true HD next gen experience and the PS3 is the only place to get a console that is a true HD media hub as well. Everyone should remember the jackassery of websites like neocrisis and remind them in just over a year as the PS3 fully catches MS. They apparently think this generation is completely over in 2010 when MS releases their next console. And if you own a 360 it will be over. Dropped the way MS dropped the Xbox, the way MS drops support for products all the time. Yes, as Billy Ray Valentine said "They panickin'. I can hear 'em."
that probably the best comment i've read all month. cyborg panther.
IT ABSOLUTELY DRIVES MS AND THEIR FANBOYS CRAZY that no matter how much money ms spends, no one wants their crap product. DEAD IN JAPAN BEING GIVEN ITS LAST RITES IN EUROPE STARTING TO GET A POUNDING IN THE US here boys and girls is a profile of a company that bought cheated, sued and stole its ways to prominence. I mean who needs honest and fair competition when you can just muscle competitors out with your OS?? That business model worked well for them for many years. THIS ISN'T THE OS MARKET! This is the console market a HARDWARE based and software driven business. We all know how miserably MS fails on the hardware front and wether the fanboys like it or not they suck on the software front aswell. They all hoot and holler about Final Fantasy but do they ever stop to think why a SOFTWARE company and a self proclaimed "king of software" at that, is buying software(games) from other people?? doesn't it strike you a little odd that an electronics company's (sony) talen pool for software development makes theirs look like a complete joke?? THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES ladies and gents and its time we shut up these stupid fanboys and opened gamers eyes.
'Why Micro$oft Will Be the Biggest Loser this Gen' ;-D These Articles are SO Sad!!! ;-D
10 9 8 7 ...wait, they already came? Okay.
Man talk about damage Control, Wii beating the XBOX in the ONLY country it had AnyForm of a Lead on anything..got u to right That dribble? God in any Heaven u dont breed. Remember this crap when M$ Makes u Mandatorly Upgrade to XBOX 3 like the did with XBOX 1 to reset thelolConsoleRace and QF Truth @what GameDev said 100% M$ buying Games/rights/a share of the pie is pretty dam lame, like how they bought bungie so that Apple would Not get a game, since Halo was a Mac game before M$ bought it and its way in to the game industry with its "Luv us We Kooler the other guy and M$ Money solves All attitude"...
wow the playstation 3 sold so well last month without a price cut
yesss they have released the box art for left for dead i cannot wait to play it on my powerful pc
i think i will be playing as the zombies first because it will be easier to remember the keyboard layout
hehehe i have missed so much videogame news can someone tell me if they have already announced mass effect for the playstation 3 because i just saw bioware are making a mmo for the ps3
Yeah, it's coming in a Double Pack with PlayStation 3 exclusive Mass Effect 2.
i am not surprised microsoft stocks are at an all time low
lol Sounds like pog wrote this article.
And he's working overtime giving us all disagrees bashing his article. Seriously, do you XBOX fans have ANYTHING better to do? Seriously, this article would have been appropriate 1.5-2 years ago. Now it's just random anti-Sony crap. Do yourselves a favor and stop finding any random thing to help in your vent about PS3 outselling 360 2:1 in NA according to NPD this month. Go play a GAME or something. Yesh.
Your saying Xbox fans have nothing better to do when it's 99% Sony fans commenting on it??? I mean it's a pie chart, if I wrote a pie chart on a wall would you argue with it? Plus all these statistics change everyday. Tell them they are wrong when they're wrong, not when they have accurate statistics...
So what are you guys having for lunch?
well..... il just get a dbl cheese burger =D Ontopic: seems like a lot of people dislike Sony now because the PS3 is taking off
I had the Steakhouse Burger and BK, I recommend it, it was good.
Lol, Sony are already the biggest winner this gen. Blu-ray licensing is worth way more than any console war. Anything Sony loses on the PS3 is being made back on Blu-ray and then some. People are happy to count Blu-ray against PS3 in terms of cost, but forget the profit from it.
that sony did come out the winner, because with out the ps3, Blu-Ray wouldn't have been crowned victor of the HD format battle. Which in turn will make the ps3 more and more appealing to people as the price drops. its only a matter of time the customers which purchased a ps2 for its first dvd player and had it last for years, will eventually move on the ps3 and its blu-ray player. Along with all the new games that are coming out that will appeal to a wider audiance, or the select hardcore that have yet to pick one up due to the 'lack' of games.
By the time that the ps3 hits the mass market pricepoint cheaper Blue ray players will be available that can be upgraded like the ps3 and a major advantage of the console will be lost. Over the coming years if BD truely becomes the next DVD then maybe the HD war will bear fruit.
dude your not getting the point.. what pirate means is that either way... if the PS3 will or won't be the cheapest player on the market Sony still makes the most money on blu-ray than any other company.. since they own the rights together with pioneer or panasonic if i'm not mistaken..
I think quick sand got the point. You guys are trying to say the BR thing is big which it is only if people start buying more of them. That isn't really happening. DVD sales are still king and they may stay that way for a while. People don't like paying more not how much better some thing is. Then on top of that you guys are hoping john doe does care. 12% penetration for the HD market says they don't. SONY is trying to create demand and they are doing a bad job at it. It is even harder to make a blueray disk than a dvd. Then we are not talking about media cost for the spools. Nintendo made a very nice profit last gen and came out a looser any way. That got them a lot of 3rd party support didn't it? People are slowly moving to other systems. The people I'm talking about are developers. Gamers are moving to other systems but what matters are the games. The Wii has tons of gamers but some only want certain games bowling or zelda. Also too I would like to see the data where the PS3 is beating the PS2 sales rate. The Wii is the only console beating or even matching PS2 sales rate. Hell the PS2 still was out selling the PS3 for a while. Hey believe what you want to though. It does not matter at the end of the day this industry is much bigger than an internet post board.
and because I think that things will be different from what is predicted in there. I strongly believe Sony is now in the driving seat and the Playstation 3 will be a success thanks to the sheer number of qulity exclusives coming very soon. Well,it already started with MGS4. I should also not forget third party multi plat titles which are considered as 'Playstation' franchises like Final Fantasy,Pro Evo and Fifa which will sell better on it.
Nothing like a big cup of Hater-ade to start the day.
WII60 fan, for sure, and that sums up the source of his thoughts
This article in general fails so hard its not even funny. Basically he is making the assumption about the ps3 sale., How does he know that the ps3 sales won't pick up in the future. The ps3 has cut the 360 lead of 10 million console to 5. The ps3 has the surpass the 360 install base in europe and japan. the ps3 has outsold the 360 so far this year, in the 360 own back yard. The ps3 sale is selling better this year then last year. The 360 is cheaper then the wii in europe, and its still getting outsold by the ps3.
I predict more than 250 comments with a hotness at 1050° for 40 comments. It's being boring, trolling is no more a shame, it's a hobby.
Yeah, well, sangria sucks and Tequilla Slammers are the best.
Think about it for a moment, the consoles werent released at the same time, in fact, a year apart. if you were to put them side by side (released same day) the playstation 3 would be in the lead and PCs are such a dead gaming device now days, let them die already.
Business doesn't wait for competitors and it does nothing to explain that pie chart. Sony has lost market share, that's a fact. The even sadder fact is that it's by an underpowered console and lost of exclusives.
It's sad because people can be stupid, naive and too easy to follow everyone else. I believe A LOT of new people have stepped into our gaming world this gen. Maybe even twice as many as last gen, so just because nintedo and ms and closing in on their previous install base doesn't mean sony has lost market share. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that people are purchasing the ps3 at a faster rate then the ps2. So if the ps2 sold 120 plus last gen, and with a larger market for potential customers, it will be exciting to see the figures of all 3 consoles. Lets just hope there isn't many naive casuals at the end and that nintendo hasn't single handedly ruined gaming.
Wii came out 2 days after the PS3 and its the Wii in the lead not 360. So even if you line them up PS3 still loses
Declaring a clear winner or loser at this point is idiotic. Even if you only consider a 5 or 6 year lifecycle, we're not even two full years into it. It's like declaring a winner two innings into a ball game. There's a whole lot of baseball left to be played and anything can happen.
His question at the end - is it really that hard to come up with a new console earlier rather than wait 10 years. The answer is yes, it is extremely expensive to do that. The best years for a console are the latter years when its cost is low, has a large user base and alot of games that are reaping money for the console owner. The early years are at a loss or close to even, so coming out with a new console soon does nothing but hurt you financially.
should i even read it???
hello postedup how are you please tell the hiphopgamer i am very upset with him he did not punch or kick major nelson and the other microsoft employees he interviewed
lol what up man. lol nah he didnt but he did an awesome job at interviewing them. ill let him know though ; ) btw that sh*t was madd funny lol lol. iight man be easy peace and god bless.
I have been reading the crap that PS3 fanboys write. And its very sad that you have know idea of how the world works. Money, Money, Money. Not a single game producer will do a exclusive if theyre not going to see that money in return. That old way of doing business wont work anymore if they want to survive. So you will see more cross platform games. Get use to it. What happen last gen wont happen this time around. Sony dooesnt have the install base to warrent such a investment. Look all the company merging or closing up. Wake up you fools.
should i even read it?
The 360 will be last this generation. Call a shrink if you need help with that. :)
The winner here, however, will still be gamers this gen. Competition is forcing both companies to strive to max out their respected consoles. Also, I say "both", because the Wii continues to sell without having anything really special on it, so Nintendo is not being forced to push the Wii to its limits, but hey, they keep putting the same crap out either way.
You're spot on, no matter who "wins" with their vast blackholes of lost cash, we're all making away like bandits with numerous awesome games. I don't think this is the best console gen, not even close, but the variety is unmatched.