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Xbox One and PS4: Is this the year Microsoft reclaim console crown from Sony?

Sony have found themselves on top in terms of sales and still look to be pushing forward having announced at the end of the fiscal year that total worldwide PS4 shipments had reached 22.3 million units.

Sony are looking to sell another 16 million new-gen units in the current fiscal year, however comparing these numbers to Microsoft's Xbox can prove tricky.

The tech giant has yet to provide a new Xbox One shipment number since November 2014 and tend to combine Xbox One and Xbox 360 in earnings reports under overall Xbox sales.

But the tide could be about to turn if first-party titles have any say in the matter.

Sony conceded today during their annual Investor Day conference that things were looking a little thin in that department for 2015.

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stonecold33255d ago

world wide ps4 is leading the pack but i know who will come out on top this year and they have been outselling the competition from day one both machines were launched

Transistor3255d ago

The Xbox One maintained pace with the 360 by cutting a huge chunk of the entry price multiple times, the PS4 has yet to drop price.

Big difference.

Transistor3255d ago (Edited 3255d ago )

@nick

Considering they said the Xbox One would never be sold with out Kinect means removing it is a price drop.

The removed it because people didn't want it. They also threw in 2 free games with the $50 reduction.

super_bruno3255d ago

"Xbox One and PS4: Is this the year Microsoft reclaim console crown from Sony?"

Maybe in NA and UK, the rest of the world I doubt it.

Concertoine3255d ago (Edited 3255d ago )

Wait, what about the fact that the 360 launched with multiple models, one of which was 299.99? Or what about all the millions of consoles lost to the RROD?

Both of those were used as ammo last gen, now we're going to forget it because the Xbone is selling close to its predecessor, which sold pretty well...?

With that said, i dont think xbone will win this gen. I just hate to see misleading information has become so commonplace. Still, it doesn't need to outsell the PS4 or even the 360 to make moolah, which should be MS' real priority.

PistolsAtDawn3255d ago

But the price drop made them close to the same price. X1 dropped from being more than $100 more. Either way, after owning all the consoles, it's safe for me to say IMO that the X1 actually is the best all around console so far this gen, and it has the brightest future as far as we know. As soon as more people (esp in Japan and Europe) see past the marketing hype, I can see the sales evening out. Esp if more and more games get pretty significant boosts from DX12 like Project cars looks to be getting on X1. 30-40% is no joke...all last gen neither console got a 30-40% boost in performance.

...however the effects of DX12 on X1 games will vary from game to game, and it's still not solid...but when a Third part Dev makes claims like that, it's time to start taking notice.

miyamoto3255d ago

I think many bloggers are on life support living off these kind of articles nowadays to support their businesses. Its a sad tale of desperation. really. Bloggers living off flamebait is very sad.

This is the exact opposite of the dark PS3 vs 360 days.

But the PlayStation Nation rose from the ashes!
Good thing the PlayStation Nation emerge victorious once and for all this time around with Sony and the gamers having a symbiotic relationship.
Not even M$'s billion dollar media buyout can not suppress the truth now.

The truth is marching on!

BattleAxe3255d ago

As long as Xbox thrives in North America, the U.K. and maybe Australia/New Zealand, that's all I care about. The fact that Xbox targets the North American market with the games that I like to play, is what matters to me. For everything else there's Steam.

Army_of_Darkness3255d ago

@pistols "it's safe for me to say IMO that the X1 actually is the best all around console so far this gen"

LOL! I didn't think the statement you said was even possible to say, after the inferior multiplats against the PS4 and all...

johndoe112113255d ago (Edited 3255d ago )

I'm still trying to figure out why no one noticed that the heading said "reclaim". What do they mean by "reclaim"? When did Microsoft ever have the console crown? They have always been second to Sony, ALWAYS. People using sales figures from last gen keep forgetting that the 360 launched a year before the ps3 and already had a 10 million lead by the time the ps3 launched. Yet the ps3 still overtook it eventually. So again, What the hell do they mean by reclaim?

@pistols
How delusional can one person be???

Transistor3255d ago

@johndoe

The Xbox 360 had a 10M lead launching a year before the PS3.

The PS4 has a 12M lead launching at the same time as the Xbox One.

That says it all.

BeefCurtains3254d ago

Regardless, the PS4 sales have been insanely impressive.

If by "changing the tide" they mean consumers are willing to give the X1 another chance after it's launch debacle, then I hope so. But I wouldn't really predict an X1 takeover unless DX12 does something miraculous, the cloud gets released in big ways, and hololens becomes available. Those three things combined could really trigger massive consumer interest.

But that's a BIG "IF"

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nicksetzer13255d ago (Edited 3255d ago )

Yea, doubt there is really anything MS can do to "win." At least world wide, but honestly as long as both sell enough that MS and Sony continue their excellent support, I could care less if MS or Sony win this holiday/year/generation. In fact, I feel MS is giving much more effort (quality effort may I add) because they are the underdog, so might even be to the benefit of platform owners.

@transistor MS has only dropped it's initial price by $50... removing kinect is not a price cut, it is just adding a sku. The only price drop has been $50. Both PS4 and XB1 are bundling games at this point. Anything beyond that is retailer choice, MSRP set by MS is $350 w/o kinect and $450 w/ kinect, potentially with MCC or Assassins creed bundle.

So there really isn't this "big difference" you speak of considering the XB1 hardware is slightly weaker it makes sense to have dropped the price first, even still only by $50.

BitbyDeath3255d ago

'removing kinect is not a price cut, it is just adding a sku.'

Yes and no, like when PS3 dropped the emotion engine it was considered as a pricedrop and not adding an SKU.

(Not that it really matters anyway :-/)

nicksetzer13255d ago (Edited 3255d ago )

Removing backwards compatibility and removing an external piece of bundled hardware are not nearly the same though ....

@transistor again as I said, Sony has game bundles with it's console for a while now as well, so $50 is the only difference. Also, black flags/unity bundle is two games, but one was over a year old at the time Not like it was 2 $60 games.
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KwietStorm_BLM3255d ago

I will live the rest of my life not understanding why people want to spin the price cut thing. Yes, they removed the Kinect. Therefore, the price was cut. It was a price cut. The reason could be that aliens took control of Redmond. It doesn't matter. The official price was lowered by the manufacturer themselves. The price was cut. It's like people make it out to be some kind of disrespect or mud slinging by stating that the price was lowered, so it has to be clarified for some odd reason.

MasterCornholio3255d ago

Well there main goal was to increase sales of the system and one of the ways they could do this was to lower the price.

They could either

À. Cut the Price of the Kinect bundle
B. Create a cheaper SKU without Kinect.

Since Microsoft knew that a lot of people hated the device and refused to buy the XB1 because of it. And also since it wasn't necessary to operate the system with it (180) they decided to lower the price by removing Kinect.

So yes the main goal of the kinectless XB1 was to increase sales by selling a cheaper SKU without Kinect a device that many people hated.

What I dont understand is why Microsoft didn't do this in the very beginning. It couldn't have been difficult to sell two bundles at launch so why obligate early adopters to have only one choice?

Transistor3255d ago

At the time the $349 bundle launched.

Unity was $60, Blackflag was $30, Kinect removed $100, plus $50 extra off compared to launch.

It pretty much reduced it's price by $240. Now since the games have decreased in value, it's a bit less.

JMyers3254d ago

Removing "essential" hardware and having to update the software to suit is essentially a price cut. Who is replinishing Kinect SKUs, and where is it being sold in stores individually?

Launch was $499. Removing the SKU made it $399. It then went $50 cheaper. Came the holidays you could get this with 2 games and a gift card. the reality of this is multiple price cuts for hardware not being sold enough.

In the UK you can pick up an XB1 for £299 with the MCC. That's essential £250, with the PS4 being £349 with a game.

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AngelicIceDiamond3255d ago

Console crown over Sony? As far as I'm concerned no, but what MS can do is become very competitive and pressure Sony with its games, 1st party and its pricing. Maybe that rumored slim model along with that supposed hardcore controller http://gamingbolt.com/micro... .

All rumors but if they are indeed true then MS would be highly competitive and that right there is a fact.

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RedDevils3254d ago

@EpicName except that Microsoft have no game studios that can compete Sony on that front as well lmao

UKmilitia3255d ago

in UK whenb halo launched last year you could get

sunset overdrive console,halo collection,forza,titanfall and another game ,2 pads for £349 which was same price as a ps4 with no games and ps4 still outselling.

Magicite3255d ago

X1 certainly has chance in USA, but not a chance outside of it.

madmonkey013255d ago

Ms have never had the console crown, through three generations they have been outsold and out performed.

Wii_nes_0073255d ago

You speak facts and truth. The average gamer without researching would believe that the 360 blew away the ps3 in units sold world wide. They will think that because the 1 year head start with the 360, and the 1st couple years of the ps3's launch, MS dominated. Sony made an unthinkable comeback. As of November 2013, 80 million ps3's were sold world wide vs the 360's 72.3 million

beerzombie3255d ago

They made a profit and that what matters when Sony was bleeding cash.

MysticStrummer3254d ago

@beerzombie - Even if "winning the console crown" means having the best profit margins, which is a really bizarre concept in my view, MS didn't win it Nintendo did.

showtimefolks3254d ago

OK let's see:

Call of duty from the looks of it will have exclusive marketing meaning 30 days of exclusive dlc

MGS 5 will have exclusive marketing and most likely console exclusive dlc even if it's timed

batman has exclusive marketing with ps4

Star wars yes star wars has exclusive marketing rights

Uncharted trilogy HD collection

No man sky

God of war 3

Until dawn

Everyone's gone to rapture

sarcasm(yeah ps4 will have so much trouble selling at all)

Xbox one has halo 5 which is a huge IP. But here is a fun fact, halo 3 has was the peak for this IP. Look at the sales numbers. No halo game since halo 3 has ever sold as much or even come close

Forza is an excellent game but how much has it sold? One GT game has sold as much as the series combined. GT5/GT prologue sold over 15 million so now sure how forza 6 2illow change the fortune

And don't give me Crap about sale numbers. If they matter for halo they matter for GT

Tomb raider is a big exclusive for holiday but here is something to think about. A lot of people switched from xbox to ps so this will be their first opportunity to play uncharted HD collection. So think about it, it can sell neck and neck or even better. But I also think tomb raider will help sell xbox one consoles and software will be good too

So now ask me why xbox one will not only sell more than PS4 but reclaim something. Seriously people xbox one will be successful but if that means it has to outsell ps4 Than it won't.

So to answer the question of this very fanboysih and clickbait article No xbox one will not sell more than PS4 in year 2015 to claim any crown which is invisible BTW

ps4 will sell more than xbox one in USA and UK since to xbox fan boys only these 2 territories count as world wide in year 2015. (January 1st 2015 to December 31st 2015)

Oh and before you call me a fan boy whatever yes I am a sony fan since day one, and yes I am happy when sony does well because that means Playstation brand will get better budget and more to spend in gaming division

Thank you

OB1Biker3254d ago (Edited 3254d ago )

Theres nothing wrong with being a fan (I have PS3 PS4 and Vita and really enjoying it so I guess I could see myself as a PS fan) just as long as we respect fans from Xbox, Nintendo etc. which is fine.
Id call fanboys people who want to convince others they shouldnt be enjoying their preferred platform by trolling for example and worse of all when they try to be stealthy about it which is not usual on gaming sites unfortunately.
Not sure whats the fuss about 'holiday releases' though as so far its been really great for playstation this year and I dont see any 'drought' in the coming months regarding great games to play

showtimefolks3254d ago

I couldn't agree more, it's their time and money so they can buy whichever console they want. As a gamer for past 25 years, I just can't deal with this anymore

El in your face stats are overlooked by fanboys so they can prove their point.

I love the fact on that we get new games throughout the year instead of everything being in those 3 to 4 months window of fall launch. But than these same fanboys forget the fact sony launched and delivered games monthly, only to say ms delivered x number of Games. Well what about the other 7 to 8 months when ms delivered absolutely nothing

I for one am glad sony is back like they during ps4 Era. And I don't know why people are surprised, ps3 out sold Xbox 360 from launch at a much higher price poinT

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daBUSHwhaka3255d ago (Edited 3255d ago )

Microsoft own this year no probs.

PeaSFor3255d ago

then you are straight up delusional.

Eiyuuou3255d ago

Look at the bright side! At least they'll have second place.

madmonkey013255d ago

microsoft have been outsold every year when there has been a sony console available for that generation, not likely to change now.

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MysticStrummer3254d ago

You know the comment you made that got marked for trolling is completely false, right?

I mean, you can't possibly really believe what you said is true, right???

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Relientk773255d ago

Yeah no, I don't see that happening

SpaceRanger3255d ago

Been hearing that same question asked every year. Unfortunately, unless they keep cutting the price I don't see anything changing much.

Lennoxb633255d ago

How many times, and in how many ways are people going to keep asking this question? There's no crown. Whatever people like wins with them.

Spotie3255d ago

I dunno. How many times will you come in and complain about other people debating this question? You're perfectly free to NOT click on the article, you know. Nobody is forcing you to come in here.

The crown has always been a matter of who sells the most consoles. And that's been a reason for gamers to debate for years; it ain't gonna stop now just because the XB1 doesn't stand a chance. Get over it already; if you don't like it, you can leave that argument alone, too.

As for the article's question: not a chance. Unless you're being specific and talking about two territories in particular, Xbox never took the crown from PlayStation. Oh, I mean, unless you count that period of time where the 360 was the only console on the market.

It was Nintendo that took Sony's crown, and current sales say Sony's definitively taken that back. And even if not another PS4 was sold all year, odds are it'd still be in the lead on December 31st.

So no, this is not the year. Not even close.

magiciandude3254d ago

How much longer can Sony rely on subscription services, indies, and 3rd party to carry them through? That's what they're doing now. Sony needs to step up their game on the first party, because right now they're taking it easy.

Spotie3254d ago

I guess Naughty Dog and all the other first party studios Sony has have all been shut down, then?

They haven't? So then Sony, the company "bleeding money," according to all the Xbox fanboys around here, is just paying money to people that are doing nothing? Even though they've closed studios that were underperforming in recent years?

That's not happening either? Then what the hell do you think their first party devs are doing?

It's so weird. All these Xbox fans attack Sony like they're not making ANY games, and yet the number of first party exclusives isn't that different. To make matters worse, Microsoft is primarily giving the same few big names they've been relying on for close to a decade, only now on a yearly basis, but you say SONY is taking it easy?

Tell me: when was the last time Microsoft took a chance on a big new IP? When did they last heavily fund a new franchise IN HOUSE?

Who's taking it easy again?

magiciandude3254d ago

"I guess Naughty Dog and all the other first party studios Sony has have all been shut down, then?"

No. Zipper Interactive, Liverpool, and a plethora of studios behind popular franchises have been shut down, and Evolution is very likely next in line.

"They haven't? So then Sony, the company "bleeding money," according to all the Xbox fanboys around here, is just paying money to people that are doing nothing?"

According to facts. MS rakes in million dollar bills like piles of leaves. Can't say this for Sony.

"Even though they've closed studios that were underperforming in recent years?"

Studios under performing like Evolution? Looks like Evolution's next in line to get on the chopping block as said above.

"It's so weird. All these Xbox fans attack Sony like they're not making ANY games, and yet the number of first party exclusives isn't that different."

Look at the PS3's lineup in the first two years and match that with the PS4's. The PS3 easily mops the floor with the PS4 in both quantity and quality of exclusives within the first two years.

"To make matters worse, Microsoft is primarily giving the same few big names they've been relying on for close to a decade, only now on a yearly basis, but you say SONY is taking it easy?"

As somebody that owns a PS3 since 2007 and a PS4 since launch, they're taking things far easier with the PS4. They've shifted much of their focus on indies, subscriptions, third party cross platform titles, cross-gen titles, exclusive marketing deals for Call of Duty and Star Wars, remasters of old gen games, and less AAA exclusives.

MS has been focusing on delivering features right out of the box, new IPs like Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Scalebound, etc. and Windows 10 on the console. Funny how you ignore the new IPs coming for MS. Crackdown is also making a welcomed return which is exciting for me and many other MS fans. They're far more active in delivering AAA titles than last gen. This is the opposite for Sony.

gangsta_red3254d ago

"It's so weird. All these Xbox fans attack Sony like they're not making ANY games, and yet the number of first party exclusives isn't that different."

The first party line up is sparse Spotie even your own Andrew House from Sony has admitted this, why can't you see it?

I also find it funny that now sales matter. Last gen's mantra from the ps3 guys was "play games, not sales", another goal post moved. I am positive that if we looked back in your first account comment history we could see you spouting the same thing.

"Microsoft is primarily giving the same few big names they've been relying on for close to a decade, only now on a yearly basis, but you say SONY is taking it easy?"

Hmmmm, interesting enough MS came out the gate with only one of their own returning IP. Ryse, Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive all new IP's. Sony on the other hand relied on Killzone and Infamous as big names for their launch...i guess you forgot about that. Two years into a console and NOW MS is providing their users with their big name franchises...and this is a bad thing. I love the way you and others desperately try and SPIN that, as if MS should not bring out Halo or Gears on the system that birthed them.

"Tell me: when was the last time Microsoft took a chance on a big new IP? When did they last heavily fund a new franchise IN HOUSE?"

Lets come back to this question come E3. I'm sure we will see a few new IP's as rumored. I would love to see you backtrack, spin and duck the inevitable.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere5h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN3h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos35m ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger3h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto4h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos4h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel4h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator3h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg6h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos6h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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