MCV: Global Sony boss tells consumers: 'You still have a very powerful console'
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60gb is the best :P
It is the best PS3 of all. And mine has a 320GB HDD.
80 and 40 gig are the same machines with a differnt harddrive. The Backwards Compatible 80gig is another story. Thats 100$ more. :) I recommend upgrading your HDD yourself, i put a 160gig into mine in about 2 minutes.
My 40GB is alright, I just don't see why they couldn't have added BC, doesnt make any sense to me but meh!
Or just that they didn't? The 80GB actually has a bit of the PS2 in it, and they just removed it to make more $(or lose less? IDK at the time the 40GB was launched)
It isn't about the cost savings. They admitted that at E3. It's about selling PS3 games. They said they want to sell PS3 games to PS3 owners and PS2 games to PS2 owners. Apparently, there are a lot of people who are still buying and playing mainly PS2 games on their PS3 (me, thank you Final Fantasy XII and Persona 3 FES).
my 20 gig is still a "powerful" machine. ofcourse i up'ed the hard drive but everything else is great. and i still have bc...
"My 40GB is alright, I just don't see why they couldn't have added BC, doesnt make any sense to me but meh!" Money. They saved like $27 or so by ripping it out. They're still losing money on these things. Multiply $27 x 2M, or 3M, or 4M, or eventuall 10M. It's not chump change.
But I wish they would have included hdmi cables i can always add a hard drive but the not having the cables made me think that sony was cheap.
has been in development, hiring in January of 2008 specifically for this project. The PS3 (and 360 for that fact) is well within the specs for functional, fully compatible, entirely software-based PS2 emulation. The hardware removed may have been for good reasons: If your paying $23.72 per component part for the emulation chip and selling 10 million units, you're saving about 236 million in costs by developing an emulator. That's about 6 new first party or even more PSN games! Sony planned this even before the PS3's launch according to an article in mid-2006: http://ps3.ign.com/articles... For financial and marketing reasons they planned to re-introducing compatibility solely through software emulation later, closer to the end of the PS2's viable market life. In my opinion it would have made more sense to complete and release the emulator with the 40gig and all future models when the EE/components where removed. The Cell processor can certainly emulate a non-HD older game system with 32 megabytes of ram running at less than a tenth of the performance, since some examples of PS2 emulators already exist for the PC & Developers. http://www.emulator-zone.co... If anyone was creating a viable PS3/PS2 emulator, it would be the company that created the PS2. It is just a question of when this would be publicly released.
If you want more capacity, just replace the HDD.... And for the BC, it's all a money thing...
A flip flopping thing.
At least bluray is still a format used in the industry today. Don't give us flip-flopping BS when playing PS2 games should be the last thing a PS3 owner should be worried about.
"playing PS2 games should be the last thing a PS3 owner should be worried about." What a dumb thing to say. Regardless it's a feature that should have been implemented in every console, just like blu-ray. So spread your bs comments elsewhere.
The capacity isn't that much of an issue, as it can be replaced, but they should already announce backwards compatibility firmware! All hopes on Leipzig.
A 250 GB HDD costs 60-70€ on the web, so if you cry about "only 40 GB", you can still upgrade it for cheap easily. But i think if Sony released the 80 GB, it's essentially because of the number of games that need or offer an installation.
If you really want to push it further, for another $100 you can get a Tera byte of memory. http://www.bestbuy.com/site... EDIT: They took off the discount, it was marked down to $173, but now it's about $240.
That HDD is for a PC. You need 2.5 SATA laptop HDD's for the PS3.
My apologies, I swore I saw one at Best Buy though, maybe it's just in store, who knows. I saw it while I was shopping for my 120GB which was around the time Rainbow Six Vegas 2 came out.
That's what it sounds like to me.
It's the bc, even though installing a cheap hard drive is still inflation on an already expensive console. The "migration" mentality doesn't make sense if your expecting consumers to own both a ps2 AND a ps3. The 60gb near perfect bc was a "luxury" that never saw it's full potential as a selling point.
I agree, the 60GB was the best, and I'm not just saying that because I own it. #1 It was almost the perfect amount of memory, just the right price, still have BC at almost near perfect (still scalable PS1/PS2 games as well). In fact I even went back and play MGS1/2/3 before playing MGS4 on my 60GB and I've never had any problems with it other than the faulty HDD it came with. Which I simply replaced with a 120GB HDD and now I really don't have to worry about installing anything, I see, I Download, I Install.
I too am back playing mgs1,2,3 before playing 4 and am enjoying playing those on my 20GB PS3. The ps2 is hooked up to a monitor in the office and the ps3 is on the main tv in the living room. So when God of War III comes out what if a non playstation owner wants to play God of War I and II ... they have to buy a separate ps2 and ps3. Thank you deeznuts for providing that figure on the cost of BC .. $27. That amount per console is not chump change -- 10m consoles = $270 million of cost. Its too bad that they couldn't do software only b/c without having to patch individual titles as had to be done with xbox original titles. I think if the cost was around $30 - $35 million it would more than pay Sony back. However it does seem like a cost most ps3 consumers are willing to pay, but you have to weigh that with getting the price down due to competition and to appeal at least initially to more consumers. Microsoft not having as many original xbox titles probably had a lower though not insignificant cost -- even tho it was an afterthought to them they executed b/c pretty brilliantly. Now that the division makes money maybe it didn't hurt them so bad, tho still they havent really broke even yet over the span of both xbox and 360. I still have some minor hope that Sony will see the light and work on b/c for the 40G/80GCore consoles seeing as it really is important to consumers based on all these forum posts even tho Sony denies it.
Dude, Ive had all of the sku's for the ps3. I had a 60 gig, bought another 80 gig, but returned it and got a 40 gig. What I learned from all of this is that the 40 gig is my favorite. Reason being is that the 40 disperses no heat. Its cool to the touch, and for that it will last longer than any other ps3 sku. I wish I could say the same for the 60 and 80 gigs, cause you could fry an egg on those.
No idea what your talking about. I've never noticed my ps3 emitting that much heat. And I'm quite sure mostly everyone would prefer the ps3 60gb over any other sku version.
I have a 40GB (now 250GB) and the original 60GB. Never noticed much heat, but the fan goes on high on both models
He wanted to say just "sorry" "Sorry to all the consumers who bought the Playstation3 in believe Sony gave them years ago. I apologize for the dream and the promise we gave you that the PS§ will own the xbox360 on day1 of its release. I know that now after nearly 3 years you are still waiting for the power of the Playstation3. Believe me 'you have still a very powerfull console' which is at least equal to the xbox360. Keep waiting, we well show you the real Power of the PS3 with God of War 3 at the end of the lifespan of the PS3! And you know we will do it. GoD of War 2 also showed you the promised power of the PS2... i know a little bit late.. 7 years. your Hirai"
LOL! Classic! This dude is bozo like the rest of the Sony flops.
Microsoft Defense Force is out full force today, I know.. I know.. It's painful that you wasted $400 on a console that just ends up giving you the red ring of herpes but you know what move on guys, you made a crappy mistake, everyone does time to time. Pornflakes is willing to comfort you Crabs for about 4 bucks an hour.
60GB Launch System is the best :)
... doesn't matter. If you have your console long enough, you'll eventually fill it. Game installs (2-4GB a pop) Rock Band and GH downloads, not to mention demos and video. Rather then wait for it to become a problem, I replaced my 40GB drive with 250GB drive. $80 and 10 minutes of my time. Well worth it for the same price of one limited edition game.
Where is his pink shirt?Hahahaha
Not to shutdown is party but I, think the reason consumers liked the 80gig besides the bigger HDD was that it had some BC in it.
The newer 80GB model that Sony is releasing is nothing but a 40GB PS3 with a 80GB hard drive because the newer 80GB PS3 has the same functionality as the 40GB model. So many people think that if their current PS3 doesn't have as many Gigs as a newer model then all of a sudden it's not as good. All those 40GB PS3 owners have to do is buy a 80GB hard drive for the PS3 (very cheap) and they've got the same exact model as the newer 80GB version. I just think that a LOT of people will be mislead by this newer 80GB PS3 because the majority of people don't watch E3, and they don't keep up with gaming news, and they'll think that this 80GB PS3 has backwards compatibility with PS2 games just like the older 80GB PS3 models when it doesn't. Sony needs to have a big sticker on the box that says "NO PS2 Compatibility" or something so that people will know what they are getting into.
"We brought in the 80GB because we wanted to make sure we continued offering the value proposition to consumers in the true fashion of PlayStation." No, you brought in the 80GB because just about every game is requiring a 5GB install.
It has BC and the EE chip that enables it! Early adopters ftw!
If you're angry about them replacing the 40GB, you shouldn't. Businesses do this all the time, otherwise things would never improve.
Unlike you, Ive had 3 of the 4 sku's that playstation has offered. The 60 and 80 gigs are virtually the same when it comes to heat dispersion. The 40 gig is cool to the touch, thats why it ended up being my sku of choice. If you guys had any computer or electronics knowledge, you would understand that having less heat buildup in a console will make it last longer. Thats why the 360 had the RROD. It would get so hot in the inside that it got fried.
I have a strong feeling there will be Software BC for PS2 games before the end of the year.
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80 gig will be raplaced as well. and that ps3 will eventually be replaced by slim and so on and so on. Just get a ps3 and knonw that from there on you can costumize it how you like. I do believe that backwards compatibility will return through software emulator and all wil be right with the world.
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The wii is cool too..but for true next gen you got to go PS3 or Xbox 360. leave the PS2 and Wii for the kids and old people and go hardcore next gen for everybody else. Sony did it right by keep all three of is consoles in the same market...PSP, PS2 and PS3....Microsoft gave up on the old xbox and I can not even fault them...it was a smart move...sooner or later Sony will have to give up on the old PS2...(when the PS3 drops to $299 or less).....Nobody really cares about backwards compatibility on the PS3...this is overblown by the xbox fanboys...what people care about is PS3 games and bluray..... You want to watch a movie in true native 1080p...only possible on the PS3...or a bluray player...and you want to play games in 1080p, only possible on the PS3 or Xbox 360 (although the Xbox 360 has yet to have a true native 1080p game) Go for the future folks...go nextgen...give up the old and go with the new.
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