A friendly reminder that last gen had some bad games at first too, but if that got better, then so can this one.
Last gen didn't END great either. I've been growing more and more disconnected with gaming since the end of the PS2 era. It's been constantly downhill.
i agree ..but somehow BBorne reminded me old PS2 era (lot of content, not boring, immersive theme, great visuals,perfected in alot of things,complete story (no DLCcrap) ...it is long time since we saw a complete quality product ..(last time for me was MGS4+MGO (ok and Demons Souls) ...even the Uncharted series (+TLoUS) didnt impress me...
I have to admit that Bloodborne, while not my cup of tea, actually hearkens back to the days when games launched complete. No ridiculous season pass schemes, no DLC locked away on the disc, none of that BS. It was just a complete game. Last gen and this gen are really ruining gaming with all these anti-consumer measures and a reliance on DLC to nickel and dime gamers. The indie and mid-budget games are the ones I've found most decent, but for some reason mid-budget games are a rarity unless they're crowd-funded.
if you don't get impressed with tLoUs then no one will please you
I love lots of games but I thought TLOU was a terrible game, but with a good story. Not everyone likes the same things.
Every first party Nintendo game is a complete product, and a lot more fun then the flood of boring shooters on ps4/xb1
Don't forget it was fully functional without the day one patch
Because the last of us was a horrible end to last gen
and bioshock infinite.
I can only assume you haven't been paying attention. The last five or six years of been a godsend: The hegemony of AAAs is over; independent developers are quickly becoming more and more of a force to be reckoned with; crowdfunding is allowing for greater development transparency and the rebirth of entire genres that died out years ago; some developers are actively fighting back against obscene monetization schemes; developer blogs and twitter accounts of led to an unprecedented level of communication between developers and gamers; services like GOG have risen to preserve the enormous legacy of older games; and Nintendo is finally beginning to enter the 21st century. So while, yeah, you could say that the gaming industry is at the lowest point its ever been... you could also say it's at the highest point its ever been. For every company perpetrating horrendous, anti-consumer abuses... there's another company doing something fantastically pro-consumer. Hell, just a day or two ago Larian announced a massive update for DOS--an "enhanced edition" that re-works all of the combat encounters in the game, adds a ton of new areas and sidequests, gamepad support, and a rewritten story (including a new endiing)... and is giving it away for free.
Sounds like you are talking about PC gaming. Things are much better there. All games still available from 30 years back, emulators to play console games, etc. Many genres are still doing strong RTS, strategy, 4X, simulation and many others. The genres that has been a bit less active has made comeback: cRPG, point-and-click adventures, etc. AAA games are a bit mess. They are designed for consoles and PC is clearly not the main target - it shows and feels.
"Sounds like you are talking about PC gaming" Ummm, nope. Sounds like he's talking about gaming in general.
I wouldn't say "constantly downhill", but certainly a strong downward trend, there have been a handful of bright spots here and there.
Last gen didn't start off great because the 360 launched a year early with nothing good to play. But 2006 when the PS3 and WIi launched there were some decent games. Zelda Twilight Princess (although cross platform), Gears of War, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Resistance. Wii Sports. And the following year there were a lot of great games like Mass Effect, Halo 3, Bioshock, Uncharted, Ratchet Motorstorm, Mario Galaxy, COD: 4, Portal, Crysis, THe Orange Box, Assassin's Creed, and more. So yeah last-gen did start off well, and better than this gen currently is.
Well, if you had a Ps3, last gen was strong all the way, save for the first year. If you had a 360, you were screwed after 2009. PCs had the strongest finish last gen, though, since they usually shine most when consoles are old.
I had a xbox 360 and didnt feel screwed. Did Microsoft put too much focus on Kinect? Yes. But they also put out a lot of games after 2009 I enjoyed.
Or you are just getting older... At least that is how it is for me, Games just have to really accomplish a lot now to give me the "wow" factor and enough variety to keep me playing. Im only 26, but I can tell that no game will ever make me feel like Zelda: Ocarina of time, GTA 3, Halo:CE, did, where I could not wait until I got home to play.
It's all part of getting older unfortunately. Least it is in my case, hehe.
Yeah I can see that, I'm just about to be 26 and I'm thinking about giving my ps4 to my younger brother for graduation, not because of lack of games just lack of interest for me in gaming in general, which is odd because I like looking at let's play videos on YouTube for who knows why... I just can't see myself sinking in a whole day on game anymore
im 25 and i can tell you that a lot has changed for me too at this age. if i do game its only once in a while, a quick FPSonline fix with killzone mercs or a $2 PSnow rental once a month for 4 hours where i dont even make it to the second hour etc. i know i still love games bc i still am on n4g almost everyday and i had a blast playing MK at my cousins, i just dont like most of this gen so far and dont see myself getting involved until the likes of MGS or Gran Turismo, if anything.
Every gen has those WOW stand out moments in their life cycle. This current gen has yet to have one of those moments, but after this E3 will see it coming down the road.
"Last gen didn't END great either." You're kidding right? In the year before the new gen started we saw The Last of Us, Bioshock Infinite, GTA V, Dark Souls 2, Ni No Kuni, etc.
I think it's funny that we think the end of the PS2 era is when everything went downhill. Meanwhile, my Dad thinks everything went downhill when they released the PS1. It HAS to be a getting older thing. Once you aren't the target generation anymore, things start to suck.
this is called aging, welcome aboard :-)
PS3 in first year: Uncharted NG: Sigma Warhawk Resistance Folklore R&C COD 4 (revolutionary at the time) Some good indies All of these were pretty good games, even if some were ignored. PS4 in first year: Killzone Knack Drive Club Cod 12 or whatever lol Infamous Some HD remakes. Some good indies While some of these games are good, i still dont think they touch the last gen's launch year. Its funny how the PS3, a console accused of lacking decent games for years (anyone remember "no gaemz"?) still had a better launch year than any of the 8th gen consoles did.
PS3 came out in NA amd Japan in 2006. So some of those titles might have been out over a year
I know, i live in America and all those titles were out in 2006/2007. You can look them up if you dont believe me :P
You forgot the PS3 taking crap in general because "Its harder to program for". That overall features which where common in the PS2 wound up being removed. With some of it sold back as DLC.
There were ZERO features from the PS2 cut and sold as DLC on PS3. WTF are even talking about get off the drugs....Let me guess you still want to try and cry about BC, even though it was removed from the PS3 due to the emulation only working on about 60% of games if that, after removing it from the PS3s that actually had PS2 guts inside to bring down the price....Oh wait MS cut out emulated BC also, after claiming they wouldn't stop until 100% of original Xbox games were BC
Games. Game features. With the HD gaming gen - in general, that's Xbox 360 and PS3 - game features were removed from game series. Game modes where removed from sports games, FPS, even costume and color options were taken out of fighting games, only to be offered again as DLC. Reading comprehension: You're doing it wrong.
Wolf Among Us, Walking Dead S02, Shadow of Mordor, Dragon Age Inquisition, Alien Isolation... you can count those too.
Except those are on last gen. I was just talking about current gen games, same with the examples i gave for 7th gen. I will give it to you that this gen has more cross gen titles versus those that came out on both 7th and 6th gens, but that's not much of a bonus for me. I could play LBP 3, TLOU, and Dragon Age on PS3. Bloodbourne is what finally sold me a PS4.
I agree with you last gen came out harder than this one just like every gen before gen 8.
360 had Condemned criminal origins Project Gotham Call of duty 2 Ghost recon advanced warfighter never came to ps3 Oblivion Kameo Perfect dark zero Burn out takedown Battlefield 2: Modern Combat Geometry wars. Fight night All these games came out in the first 3 months
Every time I see someone mention Condemned it makes me want a new sequel. Awesome series.
360 also beats the Xbone's first year by a country mile. Yet we'll still have all these people defending for one reason or another saying every gen has a slow start, that it's normal for a console to still have such a lacking line up 18 months in :l just for the record: Wii's first year Super Mario Galaxy Super Paper Mario Twilight Princess Battalion Wars Excite Truck Metroid Prime 3 Zack and Wiki Those are just off the top of my head, still beats the Wii U's first year.
You left out Heavenly Sword - despite the general hate for the dev thx to dmc that was a really good game at the time.
Cod 4 wasn't in the first year vid 3 was ps3's first cod and it was pretty bad.
COD 4 came out november 5, 2007. Less than one year after the launch of the PS3.
Four of those Ps3 games are some of my absolute favorites of all time. Zero of the Ps4 ones are.
Folklore was fantastic.
People will always remeber things diffently from what they were, this gen has maybe not been so impressive because we've seen better or similar, but younger guys are just experiencing this for the first time, so they take a bit too seriously, I took my ps2 and ps1 super serial. Now I just game, have sex, make money (work), poop, get pissed at life and then be happy..... yhh you know the usual
Its been a slowwww start but it looks like things will finally pick up. By late 2016 we should have 10 or 11 good games to play.
thing is last gen felt like so much more of a leap . bigger graphics leap and much better online inetrgration than the consoles before .it felt like you were getting something cutting edge. this gen so far just feels like more of the same with less original ideas bloodborne is great but is actually the only game I'd miss if I hadnt made the jump when ps4 released . the other games I have really enjoyed I could've happily played on my 360 or ps3 the other ps4 exclusives, infamous, driveclub and the order have been mediocre at best . rest of good stuff has been remakes of games I just played last gen so havent bothered . I dont own a xbone but I see it much the same going to grab the witcher 3 this weekend , hopefully another game like bloodborne that lives up to the current gen tag . and hopefully battlefront 3 really brings it to sell current gen to the slow adopters
Completely agree. Last gen I got the 360 first after the PS3 was delayed for the second time in Europe. The interface and online implementation was mind boggling. Then I loaded up my first game which happened to be GRAW and my head just completely melted!!! It really felt like a massive leap from my trusty PS2. There have been some great games released but I've yet to have a "holy sh*t" moment like I had, numerous times last gen.
Yeah cuz Gears of War, Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect weren't great...
Add GRAW, Hitman, and ES4: Oblivion. I had a great time with the 360 in its early years.
Ye those were the best years for last gen to me with cod4 & 2, Gears 1, Oblivion, GRAW, Rainbow, ME, Saints 1, BF Modern Combat, Bioshock and Dragon Age Origins. Doesn't get much better than that for me.
What I'm left wondering is how did they screw up GeoW so badly after the first one, online I mean, I could game on that for hours small skirmish matches where awesome and being the last one left alive was intense especially after u just witnessed your friend get curb stomp.. But the sequels just never recaptured that magic for me..
Damn straight! Also, wasn't Fable 2 released in that timeframe? God, I loved that game... Chip-Chip was such a good dog. As for this gen, I've had no complaints... Titanfall, Mario Kart, Forza, Bayonetta and Sunset Overdrive have kept me happy, exclusive-wise. If I owned a PS4, I'd probably be less-satisfied - Bloodborne's just not enough to justify my buying one... here's hoping Uncharted 4 lives up to the hype.
Although some fun games at the beginning of last gen things really started for me with the release of Gears of War.
You gotta understand Devs working with new systems as easyer as they maybe they still need time to deveolpe for. SDKs were sent out a Good Game takes average 2-3 plus years to create.. Sony has more first party studios we keep demanding Remakes not helping matters when you wanting New games at same time. Be patiant MS laughing at sony first 2 years on ps3 Then look what happened Headlines New sony IP Sony bought such and such studio E3 was getting more and more dominating by sony. Kaz said in a interview when asked how you feel about MS having more games or something to that extent He said we will be like a train his words were right, PS3 started off slow the train steadaly got faster once it hit its top speed MS leaning more on 3RD Part trying get exclusive deals,And trying push kinnect get into the casual market. The ps4 it will become bigger than the ps3,graphics now looks good but as all consoles time we see another level of graphics. Sony are The Gods of Gaming industry as they "once" were in electricals. No disrespect to Xboxers or Nintendo players actually I have respect for Nintendo.
Uncharted 4 is when next gen really begins.
Uncharted 4, Halo 5, and Horizon are when next gen begins IMO.
That's the problem though... We want NEW not sequels...
Who's we? You don't speak for everyone and neither do I. I will say those sequels are from great games.
Last gen started out lame,but picked up over time on PS3. The same is happening with PS4, it'll pick up over time and you'll be getting good games every year. Same can probably be said for the Xb1, just give both systems a min to gain a big libary of games. I won't switch to the PS5 or XB2 until after 8 years.
That's the main thing people seem to forget and something that a couple have mentioned up above. PS3 gen started slow, but kept getting stronger and stronger, and just didn't didn't stop. Hell ps4's launch year, TLOU, GoW Ascension, Ni No Kuni, Sly Thieves in Time, Gran Turismo 6, Beyond 2 Souls, and whatever other game I may be forgetting launched out, so many devs just weren't fully committed to the ps4 yet. I imagine the same this gen, starting off slower but picking up immense steam as it goes along. That's just how Sony works. It seems this gen though, whether you like the titles or not, you're getting more early on than you did with the ps3. It always just takes patience with Sony.
This year is looking good and next year even better thanks to FFXV and the possible Falllout 4! This year as alot of serious GOTY contenders and my bet is on MGS5 that game will blow our minds.
Exactly, and we already have great games for this generation, for every system.
I loved the 360 but mostly because I'm primarily a sports gamer...but Nba2k6, Nhl 2k6, Fight Night 3, and Tiger woods 06 were actually great. I'm not sure when Oblivion came out but that was the game that made me buy 360 as soon as I could. There were stinkers too like Madden, Kameo, and Perfect Dark. Also Dead Rising was a big deal when it first hit. People were just starting to buy HDTVs too so games were a big step up for people used to PS2 games.
Yup, it sure didn't. Red rings of death and $600 PS3s didn't do the seventh generation any favors. This generation has the tech, just not the games yet – just like 2008 didn't as much as 2009. I think 2016 is still indicative of better times to come, but this year we still got Bloodborne and The Witcher 3 while we're still waiting for Batman, Yoshi, Xenoblade, and Halo 5!
This generation of consoles do not have the tech or the games, that's why we don't really see a major difference in the graphics,yeah the games do look better but they ain't blowing anything out of the water, hell witcher 3 struggles to keep 30fps wtf!
By 2007 there was Gears of War, Bioshock and COD4 available. Those games are classics. People who play games bitch more than anyone. There are amazing games available on next gen right now, with many more to come. There have never been more options for gamers yet they still cry.
Agreed. With Dying Light, Evolve, Zombie Army Trilogy, Bloodborne, The Order, Wolfenstein Old Blood, Project Cars, The Witcher 3, ESO, Batman Arkham Knight, F1 2015, Rainbow Six, SW BF and I know I'm missing a whole lot. Has anyone not really factored just how many games are being released? Sooo no one is factoring many PC devs now making console games? ie Wasteland 2, Elite Dangerous coming to PS4 and XONE etc. Didn't even mention smaller titles, Adrift, Wild, No Man Sky, Ori, Everyone Gone To Rapture, The Tomorrow Children, Hyper Light, Below, Transistor, Below etc. We've had the greatest influx of games in the HISTORY of gaming, NO other time period have we EVER seen such a huge amount of quality games being released. Both XONE and PS4 factually had the largest launches of their respective histories. To hear gamers complain like this is almost a joke. We have games getting announced seemly every day for PS4 and XONE. The open format of publishing alone is giving us MORE games then ever before. I'm sorry but that is just undeniable. I have a huge list of PS4 games to still play and beat, that was not the same PS3's first year, not even slightly. This gen by default is already one of the strongest and will be the gen many publishers I PROMISE YOU will cite in terms of amazing launches. MS next gen will make it even BETTER as they have adopted the open publishing format and next gen clearly, they will have a launch similar to PS4's and that will only add to the list of games being made for both. I just can't complain.
I'm honestly a bit surprised with that sentiment. Within the first year + 1/4 of Xbox 360's launch, we'd already seen the technology + advancements in online capabilities do some wonderful things. The likes of Condemned: Criminal Origins, GRAW, Gears of War, Dead Rising, and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion are just some of the early examples that really affected me. Now? While I can't deny having a good time with some AAA/indie titles, it just seems to pale in comparison.
Graw needed about 50 patches to work without crashing and after a couple of delays. I loved it, eventually but that game gave me such trouble. Condemned I loved, scared the bejeezus out of me. Perfect Dark was amusing to play online but truly a ridiculous game. I had a 360 at launch (late 05) and it wasn't until Rainbow Six and Gears of War dropped sometime in 2007 that I was really happy with it. On Xbox One I've put a frankly obscene amount of time into Battlefield 4 and love it, dipping into other games now and then with lots of media usage. I'm very happy with the system. I don't think the sheer awe of first playing Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Fallout 3 or GTA4 can be recreated, or if so then not easily. Those games blew my mind, I couldn't believe the scope and fidelity of the environments.
This gen is already better than last gen for me. My PS4 already last longer than the first 360 console I bought! I was so pissed that time, one of the reasons I never got myself a Xbone. For the fear of hardware failure...
Last-gen really had very good games in the 1st year, just like many of the lists that people here made above me. Things a re moving damn slowly in this gen.