GGG asks which console maker needs to "win" E3 in the minds of consumers the most. The answer they provide might surprise you though all three could use a boost coming out of E3.
Gamers need to win. Having a variety of games announced, rather than the typically milked dude-bro games from developers, is what would be a win to gamers overall. The big three simply need to show the best they've got and actually have a variety of stuff coming out during the summer/early fall. While there are plenty of great games out there, not everyone wants to wait for the holiday or next year for more great games coming out. While each topic covered in the article for the big three makes sense, it's all subjective and up in the air as of right now since no one knows what will be announced. Saying there's a clear winner right now or saying someone is in the lead to take E3 is complete garbage.
I don't thnk the article is saying who will win, its saying who the writer thinks needs to score that "win" in gamer's minds at E3.
Yeah you're 100% right. It isn't talking about who will win, but I know some people will take it and spin this article like that here in the comment section unfortunately.
@mrbojingles is right, it's not the usually who's going to win, but who needs to "win" (get the mind-share / loyalty of gamers). And the answer to that is all 3 of them for very different reasons. Sony: Obviously they're the console to beat this gen, but Sony's problem is that they haven't been killing it with the first party exclusives like they did last generation. Fans are loyal, but they're really testing everyone's patience with all the secrecy and lack of showings. At this point we know that pretty much every PlayStation developer is working on a PS4 game so where are they. This E3 / Gamescom / TGS has to send out that message, of this is why these games are taking so long by either showing many of their studios are working on Morpehus content, or literally jaw dropping gaming experiences that can only be found on the PS4. If not it gives people a reason to buy another console this holiday instead of saving money for Morpheus and Exclusives this holiday and 2016. Sony has a bunch of games, but it's time to start showing them. MS: They have a bunch of games they've been showing since launch that still haven't made it to stores, but this is their chance to really get the majority of gamers back on their side or at least in their good grace. MS has a great holiday line-up already with Forza, Fable, Tomb Raider, and Halo 5. Now it's time to see their early 2016 line-up so they can really sell strong console numbers globally this holiday season and pull away from a distance second. This E3 is make or break for the XBO, and it's future success. This is their one and only chance to mend all the mistrust and issues gamers felt since the launch of the console. I can personally say the XBO is a good console with minor hardware issues, but E3 is MS chance to not only say it, but to prove it with games and content. Nintendo: Honestly I don't think Nintendo even cares about winning E3, but what they need to do is show their fans that they're going to continue to support Wii U, and fortunately they have the games to prove that. The only way Nintendo can "win" E3 is by showing new hardware "NX", but IMO it's to soon and I don't see that happening until 2016. Sony task: 1. Exclusive Games, 2. Killer Bundles, 3. Price drops $329 - $349 (better saved until Gamescom, to not hurt Summer sales, for a September price drop) MS task: 1. $299 XBO (better saved for Gamescom, but they have to get the news out there before Sony) 2. Exclusives 3. Xbox & Windows Nintendo: 1. Complete fan service (Wii U is at the mercy of the gamers now, and Nintendo's budget to support it) 2. 3DS love????? 3. Hints at the future for Nintendo (are you going to listen to what gamers want on your next hardware, or are you going to repeat the same mistakes over again)
while Sony has the lead in sales, needs definitely to win the E3 and console race , because fail is not an option for near-bankruptcy-Sony and behind them is coming the MS-tsunami of never-ending money
Microsoft needs this win while they are still alive in this generation. Nitendo has already lost the home console market. There is nothing they can do that will salvage that market.
i would say the pressure is on microsoft the most. nintendo has no hope of ever coming back to the masses if that is what is regarded as a win. no real third party support and weak hardware in comparison will do that. sony can coast, they don't really need to win anything. this is microsoft's home turf, it is one of the key areas they need to regroup. they need to prove they are invested in gaming, not just recycling the same 4 ip's and trying to buy third party support. the thing is we will likely see the same attitudes here from various regulars. which just goes to show they've already made up their minds and how optimistic they are. it's always amusing to see how biased the comments are. i personally think it is nintendo who is doing the most supporting it's own hardware. just a shame they have pushed third party support away and still like going against the grain.
What exactly has winning E3 ever really achieved in the long run? About the only thing that every company needs to do is not screw up so badly as to cause a huge amount of negative press with takes away from what they actually do have to show.
IMO only fanboys need to 'win' the big 3 need to have a strong show and its up to gamers to like or not what they see and possibly to like all of them
@breakpad What is it with people like you always trying to say Sony is going bankrupt? Pretty misinformed. They have $130+ Billion in assets............ http://www.wikinvest.com/st...
Sega needs to win....just once guys come on wtf! XD
Konami needs to win... but... https://twitter.com/KazHira...
@DK: I laughed so hard I hit my head on the wall. Edit: And then I think I broke my foot jumping off this hotel bed.
@Spotie https://www.youtube.com/wat... That tweet is literally this video XD
Same thing i was going to say Gamers are the real winners here
"gamers win e3" people say that every E3, like clockwork E3 has become a race for who will be the first person to say gamers win E3
As a gamer, should you care about anything else? I play games not console wars.
Gamers win E3! Group hug everybody! Awwwwwwwwwwwwww
Really it is not about winning. The question is will i have to set thur stuff that isn't about gaming. I remember when they all use to win in their own way. I think we should be hoping they they all have a stellar E3. It is like a meeting place of great minds that has turned into a marketing lie fest. I'm tired of the cgi, and 4 titans running your console game. Give us game play we can play, hours of it, not your latest suit.
We always win, because even if they only announce garbage or try to pull fast ones with DLC ridden f2p stuff we always have the choice to not buy into it.
SNK or NEC damn it! Neo GEO
It doesn't matter to be honest. There has never been any data supporting that whoever the perceived "winner" is of E3 positively moves the sales needle of any significance. The ONLY exception I would make to this is in the years of hardware launches. I do think the positive (or negative) momentum that is created during the hardware unveils can carry over into initial sales for the first year.
Gamers: We need games announced for all 3 systems. Some for 2015 and many for 2016.
we as the gamers need to win and microsoft/sony/nintendo/and whoever else decides to take the stage just needs to make sure that they entertain us and give us the games,apps,and features that we deserve as a consumers of the respective consoles.
Sony definitely doesn't need it, they have this gen won by miles. Now would be a good time to come out with some unexpected announcements that will nail the coffin completely shut though
Sony have likely won when it comes to hardware... But that is less than half the story!!
We all know Sony is gonna have some heavy hitters on E3.
You can always win more.
The nail in the coffin is halo 5 sp shown at e3.
sorry to disappoint but Halo was never that big outside NA/UK
Lol take your fanboy goggles off you sound ridiculous. Halo has never been a momentum shifter and now its become a desperate redundant franchise.
....in glorious 720p/60fps
It doesn't matter. Microsoft could come out with the best lineup an Sony could do TV TV TV and the Xbox one would still get outsold. Microsoft could put out the crappiest show ever and Sony could knock it out the park and the Xbox One would still get outsold. Nintendo could announce game after game after game after game and people wouldn't care. Just look for good shows from all three and call it a day. No one will win because it isn't a contest and no one has to win to remain successful.
I'm curious to see if Fallout 4 is announced and I definitely want to see what the new Mass Effect will look like but as far as who needs to win? I think Sony and MS are in good positions to please their fans no matter what. Nintendo in my opinion is the extreme underdog here and they seriously need to score the victory.
Im agreeing with you more and more of late. ....but I would say nintendo needs a great e3 more than sony or microsoft.... I mean its almost like nintendo isn't in this contest if you know what I mean
I am thinking Nintendo as well, but MS is also a fairly close second. Sony isn't in a position that needs to even try to win. They definitely have the very best fans on the entire planet. They'll defend Sony for anything they do regardless of quality or how the general gaming community would feel. That alone nets Sony an automatic advantage over their competitors and beats most of the battle.
But on the other hand the gaming journalists tend to favor microsoff and nintendo more than sony. But yes Sonys fans are some of the most devoted.
@Veneno Gaming journalists favor those two more than Sony? I don't know where this tale of fiction became popular to say but that is not the case. We have seen MS and especially Nintendo equally crapped on by journalist.
Nintendo needs it.
The whole WINNING E3 thing is ridiculous because it's completely subjective. Sony fans will say Sony won no matter what they show. Same for MS. Same for Nintendo. I've seen many E3's where it was completely obvious to me who had the best showing, but fanboys on the net disagree. To fanboys, their favorite company has already won E3... a month early.
The only time I could say that there was a winner was when Sony announced the price of the PS1, which pretty much took Sega and Nintendo out of the market. Then when Sony said they weren't going to do the DRM or check-ins for the PS4. There are moments where no matter what is shown, things just stick out and make all the big announcements almost meaningless, and those moments are what drive sales. Otherwise, about the best these companies can hope to win is some more interest in people buying their system. Since there is no way to really measure the effect of an E3 conference on sales, it's hard to say there is a definitive winner.
we, the gamers
I think the phenomenal success the PS4 is having is overshadowing the fact that the XBOX One is actually selling well. Nintendo I think needs to have a successful showing more than its competition. They are getting crushed
The PS4 is selling phenomaly well, but people just want to ignore the fact that xbox is outselling both of its predecessors at this time!
Funny how Xbox One is selling at the same pace now that PlayStation 3 was at this point in time last gen. 12 million in 1.5 years is a call for doom and gloom for PS3 apparently, yet suddenly everyone is ok with Xbox One accomplishing the same goal in the same time frame. Microsoft's fastest selling console is now on par with Sony's slowest selling console. Just goes to show people have much high standards for PlayStation than they do Xbox.
Sega Master System yeah we the gamers, i think those who post this type of articles are getting horny to see console wars comments. i hope all will do it great on E3
I agree that the goal of this article is to get the Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo fanboys all in one place duking it out. But each year, an E3 winner is declared. Fanboys from each platform claims the victory. Don't forget that PC is throwing its elitist hat into the ring too this year. lol. They could step in and dominate....Maybe not, but should be still be fun to watch. You know it's bad for Nintendo when PC is having their 1st ever E3 conference and they aren't. It's like they're conceding the victory to its competition.
Ouya needs it the most.
Games that dont suck and are underdeveloped... How about done real IP creativity ... No more remasters or 3s,4s or 5s in a game series..
Why not both?
I would say Nintendo needs to "win" E3 the most. Not because they are doing that bad but because they need to be perceived as doing better than they are.
Nintendo gave up on the Wi U early and is already focsed on the next generation so it would not help them or anyone else if they win this year- Sony is way out in front and seems to be more complacent than Microsoft over the last year+ because the could be Microsoft seems to have been giving the most effort to overcome the disastrous Xbox 1 launch and has seen some results for their efforts but everyone would win IMO if MSFT is the "blow away" winner this year (full disclosure I only own a Wii U and 3DS) MSFT having a huge win would help reward them for their efforts and increase their sales- anything that makes Sony feel some market place pressure is good at this point It is best for Sony and MSFT to be scrapping it out month after month- Nintendo has still not realized and/or admitted that they ARE competing w Sony and MSFT in addition to mobile etc- So until they realize this, them winning e3 does not really help anyone....yet
Winning E3 is not about sales potential, it's about which platform holder had the most entertaining conference. Last year, Microsoft delivered a solid, cohesive conference with an adequate balance of new and old game announcements. Unfortunately, they didn't have much to show in terms of new gameplay footage, but the new games announced were appreciated by fans nonetheless. Nintendo had a better balance of new and old game coverage, and unlike Microsoft, Nintendo showed almost all gameplay from newly announced titles which is always appreciated. However, the utter lack of 3DS titles was disappointing. Sony has some good announcements, but its conference went on for too long, was bloated and wasn't as cohesive as the other conferences. In addition, it contained more throwaway announcements and unnecessary segments and at least one fairly awkward PR speech.
Nintendo gave up early on Wii U??????? Nintendo Land New Super Mario Bros. U Game & Wario Wii Part U The Wonderful 101 LEGO City Undercover Pikmin 3 The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD Super Mario 3D World Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze Mario Kart 8 Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Bayonetta 2 Hyrule Warriors Captain Toad Treasure Tracker Kirby and the Rainbow Curse Mario Party 10 Splatoon Devil's Third Mario Maker Xenoblade Chronicles X Fatal Frame V Yoshi's Woolly World Star Fox Illusory Revelation Fire Emblem The Legend of Zelda ---- Not counting Pokken Fighter Next Level Games's New game Retro Studios's New game Possible New Collaboration Titles Unannounced games to be revealed at E3 and Third Parties Exclusives The NX isn't coming out next year. So what gave up?
What is the NX?
they gave up early- they have had huge software droughts since launch- they gave little effort to advertise the console and most of its games- they did little to fill in the software gaps - they have been investing less $ s since launch not more- Although they have some good games the library lacks depth and diversity across all genre s except platformers, they did not follow through on some of the most exiting potential for the wii u like asymetrc gameplay- sales prove there efforts- for an iconic company like Nintendo that has many fans who want to like the wii u, they did not do enough to attract them- virtually no 3rd party games I could go on and on- Bigduo: Its ALL about sales directly or indirectly- E3 is a big marketing event more so than a sales event but it still is about sales at the end of the day I agree Nintendo had the best e3 last year and it did not translate to sales however, it was due to Nintendo s lack of follow thru to capitalize on the excitement they generated at e 3- Nintenod has talked a big game re the Wii u a few times during its lifetime but they have not "walked the walk" and done nothing to capitalize/continue on any momentum they managed to generate after a good e3 or key game releases
(Obligatory "the gamers win" comment)
Nintendo first, then Microsoft, then Sony. As for publishers, Konami needs all the everything. Even then, it still won't be enough.
Konami, like many other major publishers, is on its way to mobile. E3 isn't going to be relevant for them in the grand scheme of things. Console gaming is on its way to another crash, and this time for good. Mobile, PC, and instant set-top boxes are where the future lies. Nintendo is getting prepared, and they're smart for dabbling into mobile.
Dreams are nice. What you say will be fantasy, at best.
Console presence in Japan is a mere shadow of the past. Even handhelds are nowhere near as popular as mobile there. More and more major publishers are slowly dipping their legs into the ocean as the days go by. That is kind of hard to consider a dream. It is working well for Square-Enix. Capcom is releasing the next Breath of Fire on mobile. Sega's newest Sonic game is also on mobile. Take Two Interactive is now taking their portfolio of major franchises to mobile as well. Again, pretty difficult to write off as a dream. Arcade was once a very strong and popular medium for gaming. Now it's virtually non-existent. The console isn't immune to the same fate, especially in the light of mobile's increasing driving force, cloud gaming services like Sony's, and ultimately a strong trend on convenience. Mobile and cloud gaming has the potential to be far more convenient than consoles, much like consoles were more convenient than arcade. Convenience is key, and mobile and streaming services do that better. This is why E3's importance to Konami is next to nothing, with maybe the exception of some more MGSV information. Consoles are a dying breed of gaming. Fantasy? Very little doubt about that.
Sony there staring to f up with the PS4 and its only a matter of time before they lose the lead in the USA 399$ isn't flying no more and there overprice 449$ bundles are doing nothing. and now they have this to go up against http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
agreed they stopped carring so much since they are in the lead
How have they f upped in the the USA? As far as if the price is flying anymore, it would seem that Sony is selling at a pretty steady rate, with no sign of slowing down, so it would seem to be gliding just fine. One bundle from MS isn't going to change the sales for Sony, it may increase sales for MS, but most people do take the time to pick the console they want. It's not really an impulse buy once the price goes above $200. Not sure why you think Sony doesn't care anymore. They released 2 big IP's this year already, there are a couple other mid-tier 1st party IP's releasing this year, and they will likely have at least one surprise game to release this year announced at E3, like they did with LBP3 last year. In the mean time they have every single one of their studios working on PS4 games, and we only know what 2 of them are working on, but don't know what the 2nd teams on those same studios are working on. Most of them are long overdue on announcing or releasing their titles, so this years E3 may be pretty explosive for Sony.
Nintendo need a big win as sales are slowing down and the fact yet again they are only doing a nintendo direct and the only major titles to look forward to is a delayed zelda and mario maker its not looking good for the future of WiiU. nintendo needs some massive announcements at E3 to assure those people who already own a wiiu like myself they made the right choice choose the console. Sony and MS already are selling plenty even if Sony is selling over double what MS is plus they both got plenty of games aready announced BEFORE E3.. Nintendo have like 4 major titles and only 2 that will sell more than 2 million outside of 3ds(the ones I just mentioned)