GGG examines recent sales numbers for the major consoles in the US and debates whether they need price reductions and if so, by how much.
Why not anywhere else in the world?
Because the article is just analyzing April NPD data (which is US only) and giving an opinion on what to do to improve US sales?
People have said Sony doesnt need a price drop, the system sells itself. They can drop it if they feel this April 'win' for MS is threatening. It wouldnt hurt if XB1 drop the price to $299 and Wii-u should go to $249 or lower.
I don't think Sony will think much of a one month marginal victory Microsoft had to make steep cuts to obtain.
Can they really drop xbone's price any further? They are practically giving it away as it is. Sony still have the price drop card to play and when they do it will be over. You can start expecting 3 to 1 sales.
$350 is giving it away? Heck, the X360 have a $199 Arcade SKU on release. Nice logic there.
^It also lacked major features that were standard such as HDMI, WiFi, etc and the 360 launched at $299 and $399. You can't compare them anyway that'd be like saying PS3 was $499 so PS4 must be losing money. -_-
To think that you have the gall to call others out for trolling is comedic. OT: Each respective company will make further or initial price adjustments, as is the case with Sony, whenever they feel the time is right for them I presume.
Wii U needs a price drop the most.
$199 - $249 would be nice. But more importantly than the price drop....Nintendo needs to really up their marketing of the games. MK8, smash bros, Xenoblade all are still relevant games that don't get enough airplay.
Nintendo has been selling refurbished Deluxe Wii U's on their website at $199 for a while now. Unless they've sold out again, there's the viable option. Is it just me or does it feel like everyone has been IGNORING that?
@monkeyman Has it ever occurred to you that MAYBE, just MAYBE people aren't looking into buying one used? Especially if it has been returned for some sort of malfunction? Personally I think anywhere between $150-$199 would be the perfect spot the more lower the better ;)
As much as the wii u is a good console, I agree. It's just not being picked up by the general public like it should be. I actually predicted this in 2010 before we had even heard of the wii u. It was obvious that the wiis success is from parents buying it for their kids and wii fit helped a bunch. But that audiance is not one to change to the next iteration every time a new one comes along. There was no way the second wii was ever going to see the same success as the original. It's a shame because it has some decent games but I think we all saw it coming.
The Wii did capture most of the casual gamers last gen due to motion controls. Now the casual gamer are following the media and purchasing the PS4. The PS4 is the most powerful console, but until next year it's only a multiple console, with the exception of Bloodborne. IMO And don't give me that casual gamers are only on Smart phones.
I know Nintendo does at this point with the Wii U. I think a $50 price drop would do wonders for the system. A $249.99 price tag gets it a little closer to a sweet spot for some people waiting to jump on and get one. I have a feeling at E3 Nintendo will announce one. Just logical at this point.
The Splatoon bundle was just announced for $299, so I do not see Nintendo dropping the price of Wii U for at least 6 months. As for PS4/XB1, they have already had a price drop. Doubt very much they will have another for at least a year. PS4 is selling very well. Why would Sony drop the price? Sony, is not going to say, hey our system is selling well, why don't we take $50 off our current price and make less money per unit.
When did PS4 get a price drop? Also, XB1 got like 2-3 cuts in a year so anything goes for MS. Also, console makers have cut price despite bundles coming out before. It wouldn't be a huge deal to see a stand alone Wii U for $249, Splatoon bundle for $299. Also, isn't the Splatoon bundle Best Buy only? The Splatoon bundle could just go down to $249 too.
Sony could probably raise the price.
@mrbojingles right before it came out sony was going to bundle the ps eye and move with it but chickened out. That move has had them sailing on good will ever since the reveal. Ms is posed to offer a subscription service and make the xbox one free, they are basically giving win 10 away, they could do that with xbox one for sure. Also you are very right about the wiiu, Sure it has some cool hgames coming but every thing could use a lower price.
@bojingles- The Xbox has received one official price cut, along with the option to buy the Kinectless SKU. It hasn't received two price cuts, let alone three.
They did just start production on Wii U systems in March after not making any in FY2015, hence why last year Iwata said they weren't selling them at a loss (since the spent the money manufacturing those FY2015 units during FY2014) A $19.99 Player's Choice budget line would help to. Maybe a smaller Game pAD and Wii Mini like redesign to cut costs?
It's unlikely Nintendo would announce a Wii U price drop at E3 when it has already announced the Splatoon console bundle for $300 which comes out at the end of May. Nintendo hasn't entered panic mode yet for Wii U, relying too much on various console bundles + digital incentives as an alternative option and flagship IP releases (Smash Bros and Mario Kart 8 from last year) which have not performed well enough to drive hardware sales to where they really need to be. If it does get a price cut, Nintendo wouldn't likely announce it until around September anyway. It would also probably be done at a time when Nintendo has one of its potentially better selling games coming out like Mario Maker which happens to be coming out in September. I would think a redesigned GamePad wouldn't actually do much to help the console's situation. It's still positioned as the console's system-seller centerpiece, so even with a better battery life and a slimmer, slicker model wouldn't likely change the console's bigger problems like how its still just a 1st party machine without significant third party support or an official price cut. Nintendo needs to make Wii U ideal as a companion platform which would require hitting a $200250 mass market price point.
Except a new controller with a smaller, more modern screen would lower costs. They're used aged tech which doesn't lower in price as fast since they are one of the few asking for it, no "economies of scale" discount. A 480p (still) 5.2 inch Game Pad could lower costs a lot, even if all you take off is an inch. Could be difference between adding $75 to every system or $30, depending on what screen size/tech they go with. They could: Make Wii U have a top loading drive which is cheaper, take out 2 USB ports (leaving two), take out the SD Slot, take out the A/V out port, take out the sensor bar in the Game Pad, make Game Pad screen smaller, reduced the CPU/GPU in size, use less RAM chips, and if they really want to cut costs they drop Wii BC which forces people to buy eShop re-releases and cuts drive costs and DVD licensing fees.
Well according to npd numbers xbox sales are up 62% from this time last year but thats jus official numbers sure the n4g trolls know alot more than NPD
Pot, kettle, black...i'm sure you know how it goes.
That's 62% jump is because the xbox one was 500$ last year and a year later you can get one for 350$. Big price difference.
Then why was the Xbox One down in sales in March 2015 compared to March 2014? It's been $350 for months now.
Last year Microsoft released the highly anticipated titanfall on march 11th, which pushed a lot of units. This year there was no big release hence the lower sales in march 2015.
Xbox One already had a price drop. I doubt they'd give it another so soon
said everyone after the $399 non-Kinect bundle came out, said everyone after the temporary $349 cut.....
If xbox gets anymore price cuts, then you might as well just include it in a Mcdonalds kids meal, because that is what it will become worth at.
Right, because a single $50 price cut over 18 months makes it worthless. I wonder what your reaction would be if the price had dropped $200 in its first 10 months like a certain console last generation.
The Wii U yeah, the other two no.
Given the much higher entry price of the other two, especially including subscription fees over the long term just to play online, I'd say you've got that backwards.
And that subscription for both also grants you games, games you won't be paying for out of pocket. Something Nintendo doesn't do. Meaning you're paying for those titles while PS+ and Xbox Live Gold may be giving them away free. Not to mention neither is actually required to play games or use your system meaning you DON'T have to buy it if you don't wish. You get extra if you do though, no different than an accessory or peripheral making it a non-necessity unlike the way you're playing it off. See the circle coming?
@ Theunder " Not to mention neither is actually required to play games " Are you even aware of how many third party games rely upon online content for a huge chunk of their replay value? Like it or not, it pretty much IS a requirement, if you want to get the most out of a huge amount of titles. And as to the free games, none of them make up for locking online multi behind a paywall. It was not a necessary move, it should not have been done, end of debate. And most of the games offered through it, are games I've either already played or own, or games I do not care about. I was signed up to it, for a while, not long after I got my PS3. It didn't even take me half a year to realize I had no use for it. So, no. I don't see the circle, because I don't view the free games as an acceptable excuse for locking away multiplayer that both PC and Wii U get for free. And it does not change that the other two, compared to the Wii U, are expensive. Especially if you go for a refurbished Wii U, which is only $199 off Nintendo's site. Oh, and to those who are gonna argue about it being "used"? Refurbished is not the same thing. Refurbished means they spent money to fix whatever might be wrong with it, if anything at all, so it is literally as good as a new system. It's not like Game Stop, where they would take it in, plop it in a box and label it used after making sure it at least turns on.
I would agree the Wii U definitely needs a price drop, however for the PS4 and Xbox One, not at all. For PS4, its current momentum is still too high to drop the price. They are making money hand over fist worldwide, with each PS4 sell continuously adding profit to their bottomline, not including software sales. Another Xbox One price drop would not to be feasible for Microsoft at the moment. With each system sold they are losing money however, they are able to leverage the breakeven level with software sales. At some point you want to enter the black on system sales alone.
If Xbone gets another price drip, M$ will literally be selling a loss. People forget, profit is far more important than just number output. After all, what's the point in selling a shit ton, if you're gaining nothing. Then all you're doing is losing more, the more you sell. That's PS4 has yet to receive one. The PS4 is selling great while Sony basks in the profit. Once the demand starts to drop, then we'll see a price cut there.
I think each console could deal out a good price cut. I actually kind of expect the XBox One and PS4 to lower in price soon, well, I hope so at least.
Given how expensive gaming has become, I feel it would be an intensely consumer-friendly move for any of them to drop their price, even if they're selling so well, or making so much profit, that they don't actually need to. Oh, but just an FYI; Unless they've sold out a third time, Nintendo's website should have a lot of refurbished Deluxe Wii U's in stock for $199. So if there's anyone out there that >was NOT just lying through their teeth< when they said they'd get one if it were between $199 and $250, there's your most immediate solution, if there's still any in stock.
100 bucks that's it take or leave its time to speed up these price drops
Wii U should be 249.99
When I saw it for that price on sale when Mario Kart 8 released I bought it that very day. I love the system. Hopefully $249 or even $199 is coming for the USA this holiday or sooner. I would love for Wii U to get to at least 25 million units sold. I honestly think price is the major problem because Nintendo never sold a home system at $300 or more ever.
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