Final Fantasy XV: Pushing the formula beyond the limit break

Most importantly it seems to be throwing out the Final Fantasy rulebook, developing an entirely new kind of experience. The wide-reaching alterations have resulted in a game that is shrouded in even more mystery and anticipation than even this most venerable of series usually enjoys. Failure to provide something truly special will likely trigger a serious bout of disappointment throughout a fanbase that views the franchise in incredibly high esteem.

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kalkano985d ago

You don't realize it, but you're talking about the death of Final Fantasy.

wheresmymonkey984d ago

Not really. the series has gone through so many changes since the original waaay back when that, its probably a good thing they're making some major changes againl It keeps the series interesting.

kalkano984d ago

I don't see copying every other AAA game as "interesting".

Godmars290984d ago

No character class specialization. No weapon specialization. No strategic or tactical specialization. A demo was released where magic didn't factor into combat.

And yes, a summons requiring that you die does not count.

NoctisPendragon984d ago (Edited 984d ago )


Magic is important in the game but would have been useless in the demo anyway since the weather system does affect it heavily (changes its power and shape) .

You have weapon specialization , in fact you have a lot of weapon kinds (axe, spear , swords , gun-lances etc ) and you can lvl those weapons and keep the same weapon the whole game if you want .

You can use the gambit system and even a ground gambit system (asking your team to surround big enemies or to separate multiple enemies ) .
For the class specialization Noctis is everything but not at the same time .
The summon system is only and only for the demo , it was to leave a big impression from the demo ( Tabata wanted to do like the Leviathan Summon in the FF VII demo ) .

Once again everything missing (50% of the gameplay) in the demo might/will be important in the final game , almost every Final Fantasy Demo i did play had something major missing (for instance the FF XIII demo didn't have the Paradigm Swift wich is more than 50% of the final game gameplay ) .

Godmars290984d ago

Thing is, as someone who's played the demo, you have no point of reference to say how important or unimportant magic is because you have no examples to work with, because magic was not an element of the demo.

Its rule twenty-two, only in reverse.

Magic in a combat situation is represented through facing enemies who aren't effected by physical attacks. Who heal when hit by certain spells, or take extra damage from others. Because real-time has become a thing in FF and RPGs in general such just isn't done anymore.

As for weapons, what if they're swords, spears, axes, arrows or bullets if something like range isn't a consideration? With FFX and Wakka's "Beach Ball of Doom" what a weapon actually was became meaningless. That Noctis calls up several, while an element of FF15's world, only reenforces that mentality.

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Irishguy95984d ago

Nah its just evolved into something better

DiscoKid984d ago

I wouldn't say "better". More like it caters more to today's generation of gaming.

Godmars290984d ago

Something showier you mean. Shallow.

NoctisPendragon984d ago

There is always something "Final" about every Final Fantasy .

ShockUltraslash984d ago

It was already killed by XIII.

XV is going to reinvent the franchise.
Or at least make a brave attempt.

We hope it succeeds, and evidence is on our side, just look up the Youtube impressions on the Duacse demo. Almost ALL the Youtubers have a positive impression on the game including personal and professional channels.

kalkano984d ago

You're talking about people who played the demo. They were interested to begin with. The problem this game has, is it's pushing away many of the older fans. It's also pulling in new fans. But, all signs point to more fans leaving, than joining.

ShockUltraslash984d ago

Sorry, you are wrong.
The comments that are negative about the demo have way less thumbs up than the ones that praise the demo.

Adrian_v01984d ago


judging by the ratio of agrees:disagrees you have I would say you're wrong.

NoctisPendragon984d ago


No i have seen YouTubers and journalists who were taunting and trashing FF XV before then played teh demo and said it was promissing or even more .

kalkano984d ago


This site is definitely anti-turn-based.


A few people changing their tune doesn't mean much. Why were they taunting and trashing it to begin with? There are a LOT of things going against FFXV, not just my reason (that it's not turn-based).

jambola982d ago

i think a few people changing their minds after playing the demo means more than any amount hating it who haven't played it

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Eiyuuou984d ago

You don't realize it, but you're talking about the potential rebirth of Final Fantasy.

Kumomeme984d ago

this guy always talk about death of final fantasy

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Kurisu984d ago

The demo was good and I'm looking forward to playing the updated version with changes made from player feedback.

kayoss984d ago

I really miss the cinematic of Summons. They were one of the highlights in final fantasy games. It would be cool if they've added the Knights of the Round Summon in Final fantasy 15 as fan service.

Tales RPG addict984d ago

While FFXV has potential i'm going to be cautiously optimistic atm. I still wanna get FFXV regardless,but i'm more stoked about "Xenoblade Chronicles X."

Xenoblade Chronicles is awesome, its sad how FF13 was such a massive waste of potential.I know i played the game and beat it.

Solcis_skylus984d ago

have you noticed similarities between the heartless of kingdom hearts and the goblins of ffxv?goblins might be special even in the story,they also have a special battle theme..their behaviour is similar to heartless,they pop out of the grond in the cave the same way the heartless do

KryptoniteTail984d ago

That rulebook they threw out? That was Final Fantasy.

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