Did you know that Microsoft has the ability to turn Xbox Ones into bricks? Some people are about to find out the hard way very soon - Kotaku
To be fair. These guys will have accepted Terms and Conditions that forbid them from sharing the game so it's heartless, but they were most likely warned.
Yeah that's what they get, nobody likes a leaker it just ruins the surprise. E3 coming up they're better not be any leakers.
I agree. Sue The Bastards. They signed contracts so must pay the price... now please, give us more gaming leaks :)
It's totally fair. I game tested plants vs zombies garden warfare a year and a half before it was announced and I had to sign a non disclosure agreement to do it. As much as I wanted to say the rumours were true and it was a blast to play when people brought rumours about it out I couldn't say a word.
The part that concerns me is Microsoft can brick youre system from the comfort of their office this is troubling and no one sees where this is heading
It takes a special kind of fanboy to be accepting of a company remotely bricking hardware. By all means, sue them and ban them from XBL for breaking disclosure, but brick hardware remotely? Absolutely not okay. I don't care how long it's for, no company should be testing the waters for remote hardware bricking in any situation, unless it's a Microsoft employee on a Microsoft owned console. We need to end the monster that is giant corporations turning everything into "services" so that they have 100% control over their use, like hardware and software (that is used entirely on their own computer, except for the arbitrarily virtual key that allows it to start). You can ban us from your online services or sue us if we break a signed non-disclosure or steal keys from a company (like those "geniuses" that "hacked" the ps3), but when we buy hardware or software for local use, it belongs to us; not the corporation.
"no company should be testing the waters for remote hardware bricking in any situation." It also takes a special type of fanboy to truly not understand the situation that is going on here. MS isn't bricking these Xbox's for sh**s and giggles these people broke an arrangement. There not testing waters as you put it, these people broke a signed agreement and leaked info to the public, so now they are banned from MS services. By the way by "bricking" this means that these offenders cannot access Xbox Live, but they can still play games just not online. "We need to end the monster..." Any suggestions or are you just going to bark about it? "..but when we buy hardware or software for local use, it belongs to us; not the corporation." And you can still use it locally just not online because you are using THEIR provided services that you intentionally agreed to when you clicked the Agreed button before going online.
Like Gangsta_Red said, bricking means stripping features from the user. That includes online access which is standard practice for serious offenders. I doubt MS would ever go as far as bricking the entire system, but honestly I wouldn't blame them for that if they do, either.
Um, no, @magician, bricking means BRICKING. As in, it's a USELESS BRICK. There is no such thing as a partial bricking. Unless you like being an oxymoron.
@Conzul Chill out. MS didn't brick their boxes, they restricted them from features. Did you read their NDA? Yeah, I didn't think so. Whatever the punishment was, I am sure is explicitly described in the NdA, which breaking an NDA and the terminology used in one isn't "signing a widdle piece of paper,". It's a serious agreement written by the best attorneys that MS can afford, and ANY leak, especially one as big as what Gears is for MS, will come with hefty consequences. And in all reality, I wouldn't be surprised to read about a lawsuit in the coming days. Before you comment next time, read the f***ing article and make an actual contribution to the discussion with the rest of the adults in the room.
In which case, "bricking" is not at all the term that this article should have used.
To be fair, To be fair To be fair To be fair. But To be fair To be fair To be fair, To be fair To be fair To be fair. Why the hell did you start your sentence with "To be fair?" you had the first comment, nothing was unfair yet! Het a new phrase both of you.
Why would Microsoft allow a regular console owner to play the game before an official announcement, not very bright to me.
If they broke the T's & C's then they are liable.
thank u Microsoft for confirmation of the games legitimacy. seems I am getting xbox now.
To be fair, this story is bullshit.
They signed a NDA, they get paid as well for doing betas through that company so they deserve everything they get
Phil Spencer and Bungie weren't not happy last year when the MCC got leaked. And nobody got punished for it. Before people start to demonize MS I understand they turned a new leaf and are way more consumer and gamer friendly. But that doesn't mean they'll condone leaks of any kind. Disciplinary action should happen. These are multi million dollar games here that they are saving for the grand stage. And its no different for Sony or Nintendo. MS is under NDA in all of first party and third partry not even Phil Spencer can talk about Gears or any game for that matter unless he clears it with 1st party PR first. The punishment is temporarily bricking their X1. TEMPORARILY. Not a even full ban MS is being to nice this time around.
I don't disagree with this punishment at all. Everyone who works at game studios or testing facilities know that they are bound to NDA's. It's their own fault.
Sorry I mean't 343. But its there own fault regardless.
I can't blame MS for protecting their property. The ability to brick a console is one epic ban hammer though!
While I do agree they should be punished and they're lucky they're not getting sued as well. "Temporarily" is debatable. People have gotten temporary bans 1 month to several years. Hell, one person got banned till the year 31/12/9,999 ( http://i.kinja-img.com/gawk... - hilarious reason though) and another got banned till the year 10,000 AD ( http://www.bit-tech.net/new... )
I really don't agree with either. I just don't think any company should have a right to brick something you paid for. I also feel that people should accept the terms of their participation.
Then you may want to never click the I AGREE button when creating an xbox live or PS Plys account. It clearly states that you can have something like this happen if you violate their guidelines. Kind of how the orriginal xbox would get you banned from xbox live if you had a modded system loaded with stolen games. Would you rather they had been sued for a million dollars? Because that could have happened. They literally stole from MS. They are lucky they arent in jail. The worst that has happened is they lost a $400 system temporarily. Pretty easy pubishment IMHO.
I don't think one person who tests a game for an hour has the right to release the first look at a game to the world. The developers make a game, they are the ones putting hundreds of hours of work into building something for the consumer, then one consumer comes along and ruins the news. Imagine you are set to announce a game in a few weeks, that you have been working on for 3 years. Do you want some selfish kid to show it off to the public before you have the chance? Something you have put hundreds of hours, your blood, sweat and tears into, and all of the sudden that magic and passion you feel when you are soon to announce it is just gone out the window. It pisses me off that people have the nerve to just ruin it for devs. Without developers we wouldn't have any games. How about we show them some respect rather than complaining and picking them apart all the time.
@responses... Then revoke the license on the demo or ban the member from participation... but don't brick the whole damn system.
@Eonjay "I really don't agree with either. I just don't think any company should have a right to brick something you paid for." -OK lets forget about what monetary impact this may have but as KarmaV12 said the real crime is that this is something that a large group of people have put hundreds of hours, their blood, sweat and tears into and all it takes is 1 person who you gave the privilege of testing it out and all you asked in return was that he not tell anybody. He gave you his word, you trusted him and now for your kindness your hardwork is exposed to the public before YOU are ready= Despite how dishonest this is on the users part, you think he should get a slap on the wrist while the people who worked hard have to take their valuable time that could be spent focused on the game and now at least spend some of it running damage control, issuing warnings, asking sites to remove content. -IMHO, that type of thinking is a big problem in America today well beyond just videogames. I may be old fashioned but I just wish our laws were tougher and people actually were held accountable for their actions. -What's ironic is the NDA almost certainly says something to the effect that not only can they terminate your use of the console but that the signee is subject to further legal action, thus "bricking" their console is by far the lesser consequence, yet you feel they should not even enforce that measure for someone who willfully broke their promise. smh, got to love America.
Bungie and Halo? What year is it?
Wow, way to teach them a lesson. Sucks when the guy thought he was just harmlessly sending a screenshot to his buddy. Now he's not a tester anymore.
Good, testers who do stupid shit like that don't deserve to test games like this early. The little punk should be grateful it is temporarily bricked IMO. Should of bricked it for life. What he did was a middle finger to the development team.
Let's be real. Ever since gaming has been fully integrated into the internet, and devs can reach out to us as gamers at any time, there have been A LOT of "testers" who think it's all fun and games, just because they are video games. It's the same reason being the best gamer in your circle doesn't mean you'd make a good programmer. There are rules to follow, simple rules. It's your prerogative to follow them or not, but there will be consequences either way. I think the question is whether or not there was any language in the NDA about bricking systems, and whether or not that is fair, when they could have just revoked other rights.
"Sucks when the guy thought he was just harmlessly sending a screenshot to his buddy"... Yeah they are always the poor innocent victim. If you sign an NDA there are ramifications to breaking it and I am not for a moment convinced he "harmlessly" shared the screenshots. It was clear as day the leakers were doing their best to "hide" their identity.
I was in no way defending him. I just thought it was funny that he probably thought he was cool by showing his friend that picture.. Clearly he needs new friends.. ;)
Good. These people contionually breaking NDA's ruin it for the rest of the responsible VMC users(Am one of them ;). MS is being kind. VMC however isn't being they these guys might get legal action which is what they agreed to when they signed the NDA.
I agree. Pretty crazy they can remotely brick your console.
For the reason they did it, it's totally justified.
I agree. It's still interesting to me that they have the ability to do that remotely.
Any system that has online capabilities can do it. Pretty sure all the systems have this feature.
@gangsta_red They do(Nintendo, Sony, MS), phones soon, etc - http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
Hey Sony was experimenting with it by screwing up patches every now and again lol
Sucks but I mean the cat was out of the bag anyways of a Gears ONE *ugh* remaster. Oh well, people have to respect the terms and conditions when they sign up for these types of things. But I have to say besides Fallout 4 and Gears there hasn't been too many surprising bomb like leaks. It just seems like last year around this time we knew everything that was coming for E3.
I'm thinking, due to the 'ultimate edition' tag, it may be all the maps and guns from 1-3, with the original single player, all remastered.
I really hope so. If we can get all the multiplayer maps, plus all the modes, balance, weapons, characters and enemies not to mention the improvements (meatshield, chainsaw battles, etc, etc) from 1-3 then I wouldn't mind this particular re-master.
@immorals I was thinking the exact same thing.
Gears is a new series for me, so I might buy it (might). I was really hoping for a complete collection like Halo MCC, but anything like that would seem too good to be true in the age of the Definitive Edition. I'll have to see what this remaster actually offers besides better graphics before I decide to buy it or not.
Don't jynx it dude, E3 is still a month away! Plenty of time for leaks unfortunately
Damn! Getting punished for someone else actions.
Break a code of conduct of any sort, and people expect a goddamn trip to the Taj Mahal? Entitlement cancer.
Mate thats taking it a bit far,Cancer is no joke bud
No sympathy for these guys. there's a NDA for a reason.
Well it is there own fault then.
they decided to share just so they could get a few extra followers
Dang that's $200-$300 gone down the drain....
@Travis its temporay buddy but still over the top.
@hiredhelp With that mentality everyone would do it because there would be no reprucussions. What would stop anyone from leaking tightly guarded secrets in the future.
If they break the rules then put them on black list for future testing ect.. No need to brick any hardware thats been sold to a consumer non.
Maybe they have the game on the console
So you want to give them a slap on the wrist for breaking a LEGAL BINDING contract? NDAs arent a guideline, they are a contract. If they just kicked them out of the program, how is that a real deterrant to anyone doing it in the future?
Fyi_ an NDA stands for non disclosure agreement. We sign these at my job all the time. They are legally binding documents. The only reason ms can do this is because it is most likely in the verbiage.
Punish everyone , they must pay!!
They use their own consoles for the testing. The NDA likely detailed what would happen if those consoles were used to leak anything. When you use your personal property for a crime, it can now be confiscated or impounded. This is just Microsoft trying to protect their assets and following up on a legal contract.
Brick that shit, trying to mess up e3
That's nothing compare to the paper work they receive in the mail!
If you think Sony doesn't have the ability to do this as well then you are just a fool. Welcome to the world of online.
They deserve to be disciplined and MS should take action. With that said, learning that they can BRICK your console is really messed up! They have no right to brick something you've bought! Get them out of these testing programs, even sue them but this kind of reach is proper messed up!
Yeah they do. You own the system, but they own the software. What they're really bricking is the software on it.
If i break and NDA at my job i would get fired and taken to court. They got off lightly. Plus, for Gods sake... Why would anyone on either side of the console war condone a leak like this. They are stealing the thunder from any announcement MS had plans for. Dont get me wrong, im sure people will still get excited but not as much.
MS should definitely pursue legal action, if you are under an NDA then you bound by contract to not leak or distribute the contents of your testing. In a year when MS needs gamers on their side, this is a huge mistake by these guys.
They got what they deserve. People are always trying to spoil Microsoft's announcments.