Konami's CEO Hayakawa Hideki on the future of the company and how Konami thinks that mobile games are the future of gaming. The CEO also states that Mobile will be Konami's main platform.
This September I will be buying my last game from them. 'Salute' -big boss
Well, bye bye Konami as we knew them.
Sega going mobile, konami going mobile, nintendo toying with the idea... place your bets, place your bets on who will make the transition next.
Mobile causing the extinction of AAA. We already see Japanese AAA games developing smaller budget games. Most gamers don't see this but I will not a spend a dime on any of these new small budget titles.
BoyCott ...i never bought , i will never buy digital garbage ...oh Konami(also Sega , Capcom etcetc) if you find so appealing mobile crap gaming look how s Zynga going and other companies with crappy mobile games. i wonder into WTF they will mutate MGS making it mobile and without Kojima By the way Kojima now can definately join a proper dev team like Japan Software of Sony 's which are real artists and still create Games with G capital
@ darthv72 "Sega going mobile, konami going mobile, nintendo toying with the idea.." Nintendo has had their foot in mobile gaming since the gameboy.
i stay away from mobile phone gaming like its the plague. unless its Mobile Gaming as in 3DS or PSVita then its welcome.
How many companies have said that mobile is the future of gaming? How many times have PC and console gaming proven that that's simply not true? Why don't they just admit that mobile isn't the future of gaming, it's just a very cheap way of doing business for them. They want to be lazy, they want to be the perfect example of the Free Market, that being offering as little as possible while making as much as possible.
Nail on the head my friend, couldn't have said it any better.
Maybe the talent is dwindling within the team which is why they are tackling the easier mobile market. To be honest, with Kojima's departure and Pro Evo series falling in popularity, what else is there?
Kojima's departure was driven by Konami's plans, not the other way around. Kagemaza Kozuki's decision to move not only to the mobile market but the E-gambling market, drove this decision. His known dislike of Kojima's time consuming development habits combined with the above led to his removal as an exec and the shuttering of KojiPro. EDIT: I am happy with this. MGS is done. Kojima needed to be unshackled in order to continue to create. Any major company will give him a blank check and total freedom. I just want him to make a game with a character named Snake called Escape From New York.
to some degree... all these companies that proclaim it to be the future are not entirely wrong. they are just going about saying it wrong. Mobility is a convenience and the future is going to be more about convenience. the timing is wrong but the idea is sound. it's been an idea for a long time and the tech has been steadily improving to the point where these companies keep testing the waters. Like 3d and the soon... VR. These ideas will stumble each time until the market is ready and consumers are receptive. until then... let them stumble.
Most mobile games are trash. Free to play is borderline criminal. Let these companies try & fail at mobile. It'll give me time to work on my extensive backlog.
@darth: There are physical limits at what mobility can achieve. There are always new phones coming out with all kinds of supposedly badass specs that put dedicated devices to shame, but the gaming market never migrates there for the simple reason that gamers know what we want. We don't want watered down experiences, games with terrible controls, and obvious limitations. It's not to say that there can't be a time where mobile improves greatly, but all tech improves over time and so too will PC and console gaming. Mobile may be convenient, but it's not as deep as PC or console gaming.
" Sega going mobile, Konami going mobile, Nintendo toying with the idea... place your bets, place your bets on who will make the transition next." I say Square Enix,because they already said that. I think it's funny though most of them being originated in Japan or at least not being a typical Western company.
@DragonKnight while I do in fact see where you are coming from, its just that do you remember what happened to the PDA device and what happened to it as a device when the Phone and it was converged? Despite what many on here want including Me. We are the Minority of the Market Trends. What I am pointing out is in very blunt terms is cold hard Numbers. 1) the Game console market has shrunk while the Mobile market has not only outpaced new PC purchases. But the Mobile Phone is now a Main general Use Compute device. That of course does not mean PC is going anywhere, it just means that an on hand quick access Compute platform is now in a majority of consumers reach at such a low cost of entry that its getting to the "throw away " level of distribution. 2) even at that level, these smatphones hardware wise the chipsets inside along with the performance index/cost and power requirements needed to run advanced 3D Gaming has been able to make such gaming now a reality on low cost of entry for the consumer and developer and publisher. ROI for investment on Mobile far and away is more enticing due to Low investment of not just creative new iP , but existing Port and Publish of legacy IP is now more enticing. 3) the Level in Hard ware inside even Low costing Pay as you go and Low cost Mid Tier Hardware is able to run advanced enough game's that to many general consumer's is more than enough. the fact that a big publisher like Rockstar games GTA : San Andreas can run and run well on a 20.00 Smartphone with such smart phones even having dual core 1.1 to 1.3 GHz, add in an Adreno 305 GPU or Mali 400MP2 with 1GB of system ram. the Phones are able to run what used to be only a PC or Game console game is now on a general Use Compute Device. With its main purpose is being communication! That is what I think many are really over looking, the fact of the matter, is Game consoles are fantastic and all I use them all the time. TThe problem is convergence Like the PDA the mobile market and the console market is going to overlap now but not in a small way. Its in a big way due to like the PC is a General Compute device. Smartphones are also designed along the same lines. The key point is the speed of advancement and the cost in adoption is low enough for Mobile that its now a market that has expanded and increased in such a short PD. Of time that its growing faster as a market than even PC and consoles are. Many publishers like Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft along with all the large 3rd party see that the market today is not like it was 10 to 15 years ago, what was the main way of game distribution and what is the main platform software driver yesterday may not be the main driver today. Mobile like it or not is a vary large and healthy software driver.
Their future is mobile because they can make a TON of money with much less investment than full games for PC or console. In the end, these are companies and their primary goal is to make money. While the saying may not make a whole lot of sense in the US (or maybe even other markets around the world) but it would seem that in Japan, mobile is the way to go.
It will be interesting to see their titles sitting next to "games" people like me and MANY others can churn out in a few days. This is doing wonders for their credibility and it seems to be making sure all of their eggs do fall in one basket. Hopefully they will see the light.
Mobile ain't my future that's for sure.
I'll beat you to it. I don't plan on buying even MGSV.
I'm kind of feeling the same - and not because Konami seem to be messing everything up lately. I remember when MGS3 was coming out I tried to get as much information as possible about the game which at the time for me meant magazines. And when the MGS4 release was approaching and I was away on holiday all I could think was I hope the plane doesn't crash so I can get home and play some MGS! With V and Ground Zeroes, I haven't got anywhere near the same excitement. Which is strange because the gameplay in ground zeroes is a massive improvement - it's like Peacewalker on consoles which is brilliant. Maybe it's because I know the series should have ended at 4 as the perfect send off to the saga. Prolonging it now just does not make sense to me and can only bring the series down in my estimations. Can another MGS game live up to it's predecessors? Imagine how great a 10 year hiatus or so would be and then bam, MGS with The Boss as the main character and a whole new cast and story! Edit: I think I know what has got me so down about the new MGS - the loss of David Hayter. He is Snake (Both solid and naked). I gave Keifer a chance in Ground Zeroes and he was pretty poor, felt like a different character. I am still hoping for a David Hayter appearance as Solid Snake which might get me excited again about the game.
I fell asleep during the MGS4 cutscenes. Literally. I'm not spending $60 for more of the same.
* Mobile is the future of gaming for companies who want to go bankrupt or rout of business within the next 5 years. * 500 + games a day are introduced to the mobile market. Your competition grows by 500 daily. NO smart business man invests into a market like that for the long term. * Imagine if tomorrow, another 500 car companies started. It would effect the big 3 a bit, but more than that, 490 of those 500 car companies would be out of business within a year. * The big mobile last hurrah is upon us. They are trying to make one big last push before it becomes apparent that Mobile games aren't being played by people who like real games. * Mobile gaming is the future for keeping people occupied while standing in line at the store. That and only that. * The sad thing is, the CEO's make these decisions, and we the gamer have to suffer with them ruining things that other people created. People at that level aren't creative. They don't bring anything to the video games world, they just take away and ruin. * Seems like a few executives in this industry have the opposite of the Midas touch.
i get where you are going but your analogy is slight off. think of the big 3 in auto making like the big 3 in mobility. IOS, Android and Windows Mobile. all 3 of which would embrace the entry of 500+ new games / apps a day. That would be like the big 3 auto makers coming up with 500+ new models of cars a day. not all will be hits but the ones that are go on to sell to others and they tell their friends who tell their friends and so on and so on. if anything, these smaller indie developers are the ones who are in fear that their territory is being imposed on by the bigger names of Sega, Konami and Square as well as EA and soon even Nintendo who are dipping their toes in mobility. for their games to be a hit, they have to be cheap and appealing. Maybe even free to play...?
Even individuals are leery of investing too much time/money in mobile development. It was a noble attempt and some people even bought into it. I'm sure you remember those ridiculous articles about "mobiles" becoming more powerful than desktops/consoles also. The ones that assumed that desktops/consoles wouldn't also become more powerful and totally ignored laws of physics, manufacturing constrains, logic, space limitations, etc. Just wanted to highlight another ridiculous aspect of the whole thing.
Forgo The Phantom Pain or buy it used. Koji isn't getting a dime from your gratuity.
Well now we know why they went to shit so quick,
Rest in Peace, Konami.
Lay in torment, Konami.
Go to bed..
Well looks like ill be getting suikoden vi....mobile edition
Ruined by terrible touch screen controls. *sigh*
The least they could do is give me an hd collection of 2,3 and 5
They're going to find out how scattered the mobile market really is,lol,Bon Voyage.
The mobile market is HUGE in Japan, but this just goes to show how shortsighted Konami really is. Mobile may be big in Japan, but it is not worldwide. Home consoles still sit firmly as the primary gaming medium/platform in North American and European markets. Konami will quickly wither and die if they go pure mobile. It may be low cost of development, but it is also for the most part a low return unless you get a lucky mobile hit (aka Angry Birds). Have fun fighting mobile clones Konami.
I am a gamer 1st and I can tell you consoles are not front and center for gaming in the US not even PC is at this point , Take a look at the main TV adverts for gaming being run not only in prime time, but during all hours of the day. Stp and take a look at the mall and when you grab a bite to eat at a fast food place. Despite what we want it to be, the reality is such. The smartphone as a platform has and is just as large if not outright larger driver in entertainment software as the game consoles are. While like many here am a gamer, I do see how this market has been disrupted and how its changed. This happened before with PDA's and it is indeed happening with game consoles. Does that mean game consoles go away? No, it just means the market as we knew it to be is and has changed. When candy crush TV adverts are ran more than dedicated game console adverts you know there is a change at hand, this is not just candy crush also 8 years ago, did you ever really see any mobile software getting 30 sec adver time let alone at the freaking Superbowl? Last years Superbowl is a prime example! Game software distribution on Consoles and PC is now not the only large platform for to drive software on. Many seem to think mobile is or cannot do real console quality gaming and is just cheap not in depth gaming as is for console or PC quality gaming. But what if the big publisher and developers do. Just that many are already starting to do just that the fact again Rockstar Games already has put out GTA: San Andreas, GTA: vice city, GTA:III yes older games, but infact they run well and with Bluetooth game pad like a Moga Pro or a wired USB connected to a OTG cable to micro USB the experience is not really anything diff. From a classic game console experience. With HDMI out on phones that have it is pretty much the exact same and in some cases even increased resolution over the console version. The truth is , Its not a matter of "if" at this point is its only a matter of when.
@joeorc Take into account the home console sales in each region and also from each generation. In North America and Europe mobile has done nothing to dent the home console market. It has either grown or stayed steady between each subsequent generation. In Japan however there has been a MAJOR dip in the rate of home console sales versus mobile consoles and cellular. This is because of culture. Japanese spend LOTS of time in and on public transportation (or any transportation) and less time at home in front of a console - this is the reason for the decline in one platform and the rise in the other. Also, yes mobile gaming is BIG for a FEW major games that have been lucky to grab lots of people (Angry Birds, Clash of Clans, Candy Crush, Game of War, and many other FaceBook-esk game clones), but for every one of those big successful mobile titles there are hundreds more (mostly clones) that get lost and buried and never make ANY sort of profit (much less hope to break even). I cannot stress that last part enough. Think about how many THOUSANDS of knock offs, clones, and otherwise there are on the Google Play store and iOS AppStore that barely make anything to stay relevant. The mobile market is a gamble. Sometimes you get lucky with a mobile title and it becomes popular with the "in" crowd and the money you rake in goes into advertising to only further drive the game's viral status. The problem is everything fades; even Angry Birds with all its success is getting pushed out by newer fresher web game knock offs. In the end, due to western culture as it is now, home consoles (and PC) are here to stay. The [western] home console market is far more stable and predictable in comparison to the mobile market which can change fads at the drop of a hat.
@GameSpawn Comp. In Mobile is quite extensive, but many times the software does indeed make a profit, even on clones! What you may also be overlooking is the fact that if the majority of developers and Publishers may in fact see a viability in releasing bigger and more well known IP on the App store to gain more income. there are more than just a few or small number of games making money on app stores, if the case of being so few and far between than no one would be doing them. Taking into account console sales in each region OK let's do that, do you look at the life time total sell through numbers of each console is less than 200 million in a 10 year time! Just this year alone the combined number of mobile smartphone being purchased will be over 300+ million! World wide what it takes game consoles in 10 years to reach! Think about this before games on phones were snake lil side scrolling games..now you are running games that game consoles and PC's were only able to run. This is not about killing off the concept or idea of a console. No what this is about is the change in the market because of disruption and convergence. This is quite front and center When 3DS is selling so much but yet. No grand theft auto San Andreas or vice city same with the PSVita but both of those games are on Apple iOS and Google Play! The concept of consoles vs mobile does not make really any sense because its like console vs PC the smartphone is a general use compute device like the PC is. The console and vice versa will not kill off each other and the same goes for console and mobile. But that does not mean that Mobile is not overtaking the console market. Which you may not agree with, but it is because of sheer numbers and adoption rates. The mobile market cannot be ignored now and many publishers are not going to.
I like mobile games and I want them to improve but you are right. Its all over the place. I want consoles to go toward the hybrid route. I seenm to be less interested this gen. I'll pick them up when they are cheaper because right now I feel that I'm better of buying a laptop, $50-100 shield or steam TV thing, build a mini compact rig. But on topic I want them to go the hybrid route. Like a console that powerful and portable while able to connect to TV and multiple controllers ( my shield tablet does thus love play gtasa, then classic emulator games, than streaming high end games even when I'm not home) but I want it more powerful. Or like the console splits in two piece like look at ps4. Imagine it had a dock with powerful spec and half of the top half snap off and have something that look like the Vite but a little bigger and have its own powerful GPU. Playing scaled down games on the go and if you want quick or addictive mobile games you can to
The sad part is that they won't even sell their IP'S, we will have to see them runned to the ground by mobile pay-to-win versions of everything we once hold dear.
Thats the worst part:/ it will pain me to see Konami butcher the Metal Gear franchise...
Whats funny, is doing this will lower the value of the IP and make it harder to sell at a high price once they do fail
You can shove mobile games up your colective @sses Konami and one little thing, after MGS can you please, sell your IPs to someone that actually is gonna so something with them? Please?
Time Paradox. This wasn't supposed to happen!
That's a future I'll not be a part of. When the gaming industry become mobile entirely, I'll find another hobby.
It will free up time to clear out my backlog! Lord knows I have days worth of games to play.
I didn't knew games being more mobile was a bad thing. I use to hate dragging my ps3, giant Xbox, n64 around. I think your talking about how mobile games suck. I was just playing darksiders 2 in the library the other day. I also loved the vita when I had it. I think people forget handheld is basically a mobile platform. Devs just better games for it and it have built in controllers. You can buy controllers for tables and mobile phones you know. A lot of these phone and tablet out preform these handhelds too bad most of their games is shovelware tho. I do get what y'all mean. It hard finding a good game
replace future with death. There ya go.
Nice knowing you, don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out.
I expect mobile gaming might go through a 1983-style crash. If that happens it will be funny to watch these companies come crawling back
And that's the final nail in the coffin.
I don't get their thought process. How does 20M+ PS4s and 10M+ XB1s (last I heard) sold signify that mainstream gaming is dying? To me it sounds like taking the easy route rather than trying to make better games. If they would have kept going with PT they would have had a huge win on their hands. Foolish IMO, and a waste of some good IPs. Hopefully they sell them off so those series are not doomed into obscurity in the mobile market.
Do they think that Mobile Gamers are somehow different than PC/console gamers or gamers in general? Like for some reason we are going to forget what you did to the best video game creator ever, Hideo Kojima, and continue to support you?
Well ill be sure to down vote every mobile game they release.
They seem to want to go bankrupt.
Am I the only one who hates mobile gaming? Maybe I'm just getting old and,love a controller and tv but I just don't see the appeal
They're all trash the good ones are old console ports
They really believe people prefer mobile games over aaa titles? Ahaha. Man, can't wait to see the look on their faces when the mobile market crashes in a ditch because of all the crapfest it has to offer.
As I stated above I am not a fan of,mobile gaming however I will add this. The other day I checked out the game "game of war" on the android store...I read some reviews and couldn't believe my eyes...people were talking about how awesome the game was and how they had spent hundreds and even some people thousands of dollars on that f2p game.I couldn't believe people are willing to spend that kind of money on a f2p game...those people are killing the 60 dollar AAA titles.
Cana-dough! The south park episode, as self-serving aa it was, had some really excellent points about free to play games. Their revenue comes from .15% of players. Less than 2 in 1000 people spend money on it. And the people that do spend $100s ... you'll be seeing Freemium Addicts Anonymous meetings in 2-3 years! It's sickening.
Mobile gaming sucks! MGS V will be my last konami game.
im sure Crapcom will follow the same path
"and how Konami thinks" it seems this is where Konami's recent problem lies.
I think it can be the future simply because right now I think there are more causal gamers than real gamers, by saying that I mean candy crush will out sell any game out there not that it is a better game just it will sell more copies. At $1 a game if it sells a billion around the world that is more money than you would get making a new MGS game. Also kids now a days are growing up on tablets and stuff where someone like me grew up playing games on Atari Nintendo and Sega now when these kids grow up they will say my first game was played on ipad or x android tablet. And people who do have consoles rather save a few bucks and buy used not saying anything wrong with it but know that it is taking away from the developers. Only thing I can think of that can fix this is 1. Destroy gamestop lol 2. Make games cheaper so people are more likely to buy it brand new. Might think that is counter productive but what is better if 1 million people buy your game at $30 or $40 or 250,000 people buy your game new and 750,000 buy your game used it will not be those numbers all the time but stuff like the Order I bought it brand new but all my friends got it used so out of I would say 10 people only one bought it new if it was $30 all 10 would have gotten it new. Sorry for the long ass comment buy it's just my 2 cents. I do think if anything VR will take over console games because I see VR games being shorter than the order or a online game at $15 to $40 because people may not play VR for 5 to 8 hours straight but we will see.
I called it! http://n4g.com/news/1725386... I said Konami would soon follow and here we are. Whenever a Japanese company fails in the console space they always say "mobile is the future" and drop the mic.