The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has been leaked on torrent sites and CD Projekt is letting PC pirates know that the day-1 patch for the game will be available for all as a separate download.
It's a shame that CD Projekt lose out on quite a large number of sales due to software piracy, and despite that they are still giving out the patch for anyone who holds a copy.
On the plus side, despite the fact everyone knew this was coming out on the DRM-free GOG, the Witcher 3 has over 1 million preorders. I'm pretty sure a lot of people who download free games would have paid for Witcher 3. As it is a game worth paying for.
I feel like if you don't think a game is worth paying for, then maybe you shouldn't be playing it. Good on CD for that patch move. Hopefully give the people stealing it an iota of shame. Sorry for that, I just cannot stand entitled people when I work hard for my money to buy things for myself and family. Anyway, SO excited to play this game on my platform of choice, and I know we all are.
@Fullmetal That would work, if those people actually had a form of conscience. Most just take whatever they can get from others and still manage to smile in the mirror each day with not a spark of self reflection. Dont get me wrong, I'm not completely innocent either, I download movie torrents quite often. But thats a one of a time thing, you dont go spending $25 on a new bluray that you'll probably watch once, maybe twice if good. With games its different though, most devs work day and night and have nowhere near the personal income of Hollywood stars
@omni Don't try to justify stealing movies and then say it's not ok for games. You do realize that there is a lot of work that goes in to those too. Have you ever watched the credits after a movie there are a lot of people working hard on those too not just the "stars". Own up to it. I don't care what you do but realize what you are doing.
Well none of you are technically correct since piracy is legally copyright infringement and not theft. I can guarantee that most people who "steal" movies or games, as you put it, don't feel ashamed or guilty at all because in their minds they're not stealing anything. What CDprojekt is appealing to isn't so much their guilty conscience but to make pirates feel inclined to reward the developers, kinda like a tip in a sense. This is what Valve tries to do. By adding a lot of free content, huge discounts, and great service. When you go to a restaurant, and you're given a fabulous meal with amazing service, you naturally feel the urge to want to tip them something extra. This is the smart business model unlike DRM which only ever effects legitimate buyers.
@ Highlife Fair enough. Though the main reason I deem pirating movies to be less serious than pirating games, is because for a single movie you get maybe 1-2 hours of entertainment, and especially newer movies can be quite pricy to buy. (unless you're subscribed to a service like netflix maybe) Games in that sense give you alot more in return, making them more worth a full purchase. Thats how I currently feel about it, though for my favourite movie series or trilogies I like to get a bluray collection [Edit] And yes i'm aware it is still piracy (we'll just use that term for now Eamon)
More devs simply need to put anti-piracy trolling in games. Take a page from Ape when they made Earthbound. Let the player play the whole game until they get to the final boss, then the game crashes and erases their save. The butt hurt would be glorious.
well damn, fckn pirates.
its a shame it has come down to this, i know this is not the first time it happens when a developer writes on a pirate site.It just makes me cringe
CDPR will get a lot of sales from us console gamers, so i'm sure they'll make a pretty penny
@Omni I deem pirating movies to be worse than any other form of piracy. It is incredibly easy to view a movie, whether it be at the cinema, buying the physical release, or renting it via physical or stream media. TV Shows is the only thing I tolerate when it comes to piracy, since most first world countries are so incredibly behind the times when it comes to TV Shows from the US. Most countries take months to get the latest episodes and charge obscene amounts of money for them. This deserves piracy. Movies do not.
While piracy is bad and it's always good to support a developer who makes a game you enjoy and has good business practices, I don't get why people think pirates lack a conscience. IMO piracy is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to serious crimes and no where close to stealing real stuff and stealing real stuff is far from being anything close to serious crimes like rape and murder. Two crimes that makes you lack a conscience if you commit them at all. I won't hate you if I know you're a pirate, but I will shake my head in disapproval.
"It's a shame that CD Projekt lose out on quite a large number of sales due to software piracy" Well, the fact is most people who pirate the game wouldn't have bought it in the first place. Not to mention a huge portion of pirates are basically kids, kids whose parents are no way going to buy them that many games. Even so, it's not to say that the sales lost wouldn't be a significant number, so you do make a point.
I do not agree with you. There are alot of people that would buy the game if they had not een illegal option. This is not a multiplayer game, so piracy is very seducing for them. Especiallt when it came out couple days before the release. I think this has an affect for some people who now dont buy the game because they are playin it right now. dont dorget that witcher 2 was pirated 4.5 million times and bought 1 million.
@Lev1903 How do you know Witcher 2 was pirated 4.5 million times? Because the publisher told you so? How many people pirated the game and then bought it afterwards? No answer? If Witcher 2 wasn't a success Witcher 3 wouldn't exist. If someone pirates a game that never intended to buy it in the first place. Is that a lost sale or one that never existed in the first place? I've preordered the game and expansions packs so I'm not defending piracy but piracy numbers from publishers always have a hidden agenda no matter who the publisher is.
http://www.gamespot.com/art... Even it was 1 million times instead of 4.5 million its stil a huge amount of money that the developrs miss out on it. And if the witcher wasnt a great game then you wouldnt see a third entry right now.
@Seafort Yeah, what a terrible agenda those publishers have, wanting to be paid for the work they bankrolled. Capitalist scum, the lot of them. They should do it just for the art man....stop selling out guys.
@Seafort "If someone pirates a game that never intended to buy it in the first place. Is that a lost sale or one that never existed in the first place?" Uuuuh...yea...that would still be considered a lost sale.
First and foremost this article is misleading. The leaked version is in no case playable since important files are missing. This is simply the incomplete pre-load version.
Exactly. I just preloaded them game last night via GOG.com and I still have to download a final file the day of release to activate the game.
If you are going to pirate the game, you wouldn't have bought it anyway. Anyway piracy is a well-known risk on PC. It's NEVER going away so CD has likely calculated that the game will be profitable despite piracy. We are in an age where buying a game digitally through Steam or any other Storefront is more convenient/easier than piracy will ever be. If this doesn't deter pirates then nothing will. There is a bigger issue here. @FullmetalRoyale It's not up to you to decided what people "deserve to be playing" or not. Not everyone has the money to buy $60 games, this goes double for kids and teenagers.
If you can get it for free then why is somebody that steals game going to buy it anyways? I't would be cause they can't get it for free, is the reason they would have to buy it. Try walking into a store and take a shirt off the shelf and walk out with it and as they stop you say "No it's ok, i wasn't going to buy it anyways". My point is, if you can't afford it then you can't have it plain and simple.
CDproject say the game is $32 which is a great price if you live in the US but the UK version is £41 which equates to $65 :(. The game is a digital copy so why the huge difference? If the publishers want the game to sell well at least do the decent thing and not have such discrepancy between countries.
"If you are going to pirate the game, you wouldn't have bought it anyway." I 100% disagree with that. I 200+ games on Steam, and I've pirated quite a few games that I had zero intention on buying that I actually did end up purchasing right after because it was worth the money.There's too many cash grab games nowadays and with demos being almost nonexistent, I'm not about to drop $60 on something that's purge garbage. I recent example for me would be Project Cars. I pirated the game planning on just playing single player here and there and be done with it. Instead, the game was so good that I purchased it (at full price) and even got my cousin to purchase it to play with me. So had I not pirated the game in the first place, there's 2 sales they would have never have. While I agree that probably most people that pirate games most likely won't buy it. I can't agree that everyone is like that. Because that's just not the case.
@utalkin2me Going into a store and taking a shirt without paying is theft not piracy, going into the store and cloning the shirt then using that shirt would be piracy. No one lost anything.
@iTechHeads I'm sorry but if you don't feel a game is worth paying a cent for you don't deserve to play it. If you think kids and teenagers should feel entitled to pirate the game because money is harder to come by then there's something wrong with you. The game will be on sale within a month of release anyway.
It might decrease if we start treating pirates like scum.
Piracy whining is so moot. It's been proven to barely affect sales.
No wonder devs treat PC gamers like actual peasants.
The people who buy games will still buy it no matter they get pirated copy or not. People who don't buy games will stick to their way. And it doesn't really matter in a case of such game. The player who want this game, almost 99% of them will buy it either on steam or gog. IMO piracy can be problem for some games but can't affect GTA V and Witcher 3 kind of games considering a huge PC community like steam.
I dont necessarily agree with it not affecting the Witcher . The serie is a pillar of pc gaming , but unlike gta and other behemots didnt receive in kind the sales to back up that status . Not with the first two games heavily pirated too , despite their tremendous support and goodwill . Obviously , part of it is that splenty people didnt necessarily pirate it , just that they werent interested in purchasing it or felt they couldnt run it . Which is ok and their decision . But yeah some people are going to pirate it no matter what
And this time like most other times with CDRED Projekt , they can't pretend to be justice warriors fending off drms , bad dlcs and bad behaviors ...
Well i'm not justifying myself, i'm still stealing it by downloading it early. But I bought it too. And will continue to buy whatever the company creates Actually thinking about it...pirating the Witcher 2 is what convinced me to go PC gaming. I bought the games after that. Bought the Witcher 1 too.
This by itself will keep consoles and physical media alive for a while. I hear that margins are lower on PC sometimes because of torrent sites. The lost revenue for developers is sky high.
Steam gained 25 million active users in less than a year, so 125 million+ active and continues to grow + all the other digital distributors that are getting bigger too like GoG. Revenue is only growing - not shrinking - while some games don't sell as well on the PC compared to consoles that doesn't mean the PC version isn't profitable, The Witcher 1 & 2 were pirated heavily but it still sold 6 million copies in 2013, The Witcher 2 360 version only makes up a small chunk of those sales. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Physical media is on it way out for good. Developers are putting less and less work into packaging so that we won't miss it when they finally pull the plug. In fact, creating physical media actually cost a developer more than the money they loose from pirate copies of their games.
Nope, discs are here to stay. MAny countries like india have shitty net and devs offer games at heavily discounted rates in these countries(coz they are poor as well) Long story short, I pre ordered witcher 3 box for 23ish usd. It would take me 12 days to download it. 12days X 24 hours that is. And there is NO steam india
@Priestwithgun: Then No game for you. Come back 1 year...
You make it sound as if consoles are on life support. Far from it. They are at the forefront of the video game industry. Anyway piracy is possible on consoles as well. It will be possible on PS4/XBO one day too but I think that piracy will be too convoluted and complicated for it to ever be a big issue for Sony or Microsoft.
I know a lot of would-be pirates that when The Witcher 2 came out, even they suggested people go out and support CDPR by actually paying for the game. Even the pirates respect them. Will they lose sales due to this? Sure. However, the strong support and overwhelming positive response this game has had prior to release has secured many many sales already. Good for them! If you were thinking about pirating this game, I implore you support CDPR and buy The Witcher 3.
i will test it on my PC. you have my word CDPR if it runs good i will buy a copy form GoG.
I firmly believe that a lot of pirating is done by people that either have bought the game and are impatient, or would buy the game if it was out. Maybe CDPR should do a solid for us 1 million preorders and release it now.
I'm sure I remember reading when the witcher 2 hit the 1 million sold milestone cdpr said they knew the game had illegally been downloaded 4 million times. Or have I made that up? Can't be bothered to look on Google
In the case of CDPR I think most people whom pirate have great respect for them as a developer, browsing simple torrents of the game you can see a lot of comments preaching people to purchase the game and support CDPR. I don't think piracy is such a big of an issue, if this industry wasn't profitable it wouldn't have existed for so long and thrived, people pay, it's the poor people, or the young people whom mainly go out and pirate, and they are the minority. It's great CDPR decided to go DRM-Free after the last game fiasco, people will pirate the game anyway, and can't really be prosecuted properly, it's an never ending cycle and CDPR made an example of themselves in that regard by acknowledging reality and supporting real paying customers. Kudos to them, and I can't wait to play as Geralt again :).
If you like a game .. support by paying for your copy.
If people care to pirate your game, it means it's good enough. I don't fear for the dev at all.
Seriously, one of the best developers out there and giving their fanbase exactly what they ask for, no DRM, free DLC, doing everything for the fans. Then you leak and pirate their game, embarrassed to be a gamer right now. Support CDPR they are a dying breed idiots.
I have faith in CD Project Red and have the collectors edition pre ordered got it for $200 AUD, cant wait to pick up that bad boy on launch day.
You can get the damn game on G2A.com for only like $30 bucks...no way I would pirate this game - knowing how good it will be (well is) how could you? So, I agree with a lot of people that if someone pirates a game of this caliber, it was probably not going to be a sale in the first place, or, may push them to buy it anyway because its just that good.
Man don't pirate the game,these guys put their soul into this game we as gamers need to support them. Do we need more AAA games to lose support?
I think I am missing something here...literally all copies on torrent sites right now are unplayable. The crack comes out launch day
Nope you're not missing anything...and this isn't the first article like this. Nice avatar btw! PERSONA4 4LIFE
DRM free stuff should not be released like this at all, it takes no skill to release these games as there is no DRM to circumvent. Really really sad imo.
CDPR will more than make up for these pirates with PS4 sales. I am sure a ton of the master race pirated the witcher and witcher 2, atleast now they have xbox one and ps4 to boost sales
If the first Witcher sold badly on PC there wouldn't have been a Witcher 2 and 3 developed. Console gamers are lucky to get The Witcher 3 as the series has been one of the best games on PC for the last few years. If we had a multi billion dollar company behind the PC platform it would have stayed a PC exclusive and would have never gone to consoles. Witcher 2 didn't do that well on Xbox360 when it launched so why do you think it will do well on the new consoles when one has never had a Witcher game on their platform before? It'll be like playing Mass Effect 3 without playing 1 & 2 before it on PS4. The Witcher is a PC series with PC developers behind it and yet console gamers think it's designed just for them.
you cant help this tho theres pirates in every from of media we consume but good on CDPR tho hopefully they like it to pay for it..
Sweet I'll go download this. I have it preordered on ps4 though. Yes thats right I would prefer to play this on my ps4. Sometimes its just nicer getting absorbed into a game while relaxing in the couch in front of a 55" tv. And no im not going to drag my massive desktop out to the loungeroom to play on the tv. Although i did play wolfenstein the old blood on my pc. Depnds on the game
Yeah, thats what I miss about consoles....the lounge factor. Although I do play on a laptop in bed!
typical pc gamers pirating everything
it just shows how much of a class act they are. I play my games on pc and I just pre orderd the game those guys really worked there ass off on this game!
No wonder gaming on PC is so cheap as the elitists always claim, because they steal everything they play.
LOL! If we stole everything you wouldn't be waiting to play The Witcher 3 on Tuesday as it wouldn't exist. So much ignorance from console gamers. You buy into the stereotypes that all PC gamers are pirates from the AAA publishers but never think for yourselves. PC gamers buy just as much games as console gamers do but over a longer period of time. PC sales is the long game, consoles is the very short game.
I can't bash piracy because I have songs,movies,books, etc to sit and look down on a group because this particular time I choose to pay for something would be idiotic and contradictory. I'll just say support what you can if you have it to spend support the content creator so they can keep creating great content.
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