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Porn and video game addiction are leading to 'masculinity crisis'

A leading psychologist has warned that young men are facing a crisis of masculinity due to excessive use of video games and pornography.

Psychologist and professor emeritus at Stanford University Phillip Zimbardo has made the warnings, which form a major part of his latest book, Man (Dis)Connected.

In an interview on the BBC World Service's Weekend programme, Zimbardo spoke about the results of his study, an in-depth look into the lives of 20,000 young men and their relationships with video games and pornography.

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DEEBO928d ago

Man this one of the best post I read in a long time we'll the comments rather then article.

Too bad most will not bother with this topic.

OB1Biker927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

I don't know why some people would even remotely link porn with videogames

breakpad927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

it has absolute right ..with free internet porn men lost their masculinity and social behaviour toward women and women consider team sex with more men nearly canon ...

RosweeSon927d ago

Lot of wankers on call of Duty ;)

Lord_Sloth927d ago

Because they need something to blame and nobody really cares about blaming Porn, but videogames are a valued target for the issues of today so tossing it into the mix equals instant attention.

Anthotis927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

A lot of men with issues are finding escape and solace in games, because reality sucks so hard.

Part of the reason life isn't great for men is because of feminism which makes women unbearable, which is where porn becomes useful.

Games and porn aren't the issue here, though. It's not games and porn that are responsible for the majority of young American men avoiding marriage and behaving like children.

Feminism is the problem, as well as all the other SJW BS that is used to assault (mostly white)men and warp their masculine behavior.

Unsurprisingly, the effect feminism has on men doesn't make things any better for women either.

ravinash927d ago

I totally disagree with the whole Feminism arguments.
people tend to forget that the arguments on line here and other forums are disjointed from the real world.

Yeah, there are Feminists out there, but they will only be sharing these ideas in forums such as this.
If you get out in the real world, you will find that these people are actually few and far between. Ask round your female friends and you will find views that differ as much as they do with your male friends.

As for the argument about spending 15 hours playing games and watching porn... of course that's not healthy. I don't need to be a psychologist to see that.

Anything you do as extreme without moderation will course issues for you.
But usually this such behaviour is a symptom rather than the cause.

Darrius Cole927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

@Antotis - I was with you until you said "mostly white". Feminism effects all races, and excessive feminism creates the same distort view of family in everybody.

@Ravinash - Feminism arguments are more than just what people say on forums. They have gotten into government policy and into academics and even religious circles. Having gotten firmly into circles where policy get decided, it shapes policy in ways that has real consequences in peoples lives.

Dee_91927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

I can't lie, when I was like 15,16 I was doing this, watching, porn and playing video games back to back, it was my average day, but when I got a job, and actual responsibilities, all of that fun went right out the window lol.I never really sat down and monitored my psych, but I think I seemed like a pretty normal teen.Obsessed with sex and loved playing games..

@OB1Biker
I take it you didn't read the article?

"Zimbardo spoke about the results of his study, an in-depth look into the lives of 20,000 young men and their relationships with video games and pornography."

"Now, with freely available pornography, which is unique in history, they are combining playing video games, and as a break, watching on average, two hours of pornography a week."

That's the link.Now, i'm not sure if its a viable cause for the " issues" they say young men face.It seems like they did a research then just assumed this is what causes that.. I'm pretty sure he goes more into depth during the study then he did in this interview, but with this little info, it seem like he's reaching.

@Anthotis

"Part of the reason life isn't great for men is because of feminism which makes women unbearable, which is where porn becomes useful."

.. what the hell did I just read.. no amount of feminazism can make women unbearable for me... I would bone Anita Sarkesian in a heartbeat if the situation arose.. Social issues don't really affect my personal life.. Until it affects my personal life.

ravens52927d ago

I think everyone is reaching a little. Put some porn out with some normal size penisis. I'm sure after these "shy", not confident teens view someone "like" them being intimate with a female they'll realize they have nothing to fear. You kno how many male are scared of being rejected because of their size? That's the problem they think girlsll laugh or reject them so if u can just jerk off why get ur feelings hurt? Standards now and days are not even standard...

Kryptonite42O926d ago

Rachel_Alucard

That sums it up so perfectly. I need to save that image.

rainslacker926d ago

@breakpad

That's the same argument I've been hearing for over 25 years since porn became easily available in the store. It was BS then, it's BS now. A man's views on women, or a woman's views on men, or just people's views on other people in general are learned at home, through media in general, and by their personal interactions with others.

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KwietStorm927d ago

I'm too deep in either to turn back now anyway. In it to win it.

lunatic0001927d ago

True that..I'm too deep in the rabbits hole to turn back haha

Letthewookiewin927d ago

But I only watch porn for about 35 seconds....

gedapeleda927d ago

yeah man,
I just don't give a fuck anymore.
I guess women will always have to blame us, it's never their fault :D

Perjoss927d ago

"I just don't give a f*** anymore."

And there is nothing wrong with this at all, as soon as you realize that giving a f*** is actually kind of pointless you will start to enjoy life so much more.

Not all, but most women like to mess you around in 1 way or another, and the ones that do not intentionally do it have no idea what they really want, so 1 minute they are perfectly happy, and the next minute who the f*** knows what.

Is it worth the hassle? maybe it is, but I'm just too busy having a ton of fun with my games and porn. I love women (when they are not being insane) but the problem is I just love my games a bit more.

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CaptainObvious878927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

Perhaps if society wasn't constantly demonising men's sexuality, perhaps if media outlets called out feminists when they mention 'sick male fantasies', or some variation of, instead of blindly and happily regurgitate the opinions of sexists feminist, men would be more open to their female partners instead of feeling ashamed of their perfectly natural and healthy urges trying to desperately satisfy their need for intimacy and acceptance with virtual naked women. And maybe they also wouldn't be escaping to virtual worlds way they feel a sense of accomplishment and respect.

Maybe instead of once again pointing at men and saying you're the problem do something about it, they should be looking at the actual core problem. But of course, if that means actually holding women accountable and actually having the audacity to suggest that maybe they might be a part of the cause of the problem, than that's never going to happen in my life time.

TacoTaru927d ago

Don't forget that saying "hello" to a woman who doesn't feel like hearing it that day can be considered sexual harassment and can really get you in trouble.

roarmonster927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

you guys are pathetic. Women are the reason guys watch excess porn and play video games? Look, I love video games, it's a huge hobby of mine, but I also do other things; I know how to have fun in other facets of my life, I don't demonize women, and the few I find entitled I just dont deal with. You know what consequently follows on occasion? Sex, with a real person.

You guys acting like you do this because girls are a problem is laughable, you do it because it is easier and you are probably awkward/uncomfortable to some degree or have have intimacy problems. If a girl is in to you, they have no problem with you expressing your "natural and healthy" urges, you are just afraid of rejection and are blaming feminazis, a minority of the group, for this.

I would agree that it is annoying when some girls mistake common courtesy for some sort of affection, but that is them just reflecting what they are used to onto you. With the amount of people I know who always have an ulterior motive anytime a girl is cute, and the amount of less dogish guys that think a girl is into them anytime they are nice.....cant blame them

It's sad guys, not a good look. If you really are cool with the porn/videogame vortex it might cause you some personal problems but fine, who cares. If you are just butthurt though, stop playing victim

Tetsujin927d ago

@Taco

That is 99% of why I refuse to talk to women outside "hello." I get sick of women who can't tell the difference between being nice and actually trying to get to know them. At my college there's countless times where women would swear someone was trying to "get down their pants" when all they wanted was someone of the opposite gender to talk to. Yet they're the same ones who complain because "all the good guys are taken/gay."

OT

I don't see video games/porn as the issue, I see society as the biggest problem. It's to the point where so many people (both genders) try to find some "outlet" to blame for lack of something (in this case marriage, relationships, etc) and use it as a scapegoat. I watch porn and play video games, but you know what? I also go out, I'm in college, I actually socialize with people who fit into my social circle, and I'm also actively involved in traveling for tournaments.

If it wasn't for video games I wouldn't be in college, learned a few things school didn't teach me about the real world, made friends, and I'd be a memory. Porn is my escape, which also there's certain things I'm into that a lot of women would swear "I need help" (nothing illegal or nasty, just something some wouldn't approve of while others wouldn't care).

CaptainObvious878926d ago

@roar

Was wondering when a big, strong "alpha male" was going to stroll onto the scene and tell us what's what.

Just for the record, I'm very happily married and don't need to do porn, but I don't judge anyone that does. The demonising of men in the media and society is so obvious that I still easily see it, even though this porn debate doesn't apply to me.

If you can't see how feminised society has become. If you can't see 'rape culture' screamed around every corner, especially in colleges, scaring some guys to even say hello to girls because they're terrified of being called a rapist, then you're blind or stupid or both.

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Blasphemy927d ago

i havent read the article but i dont think video games and porn are leading to a problem. they are the solution to a problem. if you cant get you frills out of the real world then you go to your computer or video games to do that for you. i dont see anything wrong with it. i think without video games and porn there would be alot more suicides.

what would he rather people be addicted to porn and video games or alcohol and drugs?

the real problem is finding someone that is into you and likes doing the same things you like to do. or finding someone who doesnt have a ton of baggage.

DEEBO927d ago

Well I can see how it can become a problem but that's anything in life.

But nothing beats a real flesh and blood woman even if they can be nuts at times.

Everyone needs to just try to look at themselves in the mirror and see how they can improve their lives and stop trying to judge and change someone else.

reallyNow927d ago

Video games and porn doesn't solve anything. It simply pushes the problem further down the line. I use video games as a form of escapism. Never has doing 100 laps in GT helped solve anything. It always just diverts my attention from my crippling anxiety. When I'm playing games, I'm not me. I'm whatever I'm playing. I can forget I'm me. And its glorious.

ion666927d ago

Really ? are you sure it wasn't the hipster craze listening to Mumford & sons expressing their feeling to each other. Or rappers getting manicures and having more shoes than girls to match their outfit. Or is that everything that a guy likes is ridiculed by these feminist for having a sexual thought.

pcz927d ago

lol so first videogames turn people into mass murderers, and now they will turn you into a transvestite ?

i think you could argue porn can lead to 'sexual identity crisis' as they put it, but trying to link video games with sexual identity is absurd.

far fetched rubbish.

if anything is to blame for a masculinity crisis (if there even is one,) is the state/governments reluctance to promote or reinforce any type of moral standard. now they just liberate any and everything.

i mean, in the past we would be a country with strong religious principles, so we had ideas about sexual identity and gender roles. but in the modern time we shun these principles as bigoted, the government dont want to promote christian morals because they dont want to offend other religious groups or lose votes.

so what we have is the breakdown of these values, and as a result, we have a society where people are morally/spiritually lost and confused. so yes, you get a 'sexual identity crisis' among other things...

blaming videogames is bizarre.

thricetold927d ago

@Anthotis

" Mostly white " ? Seriously? Firstly I'll never understand why Americans would use colors to identify themselves, proper term is Caucasian. White implies purity and history has shown the world that doesn't apply to Caucasians. Or shall we ask the native Americans? Or the Spaniards? Or the Moors? Shall I continue?

No feminism affects ALL men, regardless of race or creed or nationality, not just mostly one race. Of all the races you think the most privileged race in the world is being targeted?

Been a while since I've been to the states, but I'm guessing we got ourselves a real live cowboy, a true Texan in our midst.

threefootwang927d ago

I'm surprised this is even an issue today. Between working full time and working out everyday I literally average 8-10 hours of gaming for the whole week if I'm lucky. Too many important things going on to put gaming as priority.

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WeAreLegion927d ago

Porn is a problem that people don't consider a problem. So, it's hard to fix.

porkChop927d ago

And how exactly is porn a problem? Men and women alike watch porn for personal enjoyment. How is that a problem?

Crimzon927d ago

I read an interesting article once on how pornography had warped the sex drive of some men, which was openly discussed with those affected. One of the problems discussed was how pornography was making it increasingly difficult for these guys to find arousal and satisfaction from traditional/vanilla sex. It was actually a fascinating read and presented in a mature, level-headed fashion. It also made some interesting points of how people have access to pornography at much younger ages now thanks to the internet, and how the pornography itself is also much more extreme.

HammadTheBeast927d ago

"Men and women alike watch porn for personal enjoyment. How is that a problem? "

That's not the right point to be making here. Men and women alike also do heroin for personal enjoyment. That is a problem. I don't know whether it was phrasing or your actual point but it's kind of vague.

Antifan927d ago

It was proven a while back that porn actually decreases sexual activity in men, and gives rise to performance issues (like not being able to have a orgasm) unless they're getting it from porn. Sex ad class was very fun lol.

shloobmm3927d ago

My wife and I watch porn together, it gets her in the mood and I'm always in the mood. Match made in heaven. Plus she learns all kinds of new things. I don't see the problem.

ndrliang1927d ago

There is a great TED talk called the great porn experiment. While it does not go into a ton of detail (as it is 15 minutes long), it tells how porn actually rewires men's brains. It is an interesting watch and quite informative

WeAreLegion927d ago

There's more to it than that. It's purely psychological. It's unearned gratification. I get that you like porn. Almost everyone does. But there are issues you don't know about. That's the problem. People don't know it's bad for them.

johndoe11211927d ago

It is a problem and people who don't take the time to research or people who want to pretend there is no negative effects to it because they enjoy it and want to keep indulging guilt free will not understand how it affects them.

I'm not gonna say it affects everyone the same, I'm no researcher, but enough research has been done into it to affirm that a great many people have been affected negatively by watching a lot of porn. There have even been cases where men were not able to perform unless they were watching it at the same time.

There are varying levels in which people have been affected but the fact remains that many people are.

Ocsta927d ago

When they meet actual women and have actual sex it pales in comparison to the porn supermodels willing to do absolutely freaking anything with a smile.

methegreatone927d ago

People do lots of things for enjoyment, but at what cost ?

Any addiction is bad, but some things are simply more addictive.which is why drugs like cocaine are banned.

Porn is not cocaine, but its something that is incredibly addictive.

You really think it's not a problem when we give young people the ability to constantly stimulate their sex drives over and over again, while watching porn, which more often than not warps sex to be more satisfying.
For some people, it might not cause much harm.

For so many others ? You give a young person the ability to lie to his/her body, tricking it into thinking it's having sex. That's incredibly powerful. Chances are it's going to become an addiction !

It's an addiction, and an addiction has an effect on their sex drive, on their relationships with spouses, on their self perception, dignity, social standing. Not to mention it wastes a lot of time. Heck, it causes ED too - I know from experience, as do many otehrs.

It's nothing more than selfish self pleasure. I use the word 'selfish' here because of the cost at which it often comes. In the US, it's more accepted now.

Think about other countries. Porn is more or less destroying the lives of many people. A powerful, addiction that is at odds with everything else ? Culture, values, relationships, respect and social standing.

Which is more important ?

Everywhere it's come up, porn has always been, in some way or the other, at odds with values, society, respect, relationships etc etc. And for what ? Nothing more than self pleasure, which, because it can easily become an addiction, is probably personal causing issues anyway.

I_AM_ CANADIAN_1989927d ago

some of you commenters need to stop generalizing guys and speak for yourself. Sexuality is mental and based off individuals not groups I've watched porn and masterbated since I was 9 ( even tho I didn't know I was ) and being with any women skilled or not skilled is a million times better than porn. Actually extremely disgusted at all this generalization. Blaming a medium for a mental problem or weakness is bs. If porn can easily lower your sex drive or attraction to women than you have bigger issue than porn addiction. For healthy minded people porn is a masterbation aid Aswell as a back up for when girls aren't around. Society really needs to stop blaming mental issues on everything but your mental state.

carcarias927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

@HammadTheBeast

Whilst I respect your right to your opinion, I have to say I find it astounding that you can compare watching adult entertainment showing performers engaging in sex (sex, fantasy and arousal being some of the most natural things in life), with taking potentially fatal drugs.

If you're gonna make such extreme comparisons and say that what people may like is bad because 'hey, people like heroin too but they shouldn't do it', then we might as well attack alcohol, cigarettes, violent movies&TV, provocative music and god knows what else.

I'm pretty sure if heroin users were as numerous as porn watchers, then the entire population of the planet would be in trouble. Instead, millions upon millions have enjoyed porn regularly for decades (video, magazines etc) but guess what, society hasn't collapsed.

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JohnathanACE927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

I agree with Legion, pornography is defiantly a problem and just like drugs or alcohol people can get addicted and have it eat away at there lives. A lot of people don't even realize they have a porn addiction.

@Crimzon

That's another problem with porn, it keeps pushing the bar becoming more extreme and degenerate as people get board with the less extreme old stuff.

johndoe11211927d ago

Exactly. The more extreme it gets is the further some people will want to go to be satisfied. It also affects marriages when husbands expect their wives to perform certain unreasonable acts that they see in porn. A lot of these guys who watch porn don't even realize that a lot of these actresses don't even enjoy some of the things they do, they just do it for the money.

There are a lot of interviews out there by former porn actresses that tell you the horror stories of being in the porn industry. It creates unrealistic expectations in many people.

shloobmm3927d ago

You are taking a handful of peoples weird perversions and lumping everyone into that category. I've been watching for 20 plus years and i never find myself hunting for skat eating golden shower taking woman has whole head shoved up vagina. If you have a problem with it then that is a weakness on your behalf. Dont lump the rest of us on because you like weird sh*t. I bet the person who did this study watches the craziest porn of all.

romancer927d ago

"defiantly" a problem? definitely a problem with spelling

rainslacker926d ago (Edited 926d ago )

Seems the problem is addiction, not porn. This could be said for any addiction, and not all of the focuses of addiction are bad.

By your reasoning, we could say gaming is bad, because there are some people that are addicted to it. But no one in this thread seems to actually want to address the video games being talked about in this article, instead they want to shift the blame to porn, because they're too afraid to just say that the things this guy says is just an extension of the same BS that people have tried to demonize porn for the past few decades.

I think the guy in the article is using extremely broad generalizations to make a point. You can't take a very small percentage within sample data and use it to make conclusions. Hundreds of millions of people watch porn on a daily basis, another hundred million play games...if not more. Yet I haven't seen this masculinity crisis that is being talked about.

What I do see is a lot of emasculating media though, which seems to go out of it's way to make men look incompetent, foolish, and only interested in things that are considered immature, which implies that men are nothing more than children who are afraid of women like a child may act all guilty when caught by their mother doing something wrong.

Looking at my last two paragraphs, what is the more likely reason for this masculinity crisis? Is it porn, where men are more often than not the dominant figure, or is the latter, where men are portrayed as always wrong, and women are always right.

To me, it doesn't take a genius, or a psychological study to figure out where the real problem lies.

People's personal problems that may arise from porn or video games, is not the same thing as a sweeping masculinity crisis among the masses.

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KwietStorm927d ago

Well so far you've said it's a problem and it's bad. Do you want to at least explain why and how it's bad for people, without generalizing of course.

HakatoX927d ago

What about the conditions of a stale marriage being rekindled with the help of porn?

Without it, I dont think I would have learned how to make a woman have an orgasm within minutes.

Sexual gratification is something that people in long term relationships have a problem with.
Relationships can become just as stagnant without the aids of porn or making traditional sex boring.

I believe the sexual stigma within American society is greatly increased due to the lack of openess about sex in general.

If a parent talks not of sex, they will learn in other ways.

mixelon927d ago

It can be a problem, but in moderation it can be fine too. A lot of people aren't very good at moderation. :D

iceman06927d ago

ABUSE of porn is the problem. There are probably many people, men and women, who view porn and have no problem with maintaining a normal life. However, when it is abused to the point of addiction, it becomes a problem.

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Germany7927d ago

What? Lot of games and porn here and i'm an alpha male, i don't even shave myself.

XiMasterChief927d ago

Shave yourself my hairy grim lord.

Germany7927d ago

I remember when being hairy was sexy.

shloobmm3927d ago

I shaved myself once and my wife hated it. She wants me in full gorilla form at all times and i like to give her what she wants. Sometimes i throw her on my shoulder and carry her to the top of local skyscrapers.

One_Eyed_Wizard927d ago

No true alpha male ever felt the need to say they were alpha.

SockeyBoy927d ago

Video games make me want to have super powers. Porn makes me want to have a relationship so I can make love. I couldn't care about the masculine side of things.

Donnywho927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

While I was reading this article I had wished I was playing games.