A video which compares various scenes from Turn 10's Forza Motorsport 5 and Slightly Mad Studios' Project CARS. A direct feed HD download is available to accompany the usual compressed Youtube video.
Project CARS looks better.
I would hope project cars looks better considering Forza 5 was a launch game back in 2013. A more accurate comparison will be Forza 6 and project cars as they are both out in 2015.
I personally pefer Forza 5 look and gameplay, pCARS feels waaay too exaggerated and "physics" seem to be lacking proper response like ignoring physical grip just to give you some pre-set amount of time to react, that's fakeish. When it comes to simulators, graphics are secondary. I still enjoy Race Drivin' more than Project CARS.
Hay, do you really think for one second that Forza is more realistic than Project Cars? I think what you think is realism isn't that. I think it's something else.
I'm really struggling to see something that really stands out and justifies making the jump from Forza 5 to Project Cars. I'll certainly grant that the sound is better, and the off-track environment is better... but that's about it... I haven't personally given Project Cars a go yet, but something about the physics just seems a little off to me - can someone with hands-on experience with both games confirm or deny that?
@reallynow Considering the fact that real race car drivers play forza and run the laps in the same way they would in a real car and in the same times i would say yeah thats realistic.
@reallyNow: Well, I agree. If we take into consideration that pCARS is more realistic than Forza then I'm sure as hell it's not the realism I think of.
@hay I know exactly what you mean, it's the developers of Shift so you'll kind of get use to it easy if you enjoyed their games. Personally I find it a lil' annoying but overall driving is exceptional.
those cardboard crowds get me everytime LOL!
hay- If you've ever driven an actual race car on a track, you'd understand that Project Cars is incredibly realistic. I've got about 30 hours behind the wheel of a Radical SR3 and the game is spot on. People who have never been in such a vehicle don't really understand how unforgiving they can be when pushing it's limits. Every single preconceived notion I had about driving the SR3 prior to my first lap turned out to be wrong and made me realize how little I understood about driving. The first day was a humbling experience to say the least. @nicksetzer1 Autovista = Photo-Mode = Looks nothing like actual gameplay. I still can't get over how many people try and pass off photo-mode type shots as being representative of the actual game. Example: @GUTZnPAPERCUTZ Stop trying to pass off AutoVista specs as actual gameplay. There is no way in hell the Xbone is going to produce graphics even close to approaching the PC version of Project Cars. It just can't be done with 1.31 tflops no matter the optimization, API, Secret Sauce, Cloud Power, or any other nonsense. IN order to play Project Cars maxed out at 1080p/60, you need about 4.0 tflops which is over 3x the power of the Xbone's GPU.
Here's my take from the video: In the showroom, Forza looks incredible. Forza win. On the track where it matters, project cars. Track detail, project cars has better detail. But objects off in the distance (stands) look pretty comparable. Engine sound, project cars. While actually racing: check out 4:15 on the video. While project cars does mostly look better while racing, what's up with all the tearing and the ground arrows popping up through the car? If that isn't patched, Forza is arguably better. If patched, then PC is the winner. All in all, Forza is phenomenal, never mind the fact that it's almost 2 years old. But project cars has got the edge. @ANDREW: Stop... Just stop....
@AndrewLB: No, actually I haven't, but I have some experience in driving under difficult mountaneous conditions where grip is a fraction of that on the road, therefore maybe I prefer to appreciate the suspension system and more scrupulous take on the torque simulation a bit more. Forgiveness in Project CARS is so much counterintuitive when comparing to real life situations where you sometimes have so little time to react it hurts my brain while I play this game.
@think I agree...come back this fall for comparison when The New Forza Tech Engine is revealed for Forza 6 and then make judgement for whom's best racing sim for 2015.
Project Cars looks brighter. As if the FM5 is very overcast. In fact...it looks like its going to rain in the FM5 vids with darker cloud coverage. P.C. has more breaks in the clouds thus creating a more brighter tone. Both look very nice for their respected games.
Fm5 looks overcast because it is, it's Silverstone Circuit in England. If you've played the game each track represents the region's weather very well, too bad it isn't dynamic. I dont' think everyone is watching the same vid as I am. Fm5 has better draw distance, textures and great "scale" everything looking proper in size. Also, towards the end it revealed it's a PS4 version. ;D EDIT: also exceptional anisotropic filtering, great fidelity even with mediocre AA and upscaled resolutions
Lighting and shaders are superior in pCARS by far. I hope Forza 6 improves a lot in those areas as with the weather system.
NOPE Everything from Car interior being more detailed in F5, more track detail, more environment detail, better show room, F5 has an avg of 2,000,000 poly count per car vs 500,000 in PC. Better physics, WAYYYY better AI, better collision hit system and not jittery like PC, etc. Who ever says PC won any of these categories is either anti forza or is blind! Plus Forza 5 runs at 1080p and a flawlessly NEVER dipping below 60fps! PC has Weather while forza does not, and it's more of a sim than Forza, that is really the only thing I see better. Forza 6 and GT7 will wipe the floor with this game! Anyone who disagrees, needs to man up and explain why ;)
@sign_out Here is a thread full of forza 5 car pics not in auto vista. Way better then that screenshot you posted. http://www.neogaf.com/forum... EDIT Heres a closeup shot and cockpit http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
@signout not sure magical hat you pulled that gameplay footage from but it looks nothing like that http://www.gamereactor.eu/m... http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-GNDX... http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wVKpL... Don't get me wrong, the environments are no prize, but that photo you posted is an absolute farce. Forza has looked better than that since forza 3.
@ nicksetzer1 That "magical hat" he pulled those screenshots from is called Direct Feed. If you ever played the game, you'd know it actually looks that good. Your links, on the other hand, are garbage shots obviously taken from some compressed video. I don't know if you're trolling, or just know that little about what you're talking about.
I dont get why everyone thinks project cars looks so neat? between them forza 5 looks better...just look at the grass textures and crowd density. It is not by much but considering it was 2 yrs ago forza 5 was released it is weird! there havent been any remarkable change in graphics for project cars the recent year(s) i guess they started to hold back when they announced that they were releasing for consoles too....
I guess they wanted to make it a little more fair seeing as how driveclub has been kicking errbody's butt in these comparisons. They had to pull out a launch game LOL.
Lets consider a few things. Forza 5 was a launch game in 2013 using old SKUs which reduced 10% GPU performance for Kinect. Project Cars is using the latest SKUs with no hardware limitations. What I see is Project Cars looks better in some ways but I see Forza 5 look better in others. The jump isn't that much greater considering the 2 year difference between games and one was handicap with restrictions. I would be more interested to see how Forza 6 looks compared to Project Cars. Turn Tens track record shows they will continue to impress.
Forza runs 60fps locked 1080p project cars runs sub 40 fps 900p on the same console it SHOULD look better but very chopy
i have both games and the most important thing is game play and project cars wins hands down
I disagree. Forza 5 doesn't look as good as Project Cars but the performance is much better. I think I'd stick with Forza 5 for the smoother experience.
Forza 5 was knocked for a lack of content and Dlc. Critics werent jappu that there were 8 diffwrent versions of prius in the game. Project cars is not realistic. My step brothers dad works at daytona international speedway and i have spent a lot of time driving a lot of nice cars. In project cars every car feels terrible. Never in my life have i lost full control of a car going into a turn at 40mph. Its ridiculous. Even the karts spin out everywhere. Not to mention the cars dont feel attached to the road. Based on everyone i know who got the game and the mountains of complaints is as if the reviewers arent even playing the same damn game.
I have both and forza 5 absolutely curb stomps project cars. It's not even a close comparison
Even though its a comparison vid I found myself asking two questions: 1) whats up with those radical drivers. No way I would lose out to an R8 in one of those. That cars too heavy and lacks the mechanical grip of the radical. Rookie drivers! lol 2) Notice how similar the cornering speeds are in both games? I think thats as good as any indication to me that Pcars and forza both are two games with a sold grasp on G forces and cornering limits. This kind of stuff impresses me. as those speeds are about the same as what you do in real life around silverstone. I know. I actually driven there a few time! Not as fast though. I only have a 1 series coupe but based on my own cars performance around some of those corners thats about right for that R8, given its power weight and 4WD layout. I think the R8 is a bit heavy by modern supercar standards. I would rather own a 911CS or a slighlty used 911GT3 for that kind of money. Its just a more exiting car to drive.
Project Cars does look better. PC has better lighting and track detail car models about the same. What hurts Forza 5 is the lack of AA which affects the clarity of the image in motion. Still very good for launch title that is 2 years old. I am excited for Forza 6 with it's proprietary game engine #forzatech
There is clear evidence Forza 5 track detail is better you can see it when cars are driving around. Graphically PCARs has a edge but F5 was a launch game i think after 18months F6 is going to look better.
The funny thing is that they took an almost 2y old game and compared to a just launched game. They must have thought DC wasn't even worth mentioning. Now when F6 drops let's see all the smart azzes come to some other car games defense. Lol, and how many times did this game get pushed back. If I'm not mistaken F5 was rushed for release on the x1, was supposed to be a 360 game. Project cars gets no love. Keep doing what you do MS.
I dont understand why you jackasses cant just play both, why does it have to be one or the other? Such a silly way to game :-/
They wanted to make an Xbox to Xbox comparison. Driveclub is visually superior and would have to be downgraded to run on Xbox.
Hmmm... hard to say I guess PC wins..
Forza much better and Forza 6 will smash this
Thanks for the argument.
Project cars is a pain to play on PS4 with the ghosting.
Forza 5 WON can't wait Forza 6
Ok, now max out the PC graphics then compare instead of bringing it down to the Xbox level..
That's freaking dumb and wouldn't tell you anything. Of course the PC would look much better.
What's dumb about it? The test is intentionally dumbing down the PC so it makes the PC and Xbox look more equal. It's like making someone fight with one hand tied behind their back.
forza has the better grass but project cars destroys it in everything else
Annnnnnnd you have never played either lol forza absolutely wipes the floor with it in every way
Forza sucks. Get over it! Lol
Forza still holds it's own.
Both look fun but the new Project Cars game does have better graphics and gameplay.
To be fair they should wait for FM6 to make a comparison, not do it with a 18 month old console game. So till FM6 release this just project cars stroking their ego's.
So, are some people saying that a 900p game looks better than a 1080p game? I thought that was impossible. sidenote: I can't tell much difference between the two. Yes, there are differences but none that would make me say one is substantially better looking than the other. Edit: having said that, Project Cars does have some beautiful looking cars.
Rofl-touch of genius with the resolution commentary, had me laughing out loud, thanks. I do think Project Cars looks great with my interest being sparked again. I'm going to wait a month or two though hopefully allowing the most critical patches to release.
If it was project cars in 900p vs project cars in 1080p or forza 5 900p vs forza 5 in 1080p you would have a point. Nice try though and I'm sure the fanboys will give you agrees for it but it's completely different. If you can't see how it is different I don't know how to dumb it down enough for you to understand.
"So, are some people saying that a 900p game looks better than a 1080p game?" Xbox people. Everyone else who isnt biased knows PC is far superior graphically. Also Driveclub looks better than both for the record.
??????????? Isn't this Xbox vs Xbox
Forza 5 looks last gen still. Mainly due to the lighting.
LoL is this a joke give me last gen game have that graphic http://www.gamereactor.eu/m... http://data1.ibtimes.co.in/...
Gran tourismo on the ps3 ? What do I win ?
Forza 5.....wait, wait, uh project CARS, no, uh, forza 5. Dammit i can't ******* decide!
i'll settle it now, project cars destroys forza - next question.
"destroys"...and this coming from an avid XB1 supporter who put lots of time into playing Forza 5?....oh...wait...
they should have used the ps4 version because the 900p shows here sigh.... but even at 900p bar a few more blades of grass project cars really shows how turn 10 need to step up there game.... come on turn 10 show them multi plat devs whos boss
I'll take Forza 5 over the XB1 version of Project Cars. I dont care if Cars has improved visuals (opinion) I refuse to get Cars unless they resolve screen tearing and lock it in at 60fps. I would not even care if Forza 6 dropped to 900p if it ups the graphics ante in other areas as long as that silky smooth framerate is retained.
Isn't f5 almost 2yrs old?
Which one looks better is a matter of taste and opinion but Forza 5 Does not look like that. I think there is some shenanigans going on here.
Turn 10 trademarked forza tech for a reason see yall at E3
Wow i have to give it to Forza 5 hands down and on top of that Forza is almost 2 years old.I cant wait to see Forza 6 at E3 this year now.Still i will be renting Project Cars on the XOne to see how it is on.I't never hurts to have 2 great racers on one console.I't just hurts your wallet
Of course on N4g the Xbox Exclusive can never win. Even if it would be paired against a N64 Game. Just do yourself a favor. Look at an On board of Spa in PCARS and Forza 5 and then tell me Forza doesnt look better. Not to mention the awful Nordschleife in PCars. I was shocked how off it is in Terms of accuracy compared to the Laser scans of GT6 and FM5. Where i would say PCARS has the edge is certainly in the atmosphere because here it is racing with all its bells and whistles. Not just driving. And also the Sound is amazing. i suggest to turn the volume up driving the Sauber C9.
Neither look as good as driveclub and to be fair not as good as GT6 on PS3 when it comes to cars and reflections.. Which makes me super excited for GT7 announcement at E3. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
lol they should put driveclub against project cars since it piss forza in the graphic department
I dont like how they took footage of Forza 5 in gloomy weather and Project Cars was sunny weather. Project Cars tracks are a little wider, I noticed. Forza 5 gameplay looks a little better.