While it's certain that Battlefront won't outsell Black Ops III, the real question is whether or not FPS fans are starting to pull away from CoD. Are they?
Yes it should. Along with every other FPS/TPS shooter coming out around the release of Battlefront and the new Star Wars Movie. Edit: Need an explanation to why? Most people know these big name shooters since they milk their franchises, especially the yearly ones. But everything this holiday will revolve around Star Wars. It's historically happened every single release of their movie. Toys and game sales sky rocket and other movies/games get muffled in the background. That's not to say that other shooters won't be good, or that Star Wars will have the best experience. But it's pretty much common sense to know that the hype of Star Wars will drive this game before it even launches. Especially considering that not everyone can afford to buy multiple games as often as most core gamers, I'd expect a lot of adults to gravitate toward just seeing the name Star Wars Battlefront when buying a game for their kids. Rather than others releasing around the same time. I remember the line for the movies circling around the theatre several times for the midnight release. Remember the lines for call of duty? They're no where where they used to be. With GameStop, Disney and Playstation marketing this, I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of midnight events around the world at the launch of the game. It's all basic marketing at its finest. I'm sure it's easy to tell that I'm strategically optimistic about the game, no blind optimism here. If it doesn't happen. Well then I'll happily eat my words and still enjoy Battlefront(:
It shouldnt really. Black Ops 3 has a campaign and Zombies mode so thats really a huge plus over BF3. BF3 doesnt even have Space Battles and it doesnt have a proper campaign so thats a huge negative for both old school Battlefront fans and gamers in general.
The original battlefront literally had missions similar to what's been announced and had several maps to choose from. Which was great. While I am disappointed about space battles, this battlefront obviously isn't a sequel to the second game. It's definitely an echo of the original Battlefront. And I'll be honest, I am looking forward to COD zombies. I predict that they'll eventually have a game focused on that in the coming years.
Honestly, I am extremely skeptical about battlefront 3. That aside though, I feel like battlefront and COD are different enough that I don't think they will really be directly competing. In this case I would say that is lucky news for battlefront as COD will likely have a massive advantage in terms of content on disc. Honestly the biggest similarity will likely be that they will both overcharge for DLC maps.
zombies is what I hate about COD.. single player is even worse.. online died in COD MW2... why would someone even think that COD is even near Battlefield or battlefront.. COD is like old school 6 vs 6 camper based players, with ultra small maps! search and destroy hardcore is only thing that still deserves some time..
@solidstoner why? because maybe in their mind they like zombies, campaign and the pick up and play mindset. I'm pretty split between the two, but CoDs been looking better than battlefront in terms of features (40 v 40 in a battlefront game isn't battlefront). Zombies is actually the #1 reason I'm interested, but battlefield 4 really got be into that franchise as well. As nicksetzer feels, I too and skeptical though, but of both. Campaign doesn't interest me in battlefront but human augmentation seems interesting enough, online they're apples and oranges, different play styles. Honestly though if it were MW2 remake by infinity ward I would laugh, tell them its the worst game in the franchise next to ghosts (or that garbage they call a sequel, MW3) and tell them to shoot a noob tube at their own feet :D but, just my opinion.
This article answered its own question. "While it's certain that Battlefront won't outsell Black Ops III" If they dont outsell BO3, what does BO3 have to fear?
* Ever FPS has it's own Fan base and it will always be that way.
There is the swing base too, I know more people on the fence about which they will buy than not, and I only know a few people who are either buying one with certainty, skeptical or both (me) or buying both. I wouldn't know sales, but a good friend of mine said BF has been chipping away at CoDs huge sales for a while now, but in guessing hard line set them back a bit.
* Well Battlfront has the advantage in that it will get NON-FPS fans to play this game. There are plenty of Star Wars fans who game but don't play FPS games, that will try this out because it contains 3rd person view + Star Wars. * COD can't compete with that. Casuals & non FPS gamers already know whats up with COD....they already know what it is. IF they aren't already on board with COD, black ops 3 isn't going to be the game to do it. * IF you've never played a Battlefield or Battlefront game, this Star Wars game could be the one to do if for you. The Star Wars hype train is real and it's full steam ahead for the next 5 years. * I'm going to personally be playing Battlefront, but that is because I'm really into Star Wars more than COD, + I couldn't stand COD:AW.
COD as a series has always sold well. Battlefront hasn't done COD numbers when it was relevant. BF doesn't do those numbers either, they are just different games. I'm sorry but it being a FPS doesn't make it comparable like that. Too many times people do that and don't fully get why it doesn't make much sense. COD will do fine, SW BF will do fine. Not having a SP wouldn't mean jack as BF as a series has sold MILLIONS purely being JUST MP alone when it was just that and SW BF already confirmed it actually has a solo offline mode just like the last games did..... Last I recall SW BF1 had MISSIONS as its base SP.. https://www.youtube.com/wat... That is what its SP consisted of. Many made a fuss regarding SW BF not having what was described....but neither SW BF has actually had that either. The games had missions that took less then 10 hours to complete all of them, I never remember those games being this deep, experience. Battlefield has the same mission type set up for it co-op. Star Wars BF didn't have this huge SP like the BF series has with some titles. Mind you...this is what was said regarding that. http://www.forbes.com/sites... "EA says that there are a series of short mission that can be complete solo, co-op, or online, rather than a scripted multi-hour campaign. “I would say [these missions] occupy that space…where you play alone,” General Manager of DICE" Sooooooooo what EA is saying is that SW BF is going to be just like what SW BF was prior to this...mission based. This was stated a couple weeks ago and it seems like many haven't really caught up to it. They are merely saying they won't make a huge SP as SW BF hasn't had that...EA already has other teams working on that and again....SW BF as a series wasn't not really about that, I barely recall those SP's, what I do remember is that amazing MP MODE DOE! lol. "The game is first and foremost a multiplayer game. Battlefront was a multiplayer game"- Patrick Bach. Key word "was" ie they are merely adding to what the series had previously in terms of concept, SW BF fans are still getting missions...its what they had, its what they are now getting. http://www.onlysp.com/star-... Sooo this concept of SW BF and um "doesnt have a proper campaign" doesn't make much sense as its mission based...just like the last SW BF games offline modes...... So it doesn't have a feature that it never did prior to? Yet it did quite fine with out em. The game will be fine, SP's are not DICE's best work in terms of BF games and the SW BF series again never actually had this deep SP mode many keep making it out to be, what it had is what it looks like DICE is doing anyway. EA has enough teams that are better fit to do a SW single player ONLY title that would make more sense then to waste time and money adding on a tacked on feature. Let DICE make a MP game, let them add missions like the older SW BFs, Let Bioware and Visceral do and SP ONLY SW game and call it a day.
"Should Black Ops III Be Scared Of Star Wars: Battlefront?" LOL. No. It's Star Wars Battlefront that should be "afraid" of Black Ops III. Yes, Star Wars Battlefront will be a success based on hype, but it doesn't stand a chance against Black Ops III. Star Wars Battlefront is basically Battlefield in the Star Wars universe.
They should both be afraid of halo 5
I agree. It is shaping up to be the best fps of all time. People need to realise that star wars is just a battlefield skin and theres no campaign, black ops on the other hand has a campaign and zombies (which I love) but at the end of the day halo 5 is going to destroy everything the beta was just on another level.
I think it should be the other way around in my opinion. The fact that Star Wars is coming out on several platforms is what's gonna drive it over most of the competition, including exclusives, in terms of hype.
Well it's on all platforms and like all exclusives it obviously won't sell as well but at the moment halo has the most pre orders for any game coming out in the next two years and by the trailers shown it looks like the game that most people are hyped for. I'll be getting black ops because of zombies and halo 5, I might skip out on battlefront because it already screams DLC and I'm guessing its going to be way too similar to battlefield
Star wars will sell more overall since it's coming out on multiple platforms but halo will destroy star wars on xbox, no doubt in my mind. It could even end up being relatively close to the overall star wars sales. We're talking about halo here which hits near 10 million copies every release, and this one's shaping up to be one of the best yet.
Thus far, I've not seen any reason for any of these games to be scared of each other, but a game on one platform will hardly make the dent of Call of Duty or Battlefront, regardless if it's Halo or not.
Yeah, Halo 5 is most likely going be Halo MCC (meaning broken online). Battlefront might end up as a mess as Battlefield 4, one can hope it doesn't.
Just shut up. You obivously don't know that.
I know Halo MCC hasn't been fix yet, deal with it. Bungie isn't working on it anymore and rumors of Microsoft trying to get Bungie back. Just shows Microsoft doesn't believe 343 can do it.
I don't think so since they are both multiplats especially given the XB1 install base. I predict that COD and Star Wars Battle Front 3 will outsell Halo 5. I honestly don't see how an exclusive on a system with a small install base will perform better than two well known franchises over multiple systems.
Where/ who/ why in the world do ppl come with trash,rubbish,pointless articles like this? Edit: psextreme ooh not surprised. That covers the where.
Not if both suck equally. Seriously no thought was put into these titles, they are either blatant ripoffs and/or reskins.
The game may be complete thrash, but it'll sell really good anyways. The trailer is at like 17million views, that's insane.
Maybe, I personally will not be buying this COD, it does not deserve my hard earned money. The same goes for EA's rubbish. I would rather support Deus Ex and The Witcher.
Not until EA can release a stable game, especially in the BF series. I do not count Hardline which was basically glorifed DLC.
Halo 5 will own them both! But I am quite sure I'll play all three.
Vegeta: Let me ask you. Does a game like yourself ever experience fear?
lol I wanna say yea but CoD has this undying fanbase that will buy their games without question. SO no.
I'm looking forward to BO3...I like the treyarch games. No it should not be scares of Battlefront...I don't see them being competition...however it SHOULD be scared of Halo 5.
They all should be afraid of nintendo games /s
Planetside 2/ Battlefront -Large scale Multiplayer heavyweights of 2015, lol.
i dont think black ops is affraid. Treyarch is a highly competent studio Dice... Battlefield 4.
No it shouldn't. Battlefront is more like Battlefield and not COD.
Black OPS 3 is going to do just fine. The COD players are going to go out and buy COD. I think Battlefront will do really well, but we will have to wait and see if it has any real staying power. As we saw with Titanfall and Evolve the hype for a lot of multiplayer only games dies quickly after release.
Not when dice are involved... they put that special mp sauce in their games that are just epic and replayable for years.. unlike cod and other game developers
I wouldn't say a yeaaar... Maybe like 7-8 months I was solidly hooked on BF4s maps but playing MP on PC again now (5 bucks, couldn't resist), they're already getting boring.
Its impossible for a product to be scared of another product but i think starwars has way the bigger fan base than cod Muppets... and with dice making it a multiplayer only game which they are kings at itll be something spectacular. ....
History showed us that the CoD games always work and have a great value in regards to contents and game modes. So, no. BO3 shouldn't be afraid.
I wish it were but its not.
Yes, and for FPS/TPS players it's going to be an amazing late part of 2015. The problem is, there's so many good ones coming out, most will not buy them all. That means, each game, will suffer, but some more then others. Which ones to say exactly would be nothing more then a guess, however we can see the way things are headed and make pretty good ones based off this. Call of Duty sales have been dropping for years. I forget the exact numbers, but by now, cumulatively, it's been a pretty big drop from it's best selling one a few years ago. Another important factor is what they had going for them the last two-three years. Newer engines, and new consoles. People complained for years about CoD and wanting a new engine, and then wanting a new engine on a new console. Despite these things happening, sales still dropped. Now you have this year, where there will be a ton of competition for your money. Not just competition, but a return to the scene from four known and loved IP's. First let's say by Xmas shopping season, Battlefield Hardline will be discounted. Quite a few people will pick this up when it gets cheap, and this seems like a game that will be old enough to be heavily discounted to $15-30 depending on the platform/sale. I remember double dipping BF4 on PC for about $11-12 around the Sept after release. I could see a $15 Origin and $20 PSN/XBL sale prices sometime during holiday season. That will generate sales. Then you have Nintendo's Splatoon. This won't effect it that much, but it'll still be there, and people who have multiple systems will want to get it. It'll still be new enough to draw away some sales, yet it might be old enough to see some discount by Nintendo, which are slow to discount games. It's different, and continues to have a good deal of buzz. People itching for something completely different can scratch that with Splatoon. Of course you'll need a Wii U, so it won't be far reaching, but for the millions who have one, Splatoon will be in the mix. Then you have the trifecta of returnees and they are multiplatform. The meat of the point. Battlefront with it's insanely popular Star Wars IP. Based on the amazing Frostbite 3 engine that allows for some really crazy FPS/TPS gaming. Maybe you are one of those people who were turned off from the bugs of the BF3 and BF4, and so you didn't get to see or realize the vast playground these games were. If you've played these games enough, you will know what I am saying. The playground nature of those FPS/TPS games is EPIC. The WTF moments are legendary and blow every other major FPS/TPS out of the water and it isn't even close. Now that playground will be used for the Star Wars universe. With Star Wars weapons. Star Wars vehicles. Star Wars characters. BF: Hardline released in a much better shape, and if Battlefront releases similarly, or even better, then there won't be much to hold it back. I have a feeling that if it isn't very buggy, and that word spreads, then EA will get a bunch of people who swore off Battlefield, to give them another shot with Battlefront. Throw in the fact that this game is going to be released near a long anticipated blockbuster Star Wars VII, there are going to be a ton of Star Wars fans jumping on board. This game is going to be a major seller. Many of these people have been or currently are CoD players. This is another option, and knowing Star Wars fans, they are going to pick up a Star Wars game. If that means pushing out CoD, then that's what it means. People have been begging for a new Battlefront for close to a decade. Well, it's coming.
Then you have the return of Rainbow Six. A tactical shooter which brings a higher level of play and teamwork with it. It's got some pretty sweet destructible areas that change the map subtly but massively. The Alpha was very fun, and the game was very playable. It only had two maps, but those two maps were a great showcase of what this game could be. One can only hope for a remastered Casino map. Rainbow Six is a bit more niche, but it still has quite the following, and it's been a good long time since the last one. Just like Battlefront, people have been wanting another one for quite a few years. Because a good portion of Rainbow Six players are also CoD players, this will impact CoD as well. Then we have Metal Gear V and what will be the new Metal Gear Online. A huge following, of very dedicated players love Kojima, and this will likely be the last Metal Gear with Kojima. A great TPS, it's online is deep, unique, and people have been waiting for it for YEARS. I mean what other online shooter can you put down porno mags behind you along a path that if an enemy walks/runs over them they react and look at them for a sequence that allows you to notice and kill them? What other games lets you hide in a box only to pop out after they pass and kill them? Just so many cool aspects, selectable buffs/traits, and gadgets to play with the game is very unique. Yes with that quarterback arm you really can throw the grenade like you are a centerfielder trying throw someone out at home plate. This too will be a massive seller, and it's multiplatform this time. This means it will likely be the biggest Metal Gear game ever. Before you had fanboy wars effecting things. Not this time. This is going to be something that PS3/360/PS4/One/PC all will enjoy. When you realize all the buzz that happened last time was simply for a PS3 version, then you realize this thing could be multiple times bigger then any previous version and all the buzz that creates amongst all these platforms might create quite a fever pitch. So what do we have in common with all these games up against CoD? A bunch of games that are either unique, and/or games with franchises where people have been waiting or begging for a new version to be released, one even with a blockbuster movie all up against a title which has shown to be petering out, that releases every year, and people are getting tired of it. When push comes to shove, many people will choose these other games. Hardline, Splatoon, Battlefront, Rainbow Six, Metal Gear Online... that's a lot of quality FPS/TPS out this year and/or holiday season besides CoD. Many people will choose one or most of these other games over CoD. Me personally, I already have Hardline, but I know for a fact I'm going to get each and every one of these other games. The only one I'm uncertain of, is CoD. I'll probably end up getting it, but at a discount, which for me, is something I've never waited on for a CoD game. But it's not guaranteed. They have E3 to show me why I should buy this game. Assuming you can get Hardline for $20 and say Splatoon for $40, and the rest for $60...to buy all these games including CoD, you are going to need $300 before any tax/shipping if applicable. But we're not done yet. If you happen to have an Xbox One, well then you are highly likely to be getting Halo 5. It won't reach Halo 3 level of craziness at launch, but it has a large audience that has been waiting for this. Not nearly as long as the others, but it's a franchise with some serious weight to it and it too will pull sales from CoD.
So if you own all consoles, and want to pick up ALL of those games, assuming those discounts on BF: Hardline and Splatoon, then you are going to need to spend $360 on JUST FPS/TPS games. The FPS/TPS genre is stacked, and I didn't mention any of the other ones coming out, and some more might be revealed at E3. There definitely will be more under the radar FPS/TPS releases on PC as well. How many really think people are going to want to spend $360 (which with tax and shipping if you go physical, means over $400) JUST ON ONE GENRE? Given all the new and highly anticipated franchises making a return, how many are going to skip what's seemingly always been there and always will be and pass on CoD? I suspect it's going to be Call of Duty. You got all of this newness, hype, blockbuster movies, even a little Kojima intrigue up against the same old thing in Call of Duty. This is a perfect storm of quality titles that if none of them are delayed, will likely put extreme pressure on CoD sales, to the point where this menagerie of titles might unseat CoD. CoD has never seen such pressure, and it might be many years until it has to again, but it will be seeing it this year, and I for one am interested in seeing how this plays out. Will they fend off the hordes or not? We'll see. Of course there are also some amazing games that aren't FPS/TPS. So who here plans to pay $300-400 or more for FPS/TPS games AND buy some or all of these? Witcher 3 Batman Arkham Knight Godzilla God of War III: Remastered Madden '16 Mad Max Project Cars Xenoblade Might and Magic Heroes VII ...or any of the ones from early this year which should be on discount Evolve Dying Light Bloodbourne Toukiden Mortal Kombat X The Order 1886 ...or any of the ones likely to be big at E3 which for many will mean 2016, but may come out in 2015. Everybody going to rapture Final Fantasy XV Homefront: Revolution Devil's Third Battleborn Kingdom Hearts 3 The Division Just Cause 3 No Man's Sky ....plus any unknown E3 surprises for 2015 release...there are almost always some. Put that all together (and any game I'm forgetting), and Call of Duty is facing competition like it has never seen. Yeah it should be scared. Not just of Battlefront, but for ALL these FPS/TPS, and ALL of these quality games of other genres too. Call of Duty will still sell millions, but likely with all of this competition, millions less. It will be interesting to see how much all these highly sought after and anticipated competitors can take a bite out of the CoD behemoth.
I doubt Activision is too worried, they know a ton of people will purchase their game. But I suspect Battlefront will sell a lot as well.
Battlefront will blow cod out of the water.
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