Many expected Xenoblade Chronicles X to top sales in Japan last week, but at least according to Tsutaya's charts, that have been just released, Monolith Software's new JRPG had strong competitors that pushed it down to 4th place.
Tsutaya is not counting Xenoblade X copies that were in limited edition bundle just so you people know.
still, a game like this should sell half a million day one and move loads of consoles... sigh..
a good game with so much work behind it should be higher ...hey chance for monolith to port it on a more successful system...4 the players;)
None of the other game sales include digital too so the comparison is levelled and fair. The game should have topped the charts being the first and only JRPG on the console. Nintendo held so many directs and presentations to build hype for this game. The real reason for low sales is that the Japanese did not like the game. There are ton of 1 star scathing reviews on Amazon Japan. The biggest complaints are poor story, silent protagonist, bad character models and animations, cliffhanger ending, no dungeons or towns, broken gameplay, big empty open world full of running, tedious rng-based Kizuna quests and bad background musics. Many say that it compares very poorly to it's predecessor on Wii. I also heard an interesting rumor going around in Japan that they heavily altered the plot, left numerous loose ends and made the hero silent just to add the online component and online boss raids. People are very angry with that too. If anyone wants to know gameplay and plot details then I can spoil them for em. I know them all including the twists and the ending. Its quite disappointing. I am an Asian so I have been watching the live streams and hearing the complaints of Japanese gamers.
@Griever I had a feeling that this game wouldn't be a big hit in japan critically. They really did take out a lot of what made the first special. Im looking at amazon Japan and i dont see many 1 star reviews but i see plenty 2's and 3's. Im sure it'll still be a solid JRPG, but not a timeless one like the original Xenoblade. Based on in game data its safe to say it's sold at least around 60k. The first quest that shows this data (2 hours in) has 60k users finished. The only other JRPG on the horizon is SMT x FE which will probably sell on brand name and bland anime tropes alone.
@Pedroyamato Why are you such a fanboy? I also own a 3DS XL and I am playing bravely default. I love it. Also Played Fire Emblem Awakening before that but I never act like you. If something is good then it is good and if something is bad then it is bad. Many games have been bundled and they are not included in those sales as well so that is a moot point. That is just an excuse and does not makes much difference in the total sales. I know that Japanese did not like the game because Japanese forums, twitter posts, Amazon JP reviews and livestreams give you a good general idea of the reception. The Amazon JP reviews are not just blank 1, 2 or 3 stars but include a lot of details about the game and reasons why the player did not like it. Many of them them have been playing Monolithsoft's games since Xenogears including me. Fanboys would just give a 1 star and spew hate in the comments and run. They do not give details and express heartfelt disappointment. Rumours always have some element of truth in them. There is no smoke without a fire somewhere. Many gamers have mentioned that rumour in their Amazon reviews. If you have the game please tell me how did that Kizuna quest searching for those comet stones go that you have to mine? How many hours did it take to get those multiple stones since you can only mine once every 30/60 minutes? In the meantime you cannot proceed with the story. As for gameplay, tell me if your classes matter when riding a skell? I know they dont and that is broken. Skells are overpowered too as fuel is not a serious issue and you can get them repaired before they break and you lose them. Finally, yes I do not own the game because many have told me it is not good and worth my time based on tastes. The story is incomplete, there are no dungeons, there are no towns and the game is only 12 chapters. I do not understand this logic that you fanboys use that you HAVE to buy the game in order to be able to say that it is bad. Why do I have to waste my money and discover it is bad?? Do you have to bet bitten by a snake and nearly die to be allowed to say that it poisonous?? Why not just listen to others who are warning you?? EDIT: You are a fanboy because you are overly defensive and sensitive. Cant you talk without all the CAPS, yelling and getting angry like a whiny brat even though you claim to be an adult? You sure do not act like a mature adult. It is just a game. I am here talking about the game because I have been following the game since the reveal. I have played all Xeno games and I am fan of Monolithsoft before they became Monolithsoft under Namco. You or me liking a game does not makes it good. A game being good is based on objective facts and qualities. You are willing to give a free pass to the flaws in the game but others are not. That is the difference. Finally, you do not have to buy every game to be able to judge if it is bad or good. That is just a defensive maneuver used by fanboys to invalidate other people's opinion and sometimes even the truth. Do you buy every trash or failed product to be able to say that it is bad?? I will not get into further argument over this because you are clearly incapable of carrying a mature conversation. I would really like to meet people like you face to face and see how angry and tough they are in real life. I remember an incident where a guy tracked down an internet tough guy to his home and grabbed him by his neck as he was grovelled in fear.
azdiine - Not sure what world you live in but not many JRPG's do that. Go check JRPG numbers for the jrpg's over the past 10 years.
abzdiine- I agree. I just finished Xenoblade Chronicles for the first time and it was an outstanding game. It's definitely one of the best games i've played in the past 5 years. I was struck by how long it was if you actually spend the time to do all the sidequests. I only missed a few due to me not quite understanding the point-of-no-return system for the first time restricted quests, but i'd say I managed 95%... and i've got well over 100 hours on the first play-through. Btw... screw playing it on the Wii. The game looks immensely better using Dolphin + HD Texture pack on PC. I rendered the game at 4x Native Resolution internally, then used nVidia DSR to ramp it up to 3840x2400, smoothed 15%, and downsampled to my display wich is 1200p. http://i.cubeupload.com/kwU... Keep in mind, you need a very fast CPU to run this game with 4x Native rendering, and fast GPU for that level DSR. Looks great though. 3-4-5- Now that I think about it, you're right on that. JRPG's rarely ever pull huge sales numbers and while there are exceptions, its just how it is. JRPG developers should move away from being platform exclusive because the ones that did are doing very well. Falcom released the English version of Trails in the Sky on PSP about 4 years ago (i'm guessing) and did quite poorly on that platform. Xseed then released the game on PC just last year and have sold well over 100k copies, exceeding their expectations by a nice margin. And to think this game was initially released in 2004. lol. Luckily quite a few Japanese developers have taken notice of this and are looking at PC versions of quite a few upcoming games.
Yeah, and only 5 days of sales too.
You must be sarcastic,right? Now even five whole days aren't enough? A game rarely gets 7 days to sell in it's first week. Besides sales ALWAYS go down in second week even if it got only one day of sales in the first week. People who gonna buy in the first week do so in the first couple of days. The don't wait for the last day of the week.
@Griever He's sarcastic
I don't know why people are so eager to bring up digital sales when the other games on the list who ranked higher, albeit less hyped are excluding that information also. This is a fair comparison especially on a home console where physical is the dominant format. As for the sales in general they're pretty bad and to be honest I expected it to do better. I wouldn't be surprised if it did the same here in the states ;)
Griever how about the 100 plus 5 star reviews with lots of positive detailed comments? are they just BS? Only worth listening to 30 bad reviews, huh? 3/4 of which are by sony fanboys. Just click on their review histories and see the Sony troll love. THe other 1/4 areb Otau who give every game on Amazon Jp 1 star.If you could read Japanese instead of just pretending you can you might have a point.
This game released on wrong platform, plain and simple. JRPG fanbase is on Playstation.
lol you dont mess with puzzle & dragon and dragon quest fanbase
4th is not bad, however..... This doesn't count digital copies of the game. And Xenoblade Chronicles X is the top game downloaded on the eShop. This also doesn't count the bundles that apprently did very well.
Well pretty none of those games are counting their digital sales obviously so that's a non-factor.
the reason he bring up digital sales, because X team said its best to download, so everything will be there, if you get the disc you would have to download parts of the game to make it smooth and etc......in other words for this particular game theres more interest for people to download it compare to the other games on the list that would still play the same regardless if you got the disc or not
all of the top games are e shop games and its already been confirmed that X dominated e shop sales.
It's not done very well....game looks incredible but is likely to drop off because of platform choice
You will get a lot of salty disagrees by the Nintendo army but you are right. They think this game will be some sort of saviour for their console and it clearly isn't. For 2 reasons 1. Its not a 1st party game on nintendo and 2. its only on nintendo. If the first game at least was released on other consoles they would have built a fanbase that might have bought on wiiu but most them those 10 million wiiu owners (including myself) probably havnt played the first game.
It is a first party game. Check your facts before commenting.
Turning these sales, which don't include the bundle sales or digital sales, into a reason to pull console war statements that put the console at fault, just makes you sound bad. The game is not doing badly. Its console isn't the reason its sales aren't higher. And FYI, it's a first party game. Nintendo owns somewhere between 94 to 98% of Monolith and have for a while.
If you haven't played the first game yet, you have no one to blame but yourself. It released on the highest selling home console of last gen (Wii) and then again this year on the New 3DS. You've got no excuse to miss this masterpiece. If you want to complain that it's not on other consoles, go ahead but Monolith Soft is owned by Nintendo. What else were you expecting?
Nobody thinks it's going to be a savior. Real, ACTUAL gamers don't care about bragging rights and sales charts, they just care about playing great games. Whether the rest of the world ignorantly cheats themselves of those experiences is none of our concern.
That because people bought the bundle not physical much and they most likely went digital considering it the first pre-load game
I think if Xbox and PS4 have proved anything this generation the Japanese especially have not gone heavy on the digital yet especially with the WiiU which everybody with a wiiu knows is really dumb to go digital because of of several reasons like games are console tied.
Wrong. Games are tied to accounts. Accounts are tied to console. The games my brother bought on his account I cant download them. To play your games on another system you must first unlink. All these misinformation about Wii U account from people who never owned one.
Lol just lol , XCX is 4th physicaly we don't care about the digital version since orther games are also physicaly . Anyway this is the proof that Wii U always hype thing they won't even buy , they said XCX would be Zelda U remplacement for this year ..... The west sales should be a lot better and if we add the digital sales Monolith Soft should have thier money back . Btw : it can still be a long term seller like Bayonetta.
@ NoctisPendragon who is they?
Those in n4G for instance , look at the topic when Zelda U was delayed , they were all like "No problem we have XCX " but now everyone is like "it is really good for XCX since it has a small fan base etc ...) . I always said "if they hype it , they better buy it " wich does not seem to be the case atm (in Japan at least ) , i'll wait for the digital sales before jumping to conclusion .
The game sold very well. It was outsold by the real DQ game and Puzzle and dragon both of which were only 3000yen and both of which have huge fan bases.
I know it sold well and they will surly get thier money back once the west version is out . I am mostly talking about those who thought (and they are numerous) that XCX would be sell like a Zelda U or kill Final Fantasy .
And that's true. We DO still have XCX. What do Japanese Tetsuaya sales placement numbers have to do with XBC being a top tier, excellent Wii U game to look forward to this year? I just don't get it with you people. You act like all we care about is bragging about sales numbers. YOU may do that, but I can assure you most people with a Wii U just wanna play fun games. That's it. They can bomb and they can flop, or they can sell 5 million copies. Either way makes no difference- we still have a top rated, excellent game to look forward to playing this year. Sales have nothing to do with us enjoying a fun game. Sure, it's always a shame to see a truly amazing game not be played by as many people as it deserves, but hey, that's life. Many legendary games are played by very few. All I know is that I'm going to be playing this game this year, and for me, this is better than Zelda.
Makes me think about Lost Odessey .
4th place isnt that bad considering a mario version of puzzle and dragons was 1st and the other 2 was a dragon quest game.
Not bad at all. Both those Dragon franchises are hard to beat in Japan.
A whole new game going up against a Mario spin-off and a new update to Dragon Quest, which is incredibly popular in Japan. And not only did it still claim the #1 spot as the most downloaded title, it still managed to hit the top 4 in physical releases alone? That's actually quite promising. The devs did make it specifically clear that this was one title where, for the sake of loading times, digital was the way to go, unlike the other three games above it on this chart, so we won't know the full scope of its release success until we see the digital numbers. And we've still got its global release to go, too. Good news all around, I'd say. As for the story, well, if it turns out to not be as good, then a bit of DLC down the road to expand upon the story, and maybe even add a new continent or two, is very much a possibility. I don't generally trust 1 and 2 star reviews of games so soon after release unless they're fairly written with decent points, instead of the knee jerk reactions of people who either did a review before having cleared it, or did their reviews fully intent on exaggerating the scope of said game's flaws. When it comes to big titles like this, you'll almost always see people exaggerating its flaws and writing horrible reviews to discredit it. It happened with quite a few others. It only gets worse when you're dealing with a game on the system that isn't the leader in the popularity polls, even despite the fact that the system is not making the game bad. (console wars are nonsensical like that) One of the criticisms I've heard is about the music. So far I've only heard one track from the game that I did not like. It might just be a difference in taste due to culture or something, but I haven't seen much evidence, personally, to lend any credence to the complaints about the soundtrack. I'll wait until I've gotten the chance to play before I fully judge, but I have sincere doubts that it's bad, when a lot of people who imported the game over here for their Japanese Wii U's have been saying its fantastic.
As a big fan of the first game's soundtrack i understand the criticism. The vocal tracks (especially the j-rap ones) are cringe worthy at best. The original had sweeping codas and blood-pumping guitars, this one goes for a more technical sound which couldve worked well with the game's setting, but they abandon that motif in the vocal tracks. The game definitely went for worldwide appeal in terms of design decisions, for better or worse. They also went for persona-esque vocal tracks and monster hunter-esque multiplayer as an attempt to spur sales, but in the process a lot of the Xenoblade appeal was lost. I still think i'll like the game, and im still getting it for sure.
Other than, in your opinion the music, what part of Xenoblade's appeal was lost? X has a better -world -story -gameplay -bonus content -side quests -customization. Sure that's my opinion, but it would be pretty damn hard to debate any of those points.However, Things like more bonus contnt, deeper story, deeper customization, and deeper gameplay are facts that can't be argued.
Like i said before nintendo and their 10 million wii u owners are people that are stuck in the past and ONLY buy mario spin off games lol. I would be shocked if Xenoblade sold 75,000 in america cuz the game looks nothing special from what i have seen.
As a Wii U owner this is looking to be a pass for me and not because we don't get a simultaneous release here in the states but, because of its presentation. I didn't get the same wow factor from watching XC footage as I did with FF15. ;)
It's amazing how much power Nintendo have.
Well hopefully it will be out before the end of summer in the west or it will be buried and forgotten from September on. That would be quite a shame. Personally I think Nintendo is showing too much of their games before release lately. Way too much.
there have been some signs that the game may be a bit of a letdown- Does not mean it won t be good but i think most of us either are or were expecting this game to be on par or perhaps even bigger and better than Xenoblade i have surely felt this game would probably make up for many of the Wii U s shortcoming re software - but now my expectations are def lowering- not so much i won t buy the game but ill prob read a few reviews 1st
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