Gamasutra's Christian Nutt returns from attending Sony's E3 2008 press conference to look past the announcements and analyze the trends, asking primarily - was Sony's message to consumers targeted to the now, or to the soon?
Can the 360 consumers wait to get their 360 repaired ? if yes then yes PS3 consumers can LMAO OWNED
I wish you could get delayed too. Damn I never trust condomes If you were delayed then you could have better brain, you could be more handsome not like now, ugly bald with sunglasses and mustach around your eye with 4 inch penis and 2 ballz like marbles
is that something in home....where you can buy a condome and put ikea furniture in it? Dumb ass f*cking droids..roflmao
That's so funny I think I have go do three one-handed pushups.
....i love it when people laugh at their own comments. What's a 'condome' btw?! You idiot.
Sony said wait? When? MOVIE DOWNLOADS ON DAY 1! OWNED! Europe gets PLAYTV first instead of Movie downloads! OWNED SOCOM, LBP, R2, Motorstorm 2 all this FALL! These people must be stuck in time or something. This isnt 2006. LBP is an October release for instance. Thats barely 3 months AWAY! 2008 is like what people have been saying for over 7 months now. its the year of the PS3. It started with Blu Ray kicking into high gear in the FIRST weeks of January! Merry Xmas and a happy new 2008 BOTS! hahaha. Then PS3 sales started kicking 360 sales every month. Multi platform games saw PS3 sales surpassing 360 sales. MGS4 metacritics 9.6 GAME OF THE DECADE. Firmware 2.41 made PSN practically ON PAR with LIVE. And now all those delicious PS3 exclusive games are lined up. Year of PS3 instead. So what does the 360 have? A few new services that noone is interested about and a severe lack of games? Ok 360 clearly walking behind facts.
Delays automatically make a better product - See Haze and Killzone 2 for details
I think they're talking more about Jack T's statements during the Sony keynote, telling customers it maybe years before we see what the PS3 can really do. But still it was taken slightly out of context, I think it was more their way of trying to reinstall Sonys commitment to offer consumers longevity, letting the customers know, if a PS3 was bought now it will only get better and better over time giving value for your investment. It's not really talking about game delays. At all.
If the current 08 lineup doesn't change for PS3 then I'll be satisfied. I hope Wipeout HD comes this year.
Rushing a product makes it stable. See Xbox 360 for details. On-topic: My game (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots) is only scratching the surface. Ask Colonel Roy Campbell.
Jack Tretton has to reinforce the PlayStation strategy into some of you thick skulled people with short term memory spans. PS1, PS2, PSP were/are all long term projects and the PS3 is no different. While a certain other system has there 2007 games that are higher rated and looked better than most of their 2008 games. On PlayStation you won't ever see that. A older generation game will always in general look better and perform better. On PlayStation it's the only system you get your moneys worth.
i dont get your comment, haze is garbage. But are you implying killzone is garbage? It is only the best looking game on any console.
i cant wait beyond any more that why as a ps3 owner i got a 360
And it was well worth it. I waited an extra year for the PS3 over the 360 and got a better working console that has yet to break. Patience is a virtue and good things come to those who wait. Now that the wait for great games is over, I am truly getting the best gaming experience the PS3 has to offer. And now, Jack T. tells me the best is yet to come? All I have to say to that is BRING IT ON! I have all the time in the world to wait for great games and when they hit, I will be glad I did.
if uncharted is not the best they can do then WOW
Haze? Seriously you are joking right? Haze SUCKED.
look at what im enjoying now and look at what i have to look forward to. motorstorm GT5p mlb 08 the show mgs4 haze i got a bunch of multiplatform games also... soon to buy more games b4 resistance2, LBP etc. comes out. im the #2 SOCOM fan in the world- so you know how i feel about that.. : D like damn... just look at all the stuff thats coming man. and just look at all the stuff thats already out..... NOWS THE TIME TO BUY.
why #2 and not #1? :S
im ranked #2 in the WORLD, the dude thats ranked #1 is probably a bigger fan than me : P : O ; )
I already own a PS3, so of course I'm going to wait. I'll just continue playing Wii games and PC games as filler between the amazing PS3 titles that are in the works.
bubbles to that! so true.
Buy an 360 and have it all.
na 360 dont have it all if not i will still be playing mines ill wait for gears 2 then ill see
actually thinking sony won e3....you need to get your eyes checked and realize you bought a losing console...when is it destined for 2nd place again..2009? roflmao.
u bought a photo copier only your copier copy's software and makes it a whole lot worst mii mii mii
Stop swallowing Microjizz and be realistic. Your CopyBox FeeFixMe is already dead.
sony took it killzone 2 pwnz all
We are barely half way through 2008, and we have a fantastic festive season lined up, then, already we know there some incredible games lined up for '09 and some unannounced ones. Somebody else pointed out that the comment is about sony supporting a 10 year life span and not dropping thier customers at the first sign of a new console *cough* *cough* people who invested in a ps3 years ago are still being supported, and us that have invested in a ps3 know that despite the fact we already have fantastic games being delivered, we know that in 3 years time games will only be better and so will the console support from sony - even if they have released details of a ps4
Strange, that's not the idea I got from Sony's conference. They did ask to wait a bit longer for home, but apart from that it sounded more to me like they were re-assuring customers that they are still very much in it to win (considering some articles claiming that they have given up). When it comes to games, the message I got was that they have a lot of games right now (including 3rd parties), a lot more coming out before the end of the year (a lot of which are first party exclusives), and it's only going to get better in 2009 and beyond. They also have a lot of PSN titles end the PSN Video Store (although it's US only at the moment). I don't really understand the "just wait" argument. Doesn't Sony have enough at the moment to satisfy customers?
Sony did win, but if you're just looking for already used and offered quantity then yeah... go 360... I dunno what the hell this "big wait" thing is all about.... September all primary focus will be a 80gb ps3 with 40gb capabilities and in October there will be little big planet right? that's not really far away...
Actually im gonna push my forcast to spring of 09 when PS3 install base will be more than 360's. It was due to MGS4 selling more systems than I expected. Enjoy your lead for the next few months. Or will you be too embarassed to show up on N4G when your system is in 3rd place.
Well, since PS3's exclusive line up is around Oct~Feb,09. I guess that's the meaning of just wait. E3 do reveal many interesting info. about PS3 big title. RS2 shows gigantic boss game play, KZ2 revealed multiply mode, LBP got smoother(I found previous release game play video suffer frame rate problem), inFamous is alive and GOW3 officially announced. Still we missed some game title like White Knight Story, GT5P and Home
Its called The Waiting Game. 12 million player co-op. Over 365 days of gameplay. New DLC every 12 months at E3 to extend the game a further 365 days. True 4D graphics, you really can watch the grass grow. Guaranteed never to brick your console.
that game doesnt use any power. Hell my Ps3 has been in its box since I finnished Drakes fortune 6 months ago. This waiting game also allows extra time with the family and saves me money I would be wasting on other games. When Sony says just wait I say I wish I did cause by the time these games come out the PS3 will be about $299. I know there are great PS3 games out there but none appeal to me. Its interesting how MS and Sony really have the market divided.
I'm a playstation 3 owner, but lol. edit: lol at comment 8
,,,and blew it all out of proportion, saying "PS3 has no games" and "you'll have to wait for us to make good games". and was saying people not happy because of the high price still? when really all he was saying was you havn't seen anything yet, the PS3 3 is now and has been since at least the release of COD4 equal to the xbob 360 on multiplat games. MGS4 just been released, no one can deny thats a good game and a technical marvel, and we have resistance 2, motorstor 2, LBP, home beta, KZ2 on their way as well as the intersting PSN titles. how is it a bad thing that sony are saying their machine is just starting to stretch its legs? If it were the case that PS3 still had no games and couldnt match the 360 for multiplats then I would be pissed off as well, but my PS3 can do games at the same level as the 360, beat it with mgs4, and still has a lot more to come, oh and works as a high fed blu-ray player, which is now a relavent format as it won the format war, so the extra cost of the PS3 is definatly worth it now fed up with allt he bullsh*t articles like this coming on the net everyday
I agree. Its not just the BS articles... its the bs propaganda being force fed to everyone from "fanboys" Its sickening. I can understand if these people owned stock... maybe they do. But most are little teenage punks who have no clue about technology. What they need to do is worry about popping pimples and quit bashing sony everyday. They have brought a solid console to the market. If you dont like it, dont buy it... otherwise stfu.
for those who were patient we now have In game xmb Trophies MGS 5 Custom music (just needs to be patched but its already working with burnout) Movie store Wait til fall and we will have Home Resistance 2 Little big planet Wait till early 09 and we will have God of war 3 La noire FF 13 versus killzone 2
Since there are always things to come. PS3 brought resistance and motorstorm in 06, it brought uncharted, heavenly sword, warhawk, folklore, ratchet and clank and many PSN titles in 07, and this year we have already played GT5:P, MGS4 and GTAIV. We also got trophies, the video store, a revamped store, and lots of new functionality. Are we still waiting? Yes, there are tons of things to look forward to, as this year we have, aside from the already released games, resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, LBP, Socom, Siren Blood Curse (new episodes), ratchet quest for booty, Buzz and Singstar 2. I own a 360 but I use my PS3 more and I am very happy. I would tell you I can not wait, but I can since there are lots of things in the middle of waiting for Killzone 2, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, L.A. Noire, FFXIII, FF Versus, Uncharted 2, War Devil, Team Icos new games, Gran Turismo 5, and the 3 Cellius projects, among a lot more things. It is great to be a PS3 owner.
I can't wait until January, after Little Big Planet, Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3, Naruto, Socom, Resistance 2 have dropped. Reading all the douchebag articles that will come out proclaiming that PS3 has "finally succeeded" as if those games just showed up overnight. We all know that starting October things are gonna be FAR, FAR different. We know damn well PS3 is the only console that actually has good exclusives lineup for the next year, these anti Sony articles use to piss me off but now they're just getting sad.
Im glad i have my PS3 and i really liked Uncharted, but having to wait over a year and a half for a truly killer exclusive in Metal Gear Solid 4 did something to me emotionally
Cheap, Cheap, Cheap... but I feel ya.. why??
Did everyone forget that Metal Gear Solid just came out. I mean really do people ever get tired of looking stupid for saying things are "over" before they've even begun. In the PS one era, it was Sony will never beat nintendo, then in the PS2 era it was Sony will never beat Sega, and now it's Sony we'll never beat Microsoft. Does anyone see a trend here? Let's give Sony the benefit of the doubt since (gasp) Playstation has always delivered in some form or another. It's been out a little over a year and a half, barely a year in some regions, and people are already claiming it's over. I mean I could undertand if Metal Gear Solid hadn't just come out, or if the line up for the rest of the year looked bleak, but come on. Who can honestly say that Sony doesn't have one of the most diverse line ups this year. Stealth Action/Adventure = Metal Gear Solid 4 (currently available) Platforming = Little Big Planet (October) FPS = Resistance 2 (November) Simulation Racing = Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (currently available) Off Road Racing = Motorstorm 2 (october) Strategy RPG = Valkyria Chronicles (november) RPG = White Knight Chronicles (fiscal year 2008) If none of those titles interest you then, maybe 2008 won't be the year that the Playstation satisfies you, but you have to admit their trying to satisfy the consumer.
I bubbled everyone here just about. It's interesting because the PS3 is here to stay for 10 years like Kaz said yesterday we don't disservice our customers. Microsoft this is directed at you. The reason i won't buy a 360 is because of the reliability issues, lack of exclusives, paying for online and most implortantly how long will the system stay out for. Are they gonna rid it in 2010? I will keep my PS3 till 2012 at the least and if the PS4 has BC then any games released on PS3 ill buy on PS4 so i wont miss any great games unlike last gen. SONY knows what they're doing.
The WaitStation 3: Wait 3 years. MS had achievements in 2005. Sony gets trophies almost 3 years later. 360 could access friends list from anywhere since 2005 (Orig. xbox since 2002). PS3..after almost 3 years. 360 had custom soundtracks since 2005 (Orig xbox, since 2001). Ps3...after almost 3 years. 360 had the video store since....are you starting to see the trend here?
You should be proud. You have made all of the problems with the xbox disappear with one comment. It isnt old hardware. It now has a HDD that devs can utilize. It doesnt overheat anymore and die at home and tech shows. It doesnt use a storage medium for games used 10 years ago. It now has HUNDREDS of exclusives worth buying. MS owes you big time!
sony system launched in nov. of '06 do the math: thats 1 year and 7.5 months the ps3 has been out.....and that's 17 months less than three years.
u must be new >>>> opean zone >>>>>>> -_-
Besides MGS4 some are still disappointed this is the only game some really wanted. Now that FF13 is multi...there is only a few system sellers left or Epic franchises... Sony's motto with the PS3 has always been wait, or a work in progress. If your gonna do something you might as well do it right but taking 2-3 years for simple things is BS. Is topped drinking the koolaide a while back, my motto towards Sony is, I'll believe it when I see it, or at least a confirm date.
lol once again a "wait"... reminds me @ all teh PS3boys with "wait until", haha yes, wait until FF13 will get to the 360.. :D
Yeah,in 2010...along with splinter cell,and alan wake
will be a big year for the ps3, 2008 was Mgs4 and Resistance 2 for me.
droids will keep waiting till BS4 arrives droids will wait for their so called judgment day only to become clowns with bad DC EG:FF,DMC,VF,Assasin creed while we Xfans plays superior AAA's and take all 3rd party where they truly belong droids waits........ waits beyond .........waits till they become clowns ........waits for the Xfans leftovers (bioshock,eternal sonata)........waits for the inferior multiplats wait.....droid......... just wait cause your day will never come
u xbots just dont get it
ever time i see u claiming that u have a ps3...do u think any body belives u ?....its clear that u are a 360 fan boi, ive seen ur comments u posted and we all know who u really are !!!
Couldn't agree more! Every comment Mesh1 makes is a negative comment about PS3, even on the most positive of PS3 stories Mesh1's comments are negative! Not a chance this person owns or has ever owned a PS3. I think Mesh1 would get a lot more respect if he/she was actually honest about which console they prefer.
ps3 has definitely been a waiting game.. delayed console launch delayed vibration controller (DS3) delayed games, services, features (haze, home, in game xmb, etc etc, oblivion, half life2..) im not here to trash the ps3, its not a bad system at all. I had the 60gb Ps3 for a good while before i sold it but the reality of it is im tired of waiting an extra 6 months or an extra 1 yr for things we should be getting along with everyone else or since the beginning. not only that but after waiting, then its not up to par as on the x360. Half Life Episode 2 anyone? and many more multi platform games.. Gamers wanted in game xmb since the Ps3 Launch in Nov 2006. When do we get it.. July 2008? damnn.. that is some serious wait time. and just for something that 360 had when it first launched.. theres something seriously wrong there gamers with the ps3 should get accustomed to getting the short end of the stick.. why? because of how much harder the ps3 is to program for. a simple effect on the PC/x360 takes twice as hard or maybe even impossible to do on the ps3 hence all the delays, all the technical issues. as a gamer do i really want to be put through that? no.. i really don't understand how loyal some of you can be, I used to be strictly only on Sony's side simply because i don't like MS but the truth has to be said and the truth right now is the MS is delivering the things gamers want on time and not just making empty promises. but the best part has to be how everyone takes it like its nothing and make excuses in Sony's favor. you want Sony to start giving you the things you want on time and to start winning the console war, don't be so loyal to them, make them realize their mistakes.. make them work hard to improve.. X360 attaining FFXIII shows just how hungry MS, they want to be the dominant platform and they are putting their money behind it. what is Sony doing? putting money on their own studios.. which to be honest isn't wrong but i want to see games from third party developers. online, feature wise, and gaming wise MS is on top right now. as far as graphics its possible that PS3 definitely has better graphics with games like Uncharted but as far as creativity of what Ive seen done in games MS has most of the games i want. GoW, Halo3, Bioshock, Fable2, Mass Effect and not only that but it will continue to be the development platform. just giving my opinion, not out to say that anyone's purchase was necessarily a bad one or good one. just out to say that regardless of what console you have really look at the pros and cons and decide if your happy with it or not. i certainly wasn't happy with ps3..
It pains me to be negative on PS3 since I do own one but I never use it. I would sell it but the price drops made that too painful to take a loss on and KZ2 and GT5 will justify my investment but its taking too long. They can keep all these upgrades to the dashboard as far as i am concearned I just want to play games. Bluray? who cares I have HD cable and PVR for all my HD movie watching pleasure. People need to be more critical of obvious shortcomings or they will never be fixed. I hate my xbox 360 its loud it died on me and took 2 months for repair but the games are my favourite. As far as graphics go they are really great on both consoles. Gamers want content not promises. When Sony says wait they mean dont buy a 360 till we get our sh1t sorted out.
I've been waiting a long time for some stuff actually...
"Just Wait" should be Sony's new slogan...Actually, it should have been their slogan for PS3 from launch.
with great games on the way yes i will wait but if u screw us over with home i will lose it
Gamers that own any console are waiting for certain games to be released or features. Just because the PS3 has more things going on and games to look forward to isn't really a bad thing imo lol.
Correction. Sony has made more promises that they have yet to deliver on.
Maybe for Home but the rest isn't a problem. This article is about Home and after seeing exclusives like MGS4 and how long it took for that to come out and to see it look amazing is a sign that Sony knows what their doing and that we will be happy once it comes out.
I believe that's a White Lion song from the eighties. Download it you numb nut droids......and sing along.