While not every game may include Trophies for now, at least one major developer tells Joystiq that Sony's answer to Achievements will be "mandated" by Sony for every new PS3 release in 2009.
well thats obvious
.... are better than "achievements". Why? Because there's actual difficulty levels between them: Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum. Also, gamers can level up through them. Which is really cool.
i know, you dont have to tell me lol
This is true. Sony already said it would be mandatory for newer games. The title isn't even the same as the source. @simmcity http://ps3.gamespy.com/arti... "Lempel: We're working with developers to hit a deadline. It's not something that we're trying to force on them, since it eats into their development schedules. Many of them want to do it. It's just there's some additional work on their end; someone has to create art and assets, and we don't want to interfere with what they're currently working on. Ultimately, we'll have trophies for every game, but we didn't want to force it on them immediately."
would you care to give me a link to the story?
simmcity = ownt
Make them mandatory. Those lousy devs can create achievements, but tells us that they are too busy for trophies. *cough IW cough* rumble patch *cough.
Shouldn't be to hard. The exclusive 1st party will do it no matter what and the multiplatform games since it's mandatory for 360 they just need to copy them over to PS3.
I was about to say the same thing that it is mandatory just that recent games might not support it because of development stages. If a game is more than half way done it will most likely not support trophies but new developments will. If developers want to go back and fix their full games they can but aren't forced because it takes more time than an arcade game.
really obvious and really good
Trophies are way better than numbers a.k.a. achievements
ohh wow... you obviously don't own an xbox 360.. lol! http://xboxoz360.files.word... they are not just numbers... but they challenge the gamers, have individual icons, descriptions and are organized by games... not to mention that it allows you to do side by side comparison with other friends achievements... please tell me... how are Sony's trophies better than xbox 360 achievements? Seriously I want to know; please show us your wisdom or stupidity.
ya thanks for proving that ms is racist basters come on get points for calling someone a n*****, that is just some bullsh!t right there and now i have no respect for ms
<Respect... please, you're talking about a 250 billion dollar corporation. Like they give a sh!t about you.)
then more people join my side and then gets headlined and then they get sued
They better or developers will simply skip them... I think it's a good idea... otherwise it will be a failure.. if true, I think Sony is making the right choice...
Be realistic here Are they supposed to allow a developer put a game on their system that has MS achievements for 360 WITHOUT having trophy support for the ps3? HELL NO Why should they say "oh sure, you can disadvantage us if you want." That's all well and good for the older games to not have trophy support. But that shouldn't cut it now that trophies are available
And they have a sizable enough install base to make those demands of developers now. Wonder if they'll start demanding that developers include some sort of extra content to fill out the rest of the Blu-ray for multiplatform games?
that's not possible because it's like discriminating part of the fans! multiplat games will be almost the same for both consoles but you can always pay for exclusive DLC like what M$ did with GTAIV and Fallout3!
Sony is obviously trying to distance themselves from every developer known to man. Developers don't want Mandates put on them, they'll probably just not dev games for ps3 at all now. they'll say you, number 3 guy, is going to tell us what we should do? Don't think so. Trophies are an after thought.
Didn't Microsoft make their reward system manditory even given a set number that each game should have? Am not sure but i think they even made it manditory for every Xbox360 game to use Xboxlive in some form. So please this is what they need to do or else it's a waist of time.
ya, they already said it will be on the standard checklist by the end of the year, every game has to have it. Honestly I dont see why cant they do it, just use the exactly same achievement from the 360 build and renamed them, converts all the points to different trophies.
Sony should also make it mandatory for ingame music as well....
Developers could see the option of implementing custom soundtracks more work or a waste of time. Just look at how many people decided to patch their games to support it... NO one did! I'm talking about through in-game XMB.
I would like to see in game soundtracks available for every upcoming game by the end of the year. That'd be pretty neat.
Well, of course it should be mandatory, especially in 2009. It's 2008 and the trophy system was just barely introduced a few weeks ago and I don't expect many games in 2008 to support trophies, but there is NO EXCUSE for the PS3 games in 2009 not to support trophies.
Good for them.
Do developers have to actually design unique trophies for the trophy system, or are there default trophies so they can almost literally port the 360 achievements over?
there are I think about 4 different levels of trophies. Platinum (which are the hardest and most time consuming trophies to get), Gold, Silver and Bronze. Bronze obviously are the most common trophies to earn, then silver, gold etc. Platinum being the rarest.
Yeah they will have different tiers of trophies but i think they are gonna push for 3-D trophy renders for certain trophies so they can be displayed in HOME.
you the man Sony :D
This is no rumor, Sony announced this a while back, they said themselves, that all games releasing after so and so a date will be required to include trophies.
Devs have taken the time to implement Achievments in every 360 game to date without bit(hing about it so they should'nt start now. Maybe the basis for Trophies and Achievents are the same, but HOPEFULLY Sonys plan for Trophies is more than just a "worthless reward" for better lack of term. This would show they have a different strategy and use for Trophies VS. MSFT Strategy. As it stands, I'm not a fan of Trophies nor Acheivements. Trophy Earned, Achievmemnt Unlocked.. SO FUGGIN WHAT?! It doesnt give me anything. I'm hoping that Sony is saying to Devs we want Trophies that can be utilized to unlock additional content so they ACTUALLY SERVE A WORTH WHILE PURPOSE. This would and should be a differenterating factor between Achievments and Trophies. Maybe if they did something like this I would be more enthused, til then... Whatever.
I hope more devs make rewards like Insomniac does on R&C.
this only brings developer costs up more. they need a staff just do achievements, trophies, in game code for ps3 in game xmb and now there is rumor that Microsuck is up to its old tricks and wants to implement medals to counter trophies.
I have some programming experience and something like an achivement or trophy would take an extra week at most. A day or two to implement them into the code, and another couple days to test. Your done. And no modeler is going to be intimidated by created some low polly trophy to be implemented in home. Cake walk.
I just wish their was a little more planning from Sony before releasing trophies. Thanks for the trophies!
What i don't understand is with so little support in 2008 for trophies why SONY didn't better utilize there time by informing the devs that the feature would be implemented months prior so the could have gotten a head start. Or did SONY and the dev's are just dragging there feet??
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