"Human Shields" Gameplay Trailer of Hatred.
Looks alright from a gameplay perspective but I'm not quite sure whether I can have "fun" while playing this...
The gameply looks solid to be fair, if only it had some other purpose beyond simply, "murder all innocents for your sick pleasure." I remember when Manhunt came out - I absolutely loved that game - even though it was getting absolutely trashed by the media. The thing about Manhunt, it had character (remember Pigsy), and it had a story and it actually had pathos. By the time I got to Starkweather I was just so happy to shoot him over and over again for what he had put me through. Now that was an engaging but violent game. This on the other hand definately doesn't have the character, story or pathos that gives much needed context to the violence. That ISIS video game that got banned seems to have more purpose than this.
@logicalreason, the devs themselves said there's no higher ground for the game. There is no story or reasoning behind it. They want you, the player to come to with why he's doing what he's doing. Why he's so angry. So whether he was just assuming or not, he's right. No source as its late where I am and I don't care enough, I just wanted to correct you. He may be acting like a game journalist, but you're acing like a typical gamer troll.
If I'm not mistaken in manhunt you kill criminals and psychos. I'm not saying that they developers shouldn't make hatred but I understand why some people might hate the game. Its like if someone made a game about going to school and shooting people. Sure the game might be fun for some but others will find it quite offensive.
You can see it as endless survival if you like. Isn't this what half of the people do on GTA all of the time. Murder civs till cops chase you and try to put you down, murder cops? Only difference is that this is contextualised within the characters narrative... in GTA, it's arguably more disturbing as these are the actions the player chooses to take, unprompted by the game. This game is ultimately, for those people. To deny there is an audience, is to deny that people don't take enjoyment from similar actions in other games. Heck, GTA even used to contextualise this kind of violence with the 'rampage' type modes. In honesty, I think it's nice not to play the Hero, for once. The beauty of virtual worlds stems from the freedoms they grant, yet people, and developers chose to pose players into directly relatable characters, who's actions and mindset mimics what's considered a 'typical' human. I argue, that this is boring, and games like Hatred that offer the opportunity to partake in the actions of someone with a mindset divergent from typicality can be genuinely interesting, creative experiences.
It's a freakin Postal. I'm surprised people still have sand in their vaginas over it. And this is exactly something we've been doing in GTA games for over the years. There's a special place in hell for hypocrites I heard :D
Well at least it will be a bit different than the endless zombie games we seem to get now.
"Hatred - "Human Shields" Gameplay Trailer" I respect freedom of creation, but it's obvious to see wrong in the idea of harming people that have no intentions of fighting back. had the citizens all had weapons and never gave a sht i would have said fck it, why not.
I have a problem with your statement because you aren't harming anyone. Nothing in the game involves real people, it's a bunch of code meant to look like people. There are no "innocent people" dying when you play this game
Haha I actually feel bad when I accidentally kill innocents in games where you get that capability. Obviously I'm not gonna start crying or anything but I can't say that I don't give it a second thought. Needless to say I won't be playing this game and my personal prediction is that hardly anyone will.
I dont care what people say. Still gona play and buy this awesome game. Just look at GTA isnt that just killing and stuff?
Why is this adult only? Most of this can be done in GTAV if you choose to do it. I think Rated M should have been the right choice.
ermm... the game concept behind Grand Theft Auto had alot more going for it than just "murder innocent civilians in the most horrific way possible". In fact, not only does Grand Theft Auto NOT require you to murder innocents, but infact you can play the whole of Grand Theft Auto without murdering anyone (you can simply knock them out with a punch). This game on the other hand has no other premise but to glorify murdering innocents for sadistic pleasure. The AO rating is appropriate and well deserved.
But i am just saying it can be done in GTAV. So shouldn't it get the same treatment. I know what you mean that this game glorify murdering innocents but its not like you don't kill innocent people in GTAV. What about all those cops lol?
@DarkOcelet What you're saying holds true only if it's the IDEA of killing people we're talking about. That isn't the case here. Sure you can do all that in GTAV. You can also do some of it in Just Cause I'm sure. That isn't the point. No one cares about the fact that you are killing an npc. It's simply about presentation. Does GTAV have a grim, deathly, horror movie tone ? Does it have a story/premise of violentky stabbing innocent npcs while they earnestly plead for their lives ? No. The tone, the setting ----> the presentation - is different. When I kill someone in GTAV, I couldn't care less. I'm more interested in seeing the Euphoria physics system in action once I hit someone with a car. That's simply because GTAV is set up that way - it's presented that way. Even a Hatred dev made a comment about GTA saying it was violent, but that the violence was served up cleverly, so it didn't feel violent - which is spot on, I think. Hatred is designed to shock/disgust people. GTAV isn't.
It's the overall context of the game. If the developers of Hatred put the violence in a context it would be a very different story. GTA has a context, heck even Manhunt and Postal had a context, and moreover the context of GTA V (and Manhunt) does not require you to murder innocents. It does not require to murder cops either. A game that gives you no other option but to murder innocents, without any context to define the purpose of the violence, has defined itself as Xrated. The devs don't really need to censor the game, they just need to add context to the violence.
If you were an advocate against violence then I may have bought your B.S. but then you list off GTA, Manhunt and Postal. It sounds to me like you just need to have some justification to commit these violent acts in these games to make yourself feel better. Context or not, manhunt or Postal are not that far off of Hatreds level of glorifying murder for fun. BTW, I am all for video game violence as long as it's left to the adults, and hell , I just might buy Hatred too.
the game is just to brutal for them normal people, even though they don't complain about that torture scene in GTA5, going on a rampage is just to much for them.
I remember doing much worse on The Punisher on Xbox Classic. People seem to forget that Punisher exists and also Postal 2. That and apparently 'thugs' and gang members don't have Rights and freedoms and Thugs being tortured is okay because they've done criminal offences. Though if it's insinuated the people being killed and tortured are innocent. WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. Cause innocent people have more feelings than thugs and gang members :p Apparently.
You missed a very important part of your own comment. "Most of this can be done in GTAV IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO IT". That might not seem like a big deal, but it is. Because in GTAV the entire point of the game isn't to go around killing innocents. In fact, you get punished for it by having the cops and national guard come after you. In Hatred, the entire point is to slaughter as many innocents as you can. You cannot even progress in the game if you don't do it. Rather than getting punished for it, you get rewarded for it. So there is a big difference.
I don't see the difference between getting 5 stars in GTA causing mayhem to causing mayhem in black and white. I think people are just trying to make excuses for the actions they take in video games, by making it sound like it has more meaning then it actually does in the case of GTA. pretending to be high class so one can sit on their high horse.
I'll pass, thank you very much. Not my cup of tea. I prefer my games with a hint of class.
Day One purchase. And implying a game doesn't have class because it doesn't make pretenses about violence "Well in this other game you DON"T HAVE to murder people" is just a tad arrogant, and dishonest.
I dont like agreeing...but it is accurate as far as I see.
Excited for this game, but yea I was kind of hoping for a story or something, but hey at least there will be side objectives and whatnot.
That destruction look great, can't wait for this game.
This looks effing sweet. Is this a twin stick shooter? I love them. Why has this game been getting so much bad press? Because you play a bad guy and kill all the good guys? Its a game dude, get over it, its fiction. There are much more real things in the world that are far worse than sitting on your couch virtual killing. All those drawing a line on this game are doing gaming no favours. Youre saying GTA is ok but this is not because you play a "good" guy (yeah right Trevor)or Dead Nations alright because theyre just Zombies but your actually re-enforcing the (wrong) notion that gamers cant tell the difference between fiction and reality, and we should all be appalled because the lead character is such an terrible person. Oh well, I dont suppose I'll ever get to play this on console anyway. Thats a shame.
Again, much truth in what you say.
It's presentation. GTA wasn't designed to shock/disgust players the same way Hatred was. A Hatred dev basically said the same. He said the violence in GTA was served up nicely, so it didn't end up being that violent. "Why has this game been getting so much bad press? Because you play a bad guy and kill all the good guys?" No, it's been getting bad press because it's trailer was made to disgust people. They rode off that shock value. That was their marketing plan to begin with. How can you compare GTA with this ? They aren't even close. I see people getting murdered in GTA and couldn't give a damn. That's because of the way it's presented. No one really cares about "you're killing people" or "you're playing the bad guy" At the end of the day, Hatred didn't get dislikes because of any of that. It got dislikes because it's trailer was difficult to stomach for a lot of people. ie - it disgusted them, which was what they designed it to do. Is there an GTA trailer that is remotely close ? No. GTA's tone and presentation is completely different. As for whether Hatred is actually a good game, I don't know. I actually lost a little interest after this trailer. I would have liked them to make use of their theme more, to perhaps add some story element into this. Ofcourse, I can't really tell from a trailer, just have to wait and see.
This game is seriously effed up and I 100% believe you have some sort of issue if you would find this game enjoyable. All the games similar to this up to this point have always had humour (postal) or story (manhunt) or options (GTA) and never once do they force murdering innocents onto you. This game gives you none of that. An angry man going on a violent rampage killing innocent civilians in extremely graphic and cinematic ways. I get why you can't say this game cannot exist, but i can't fathom why you'd want to play this. There's so much better things to play or do.
If you want to go there we can just call it a commentary on what the media thinks video games are. That seems to satisfy the message requirement everyone seems to have.
Says the guy with the user name "death dealer"...
Lol so what? I've had the name for over 12 years now. I still think this game is pushing unnecessary boundaries. And I play many competitive fps games. It's fitting, but I don't put it past n4g users to judge things based on names.
I want to play it cos the gameplay looks fun. Gameplay above all else right? Why are your morals getting in the way of gameplay?
The gameplay looks fun? I feel sorry for your standards. Sure morals come into play a lot here but that game looks like a terrible flash game. I know this violence exits in games today. But when you have headlines in the news where 90 kids die because of some maniac going on a rampage I kinda feel we shouldnt embrace that hate and put that in a videogame where the goal of the player is to just murder civilians and cops for points or survival or whatever bs they put in this game to reward you. The system is classless and tasteless and this is your kinda of game then I have a feeling that you might be too. Just my thoughts and lol honestly I don't care that I'm getting so many disagrees. You kids obviously grew up in a desensitized violent society and it shows. This feels like columbine rpg. It's twisted.
"but i can't fathom why you'd want to play this..." Because, behind all of the pretense of humor and story, this is simply the same type of gameplay that MANY people enjoy when going off script in games like GTA and Just Cause. We can attempt to justify the killing that goes on in Postal, Manhunt, GTA, or even the likes of CoD. Or, we can just understand that this is a violent video game that isn't trying to hide what it is all about. Personally, I don't plan to play the game (though it looks a far bit better than I thought it would). That being said, I am also not going to pretend like this same kind of violence doesn't already exist within the games that we play. By the way, this is no judgement on YOU. It's just my own personal view.
looks like mindless fun such as... GTA or Hotline Miami. I'd probably play it for a few days then get bored with it.
Hotline Miami is far from mindless... it's a strategy game, and GTA(especially V) is only mindless if you choose to do mindless stuff in it. This game seems like a mixture, actually looks really fun, but I'd like to see a PS4 version :).
Can't even use the "GTA is worse" defense... heh heh heh.
Gameplay actually looks really good.
I love twin stick shooters. Any chance of a PS4 release?
this game will never see the light of day on any console. that rating killed that chance.
In the US it did, but NOT in Europe where an 18 rating is PERFECTLY FINE! -_-
@Dan50- neither companies have never allowed an AO rating on their systems.this a company thing not a region.
the main question is if yoshida will allow this on ps4 they not have balls to put this for us on ps4, unfortunately this game have alot more than a highest violent and polemic rates at its shoulders. just forget and play on your pc
This game can come out, but there is no way, from what we understand about the story that, any gaming site with a reputation will give this a decent rating for review. I just don't understand how they can make people like the main player. In any good game you have to enjoy who you are playing as. To even remotely like this guy, he is going to have to have one hell of a back story. Even then he will have to learn a message at the end to have any satisfaction...
oh yeah. i forgot this was a thing.
Game looks great bout time we getting some proper adult not watered down Disney games :/. I'm 33 and i enjoy gore and senseless shooting at things in games its not a crime. I'm not gonna go on a mass killing spree but I'm sure as hell gonna play the hell outta this game. Nuff said.
I think it looks awesome. It's a game. Not real people getting killed. Day one purchase solely because all these pansies have their panties all twisted up over it
i will support this game this is beautiful just because of its nature, nobody is going to say this is not polemic or atrocious... yes this is a game about murder people and no, this is not a simulator or this is not going make people alt+f4 and leave their room for mimic what they have done in game. people are not forced to like this, and they don't pretend to be like this i guess lets respect each other, enjoy your game and if not going to purchase, let others have fun with this. and please, we're not going to discuss what "fun" and "taste" means to some people
The gameplay actually looks solid..I love twin stick shooters and to people who are hating on this game , I suggest you to do some social work in real life , you are not doing anyone a favour by NOT killing a couple of pixels.
I don't understand the hate and complaints about this game. It's a video game!!!!!
yeah and it looks cool. Did u see that train explosion ? thats crazy
I am the most liberal, open-minded person there is, but something feels a bit wrong about glorifying serial killers, terrorism, and school shootings. I'm all for free speech but if the rumors are true about the creators being neo-Nazis I don't want to play it.
They are not nazis at all. http://www.polygon.com/2014...
I thought this was an FPS?
Looks interesting but I am NOT a fan of the iosmetric view point....
Wasn't interested at first but now I am actually. If the violence is too much for you then don't play it. This looks like a pretty solid game.
Good lord I can't wait! This is gonna give me so much relief when I graduate this year!
I hope we can kill trannys and small children and fat feminists.
this trailer was very entertaining, ive been waiting for AO games since manhunt. games need to start catering to the adults and stop making games as if only -17 year olds buy games
Come on Sony bring it to the PS4
I for one am going to buy this, but after the reviews are out to be sure it's not buggy
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