GearNuke: "Final Fantasy XV Director Hajima Tabata recently held an Active Time Report providing more details about the player’s feedback from the demo, and he also shared their main complaints and issues with the demo."
So I guess the demo for Europeans was practically perfect.
"Cindy not sexy enough" I complained. Tabata please acknowledge my complain. Thanks.
Too Sexy? Is that a thing?
Repressed people are funny...
Too sexy is not a thing. But I understand when it comes to realism, over-sexualized female characters can look fake. I had this realization when playing DOA5 and saw Helena in a bikini fighting in the snow/arctic stage. It becomes comical and stupid after awhile. In this case, Hajime is a mechanic. As long as they don't make her look like a porn star playing a "mechanic" role, I think it will be ok.
gays and sjw
Theres no such thing as ''too sexy'', smh.
There is, for insecure women who don't want their current or imaginary men drooling over video game characters.
@DivoJones so true but don't forget some women are too ugly.
unless you are too sexy for your shirt. too sexy for this shirt, too sexy for this shirt.
If they adjust Cindy in anyway I'll be very upset.
Agreed. It's always a relative few people being upset and complaining about a fictional character supposedly being 'too sexy', while the vast majority of people have no problems with it at all, and more people would be much more upset if they would decide to self-censor in order to appease the moaning minority. As a 38 year old gamer, I WANT that zany twisted Japanese design. I do NOT want these games altered, changed, censored, butchered, in order to appease 'a western audience'. Not everything I watch or play has to fit so-called 'western standards'. I enjoy Japan's less hypocritical view on sexuality, as much as I love the west's love-affair with violence.
The FF games have always had sexyful women, I remember the first time I saw Lulu in FFX when I was just a teen https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Or Fran from FFXII. She was hot.
I don't mind how she looks, I just wish they made her at least sound really, really smart. The Cids i the FF series have always been engineers, repair folk etc and I felt she was way too ummm ... "country" sounding. They could have made a grander impression with her and instead she is just some run of the mile repair girl. Who knows, could be more to her.
Director Tabata stated they are not changing her concept.
''They have no current plans to change her concept but they will make sure to “maintain the boundary” by moderating the way she is presented in the game, removing any sexual themes'' looks like they're going to make some changes..
Me too.. except if they make her more sexier, I'm all in.
Honestly games (generally) push for more realism these days. And while this is obviously a fantasy game, it is still going for a more realistic approach. Cindy is overly sexualized for NO reason. She is a mechanic (I too am a mechanic, though on an aircraft, not cars), and if I saw anyone dressed like she was working on any sort of mechanical device, I'd be confused. It's dumb, they could have easily had a different character fit that "Sexy" roll they tend to fill with each game. She's a mechanic, not a bikini model, which by her design she might as well be.
And yet people are complaining about the all male party?
SJWs strike again.
SJWs are so stupid. Cause we cant possibly have fantasy characters in a fantasy game, hell even the damn game name has fantasy in it smh.
Idk if this is an SJW thing or just a whiny fan thing. Apparently people complained that the male protagonist of that Final Fantasy Mevius mobile game was "too sexy" too so his design ended up getting changed.
The male gay gamer community is apparently taking over the Final Fantasy series.
Funny because I prefer drawing women over men. Curves are always fun to draw and flow much nicer than a man's body. male characters are usually just bulky or squared. Oh and boobs are fun to draw too.
Yes, because only gay men are capable of detecting the marginalization of women.
You're wrong it's the people who are not open minded that think that way
they're fujoshi who played this bishounen ff game
I didn't mind, but my brother for exampe thought that she was a bit too stereotype.
I think your brother is a bit too sensitive. No offense. But complaining that a game character is too attractive or looks purposefully sexy is such a minor issue.
SOME people seem to be of the opinion that creators aren't allowed to design sexy women anymore, in games, comics, anime, whatever. I'm not one of those people. Creators should be allowed to design their characters in any way they like, and people should just accept that notion, instead of trying to talk developers and creators and publishers into somehow self-censoring their product. It seems SOME people get some kind of 'power-kick' out of making a huge fuss about nothing in order to get content altered, changed, whatever. What these creators need to realise is that those moaning few DO NOT speak for the rest of us! We do NOT want these products BUTCHERED in order to be 'suitable for a western audience'! We WANT these games to be their own thing, as intended by the original creators!
I agree with you. I like her design, and it isn't like previous FF didn't have some "stereotypical" characters in them.
Yeah, it's like saying any woman that's in the modeling business is too stereotypical. They just aren't realistic enough for me lol.
Oh man...that's SUCH an issue...I mean let's forget about the framerate and camera issues, they shouldn't work on that, they definitely need to have every character wear full body bulky jumpsuits it might be too sexy otherwise.
I think the director talking about the sexiness of a female character is to divert from the issues you are talking about. Call me an old cynic.
You seem to forget that the demo was pre-alpha gameplay and the framerate and camera will be addressed....
So the party is basically a German bratvurst day trip.... the one girl in the game we've seen is too sexy... god damn it Wtf is going on!
I'm just gonna put this here http://www.neogaf.com/forum... (of course, the dude is banned)
Great link. Bubs for interesting.
@JackVagina Very good post. It actually pisses me off that Neogaf bans anyone for disagreeing with them or proving them completely wrong. It's disgusting how they use the threat of banning as a form of censorship. Anyways nice find Jack, bubs up for you.
Now if this was an American game I would say yeah a girl mechanic would not be showing that much clevage. That might be due to where I live though. It can get pretty cold in Alaska. This is just a Japaneese style. Either way, it doesn't bother me. I didn't play the demo and I haven't watched any gameplay but when I read that the main person sounds like Batman, a big WTF popped into my head.
telling the truth i was one of them! im old, but i hate games when the womans looks like a bitch, she dont even looks like a car mechanist.
Really?! Not realistic enough in a Final Fantasy game? Everyone who complained about a girl in a fantasy being too sexy needs to GTFO of gaming.
agreed it's almost as dumb as people claiming Zero Suit Samus in Super Smash Bros. 4 looking too sexist cause of her 2 piece bathing suit, but when Shulk only wore shorts and a pair of shoes its ok. I bet people will find more reasons to complain these days, just get over yourselves. Xenoblade Chronicles X allows you to customize your characters outfit so if you want your female party members looking sexy or not its your choice. I don't hear anybody complaining about outfits in XCX for Wii U. At the end of the day as i've said before it's just a game, enjoy it.
There was actually an article complaining about outfits in Xenoblade a few days ago
I've personally always like the less overly exaggerated characters myself. Rikku, Ashe, and Yuna just looked more natural than Tifa, Fran, or Lulu...not that I disliked those characters though, and Tifa was about as normal as they get outside her breast size. I haven't played the demo yet, but from the picture shown here she looks rather unremarkable except for the exposed bra and cleavage.
I bet it's all the fat and ugly girls who complained to them.
Now that was plain rude.
Truth hurts. B/c someone is insecure about how they look, they feel the need to ruin it for the rest of us. Why is that?
No it's not.. it's all of them.
Yet nobody complains about the fact that a shirtless man is on your party needlessly showing off his chest and abs.
What a useless complaint
Yeah I agree, she could use a bit less revealing clothes if they want to be realistic. Ignis needs a shirt as well, I'm not sure what kind of body guard doesn't where one especially since there will be snow.
Ignis has a shirt, Glasio has the open one, but I do agree. When I see her I don't really think mechanic at all.
I hated the american voice acting for cindy. It just didnt seem to fit for me.
I hope the developers just ignore these people.
Seriously get over yourselves so what if Cindy looks sexy. It's just a video game. I know we all are stoked for this game as am I but regardless just enjoy the game and try not to take it all too seriously.
I hate gamers sometimes. I'm sure the majority of people would have had no complaints. Movies and TV, sexy is never complained about, half of them show girls/guys with no shirt for several scenes and often for no reason. But if a game shows some cleavage everyone screams SEXIST. Have people seen the way young people dress and look in real life. Go downtown on a Friday night, it's boobs and ass everywhere.
Whoa. Most of guys on here are assholes.
Nobody complained about Rikku or Lulu FFX almost 14 years ago but today oh it is ungodly how dare they do that sexist hateful men!!
I never felt that Rikku was overly sexy. She was sexy in her own way,, and cosplay Rikku's are some of my favorite but that's a different thing, but in game she certainly wasn't sexualized. I remember people did complain about Lulu though...but most people said, "whatever", and didn't listen to them. people complained about Tifa's....proportions....a s well. But again, there wasn't a media feeding frenzy on the patriarchy back then. Same with Lara Croft back in the day.
Seems like the director discovered American SJWs.
I think people don't understand the problem here. They're not complaining that the character is too sexy for that reason alone. It's just that when people hot half-naked women with no battle scars in video games, it makes them go "Ok, I'm supposed to believe that this chick saves the world in those clothes?" I think it's a valid complaint.
Umm...it's final fantasy. Most of the characters wear "armor" that is more stylish than it is practical. It's a staple of the FF franchise.
It's good that the devs talked about issues players from different countries had but I think it's quite telling that the 15 top complaints from Japanese gamers all seemed to centre around gameplay issues and the like while the top complaints from Europe and NA players were mostly about characters being too sexy or that there are no female main party members.
That's because I think a lot of EU and US players have no idea what FF is all about and that the character design is more about style than practicality, so this is actually just following that trend. I mean think about it, since the PS1 days, have we seen a FF character that is ordinary in design? Aren't their clothes always stylish? Even the remakes for the PS1 of the older games had the CG with stylish characters. Game play mechanics though for this game have changed drastically compared to past FF games, as it was never meant to be a main FF title, but even then, the ATB system has been a big part of FF for a long time, and it always gets changed with each iteration of the game...for better or worse. In the end, I just think it's people who know nothing about the franchise who want the game to be something that it was not supposed to be.
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