After Activision and Treyarch released the new Black Ops III teaser trailer, Deus Ex Developer Eidos Montreal and its exective art director fired some shots at the publisher and developer for using the same setting.
So, COD: Human Revolution or Dues Ex: Black Ops III?
As much as I love the Deus Ex games, I think them firing shots at Treyarch is ridiculous because of a similar story idea. The idea of humans becoming more than human with the help of tech has been around for decades.
Maybe Shirow Masamune should fire shots at Edios Montreal. Pot meet kettle.
exactly i mean if anything they all copied from Terminator or Robocop lol
Good! It was insulting...to think some people will play this and not Deus Ex
Deus Ex has always been quality (okay so Deus Ex 2 was a bit off but I still enjoyed it) and COD... well it was good. Guess we'll see soon if it's just as many believe - another copy and paste job, with yet another slightly enhanced version of the same old engine.
Yeah I hate when people like different games than me too. /s
Yeah As if Deus Ex created that plot skeleton of humans with robot parts Terminator says hello
You all need to stop reading the title and actually take in the article on its entirety. It's not even shots, it's friendly banter amongst the development community. The devs are simply highlight ing that both their products as different as they are from a genre standpoint share a similar plot and time line.
Wonder if there is more to the cat shot than we think . The similarities are obvious, although the final game will differ I guess.
Activision milked the COD series so much they're running out of ideas
Exactly. They really have no where else to go. Now that theres exo suits...and BO2 pushed into the future. BO4 will be on another planet with aliens...and a flashback to 2250. 3 yr cycles are good unless you have committed to an idea that you can't back away from. I say reboot CoD. Go back to what made it great in the first place and build on that. Make a Moder day military shooter, but refine it in every way you can. Focus on making gameplay better instead of crazier and different. At least there's zombies.
Deus Ex didn't create the idea of augmented humans...
This. As much as I've shat on CoD since 2008, Deus Ex isn't the originator of augmentations done on humans, nor many other cyberpunk and dystopian tropes featured in the game. The whole "future warfare" and "evil corporation" thing was done a billion times in the 90's alone. Hell, that sort of thing was literally the 90's version of the "modern warfare in the middle east/somewhere in Eastern Europe killing evil brown dudes and evil russians" cliche that plagued the 2000's so much. Plus the tweets from the Deus Ex guys are pretty stupid. They imply that Treyarch copied off of Deus Ex (when Deus Ex itself isn't that original) when Treyarch's game has been in development for basically over 3 years by now. It's not as if Treyarch saw the Deus Ex trailer, then scrapped everything they had already done to make a cyberpunk-esque game or setting. That's ludicrous.
Its fine lol, it's just a few snarky tweets at most. It's not like they're being hostile or anything. A bit of fun the way I see it.
Good. At least someone called them out.
Asked Treyarch and Activision for a reply. Wonder how this works out eventually
They called them out but in a freindly manner which all devs do.. Plus as stated the setting maybe changed this has nothing to do with argumentation read the tweets. Btw deus Ex over The rinse repeat Cod anyday.
Did ya really had to say "fires shots" like it's a gang war something. Anyway still not buying cod and they both are different type of game.
Words are like bullets now days, or by people's reactions to words, you might get the idea that they are worse some times.
I love Eidos, but c'mon... it's not like they invented this particular brand of sci-fi (Deus Ex is not their creation, nor is Blade Runner, Cyberpunk 2020, Akira, Shadowrun etc). Science and technology is moving in this direction - it's only 'natural' for videogames to employ such themes in the name of entertainment... Yeah, 'Black-Ops' appears to be similar to 'Mankind Divided', but anyone who's played their predecessors knows they'll be very different experiences.
When I was watching the teaser trailer, I thought "Did Activision hack Square Enix stealing one of their marketing videos for Deus Ex?" LOL Because the theme for the teaser is written Deus Ex all over it. I've a strong feeling Black Ops III will feel like playing a fast paced FPS (without the RPG elements) in the Deus Ex universe. But then again poppinslops is right that science and technology is moving in the directions of augmentations hence such themes employed in games. Either way, I'm looking forward to gameplay footage.
Maybe ridley scott should chime in on this argument and shut them all up, the arrogance!
SIR Ridley has no time for the petty squabbles of such lowborn nerds... he's busy making 'sequels' for Prometheus and Blade Runner. Huzzah!
Really? I liked the comment about Mankind Divided taking place on the european Front, but future tech in games has been around for quite awhile. Eidos is just trying to drum up hype for their game by mentioning CoD. (I am totally gonna buy Mankind divided btw, I loved human revolution
As much as i love Deus Ex, them having a go at anyone for pinching a setting is rediculous. I think William Gibson and Mamaru Oshii might want to have a few words with Eidos then, because Deus Ex pinches liberally from both Technomancer and Ghost in the Shell. CoD shifting from modern war to futuristic stuff has weirdly got me interested in the series again. Cyberpunk is a genre thats woefully under represented in games and if CoD want to tackle it then I say let them.
In the end both games will differ. Probably will end up getting them both so :)
IDK what the big deal is... Was Deus Ex the first game/movie/story ever to involve humans and machines melding and the conflict that comes with it? I'm sure Deus Ex did bite any ideas from anywhere, completely original idea and story... Seems like people need to check themselves before they wreck themselves!
augumented cats ftw!it would be really cool if there a was an augumented pet in either games
Good, lazy creators shouldnt be given a free pass.
By all bean give them Mofo crap. lol
As epic and thought-provoking as the CoD trailer likes to portray the moralities and consequences of human/technology augmentation, everyone knows the game is just gonna be a straight up shooter with a laughably short campaign which barely touches on anything meaningful, compared to the Deus Ex games where choices and consequences matter, as well as providing greater insight into the world of augmented tech, and how it affects people and society. TL;DNR: CoD laughably tries hard to be as serious and Deus Ex, but wont matter in the end.
I almost wish it was on the eastern front lol this future setting is played out.
The irony of how everyone was complaining 10 years ago how played the WW2 setting was. It does suck when this setting IS deus ex and then you have the almighty COD come along and completely replicated the very subject matter you're doing when you know in the grand scheme that next game they'll jump to another setting. Because story to them is an afterthought. An elaborate way to justify crazy MP mechanics. That's all. Then you have people like you saying "this is played out"